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Phil Spencer says the change in next-gen games will be as drastic as any gen since 2D to 3D

Xbox boss Phil Spencer reckons that the change between current and next-gen games could be as dramatic as the jump from 2D to 3D.

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Title updated to more closely reflect what Phil Spencer is getting across. - coolbeans

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Spurg155d ago (Edited 155d ago )

Full tweet: "RT on console will be great. I'm very focused on the work we are doing around Dynamic Latency Input (DLI). In my view the feel of games this upcoming generation will change as dramatically as any since 2D to 3D given CPU upgrade, DLI, memory bandwidth and SSD."

UltraNova155d ago (Edited 155d ago )

The title and the actual quote are... drastically different.

That said, we should keep all these advertised expectations at bay.

Unspoken155d ago

Welcome to the world of sensationalism.

kreate155d ago

Phil Spencer is becoming that guy that talks too many BS.

I just wish they let him reach into their goldbank and make some good high quality games.

Obscure_Observer155d ago

"The title and the actual quote are... drastically different."

Like I said in another topic: every single tweet Phil writes to his followers and Xbox fans is like a worldwide press conference.

The title should be changed.

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4Sh0w155d ago (Edited 155d ago )

"as dramaticlly as any *since" vs "as dramatic as" are two very different things, but I'll give the author the benefit of the doubt, that statement could be easily misinterpreted or reported incorrectly.

bouzebbal155d ago

Change between 2d and 3d but without exclusives and with halo and gears Forza 🤣
Oh and AA batteries

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crazyCoconuts155d ago

I feel like the resolution upgrades have provided big and obvious changes in 480 to 720 to 1080 to 1440. Beyond that it's a lot harder to tell. So frame rate would be an easy use of the power but that's not revolutionary. Certainly the power will open up capabilities to add more depth and realism into scenes, but I think that will take a lot more work from game developers and artists. Lots of games will take the easy route and just continue to bump the frames and res in the next few years imo

timotim155d ago (Edited 155d ago )

It will be interesting to see if some studios continue to prioritize 30FPS for there AAA experiences, given now that we have more power and ways to produce steady 60FPS games. I feel like AAA games need to hit 60FPS going forward.

Christopher155d ago

I'm not quite sure what he's trying to say even with the full tweet. 2D to 3D changed entirely how we see games. Does he mean this will change another sense in this regard, perhaps how we feel/react to them?

UltraNova155d ago

Phil meant that games will feel faster, more responsive than ever. His example, 2D to 3D, was inappropriate and hyperbolic because the only advance that could possibly exceed that jump would be achieving true photorealistic visuals.

I don't blame him, PR is literally his job, after all.

Obscure_Observer155d ago

@UltraNova

"His example, 2D to 3D, was inappropriate and hyperbolic because the only advance that could possibly exceed that jump would be achieving true photorealistic visuals."

Lol.

Not far. Not far at all.

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UltraNova155d ago

@obscure

While FS is looking sharp, really sharp, it's nowhere near photorealistic. Even the best movie CGI isn't even close to photorealism and they use supercomputers to generate those scenes. Don't get carried away.

lazyboyblue155d ago

No he doesn't. He says as drastic as any SINCE 2d to 3d.

Nyxus155d ago (Edited 155d ago )

You're right. I just took the title from VG247 but it seems they missed that.

lazyboyblue155d ago

No worry. Hardly your fault.

jambola155d ago

then shouldn't you take it down or edit the title?

Nyxus155d ago

@ jambola: unfortunately you can't after it's been approved.

shuvam09155d ago

Nothing will ever be as drastic as PS1 -> PS2 and PS2 -> PS3...

denawayne155d ago (Edited 155d ago )

Huh? Atari 2600 to NES to SNES/Genesis was humongous. Look at the first game, Combat, on Atari 2600 which was out in 1977. Then look at Super Mario World on SNES which was out in 1991. That's a big difference in only a span of 14 years. Pretty incredible

shuvam09155d ago (Edited 155d ago )

@denawayne
I mean nothing will be as drastic going forward...
Ofc those prev gen were transformative...
But look at FF7 vs FFX vs FFXIII vs FFXV...
We're already at the peak...
You can plot an S curve outta these gens...
PS1 and PS2 era had the steepest climb...
Nothing will ever compare again...
Going forward, it's mostly gonna be framerates and pixel counts...

Godmars290155d ago

No.

Unless a company not really known for creativity or originality has discovered some uber radical new method of game design, we'll be lucky to get the constant 60 fps promised at the start of last/current gen.

Obscure_Observer155d ago

@Godmars290

So a guy who works close to multiple studios and has deep knowledge on next gen Xbox hardware is talking out of his a$$ while you hold the keys of truth.

Wow

"we'll be lucky to get the constant 60 fps promised at the start of last/current gen."

By "we" you mean who? Bare in mind he´s taking specifically about the Xbox Series X and since you don´t game on Xbox, FYI, we been getting Xbox One´s first party games with locked 60fps since day one.

Feel free and look up for DF videos in case you want further and additional information.

Godmars290155d ago

"So a guy who works close to multiple studios and has deep knowledge on next gen Xbox hardware is talking out of his a$$"

When said "guy" has a track record for over hyping products only to under deliver on said hype? Yeah, until he delivers he's only talking out of his @$$.

And I am not "speaking truth", I'm pointing out evidence derived from past history. The only way to refute it is new evidence, not empty challenges from the peanut gallery.

And yeah, before you say, I'm in the peanut gallery too.

Obscure_Observer155d ago

@Godmars290

"When said "guy" has a track record for over hyping products only to under deliver on said hype? Yeah, until he delivers he's only talking out of his @$$."

Since Phil Spencer got promoted he has been delivering nothing but great news and never seen before in the game industry, investments in first party studios, games and worldwide top talented developers.

If all of this will payoff I don´t know, but I´m not going to pretend that Xbox hasn´t improved under his leadership or create fictions on how he´ll have those new games cancelled just for kicks.

"Yeah, until he delivers he's only talking out of his @$$."

According to your logic, same goes to competition and it´s next gen Gran Turismo at Native 4K/240fps.

We shall see soon enough.

Godmars290155d ago

"According to your logic, same goes to competition"

YES! YES IT DOES!!!

Thank you for showing ability to recognize that something other than Xbox exists!

"We shall see soon enough."

Which, aside from MS digging themselves a hole with hype, is all I've been saying where you've only insisted Xbox has made up for their past - when nothing of real substance has been shown.

"never seen before in the game industry"

Really...?

*sigh*

Knushwood Butt155d ago

'he has been delivering nothing but great news'.

!!

Dragonscale155d ago

Spenser has been talking out his ass for the past 7 years lol. This is no different.

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oasdada155d ago

Yeah and they showed minecraft and gears 5 as their first nexgen games.. hypin it up again

alb1899155d ago

That is not true. They just showed how Ray Tracing will perform even in existing games and took Gears and Minecraft as example.

timotim155d ago

I remember Phil Spencer getting up on stage at the Videogame Awards and announcing Series X and showing Hellblade 2 for the first time.

ReadyPlayer22155d ago

How do you know someone doesn't understand Ray tracing? They make fun of the Minecraft demo without realizing that an RTX 2080 runs that demo at 30 fps max.

oasdada155d ago

Bro still.. they showed the same raytraced Minecraft demo with series X? Where the hell is it on the x? And no matter how impressive taytracing is on Minecraft its still minecraft made from 2 polygons lol.. if ur talking such big things like difference between 2d and 3d then show us something to back that up or just Stfu

Terry_B155d ago

Lol...that is hilarious.