But creative director says “it would be great” to see a PC version in the future
I have to say, if we are going down that road, Last of Us II and GOW 2 would be amazing. ( YES I Know )
word it would show off the Power of the PC, PC dont have many triple A games that show what the master Race can do a days... but with Sony games that can change....
So many 3rd party AAA titles hit PC.
@kaff A lot of ps4 exclusives have been ported to pc?? Really? I must be living under a rock cause a " Console exclusive" doesn't necessarily count as real exclusives since they do get ported to pc.... If God of war, horizon zero dawn, GT sport, the last of us, uncharted 4 or ratchet and clank go on pc, then I can see what you're talking about......
Sorry dude. PC users can have as many Xbox "exclusives" as they can handle, but Playstation exclusives will be staying where they belong.
Don't know what kind of rock you've been under, but a lot of PS exclusive have already been ported to PC and more are coming. Fanboy kids think of PC like it's another competing platform against Sony or Nintendo, it's not, it's an open platform where they can release their games and get it 100% revenue as long as they release it on their own store, and given that PC revenue is close to be as big as all consoles combined ''33B vs 38B', they would be pretty dumb not to. Microsoft already figured this out, and given that Sony is starting to release their own games indicate they are starting to get it themselves. I doubt Nintendo would though, they are too dumb for that, look how long it took them to get into mobile, a platform that takes 48% of all gaming money.
"But creative director says “it would be great” to see a PC version in the future" i wouldn't expect much to be said from contracts under NDA. but yeah that does open up the future possibility. or if it was already in the works but under NDA.
Yet they've already lost several exclusives to PC and XBOX lol
@Kaaf Not part of this insecurity competition, but i don't recall any SONY first-party game ported to PC, only minor second and third party games.
@kaff Define "alot".. As I can count on one hand the first party games Sony have published on PC.
You mean like horizon and Detroit?
( YES I Know )
i like Dreams but at the same time there are a couple notable roadblocks i see from a creators perspective. it looks like fun, but then from a creators perspective it depends on how serous you are as a creator. For the moment it costs $40 and none of it goes to creators. this also poses a difficulty running a patreon along side it. because patrons would have to pay $40 on top of becoming a patron. which many patrons would reject the notion of having to pay extra on the side for anything these days. and if you wanted to make a free demo of your work you wouldn't be able to as Dream demands money upfront. so far this has been on my mind. my two cents.
no doubt this is constructive criticism. but yeah it depends on how serious the creators are. or if they're ok with freely displaying their talent with the exception that Media Molecule sets their fee over any donations.
so you're saying the gamers do all of the work and Media Molecule takes home the money and review scores? wow.
It's a hobbyist thing. Maybe one day paid content will be allowed. I don't see it as a thing to criticize over. If someone is only going to make content they get paid for, then there are other means to do that. In the mean time, the community that is into these kinds of things tends to be pretty creative, and surprising with their efforts to make this stuff. In any case, I doubt the $40 up front cost to buy the game is going to be much of an issue. Over time, the cost of the software is likely to drop, and the $40 is pretty low already. Plus, there is a lot of other content to play as well.
Tech We already have free mods on pc and maybe you don't know this but if developers see someone creative/ talented that person is hired with base salary of 75+k So do you want them to make 40 dollars or 75k. Dreams could get some jobs for gamers who don't really have other avenues of getting into the industry
it's kinda sad though isn't it? who knows what creators make. say that gamers put some of their best efforts into their work. and they look back years later never collecting all major benefits. it's sad.
Why do PC gamers want the exclusives of all platforms for themselves? You guys don't have enough games to play as is? All the emulators allow you to play pretty much every single game from every single console there is other than PS4. Plus all the PC games from the dawn of time but that isn't enough. It has to be ALL games on PC isn't it?
Uhm yes. Games are made on PC. In the past consoles had unique architectures but now consoles and PCs share the same architecture. It makes zero sense for a game not to be on PC anymore. coming from somebody that rarely plays on PC.
I wouldn't mind the content creation tools to be available on PC. I find that easier to use myself. Mouse and keyboard support would be nice, although the set up for creating games is designed for controller and move right now. I'm just used to using PC for such things. Otherwise, I'm kind of indifferent, but would be fine with the game being on PC.
@Zeref, So tell me; if there were no exclusives on any console, what would be the reason to own one over a PC? Why would anyone buy a console at all? There would be one platform in that case: PC.
Because consoles are dedicated gaming hardware. It's pick up and play. You never have to mess with settings or drivers. Also it's a better value for performance. Console gamers will always buy consoles. PC players will always play on PC.
PC gamers want to see the game in all its glory. Just wait till Death Stranding pc release and watch how fantabulous its going to look. Its to the gaming worlds benefit in fact. Would have loved to see a maxed out with better shooting Uncharted 4 on pc even though I have already played it on PS4.
"Why do PC gamers want the exclusives of all platforms for themselves? " Well.....yeah. Why wouldn't we? "All the emulators allow you to play pretty much every single game from every single console there is other than PS4." Not really. PS3 emulation is still a long way from giving us "every game" and the ones that are there often don't run very well. Besids, you can't run PS3 games from the disc and I'm not a pirate. I play PS2 games on a emulator after I have created an ISO copy of the physical game disc.
my god you sound insecure. It’s a game. If it comes to Pc who cares. Some people who play only on pc wanting to play an exclusive on another platform is a bad thing now? You PlayStation fan boys are something else. You act like the exclusives are a god or something. They’re GAMES. Who cares where you play them.
We do? Because an article says so? Lol. Hungryalpaca is right. You sound pretty insecure with that all projection and generalization.
@Hungryalpaca & Giblet_Head It's not insecurity. I just don't want Playstation to end up like the Xbox. I want Playstation to thrive. It is my prefered way to play games so that is how I want to continue playing games; on a Playstation console with a controller where everyone has the same experience as everyone has the same specs and controls. If PS will lose all it's exclusives, the brand will disappear. It's as simple as that. Just like Xbox. Xbox is in a transition of becoming a virtual platform. It will leave console gaming behind. Even Phil Spancer said that their competition isn't Sony or Nintendo but Google and Amazon. That should tell you all about their plans. You want to play PS exclusives? Buy a Playstation. Very simple. No one is stopping you. If I want to play xbox exclusives you know what I will buy. Not an Xbox that's for sure. I will buy a PC. See? I don't want that to happen with Playstation. You can hate exclusives all you want but there is a good reason for them. If you guys can't see it, than I don't know what to tell you.
@AnubisG Dude. Sony isn't gonna move all their exclusives to PC. There'd be no point in buying the stupid boxes if they did that. I already own a PS4, feel free to check my recent comment history for proof. I couldn't give less of a shit about Playstation games much less Xbox games ending up on PC personally. Some may bother with them on there, but what passes for AAA these days always ends up boring me anyway, first party console games are almost never an exception, especially the movie wannabe types with bare as hell gameplay.
@Giblet_Head, It's fine if you don't care. It's also fine that I do. We are all different. Sony has been talking about releasing some games on the PC lately and I just don't think it's a good idea. That is all. I said why already and I care because I want to keep gaming the way I love gaming. I also like to game on PC as well but mainly strategy games or games I can't find on PS. I wish Xbox would do more in the console market to give competition to Sony because if there is competition than we are the winners as gamers. As for AAA games. There are a lot of good ones but gaming is the same thing as food. Everyone has their likes and dislikes. I like a lot of AAA games myself.
Sony and epic are in it together. It wouldn't surprise me if Sony were to release some of the older titles on epic game store Sony owns all of David cages ip that he worked on under Sony yet those games ended up on epic store. I think it could be beneficial for both sides
I'm pretty sure Sony licensed those games to a new publisher to put them up on EGS. Sony made money on the back end of things, but they had nothing to do with the PC publication. It's unreasonable to assume that Sony would license out all their properties to be published on PC in the same manner, although I suppose it's not impossible. More likely, they'd just publish it themselves and keep the bulk of the profits from the ports. As of right now, I think there is only one 1st party game going to PC, and that's more due to the MLB license requiring it. Since Sony wanted to keep the franchise, they had to agree to that stipulation. I'm more surprised it wasn't like the NFL license with EA, where they're required to release it on platforms cited under the agreement.
Rain Sony didn't have to do anything I think you are wrong. Mlb came to Sony and asked them if the game could be released on other platforms since no one else is making any mlb games Sony could keep the license under 1st party banner and there wouldn't be a damn thing mlb could do about it. 2k had an exclusive deal with mlb but even than we had mlb the show games on playstation. 1st party exclusive sports titles work differently. EA has a exclusive NFL deal yet Sony could stray making nfl GameDay and as long as they keep it exclusive to playstation Ea wouldn't be able to do much. Companies like EA and 2k sign what is known as 3rd party exclusive deals
Hungryalpaca Horizon isn't on PC, just a rumor.
They had one of the co-founders saying late last year that a PC version was planned, but would be down the road lol.
It would be the worst thing for Sony to do. They won't be releasing it on pc because the only thing sony has over the competition are exclusive games. Nintendo doesn't count because their base will never leave.
For a game like this, it would be one of the BEST things they could do. Expand the community, keep it going, find more talent they could even potentially recruit to their studios... A game like Dreams is about the only one that DOES make sense for them to port.
Little big planet had a shit ton of user generated content and it didn't need a PC port for that.
I disagree. Dreams is the perfect game for Sony to release on PC, it would blow up like Minecraft. And people would flock to a PS store app for any PS game.
@ShadowWolf712: sony has banned games or made them clean the games up because of sexual content. and you really think they are going to give mods a chance to do whatever they want with Dreams? lol never
Sony has brand recognition over the competition and a quick look at the top best selling games on the PS4 and PS3, more people buy playstation consoles to play multiplatform online focused game than to play Sony's 1st party games.
@Imalwaysright: people can buy almost any console and play mp games. people buy PS for the exclusives. and they play mp games while they wait for the exclusives. others buy the console because the people i just mentioned bought it, and want to play with them. MP games are a on every platform, so why didn't most console gamers buy a xbox one? now you have your answer
I’ll settle for the ps4 version for the moment.
That's a shame, I suppose.
Yes, PC would be the platform for content creation while using mouse and keyboard + 3rd party support.
PC players will have to keep “Dreaming”. This has taken almost 10 years of Sony pumping support and funding into the studio to make Dreams a reality, and that focus on an exclusive endeavor has resulted in a nearly perfected title. The PC market’s last title to approach this level of dedicated support and creative freedom was Spore, and EA cut it short on dev time and fizzled it’s ambitious concepts. Sony isn’t going to pull an MS and give it away after letting this gem grow to maturity. This is the kind of game that moves hardware and defines the pinnacle of a generation. It’s receiving well earned accolades and Sony deserves the credit for working to add this to their library of exclusives that continue to make PlayStation the best place to play.
One; I already stated, the cofounder publicly stated coming to PC is planned. It will just take time. So this is just one company insider conflicting with another. Aside from that, your glorified Sony commercial was kind of cringy. This coming from someone who is currently playing Dreams as I post this.
Co founder what? Sony owns mm and the IP and allowed it to be rebooted many times before mm got it right End of the day its the publisher not the developer who decides
I've been following Dreams news pretty closely and I don't remember ever seeing that. Link?
"give it away"? Lmfao you Sony zealots are something else man.
Zeref It doesn't make any sense what so ever to release this on pc right now but maybe few years down the road It's a huge investment Sony made and sonny's goal is to move hardware. If people want to play dreams they have to own ps4 but if it's available on pc than they don't. It's basic business supply and demand. Pc gamers have been begging for yes that's right I said it begging for bloodborne and that has yet to happen and which year did that game launch again 🤔
I wasn't aware that games on PC are free. I thought Sony would still charge them money for it.
What do you expect from the majority of user here on N4G, reasoning? Don't even bother.
Neil Breen as Neil Breen
So much for the narrative that Sony is pushing for all their exclusives to go to PC.
I said this before; if PC gamers will get a single PS4 game on PC than they will want them all. For PC gamers, there is no such thing as enough games. It must be all games from every platform available on theirs just so they can felx on everyone that there is no need for any console just a PC because PC does everything. They just can't stand the fact that there are games not available for them.
Lol "flex". Or maybe; just perhaps, they simply want to support titles they're interested in via their platform of choice. There's plenty of people who have no interest in going in on a proper gaming PC, yet I have no issue with them having access to virtually any title. A gamer just wants to see good games in the hands of as many as possible. They want to see those games be successful and grow. It's fanboys who cry over which box you need to be playing it on.
@TheRealTedCruz Do you know why I said what I did? Because THE most disgusting fanboys I have ever had the displeasure of speaking to are PC elitists. Yes, they "felx" on everyone. They look down on console gamers, they go crazy if they see 30fps and they are starting to hate on 60fps as well. I can't stand people like this. And they want all the games. Not just some games, but ALL the games to be on PC so they can tell you that they got your consoles games too so you are a pesant for playing on console. They don't have the time to play all these games anyway. It's just pure greed. Exclusives are good. They make a platform into what it is. Exclusives breed competition wich gives us better games. Look what is happening to Xbox. They are transitioning into a virtual platform. XBSX is their last console there is no doubt. I don't want Playstation to end up like that. Why did PS1 win over N64 and Saturn? Exclusives Why did PS2 kill the Dreamcast and win over Gamecube and Xbox? Exclusives. Why did the Wii win over PS3 and X360? Exclusives Why did the PS4 win over XBOne and Wii U/Switch? Exclusives Do you see a pattern here? It's better for games and gamers to have multiple platforms with their respective exclusives and I'm 100% convinced about that. I'm sure PC gamers can survive without Dreams and God of War. If they feel so strongly about these games than no one is stopping them from buying a PS4. In fact, I encourage them to do so.
I'd argue Sony has been more successful in the console market due to longer support and better company decisions rather than it being strictly exclusives. -N64 had cartridges which limited support -Sega pumped out too many consoles in a short amount of time -Xbox support was limited -the Wii had a great marketing campaign and was aimed at people that didn't play games with Wii Sports, technically exclusives but it back fired when they tried the same thing with the Wii-U. the Xone was an embarrassing reveal/PR nightmare and the Wii-U wasn't any better, both system received little support. -The Switch has a similar sales trajectory to the PS4, it's also a system that fits a market with no real competition and had significantly better marketing compared to the Wii-U. Sony's success is no shock, exclusives are part of it but it's not that simple. You're also painting a very broad brush towards a fan base, most fans on systems including PC don't care about all the drama on forums. You can also make a platform successful by offering a better user experience, Steam is incredibly successful because it offered a free platform that was feature rich with tons of sales throughout the year, exclusives alone didn't do that. Halo came to Steam, the vast majority of people were just happy to finally have core Halo games back of PC after 10+ years. When an article popped up with a limited amount of people asking for a Nioh port this site was pretty bad: https://n4g.com/news/201736... When a port was announced there was crickets in comparison lol: https://n4g.com/news/210744...
@ TheRealTedCruz Problem is those very same people you're talking about use words like "peasants" and "plebs" and put down and belittle those games of course until there's talk about the game being on PC then all of a sudden its "they want to support titles they're interested in", they could have supported them before had they really been interested in them.
"I said this before; if PC gamers will get a single PS4 game on PC than they will want them all. " lol....what is wrong with wanting the best games available? Sony's games are incredible. So much so that yeah, I'll buy a PS5 at some point if I have to. But....if I don't have to, why would I want to? It is pure economics. I "They look down on console gamers, they go crazy if they see 30fps and they are starting to hate on 60fps as well. I can't stand people like this. " The beginning of this generation had plenty of PS4 owners gloating over Xbox One owners over 1080p vs 720p. The second half of the generation had plenty of Xbox One X owners gloating over PS4 Pro owners over native 4K vs checkerbox rendering. If you want to talk about "looking down" at other gamers then you don't have look outside of console fanboys. Yes, plenty of PC gamers brag about their system's capabilities. But it is absolutely hilarious that console gamers get bent out of shape when it comes to PC graphical superiority when it disrupts the predictable flow of the console war.
Nothing wrong with wanting them. Criticizing Sony for not giving them what they want is another matter. While I'm indifferent if Sony starts releasing on PC, I can see why they'd prefer to leverage those exclusives to their console platform. If they had a Steam like presence on PC, or owned an OS, then yeah, it may make more sense to release all their stuff on PC, but since they don't, and most of their services are tied to the console, and they make most of their money through software sales on the console store, I can see why that would take priority for them. As far as how the PCMR treats us console players, maybe that's something I just don't see here that much. I know it used to be more prevelent, but I felt that since Steam became popular, a lot of that kind of died out. This article's comment thread is the first time I've seen a lot of hostility between the two market's user bases, and I'd say it's not just one side that started it all. Seems just a few people that are poking the bear. For the most part though, I always felt that PC players around here mostly ignored the console discussion, or rarely came into the discussions, and the few that claim to be PC players seem to have more of an Xbox bias which makes me feel that their intentions are not entirely about PC propaganda. Otherwise, I always felt the PC crowd was generally pretty civil about console gaming around here.
Maybe Sony will possibly wait & see how long the game is popular on consoles,once the user base starts to slow down on the console version then it's a possibility they'll put the game on PC. I'll be picking this up in the morning for my PS4 Pro.
I see that happening too. But I think it will be more about time. Ps5 gets the game 1 year or 2 before PC. Those games would sell a ton with 2 release dates. It would be smart to also release a PS app for PC.