Xbox Evolved - NXE: The Good, The Bad, and Only On 360

Some of XE's staff has gotten their hands on the NXE and we have plenty to say about the good, the bad, and the worse that you will only find on Xbox 360.

[Spike47]

MS was aiming for a very simple to use idea for LIVE, and this is what they came up with I guess.

[krouse93]

Looks rather boring adn if you realized its a combo of the Wii channels in the XMB style format i mean seriosly microsoft where is you creativity. And you avatars right you stole the Idea from Both SOny and Nintendo the Miis and the Avatars from home you created their Bastard Child. DAMN YOU MICROSFT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !

[ThanatosDMC]

See, this is what i said on a previous post some time ago but people disagreed with me. Oh well, i guess. At least they toned down the advertising but im not exactly sure when my 360 finally connects to live.

[cRaZyLeGs 93]

They claim they made avatars years ago lol. But they still get this huge update announced and released waay quicker than home.

[Megatron08]

What a piece of crap article. They put netflix down as being a bad then turn around and talk about how netflix makes using the video market place outdated. They put down having to buy clothing for avatars as a bad thing yet all the clothing is free. Complains about "random disconnects" yet this has nothing to do with NXE especially when its not even out yet. More then likely it related to extremely high amount of users playing gears. They list avatars, installing games and navigation as both good and bad. They say ms stole the UI from apple yet its a lot like vista and been called a vista rip off for a long time.

[Traveler]

Actually, the thing that I've seen that it looks the most closely to is their own windows media center extender interface. Avatars have been around for ages and I think it is silly for anybody to act like Nintendo invented them. The NXE interface looks slick and no matter how MS designed the interface they could not have avoided comparisons with other interfaces and other features. Nobody could build an interface today and not have it contain elements that had already been seen in other interfaces. The thing that I care about is whether it works and whether I like it...and NXE looks like it will succeed on both of those fronts.

[Rofflecopter]

it'll probably be better than the blades eventually, but for now im dreading this update. if i wanted a casual "mii" experience, i would have gotten a wii. if i wanted xmb, i have the playstation. if i wanted netflix i would have a box already.. and give me a browser.

i like being able to delete zero's from my gamerscore though. lots of games the girlfriend rented..

[The Lazy One]

it looks almost exactly like media center, except with a different colored background and little people stuck in.

edit: in an effort to save bubbles... I'm upset primetime isn't in yet (are we sure it's not and it wasn't just axed from the preview version?).

[season007]

but i like how this author comparing buying with renting
owning a thing permanently and owning a thing temporarily isn't the same thing...the netflix service is good, i have it too cause i don't have too much cash for blu-rays, but then if i could of course i would want to actually own all the nice movies i like

The cost of having something and being able to use it for a fixed period is non-comparable mate...

[xhairs9]

Umm...it was stolen from Apple. Vista was stolen from apple, and if this was stolen from vista, it was modeled from apple.

[Lifendz]

except the icons are so big that you could never have a theme in the background and see it or enjoy it? Improvement on the blade system but XMB is still easier on the eyes.

[ofx360]

Have you guys never seen Windows Media Center. What wrong with you people. I'll give you the Wii thing but definitely not the XMB.

...wait, if you think the NXE copied the xmb but NXE is actually a variation on Windows media center then does that mean xmb actually copied Microsoft... whoa

[mrnjl]

That maybe true but AppleTV sux balls big time. Would rather Vista Media Center anyday over that overpriced piece of crap. Also get the bonus of all my Xbox360`s can now watch HDTV

[meepmoopmeep]

i think NXE is great from what i saw at E3.
what i like moar is all the "manly" xbox owners having to be moar "gay" now.
lmao.. "ha-ha"

[ASSASSYN 36o]

Once can be forgivin...barely. But typing "moar" twice makes you an idiot.

[Kami]

You, sir, are an idiot. :(

[Witty Comment]

you, sir, are and idiot.

idiot.

[ofx360]

That, my grammatically challenged friend, was NOT a "Witty Comment"

[Shadow Man]

I want a You Tube Channel like the one the PS3 has.

[Noob]

You have to create a avatar and you have to update. I don't think some people will like it but they don't have a choice.

And please don't give me that "you can just use the blades in the guide". No, you have to use this interface. Regardless, you'll have to use it and it's not the same guide.

[Merritt]

I'm actually liking the update. Sorry you don't, if you even have it yet.

[Traveler]

What's your point? We have to use the XMB when we use the PS3 and Sony gives us no choice in the matter. Quit being a hater.

[Merritt]

@Traveler

I have to commend you on your cross-platform non-biasness. Haha. The update isn't that bad at all. I've never used the XMB, unless it's the exact same as the PSP, if that's the case then that's not bad either.

You can't have push start to go anymore, these systems do so much more than any other you have to have a way to smoothly access them. So you may see similarities.

[KingME]

Two questions, first do you even own a 360.

Second, why didn't you name your account "knob" instead of "noob"?

Is this the way most of the world is? Does everyone wake up in the morning and simply look for sh!t to whine about.

Additionally, why are there so many PS3 fans trolling this thread. I can see the 360 guys that don't like it and complain about it, I can even see PS3 fans that also own a 360. But, why are you PS3 only even in this thread running your mouth. Is this just another chance for you to cry about Microsoft and you just couldn't pass it up?

There is "SO" much b!tching and Wh!ning going on in the gaming world.

[Noob]

I don't even own a PS3.

Everything I'm saying is true. I don't like the avatars.

Just because I don't like it doesn't mean I'm a "PS3 only" gamer.

Get your head out your @$$ and suck it up and quit crying about people not liking it.

@Traveler

"What's your point? We have to use the XMB when we use the PS3 and Sony gives us no choice in the matter. Quit being a hater."

What's yours? I never used a PS3 XMB and don't own a PS3 but that's totally different. Microsoft is forcing me to change the interface if I want to play online. That's the point. It shows how they're shoving it down our throat by making us create an avatar and using the interface.

[JD_Shadow]

"I don't even own a PS3.

Everything I'm saying is true. I don't like the avatars.

Just because I don't like it doesn't mean I'm a "PS3 only" gamer.

Get your head out your @$$ and suck it up and quit crying about people not liking it."

You forgot how definite in their beliefs some of the 360 fanboys on this site are, man (not to mention how stubborn they can be). If you are even remotely talking about anything about their precious console negatively, then you're automatically labeled a PS3 fanboy, regardless of what you say or do. Oh, and they riot and pop all your bubbles, too, all before turning the blame towards the PS3 "fanboys" and somehow try to get people to believe it's THEM that do these deeds on this site while they are always innocent.

Trust me, I've been on here long enough now to see it. You have to like every single little thing about the 360 or else. There's no if's, and's, or but's about it to them.

[Vavoom]

To be honest with you, you're the one that's being the "tool".

First off your coming onto N4G with a 2 day old account proves it. Most people new to a board or forum tends to listen for a day or two before talking a bunch of SH!T. Which proves one of two things, either you really are a "KNOB". Or you a person running multiple accounts, which makes you a "DOUCHE-BAG".

You claim that you own a 360? Okay, what's your gamer tag. Do you even know what it is?

@darkpower - That hot steamy SH!T coming out of your mouth leads me to say one thing, and that is. "LOOK IN THE MIRROR" you have just described both the PS3 and the 360 Fanboy on this site. And if you don't think the PS3 fanboys do the same thing, then you're a bigger fool than you sounded like in your last comment. Can't believe you could have typed that with a straight face.

[JD_Shadow]

DAMN, dude. CHILL!

1. Him having a two-day old account proves WHAT about his opinions? EVERYONE has to begin somewhere. You're account, MY account, EVERYONE'S account was two days old at some point, which makes this tactic not only moot, but unfair at the same time.
2. I have seen that a LOT of gamers on here don't list their PSN or Gamertag (or Mii, for that matter). In other words, they don't care to list any of them whatsoever them here. Does that make them any less valid to say what is on their mind? You're trying to use things that no one would care about any other time to try to dress him down. Another unfair tactic. And if he DOES reveal his gamertag, will you be convinced, or will you ask him for further proof, and then further proof, and then further proof, until he can't make it any clearer?
3. About your diatribe about me: So, you contradicted yourself. You said that I need to look in the mirror when PS3 and 360 loons both commit those acts. Okay, fine. Now, read what I said: That the 360 people accuse the PS3 people of doing things that they do themselves. Did I SAY that the PS3 people were innocent? Of course not. Neither are the Wii people. Do I believe that the 360 people do it a LOT more often over things that are legit? From my vantage point, no doubt about it. And, is it me, or did you just prove me completely right by saying all of that? Besides, looking at your post history (or what IS of one, since you rarely appear from the looks of it), you're not exactly unbiased yourself.
4. You seem to have a LOT of hate piled up in your mind. You may want to look into that a little.
5. Regardless of your diatribe, you never DID argue anything that he had said about the interface and how MS is basically forcing you to choose the NXE over the blades (I'm sure some people would rather not use the NXE). You not once made any point other than you thought he was a tool and that I was a sh!t-talker.

Maybe you should heed your own advise and explanations.

@KingME: Why is it that every time a 360 story comes around, you think that 360 owners are the absolute only people allowed to comment on that story? This is while you guys troll everything else without any complaints from ANYONE? See, unlike the things I mentioned above, you're the ONLY group on here I've see that somehow thinks that the news is only allowed to be commented on by YOU! If N4G was made that way, then they would've done it that way. Instead, you're thankful that they didn't, because you would be SO angry if you weren't able to try to dress down any of that LBP hype or the Home stuff. It's called interjecting objectivity.

And why does it HAVE to be "trolling" to you guys? Why do you guys ALWAYS ignore the points they bring up? Why can't we have an opinion on it, too? Remember, the news might persuade those people TO buy a 360! Why shouldn't they comment on something that might affect that kind of decision?

Seriously, why do you guys keep thinking that you're the only ones that are allowed to get your own exclusive club? If you're THAT touchy, make your own damn password protected site that you can invite only who you want in and say whatever you want and leave the rest of us the hell alone.

[Noob]

XBL tag: King of Noobs I

Pretty stupid crowd. I only get this type of response when I'm not agreeing with something that's being done by MS and here you tools come to the rescue.

I bet if I was saying how awesome this update is and how cool the avatars are to me (then i would lying) I wouldn't get this type of fanboy responses.

Just accept I don't like this avatar system and get over it. I don't own a PS3, I dont have different names, I just don't like this avatar system. I didn't bash it or call it names but I still get attacked by fanboys.

Darkpower summed it up pretty nicely.

[Icecold33]

"Why do you guys ALWAYS ignore the points they bring up?"

Perhaps if the points being brought up weren't expressed in a matter of pure hatred and as a simple unbiased opinion instead, more people would be open to your comments. Here a question for you. If you are a PS3 owner that doesn't have a 360 and don't plan on buying one, why do you feel compelled give the 360 masses your opinion.

I don't comment on how the PC owners have to constantly upgrade their rigs to inorder to play the latest games because it doesn't concern me. Because I don't game on my PC. I don't complain about not liking the PS3 XMB (which i don't) because I can care less. I guess what I am really wondering is, why do you care about what goes on on the 360.

Vavoom is right about noob as are you. But he does talk more like a seasoned N4G veteran rather than a 2 day old noob. So, based on what I can see I agree with vavoom in his case.

But you were the one in "This" thread that first brought up the blame game comment. READ YOUR OWN COMMENT AGAIN 3.6. The context that you used clearly pointed to the 360 fans doing this and blaming the PS3 fans for doing it. You never implied that you feel both parties are doing it.

So in that context, you are no more innocent than KingMe.

[Shadow Man]

How in the phuck is that even possible?

[pwnsause]

sounds like only older games would be able to take advantage of the HDD.

[Deadman64]

I saw a site a week ago that had people reporting how much faster load times were. Halo 3 was no difference, gears was someting along the lines of 5-8 faster or something. but it def. didnt say worse...

[thekingofMA]

i know nothing about video game development, but Halo 3 makes load times longer because of some sort of massive amount of caching that was used in the development of the game

i read this somewhere, and i'm not going to look for any source, but if you can make any sense of that, there's your answer

[40cal]

Really? You have to create a avatar and you have to update. I did not know that. You would think that being forced to make an avatar would piss some people off.

Edit: ^^^ Wow, now I want a chicken sandwich.

[Merritt]

@40 cal...he's right the update is mandatory, so is the Avatar deal. I haven't really gotten much out of the Avatar, my gamerpic is still the same, and the blades are a joke after using this..so I don't know what the issue is.

[sukru]

You can choose the default, and skip customizing.

But on the other hand, it's fun to customize them (yep I tried).

[SF49er420]

this update is going to be sweet. the current dashboard is lame. sony has a way better interface. ms needs to update their dashboard. netflix is going to be sweet. like you wouldnt want it???? its faster, no more loading crap forever. its easier to find stuff. more visual. your stupid for even thinking the old dashboard would be better. and ms will update this thing and keep adding more to the system keeping it fresh.

[iggypop123]

i just want to install gears already. everytime there is a checkpoint it struggles to get through that

[Draperc]

I agree with one part of this article, since xbox 360 owners are paying 50 bucks a year for live, at least give those paying members the option to turn ads off. Surely 50$ a year from each of the 20+ million xbl gold users is enough to pay the bills, right?

[Traveler]

Yeah, but they were really far off the mark when they implied that there are 22 million people paying for Xbox LIVE:
"I understand Microsoft needs to pay the bills, but is the fifty bucks you are getting from over 22 million people a year really not enough?"
There are only a total of 14 million Xbox LIVE subscribers. I don't know how they messed that one up.

The whole article seemed slanted, as if they were searching for things to be negative about.

[akaFullMetal]

looks like nxe should be good for 360 fans, hopefully there wont be any issues like the article says, but there might be since everybody will be downloading and trying this.

[Nikkelz]

game on

[DailyAddict]

I've tried a few games on NXE and so far only Fable 2 has seen major improvement. Gears, I actually had MORE glitches when installed for some reason. Some games are just optimized for the disk so not all of them will benefit from the install.

[iggypop123]

this update is a waste then. the only new 360 game i have. i guess i can install cod5/l4d depending which game i get.

[Imallvol7]

i installed rock band. immediately deleted. it almost seemed worse.

[Strife Lives]

I could do without the avatars and just kept the blades WITH optional installs.

[Magic_The_Celt]

its out? wow i guess not many people give a rats a$$

you can bet your golden monkey when Home hits it will be all over none stop

il download this later

[Deadman64]

no. its not out. It comes out tomorrow.

And I bet the world would know more about the NXE than any game release the PS3 has done so far.

[ChrisGTR1]

xbox.com just went offline! im guessing in a couple hours itll be back online with the added new functions they talked about at e3. :D
hey if your reading this go and post it as news.

[NaiNaiNai]

i just got to say im on the NXE right now, and im trying the next flix. and its awesome, smooth no lag no jumping no buffering. and i only have a 6mbp connection. the set up is so easy to set as well. just click 5-10 seconds later it pops up on your 360 and you can hit play. so awesome.
-nai-

*i just found another nice little feature. you can quit in the middle of a movie start another one and do this several times and it will still save your spot. XD*

[Gue1]

i don't know from where are you from but where i live 6 mbps is a lot, i mean is pretty fast! i pay 60 dollars for only 1 mbps... ;-(

[DevastationEve]

I've got a 768kB/s. So I have to let things stay paused and grab a meal before I can play it without skips. But I'm also only paying $29.99/month for it, so whatever.

[0verdrive]

didnt ign say that it was impossible to let the movie buffer? so if you have a slower connection, it just downgrades the video quality until it is able to stream without having to let it buffer for 45 mins? just a thought. not sure how hd streaming is going to work without it allow you to let the video buffer for a while.

[NaiNaiNai]

and yes if your connection is lower it will lower the quality so you can watch it without having to buffer. also my internet is only 34.99 a month. i feel bad for you guys. >.> but then the euros get 50mbps connctions for around 50 bucks a month.
-nai-

[JEDI WOLVERINE]

Well,to me,using the new XBE will be welcome.

And being forced to creater an avatar? - Im sure that people will enjoy customising and tweaking till their hearts content.

Sure the 'Blades' were great but if MS really does believe that the NXE is awesome and they've put so much effort into it then i have faith in them......

[omgwownoobs]

copy sony and apple the two guys you hate and just put both of their talents together god apple has that type of interface patented i really hope they had microsoft pay up royalty etc microsoft never comes up with anything new i have this interface on my iphone and ps3 and look they even have wii miis!!! i dont support stupidity but another 15million do so hey w/e floats your boat, all i know is that 25mil 360s are sold but only 15mil are working - 33% lol ps3 in spec terms is leading by 2mil microsoft is lagging like their programs lmao

[Uglyslug]

So, wait.. Based on Xbox.com's NXE countdown, you discover that Netflix is free with a Gold Live subscription, and in this review it only really mentions the $9 a month subscription. Am I to assume that the $9 is if you DON'T have a Gold Live subscription?

It just doesn't make sense. Paying $50 for a year of Live and getting free Netflix compared to $9 a month (or $108) for Netflix.... iunno. Seems to good to be true.

What do you guys think/know. Maybe I missed something and it went over my head. D:

[hfaze]

NetFlix is a separate subscription. My guess is that you'll be able to access it with a silver XBL account, but Gold XBL doesn't give you free NetFlix.

Kinda like FF XI on the 360. Your FF XI account was a separate subscription.

[Merritt]

@Uglyslug

So what if I have to pay $14 a month for Netflix! It will save me about $55 a month from my movies channels on DirecTV!

I'm happy about it.

[Traveler]

I'm excited for the NXE update, that is all I can say. It looks really nice and I love all the new features it is bringing.

[SprayandPreycom]

I heard that with gold membership the netflix stream will be free ?
THis is sounding pretty sweet pretty much xbox's answer to blue ray
if you have gold membership you can stream netflix movies at anytime rather than waiting 2 weeks in the mail for new releases and never getting them or going to the store to rent that is pretty freaking awesome... cmon show some luvvvvv!!! imagine watching anymovie anytime on your 50 inch lcd all thanks to xbox live YAY!!!

[jtucker78]

If you have a sweet 50inch LCD I'd probably recommend hiring the blu ray disc version instead - Way better picture and far less compressed.

But if you aren't so bothered about image quality, colour range, compression, resolution then Netflix is cool too, but in that case it doesn't really matter if you have a 50inch screen a smaller screen like a 32inch 720p might actually be better. Because the 50inch screen will upscale all the compression artifacts from the 720p image.

[SprayandPreycom]

The netflix stream is free with your Gold Membership that means if your a gold member you now have access to over 15,000 netflix videos with the new update just another reason why xbox live is worth the 5 bucks a month.

[arngrim229]

i will admit it does add value to live gold, makes it much morw worth having. unfortanatley i get free rentals anyway lol so i dont need live after its done. but still its a good step.

tho u know if it was charged 3.75$(closer to 50 in a year than 5) a month on my credit card i wudnt mind, but just cashing out 53.59 at once makes me think, hmmm i cud get a game with this lol, u know wat i mean???

[MetalNCarnet]

You still need a Netflix Unlimited subscription along with your gold membership to have access. It says so on XBOX.com where apparently you got your info. I guess you misread.

Regardless, you have to pay for netflix.

[N4M3L355]

"All Xbox LIVE Gold members with a Netflix Unlimited subscription will be able to instantly watch more than 12,000 movies from the Netflix library"

"Hard drive recommended for LIVE, and is required for some features. LIVE Gold membership and other fees may apply. Netflix sold separately. See xbox.com/live for system requirements."

[PirateThom]

I just installed the preview version.

Is there anyway to revert to blades for the main dash?

[bomboclaat_gamer]

no there is no way to revert. was it the leaked version?

[arngrim229]

is it me or this thing got announced a few months ago??

my goodness MS rushes things

*edit*(uggh nintendo fanboys raped my bubbles so i resort to this to reply to u jedi.

what u say is true, and its better that they do that lol thats why it feels forever till ps3 gets home lol, if we didnt know bout it we wud be fine.

the netflix part is cool, but i dont like the avatars, they look like nintendo's mii's which are ugly. and live fixing itself actually sorta makes it worth spending the money for people who dont have it yet.

[JEDI WOLVERINE]

Just because MS announced it just a few months ago doesnt mean it hasnt been in development for longer - thus maybe not rushed.

Also MS's new policy is to announce updates/games closer to their release as opposed to the old ways of announcing games which are 3 years off!

[Sarah Palin]

Yeah, i think the NXE is awesome.
I dont know why people would complain at all.
Really, XBEvolved could only complain about NXE having "useless" stuff, like a MArketplace AND Netflix. BUT if Netflix is still catching up content wise, and the Marketplace has the things that Netflix doesn't have---doesnt that kinda bridge the gaps? lol. And they say Halo 3 and Gears 2 have longer load times? Well wouldnt it be smarter NOT TO INSTALL THE GAMES THEN? You have to have the disc in there anyway so you would still be swapping discs. I dont get what all the fuss was about. There were some features that were left out, but nothing insanely major---except for the Party Media Sharing. They didn't even talk about that. But it will prolly be here soon enough. Maybe MS is saving it for 2009.

All in all---NXE is gonna be swell.

[Deadman64]

The only person complaining is Ali_the_Brit...just cus he's a douche.

[DevastationEve]

When it comes to preference, Microsoft can only hope that they've covered everyone's wishes. You'll likely find someone who just doesn't like ANYTHING NXE offers.

I don't see anything wrong with it. I didn't see anything wrong with the blades either. But then again, it's 2008 going on 2009 and they've got to make it look like Live Gold members are putting their money toward something.

This is how subscriber based services work. If they don't improve or introduce new stuff regularly, people will complain about THAT. I know I would!

[Mitch_Cumstein]

But as of right now the level of customization and other features/accessories is far and beyone what the Miis offer. I was not too excited about the avatars, but I wasn't going to cry about it. Then last night I get prompted for the NXE update(preview program let everyone that signed up in early yesterday), and I can't get away from the avatar creator. It is really cool.

This update makes the 360 feel like a completely new console. I downloaded 5 games to my hdd last night and it works phenomenal. The Netflix deal is amazing. For those of you waiting patiently, you are in for a treat. If you are at all familair with Media Center that is what the navigation feels like except 50 times quicker. It is good stuff

[C_Dub]

I have had the NXE for quite a while now and I want back online :P

[bomboclaat_gamer]

i hope they prevent u from going back online. u couldnt wait huh

[JD_Shadow]

They...kinda...DID have a beta thing going on which they invited people into. Or did you somehow forget that?

[psnSkareFace]

it lies it says only on 360 but what about the wii

[C_Dub]

Well seeing as I went months without playing 360 and letting my Gold subscription collapse, I just wanted to see what the hype was about. The update didn't really interest me that much but when it got leaked I figured I'd give it a try.

Now that I'm getting Gears 2 in a couple days I'll get Gold again as soon as it lets me. Right now it says there's an update available but since I can't sign into Live the update fails.

Guess I'll update when everyone else does lol.

[PotNoodle]

"Netflix is a great addition but one key feature that was removed from the new update was the ability to watch Netflix movies at the same time with your friends over Xbox Live. The feature will make it in sometime early next year, but in classic Microsoft fashion, they counted all their hens before the eggs hatched. In other words, a major feature and draw of the NXE was axed from the beginning of it."

Now you see, if that was sony then they would of been slaughtered by the media, it isn't the only thing they have left out of the NXE either. I'm not really bothered at all about it being removed just it is funny how things like this slip through when it is microsoft.

[0verdrive]

totally agreed. weird how you get disagrees, but no one comments on it.

[TheCagyDies]

is NUMBER 1 in my heart...

[SSCOOLCHEA]

net-flix on the xbot 360 and think its cool is retarded . what happen to on-demand and pay per view . same shi right ? I don't like movie rentals on the ps3 either . I have comcast if i want to rent . If i want tru hd i buy blu ray . People who stores movies in there hard drive are really straight up fkn idiots .

[elorm9]

From what this writer wrote, seems like there's more bad than good.

Hahaha, you know what that means right? PATCHES!! :D :D :D

Yes, I own a patchstation and so do you :)

[Senden]

You know, this is just another reason for sony fanboys to point and laugh. They are turning my lovely gaming console into a freaking children's console. It looks STUPID.. FREAKING STUPID!!!

What on earth are M$ thinking? Is this where my xbl subscription is going? Because it sure as hell isn't going on the servers. It really annoys me, microsoft market their console for hardcore gamers, really push xbox live forward and then release what is essentially designed to lure all the little kiddies and moronic parents into buying their console.

As somewhat of a hardcore gamer, i think it's a joke and I sure as hell hope it doesn't look as bad as the screenshots i've seen.

[SaberEdge]

I don't agree. Everything I have seen about the NXE looks really good. I can't wait for tomorrow. I have been playing video games for a long long time and I don't think any of my previous consoles ever received such a dramatic revamp as the 360 is with the NXE. Interface-wise it is like a whole new console.

[SprayandPreycom]

hey i was at work it was 459 in the morning but after re reading the netflix stream yyup you have to have netflix unlimited which im figuring is something like 10 bucks a month hmmm ... yay im not looking forward to having a goofing looking avatar but well have to wait and see 2 more days now ...

[Gamer_Z]

still like it & want it

[SprayandPreycom]

hopefully this info is correct ive been known to make mistakes but
just to clarify if you want to use the netflix move stream with the new xbox live update you will need
the gold membership and the netflix unlimited...which costs 16.99 month so 17 times 12 comes to 194$ a year plus 50 for gold live so basically 250 a year to get the netflix movie streams full potential on a 360.
i dont know if its as cool as getting a blastoid pokemon card like in the vid but still pretty neat

[darthv72]

Been wondering about this. I was stoked to see that netflix will be available through the 360. Then thought, aren't they competing for the same slice of movie pie? I have a feeling that if the netflix thing takes off, MS may actually bow out of the direct video marketplace. Maybe not all together as they would still want to allow for dl of music videos and trailers. Yet tv and movie content will be provided by netflix. It could save them $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ from not having to make the movies/tv shows in the streaming format they use currently. Let netflix do that for them.

Unless ms will only be offering new releases direct from the studios and netflix will pick up all the back catalog? I prefer to get my new releases in disc form anyway from netflix. Go figure.

[SaberEdge]

hmm...those are some interesting thoughts...I guess we will just have to wait and see. although, my own personal feeling is that the video store will continue to stand alongside the new netflix integration. After all, not everybody is going to want to get a netflix account and the store is always there if you want to watch something here or there. I like having the options and its really nice what MS is doing with this update.

[SaberEdge]

The Netflix streaming feature is really cool because it allows people like me to use the service and watch movies on my tv from my couch. I have no interest in trying to hook my PC to my television and I heard the integration with the 360 works really well. I am also really looking forward to the 8 person party chat system and the ability to copy games to the hard drive. I can't wait. I think I want to go play my 360 and say goodbye to the good ole dashboard which has served us so well all this time. ha, ha...but seriously, I like what MS is doing with this revamp.

[swiftshot93]

who cares if they copied sony and apple. Blades were terrible, this is better...

Edit: Just noticed you can have 8 player chat in-game...thats crazy!

[paskowitz]

(I only own a PS3 so keep that in mind)

I can see only ONE thing wrong, seriously fundamentally wrong with this update, if XBL already has a massive amount of immature 12 year olds flooding its games (from what I have seen), then what is this experience geared toward attracting a younger more casual crowd going to do? Despite all the PS3s many flaws, the one feature I enjoy the most over all others is the lack of bratty, immature, stupid 12 year olds. I do not know what you may have personally experienced but whenever I play my friends 360 there is almost always some kid making noises or saying just plain crude things over the mic. On the PS3 this is very rare (it does happen though). I know there is a mute button but it is just annoying. As a PS3 owner I have to say I am mostly bummed over not having Netflix. Even over a party system, that is the one thing I really could use that I do not have. Enjoy it Xbox owners.

Fanboys take note this is how you write a fair comment.

[TrevorPhillips]

Im looking forward to this and playstation home :)