Xbox division head Phil Spencer talks about his vision for the future of consoles and of the gaming industry, also giving insight on the competition.
These Phillip Spencer says articles bear no fruit... he has constantly lied to gamers and everyone sees right through him. Now, whether or not that will change come next gen has remained to be seen. In MS case... i want them to compete... if not it will just be another xb1 gen. One thing is clear, they have moved from what made them popular in the og and 360 days and moved to solely focus on subscription models, mt, and gaas
Enough with the Phil Spencer articles, every single day, several times a day. Sometimes I think that if he would one day stop talking about the Xbox people would just forget the console even exist.
If you're being forced against your will to click the link each time you see a Phil Spencer article, please inform the moderators so they can alert the authorities immediately!
But he god of gaming we must obay What he says do He says jump we ask how high He even fooled ms to piss money away on game pass hoping he can balance it out with other bs services
RpgSama...A bit out of touch with reality I see
But he doesn't hold interviews every day people split up one of his interviews into multiple articles
Best comment ever
You know its like he should just be quiet and stealth release the Xbox One SX and prey to God that it would sell or something. Or he should just say “No! I can’t give you any answer because N4G fanboys will get mad at me!” when someone ask him questions during a podcast/interview.
@THC That's one terrible Haiku you posted there.:)
News flash, they are part of a company and they all lie. Politicians and marketing never listen to either one.
True, but the “spencer said” articles are on another level.
Not everyone sees right through him hence the disagrees. How dare you diss the almighty phil lol.
Hes just a talking figure with a gaming shirt and a grin on his face... im still baffled anyone trusts this man... at all. Id rather xb1 or og xbox talking heads over this imbecile And i have disagrees because this is a pro xbox thread 🤗 some people dont like facts when it disagrees with their feelings
Hes deluded about streaming only consoles. People dont want that.
@Army Then leave nobody cares what you think.
How else do i stop these random phillip spencer says articles? Just be quiet... yeah that will surely work 🙄
@Army Ignoring them may actually work to be honest. But you'd have to get everyone else on board. These discussion threads would be pretty barren if you just left the Xbox fan boys in here, as they're the only ones who really seem to be positive about the stuff he says. If the internet as a whole stopped caring what he said, and all that was left was the Xbox fan boys to post in their own inner circle, they'd grow bored, and websites would stop getting so many hits off of Spencers wisdom articles, and maybe they'd find some more interesting stuff to write about....or go out of business since I doubt they could do that. I mean, if the same 10-12 people just keep coming into these articles to agree with one another, is it really going to be that interesting for them? As it is now, they seem to think they're having a positive effect on the perception MS has by fighting the good fight on MS behalf.
@angelic, you obviously care lol.
Preach to us, oh Philbert the prophet, of a discless, streamed, live-service future, where we own nothing and absorb large volumes of mediocre games like cheap narcotics.
This... But it cant be denied they are making a pretty powerful box... im still wondering the price. But im guessing 499 with a massive shit eaten grin on his face
Again, I have never seen an executive talk more than Phil Spencer. If there were half as many actual actions as talk the XBOX wouldn't be where it is today.
Again, it was a single podcast. I've never seen an executive get used to generate clicks for gamesites more than Spencer.
It's not just the podcast, every single week there's always something from him, makes me feel like he's just a PR person and somebody behind closed doors it's actually running the Xbox Division, you don't see this from PS or Nintendo heads, or anybody else over there for that matter.
People don’t get it. Stevior Comes out with articles every week from an interview in November and the people on this site think he does an interview every week. Everything he says generates dozens of articles. Facts are tough to get across on this forum.
that's because he's the perfect click bait lol. They know what his name does in the community. Ruffle feathers.
@RPG We've seen at least a half dozen articles from that same podcast. Sites are using an interview from November to still make articles. Look out if the guy tweets something! We get manipulated by clickbait constantly by these sites. If you want some ad revenue, just put out a Spencer article. You'll instantly get some people interested in what he said, and thousands more who seem to get triggered as soon as he opens his mouth.
Yes and this is by design. You guys think MS is not pulling the strings on the articles? Its a PR campaign. Not a coincidence.
@S2 So copying and pasting interview transcripts into articles on fledgling gaming sites is the master plan for MS here?
He does wind playstation fans up so easily lol
I think Spencer talks a lot more than he needs to. But I do know the aggravation some experience because if these articles is not completely his doing. Sites are breaking up single interviews or statements, or making multiple opinion pieces on individual talks or tweets or press releases that he or MS make. He does talk more than any other exec in gaming though. Sometimes it's interesting and we can glean MS intentions, other times its trivial, and still others it feels more like passive aggressive bitterness aimed at the competition, which is what really gets people upset. I can see why a lot of lower volume sites love Spencer, and thus MS though. His constant steam of talking is enough to keep their ad revenue flowing with the click bait it helps generate. You dont see big sites constantly citing the same interview for months, and often, they even are the source of many of these other sites who milk what Spencer says. @s2 Would seem more.efficient for Phil to actually give more statements if he wanted to keep in the press. Hoping the press rides a single interview can maybe not turn out the way one Hope's. Plus, most of these articles arent being received with excessive excitement.
Typically when you're invited to interviews....the interviewer will require you to speak 🙄
Ya no logic u used to be cool read back on some of your messages now u gone down hill I don't know what spark broke on I but I hope u find it again 👽
@Ausbo Its not that people don't get, you can't teach ignorant people new rhetoric brodie
He has pretty much done everything he has said he would.Xbox is where it is now because of before he was brought on to turn things around.
Phil Spencer taking over the gaming genre.
"Phil Spencer talking about the gaming genre." Fixed
Imagine having this much of a hate on for an exec in gaming. I don't get it. Throughout the eras I have always enjoyed reading from Nintendo/Sony/Microsoft perspectives
Not sure what “hate” you are referring to.
Lol. Hasn't he been doing that since his initial appointment and promotion. . . . Let's see if he can actually turn xbox into market leaders before you make dumb comments like 'taking over' get a grip
That person is whipped.
@Elda and doesn’t get any
Oh yea so is stadia In fact cause of him Sony got over a 100 million sales (true story if u look deep into it )
@ The cell - are you 6yrs old ??
LMAO!! How when all 3 generations of the XB platform of console sales were in last place.
That should be concerning to anyone who cares about video games.
Taking over? They can't take anthing over without games. I would bet 0hil knows that if they don't deliver on games next gen many more will jump ship. Razzer, agreed. That's ehat the headline elded to alone.
They can when they announce Windows for the SX but, until then we all got to hold tight. Even without the games. Then the games will be icing.
"we're going to see a multitude of devices to allow us to play" I'd say that's a pretty clear indication streaming only consoles will be launching pretty soon after X cloud is established Or one step further Smart tv applications to allow steaming they already run android which supports xcloud so why not Sony had psnow running on smart TVs years ago so it's possible
their vision of consoles is obsoletion.
Yep. MS even wants to make desktops obsolete, or much less relevant. They want their platform used everywhere. They're not even hiding this from the public. It was laid out in Nadella's long term plan for the cloud, and it's the biggest reason they gave away win10 for free. Theyll still support desktops, or similar systems, because there will always be demand, and cloud isnt practical for everyone for many reasons. But consoles are a hardware expense that costs MS a lot of money to keep going. If they can move all their services and games to be platform agnostic, outside a MS logon of some sort, or running on a virtual platform through cloud, theyll make more profit with less work. Eventually, like with the windows platform, they'll enjoy being one of, if not the most dominate player in the market, and be right back where they can control 95% of the market.
Spencer is a pathological liar. The Xbox brand has tumbled underneath him apart from an over priced Xbox one launch matrik had Xbox brand singing. Even now next gen you don't physically need to buy a Xbox console anymore
“ The Xbox brand has tumbled underneath him” Based on what? He had turned the Xbox ship around by acquiring multiple studios. Xbox SX has alot of consumer-friendly features such as backward compatibility and smart delivery. So what has tumbled? “ Even now next gen you don't physically need to buy a Xbox console anymore” So I’m confused. Is this supposed to be a bad thing for gamers? You want to spend more money to play game? Or do you get some kind of percentage from MS for every Xbox SX console sold?
I think he turned the negative aspects of the system at launch around, although a lot of that was already being done before he took over. His biggest asset when taking over was that he was a more trustworthy spokesman than mattrick. But the first couple years of his tenure was leftover from mattrick, and since that dried up, his offerings have been pretty dry on the games front. I feel hes brought a lot of good things to the console, but some seem aimed at a larger goal that MS has, and probably would have happened in some form with or without spencer. I think Spencer is running xbox the way MS wants him to, and taking it in the direction that MS wants it to go, but when most of his reign was not delivering games, it's hard to see him as a savior. He procrastinated for years on the game front, and basically hyped himself and the brand up, and only recently does it look like something is being done. When it takes 4 years to start showing that your finally starting to "save" the brand, its not a good testament to his ability when you ask why it took 4 years to cross the starting line.
Pathological liar???? Says the anonymous person on the internet...lol
Talk is cheap,show & prove.
Stadia TV or Pixel home, Tenner bet.
Maybe one of the front-runners could elucidate as to what their vision for the future of consoles is, as that’s sure to carry more weight.
So if Phil Spencer vision of the future is correct, we'll have 50 movie, music and game publishers direct debit subscriptions to setup with the bank and pay for but we'll have all that on the go on whatever device we choose? Edit: btw I'm not saying that's necessarily a good or bad thing, but that's gonna be alot of £9.99 direct debits unless we as a gamer pick and choose the months you want? So maybe ND for a month or 2 with a big hitter release then cancel when GG nxt game comes out then cancel that when kojima productions game comes out etc. So I guess gran turismo moving fwd is gonna be £120 a year to play as I play online mainly so rather than a 1 off £55 digital purchase it's gonna be a monthly price from the publisher PD? (sorry for using playstation as a example but I don't own xbox for obvious reasons) but hopefully that makes sense, so more money spent on games not less?
everything is moving to owning several different subscriptions why cant it be the same for video games. People can bitch about it but enough want it so stop bitching. You have have forums about people bitching about music subscriptions ? no because music people are not dorks bitching about nonsense,OMG MS is giving people an option to pat 10 bucks a month and get a bunch of games,What a bunch of assholes. OMG netflix gives you a subscription a month with many movies and spotify.What amazing companies they have to provide us with content
"btw I'm not saying that's necessarily a good or bad thing". Who's bitching?
The one that will be the most successful is the one that can facilitate those subs for people. Basically, whoever can structure it like amazon prime does its channels. If one of these companies is smart, theyll allow smaller publishers who dont have the means to start their own service, make their own channel within the hosts bigger service. Of course, then everything becomes piece meal, and it ends up being overwhelming for the consumer, or more expensive than regular gaming, and its questionable how many people would actually end up playing more game time than they would otherwise.
Totally agree, I buy at least one full price game per month and every other month a good indie title so that costs me about £450 a year add on ps plus and that's a rough £500. Introduce gamepass, EA access, ubisoft service, Activision, bethesda, ps now etc @£9.99 per month for each service and we're all gonna end up paying way more imo. Like I said, it's OK atm cause we still have physical but once that goes away in 10years we're left with paying more not less? Yes a bigger game library from the services provided but a large amount of these library's our mostly filler? imo. It was nice to try mudrunner, farm sim and shadow of the beast though the other day on a 7day free psnow trial
Well....I'm not the norm myself. I can buy 3-4 games a month, or in rare instances none. Depends on what's releasing that month. I like supporting games that I know I want to play. Money doesn't concern me as much, so looking for deals is more for games I passed on initially. However, if I really get into a game, I can spend a month or more playing that one game almost constantly. I think when I got into Borderlands, I spent 2 months playing BL2, and a few weeks playing BL2:TPS. Now, I'm about a month in on BL3, and will try to get the platinum. This wreaks havoc with my back log of course. But, lets say I got a sub service. Well, with 200 or 700 games depending on which service I pick, I likely could always find something I want to play. But I would always feel like I'm not supporting those devs day one the way I like to do. that's where they make a bulk of their money. If I was using it as a supplimental service, then I'd be OK with it, because it'd be used to play games I passed on, and likely those devs would be making more on older games than they would from game sales. I just really have no need for such a service, because I always have a backlog of games I have a committed interest in playing, as opposed to just browsing for a game that looks like I might want to play it when I'm ready for a new one. I have nothing against these services. I think they're fine even if someone chooses them as a primary way to consume games. They just aren't for me. I think there are going to be several big players going at this from different routes, with a lot of similarities between them, but i think there will be a glut of services all competiting for attention until a few win out. During that time, I don't see it being that value based, and I'd rather just play a game than look through all the services to decide which one is right for me....which is what's starting to happen with TV/Movie streaming as more networks are entering the fray. If Amazon didn't make it easy to subscribe to those channels, i wouldn't bother with them, because as it is, I have Amazon Prime, which gives me the prime benefits which I'd want either way, and a streaming service. Then I can easily just swap out which channel I want to spend the next month or two binge watching. But then you get rediculous licensing stuff like they have with Big Bang Theory right now. CBS has the broadcast rights. But can only show the current season on their streaming service. HBO has the streaming rights for the rest. But they don't put it on HBO Go, but instead a 2nd streaming only service, and that's when it starts to get confusing and annoying for the consumer. It's things like that that make me think that there will be a streaming crash before we see a few strong players win out among the rest, and all these other content providers will be at the mercy of these dominate providers. Same will likely happen in gaming unless measures are taken to work together to avoid it....which probably won't happen. In the end, it will actually fracture the nature of exclusives and availability on various platforms more than we already have for a lot of 3rd party content. For 1st or 2nd party content, I think it will be hard for people to justify signing up for additional services when they have one service which has enough content to keep them satiated until something more interesting comes out, and gaming isn't exactly a binge exercise.
Your strength is shooters. Get some new first party exclusive shooters and stop remaking the same game. Buy PUBG while you’re at it and make PUBG2 for next gen that runs higher than 30 fps.
Soooo still no mention of games but loads of nice buzzwords 😑🤷🏻♂️ 😂
Sony has 8 exclusives this year for ps4 while xbox one has phil making empty promises and that horrible bleeding edge which looks like a last gen game.
I think they have a handful of AA "console" exclusives comming to xb1 this year so thats not entirely true... they just arent nearly of the calibur of at least 4 of sonys bangers this year... now if you disagree... youre just being dishonest with your opinions. Now, MS have had years where they clearly dominated with games... but that was either midway through the 360 gen and laughably... in the beg of the xb1 gen... and that was it. How many consoles have the best games in year one or 2 and then die off? Not many Oh and bleeding edge does look laughable for an xb1x game thats "the most powerful console ever created". How are there games on a base ps4 that look better?
MS has some good games this year. Only one high profile AAA game though, which if we're all being honest, is what most of us are talking about when we discuss their game output. I think people are often unfair towards MS on the quality of their games. Generally, their 1st party games are high quality. Not all, but most.
This compulsive lying executive is all talk and no action, im still waiting on that power of the cloud to make all our xbox ones 20x stronger than anything available.