App Trigger: "No more 'all-in-one entertainment system'. With the Xbox Series X, Microsoft is finally going all-in on appealing to hardcore gamers."
Can’t wait for next gen consoles. A true generational leap in performance.
$599 is about RG right for hardcore gamers
I think the casuals are in denial with the price. This console has to be $599 for Microsoft to make profit unless Microsoft wants to take a big loss and price it at $499. Since this is a console for hardcore gamers it should be price at $599 or higher especially since it's as powerful as a RTX 2080 super or maybe more powerful and has a SSD in it not to mention more teraflops with ray tracing technology 😁
Only games dictate whether it's for hardcore gamers or not.. To me as it is the console is too classic, and xbox is playing it way too safe with no futureproof tech.. In 2 years the tech will be common, and nothing would make it stand out.
I'm still holding out hope for Series X at $499 but the more we learn about it, the more it's starting to look like a $599 box. That has to be why Lockheart was created. A box for the casual audience.
@thinkthink Finally someone that understands and gets it. Lockheart is for the casual
If this console is $599, then Sony would be $699 if the rumored 13.2 tflops are true. Which in turn is proof that it isn't true. I predict $499 with a loss. 9tflop PS5 also at $499. MS announced 8tflop 1080p machine for $349
$1000 would be ok for hardcore to be honest
I dont know. I say $499. MS learned from last time. Remember all the people saying the Xbox One X was going to be $700 and it was $499? Same thing is going to happen here. MS can afford to take a loss on hardware, thats why they are hyping gamepass up so much. Gamepass, Xbox live and Project Xcloud across a bunch of devices will make their money....
Cpt Henry.... Dude, if it was as powerful as a 2080 super...prepare to pay $1000 for it. I know consoles like to use AMD, but if its that good, there is no way they would let it go for $600 lol.
So what is a $1200 phone for? Hardcore talkers?
a power console without exclusive game in the first two years. meh
Since when Being consumer friendly Is a bad thing ?
So you don’t like multiplats played at the highest frame rate and resolution? I don’t remember many ps4 exclusives I had to have in the first year. I’ve always had ps3 for the exclusives and played multiplats on 360 where it was usually better.
@traumadisaster I have a gaming PC for that. Buying a Xbox S X will prevent me from playing some of the best AAA Blockbuster exclusive gaming has to offer.
You Sony fanboys always yell about exclusives but when you look at NPD you don’t see many if ANY Sony exclusives in the top 20. Everyone knows (that’s not a delusional fanboy) it’s 3rd party games (unless you’re Nintendo) that sells the most.
Haters gonna hate
@SPEAKxTHExTRUTH, 5 of the top 20 best selling games on PS4 are first party. The hell are you talking about? I know you're not talking about top selling games across all platforms, because obviously those would be multi-plat games and that would be an irrelevant point to make. And let's not ignore the fact that popularity is not the same as quality. Otherwise you're arguing that GTA V and CoD Modern Global Infinite Ops 424522 Whatever are the best games out there. If you want to be limited to that trash, so be it, but I don't believe you.
If you want to play Xbox console exclusive with much better graphic and 4K support, you’ll still gonna need Xbox SX (or $1000+ PC).
Oh how wrong you are. Power is used for much much more. Having this much power in a plug and play console hooked up to my 75" 4k tv for $599 is a no brainier.
I think that's a bad idea on Microsoft part. They're giving the momentum to Sony
They actually are. I like the way they are handling Series X thus far. No complaints from me thus far. I'm excited about the new standards in which a console gamer like me can now play at. I don't have to depend solely on my PC. The bar has been raised most especially for console standards. I already have a new 4K TV purchase in mind in anticipation of next-gen landing. I want a sick set up.
@Echo_ "I'm excited about the new standards in which a console gamer like me can now play at. I don't have to depend solely on my PC. The bar has been raised most especially for console standards." Exactly. Xbox raised the bar setting a new standard for console gaming. High End. Hardcore console gamers like myself couldn´t be more hyped/excited about next gen. :)
You should look at the LG C9 or the CX.
Thanks, I'll investigate it.
I tried some last gen games on c9 and it’s a nice lil bump in some old familiar games where you notice little improvements. Good stuff
Yeah, I have an E9 and the Xbox One X already looks great on it so the Series X and PS5 should be even better.
I'll be picking up a CX in early summer, provided their manufacturing/production isn't delayed by coronavirus . I've been waiting a few years to get to the point where upgrading made sense for me personally, and with hdmi 2.1, ATSC 3.0 tuners, and freesync, vrr, and eARC all to be implemented fully into the 2020 LG lineup, I'm ready to pull the trigger.
next gen a lot of pc only gamers will be now taking a look. ive just seen a video on youtube he tried to put together an xbox xs equivilant and even with using the cheapest possible parts it was still at 1000 not including the case
That's great, but I'm ready to see the games. I want to see whatever it is the Initiative and Playground Games are making most of all.
Can you imagine the head scratching if Playground Games announces their new game and it ISN'T Fable?
I won't have any hair.
I know, only 7 years too late haha
What are you talking about? The X1 was always for Hardcore gamers. The PS4 just did it better.
@shik, the scorpio only appealed to the hardcore xbox fanboys tbh.
@Dragonscale Which is why I said PS4 did it better. Man that one went over a lot of people's heads...
Boy oh boy, rinse and repeat ad nauseum. After this we will get phil talking about alot of things, but really saying much. Then articles like this, but never any games these 15 studios are hard at work on. I thought that was the purpose of the mighty xbox one X.
That's what E3 is for. You expect Phil too shoot his entire load now and show nothing new at E3? If he did you'd still complain come E3 saying "we've seen nothing new, where are the new games"
If E3 is strictly for games. (obviously implied) Why was the Scorpio revealed at E3 and not some random time of year? A next gen console can be revealed anytime. But games HAVE to be E3???
@Z501 I never said E3 was strictly for games, all I said was why show of games now when they can wait until E3 to show everything off. Plus, haven't they already shown at least two games off? Halo Infinite and Hellblade 2.
Why would Microsoft tell us about the games right now? They are getting amazing positives since the new year especially after Monday's announcements. 15 new studios, don't you think there's probably a load of games to show? Don't you think they'll release more about specs then bang out all the games at E3
This site has remained the same since it started. It's no ise debating with some folks.
Cool story but people who didn't plan on buying probably won't buy either way.
“ Then articles like this, but never any games these 15 studios are hard at work on. ” Ninja Theory - Project Mira/Hellblade 2 Obsidian - Grounded/Unannounced RPG The Initiative - Unannounced game 343 Industries - Halo Infinite Double Fine - Psychonauts 2 Playground- Rumored Fable/FH 5 Rare - Everwild InXile - Wasteland 3 Mojang - Minecraft Dungeon The Coalition - Unannounced game Compulsion - Unannounced game Turn 10 - New Forza Undead Lab - State of Decay 3 World's Edge - Age of Empire 3 Plus, a lot of big studios on that list are working on other unannounced games as well that will surely be revealed at E3. I guess it is easier to just troll than doing actual research right?
So u will buy and X's as a hardxore console just to see what the studio acquisitions will produce.
I will buy an Xbox Series X in October or November on release date. I will know all about the games by then as I'm sure they'll all have been shown by then.
Show me the games!
I actually gonna buy a Xbox one x for a cheap price since all new games will be on both systems. And I can just pay for games pass and play whatever current gen games and old classics are available. Now is a nice time to buy a Xbox one x if Xbox isn't your primary console of choice.
I think that’s what they are going for. Any Xbox on the market would be sufficient for a few years along with a Game Pass subscription.
Hey, you know what. I think im gonna do the same. Get a next gen console in PS5 for exclusives and third party games and the XboX-X for all xbox games.
Seems the anti xbox crew are more interested in the xbox games than the pro xbox crew , im more than happy so far with the release of information given by microsoft, why would they show all their cards now, surely thy still have more to tell us after sony show their next move, i own both a ps4 and an xbox, ill be honest and say i prefer my xbox over the playstation,, the reason... well most of my friends play on xbox. we not bothered about console exclusives. we like to play random games and chat in voice chat. ill definatly be getting the series x before ps5, Its a brand new battle between the gaming console makers, so personally old excuses are off the table.... sony well and truely won the last battle, ill give them credit for that .
Hopefully Xbox will have some 1st party games that are with a damn! This generation all we had was empty promises and the power of the clouds. Expect more Xbox fans! We we're scammed this gen
Yet no true AAA 1st party games for it for 2 years pmsl
You think they wont have a Forza title ready for launch that will use raytracing, seriously?
A proper AAA game
Another Forza..... 😟
So is Forza not a AAA game, I consider it AAA. I mean if Forza isnt then surely Gran Turismo isnt either.
I would consider Halo Infinite, Forza Motorsport, Forza Horizon and whatever game playground has been working on, all AAA games.
Hellblade 2? Halo Infinite? Forza Horizon 5? Any other games that their studios are working on? You think MS is gonna launch a console and not releasing any AAA game on it? You think their studios are just sitting on their thumbs doing nothing and just collecting paychecks?
I think based on what MS said, they're making games for current gen, and porting them to next gen. That came directly from MS. At least one will be AAA, Halo Infinite, the rest are unknown, but I suspect within the launch window they'll have more than just Halo to offer. Hopefully 2-3 the year following, along with their non-AAA games that they'll produce.
MS/Phil Spencer themselves have confirmed no AAA exclusives for series X for 2 yrs, where you been living dude, under a rock.
“ MS/Phil Spencer themselves have confirmed no AAA exclusives for series X for 2 yrs, where you been living dude, under a rock.” Wait a minute, the OP said “ true AAA 1st party games“, not “ AAA exclusives for series X”. Read again dude.
I think both consoles will be close as far as specs. As far as, a console for hardcore gamers...only if MS delivers on games this gen.
Without games? It’s really not spin it all you want but when a console is gonna launch with no exclusives especially for the new hardware then no they are not. Nothing about this launch mentions games it’s all about frames per seconds teraflops and monthly subscriptions. It’s not even like they got stuff to announce, they announce the exact opposite no exclusives (next gen ones) for up to a year After launch. So they may turn their existing consoles into something for hardcore gamers but currently no and the new one ain’t gonna change that with subscriptions and no exclusives that can’t be played on previous gen hardware. Not for me.
As I said above, you think they wont have a Forza title that'll use raytracing at launch?
That I could play on my current gen Xbox so why am I upgrading I’m about games not resolutions if I’m buying a next gen console I want games that are only available on that system not just exclusives I’m talking games that are actually using the Next gen capabilities. Madness ey Xbox going down an iPhone route works over multiple gens is not for me. Each to their own. To see they trying to say play 4 generations of Xbox is a joke as they only done 3 and have already announced they not start their next gen games proper until another year after launch. 😑😑🤦 27995;♂️🤷🏻♂️ & #128514; Forza horizon 3 I think it was was pretty good. Gonna make me buy an entire new next generation console. Nope not when they’ve announced I could play it on the barely £100 S edition. Why am I gonna spend 4x that just for a slightly better version no. I grew up on Tetris I love Nintendo Sony sega it’s never been about all out technical grunt for me I like games great ones and Microsoft launching all theirs for their last gen makes their next generation one absolutely redundant to me. Especially as by the time their next gen games start arriving their with be and Xbox series X2 before they’ve even had a proper next gen exclusive helllll no. I buy the consoles because they offer me games I can’t get elsewhere either because we’ve actually gone next generation or they exclusive not just because they have a few more flops than the the last one which never got used anyway. Make some great games then I’ll consider it.
@RosweeSon "I’m talking games that are actually using the Next gen capabilities." Is raytracing not a next gen feature? Wow, all these years I didnt realise the Xbox One could do raytracing. So what if it's available on current gen systems, are you that shallow that you have to exclusives that only you can play on new systems? Micrisoft hot criticised for not supporting the 360 when the Xbox one launched, now they are getting criticised for supporting the cbox one after the series x gets launched. Damned if they do and damned if they dont.
So what if it’s available on current gen, well I don’t need to go next generation with them that’s not rocket science why do I need their next generation console when I can play their games on a much cheaper under supported current gen. Of course they were gonna get stick for releasing a console with no next generation games not possible on previous gens. Nothing about being shallow it’s about being smart enough not to buy a new more expensive next generation console when I can play those games on current generation hardware.