Playstation 3 is More Hardcore

GamerLimit writes: "Sony is the world's most recognized electronics company. The company name is synonymous with reliability and value. When a consumer buys a Sony product they are not only buying that product, but they are buying the name, with confidence. From cameras to televisions, computers and consoles, the Sony name floods any electronics store. Since the release of the Playstation, Sony has pushed the envelope of the gaming world. Sony has lead gaming to grow from a childish form of entertainment to a mainstream hobby. Gamers today come from all age groups and backgrounds and there is no better console to appease them all than the Playstation 3."

[EyeShield 21]

Like I said Earlier on the Xbox is More Hardcore Thread
Theres isnt such thing as a "Hardcorier" Console . The players have plenty of hardcore games to chose.

Theres Hardcore Shooters for both consoles theres plenty bloody games for both to . Ninja Gaiden Sigma/Gaiden 2 , DMC4 , RE5 coming out , MGS4 , Uncharted ,GTA4 , Bioschock , Fable2 , Resistance , Gears .
theres even a Few one the Wii . Madworld coming out , No more heroes ,Manhunt2 , Scareface ,The conduit.etc etc

Im off to another thread with my MAX SPEED!!!!

[Gue1]

i second that =)

[Cwalat]

dear god, not another "i'm more hardcore" post...

wtf is problem with these journalists?

[el_bandito]

+1. Still goes down to preference. As most say, The most "hardcore" gamer is the one who owns all of 'em consoles, handhelds and gaming rigs. Unfortunately, I'm not one of 'em.

[Time_Is_On_My_Side]

I personally think a hardcore game doesn't mean it has a lot of blood in it. It's how you achieve your main goal(s) in a game. For example a consider Starcraft 2 to be hardcore. I also consider World of Warcraft, X-Plane, or DarkStar One. These games are about depth and will most likely have the least amount of blood in the game.

The ones you mentioned I would say they are some of the hardcore action/action-adventure games.

[SL1M DADDY]

That title is reserved for gamers, not hardware.

[SonyOwnsNextYear]

I thought a hardcore gamer would want ALL of the LATEST technologies in one package.
blutooth, bluray, ssd upgrade, firmware upgrade, wifi.

I know as a hardcore pc gamer i was always into the latest and BEST hardware....

[zPlayer]

360 is more hard core for your money :( and ps3 is more hardcore for your entertainment :)

[psnDevistator356]

Plays on the PS3

[SaiyanFury]

While I would argue that the more "diehard hardcore" gamers play on the 360, the PS3 is easily the best value on the market for all of the reasons the author states. On top of that, factor in painless media streaming, easy to swap out HDD, built in wireless connectivity in every make and model, HDMI 1.3, built in media card readers, BlueTooth compatibility in every make and model, and the list keeps going on and on. I like my 360 I really do, but as for bang for the buck? The PS3 trumps it's competition at practically every turn value-wise. Sure, 400 bucks is a large pill to swallow but what you get in return is a fully robust and reliable HD console that delivers on every front and will keep on delivering with more firmware updates and added functionality. Keep going Sony, you're doing great things.

[arika]

even the heavymetal rockband metallica plays ps3.

[Bathyj]

Little Big Planet is the most hardcore game there is.

Dont laugh, I'm super serial.

[Rhoic]

The only reason why I think the 360 is somewhat more hardcore.. is because it is strictly used for gaming alone.. and is also used for official competitive reasons..

But, that doesn't mean the PS3 is not hardcore.

[StephanieBBB]

lol Bathyj your very right. Hardcore for me is something that you have problems mastering because it's so frigging hard to master.

I haven't mastered LBP yet because of the amazingly advanced creations you can make. But im usually first place in every FPS online game with least deaths and most kills. And wipeout HD is cake to me. Beat all my friends in fighting games too usually lands on 5 wins for me vs 1 for them. But something about LBP makes me not being able to master it. Might be able to figure out how to create everything by the time of 09.

[Keele]

LOL, MORE HARDCORE.

Like you know what hardcore is, buddy.

[joni]

...and you know, eh? You must be a nerd teenager that buy Mature games hidden from your parents, hey?...Or not. Now playing Banjoo?...

[Keele]

Oh please, stop insulting yourself.

[ravinshield]

playstation 3 is MORE HEAVY

[Rapture333]

PS3 is more heavy eh? I have a 32" TV, but I'd rather have a smaller one... because it's to heavy....

[M3 Superhero]

haha ur flaming is soo horrible that no one agrees wit u = P

[Keele]

No, you damn idiot. The fact that it's pissing them off enough to disagree with me shows that my flaming is actually very good.

[Killjoy3000]

When you have to actually acknowledge to us that your flaming is good, that's when all of us know it's bad.

[Jamie Foxx]

if it wasnt for sony you wouldnt be playing the type of games you play today,there would be no xbox and gaming would not be as big as it is now.

sony brought arcade quality games into your living room and games like wipeout made gaming cool,games like metal gear and gran turismo brought gaming to the adult generation.

would there be car simulation games like forza without turismo? singstar,buzz sony has done alot for gaming whether you support other consoles give credit where credits due

[nice_cuppa]

and if it wasn't for nintendo, sony would be nothing in the games industry !
Microsoft would still be making pc games though !

[bumnut]

thats funny

[YogiBear]

Msoft would still be making DOS operating systems.

[butterfinger]

had their chance to use Sony to further their own technology and they declined, rudely at that. Sony has given us something completely new each generation and has advanced video gaming much more than Nintendo ever has. Nintendo resisted CD's, forcing you to buy their cartridges, they resisted DVD's (and still do in a way lol) and forced you to buy "mini CD's". lol. The Playstation brand has aged with its generation going from more Crash to more Metal Gear to more of a multimedia hub for its now-older demographic. Microsoft jumped in (no pun intended) when they saw an opportunity, and they innovated in their own way, furthering the industry even more (HDD, amazingly robust online functionality). I'll thank Nintendo for bringing video games to the masses in the late 80's and early 90's (and for some great games, of course), but I'll thank Sony and Microsoft for the way I play my video games today.

[kewlkat007]

There is a lot of credit to be served way before PSX.(I guess it's good thing Nintendo got Greedy and voila the PSX was born.)

As always consoles evolve over time..so it kept getting better, just as going from Atari to NES.

Every console maker piggy-backed someone before them..Sony happened to be a BIG name in the Electronic business which really helped them.

[MURKERR]

sony brought gaming out of the playground and into the living room metaphorically speaking

sony made gaming kool simple as

[Jamie Foxx]

nintendo has been gaming for years and its always been seen as a kids thing through the nintendo years, SONY brought gaming to an adult generation, sony made gaming a hobbie for all and not the stereotypical 'games are for kids and geeks'.

ps2 sales justify my point, i am not saying sony invented gaming im saying that they made it a more immersive experience a thing that was finally considered a cool thing to do

why is it anything thats posted on n4g people try to act like its flamebait or twist what said? was my opinion not valid? was i saying sony invented gaming? sheesh grow up

[thenickel]

Developers have shaped every generation not Sony so please remember that praise like that is nothing more then the fanboy coming out of you. Different companies have done things to expand the market and make it easier on developers to make good great games in a shorter time. If I were to give anyone praise (even though I'm not a Wii fan at all)it would be Nintendo for saving the gaming industry and not Sony. The gaming industry was bound to grow and still will as games become more realistic to the point were movies are obsolete. Now Sony did expand the market with there brand name presence but so did MS and Nintendo even though by not as many.

[kewlkat007]

"nintendo has been gaming for years and its always been seen as a kids thing through the nintendo years."

Nintendo had most of the market at one time and had plent casual and hardcore games as some would like to put it but it was more so plenty of big name 3rd Party titles left nintendo since sony provided a better platform(hence the cd-based format + failed add-on attemp for nintendo). Before that happened Nintendo had all types of games and the PC platform had more of the adult games you speak of). It wasn't Sony that brough that to gaming.

Again Sony provided the platform but it's the devs that made the platform what it is today. On another note: How you distingush mature gaming? FMV? Blood? Genre? ESRB rating? 3-D world? Nintendo had MGS and NG and other games at one point...were they kiddy games back then?

Sony had 75% of the market-share of course them PS2 sales will be justified. All I'm saying is yeah give credit where it's due but Sony would be nowhere without what Nintendo was able to do. I just don't agree sony was responsible for adult orientated gaming....and Nintendo was for mostly kids back then.

[butterfinger]

Perhaps you are right to an extent, but as YOU alluded to, Sony did provide the platform for the more mature games to reach a more massive audience as evidenced by both the PSX/1 and PS2.

"How you distinguish mature gaming?" - That's easy, you distinguish it by the themes of the games. Nintendo relies HEAVILY on games with childish themes such as Mario anything, or Warioware, etc. On the other hand, Sony relies more so on games with more mature themes such as Metal Gear 4 (much different from MGS on Nintendo, but that was still a hardcore game, the game has evolved), Resistance 2, and Uncharted. These mature themes include games that put the player in realistic-seeming life or death situations, not Mario getting bumped by a mushroom. The easiest way to see the difference is by looking at the statistics on the age groups that play each console. More 25-40 year olds are playing the PS3, while the Wii is being played by 5-12 year olds and casually by older adults, mostly.

[SonyOwnsNextYear]

if you guys did not know what 2.4 said, thats crazy.

the only reason playstation was released was because NIN did not want to share royalties with sony....(remember back then: SEGAgenesis touted better processor over Snes, yet still many multiplat games sounded and looked much better on Snes.....until that whole polygon war started: starfox,32x addon for genesis,virtuaracing), Nin still owned gaming at that point due to the 32x being more of a gimmick, which i bought. I had both consoles. nintendo owned portable market too; gameboy.

Basically SONY, came out and sh1111ted on everyones cartridges. Nintendo, sega, atari, NEO Geo with their ridiculous prices.

[Figboy]

you guys BOTH need more bubbles, so here, and you are both right on the money.

Nintendo saved the gaming industry from the brink in 1985, and they MADE me the gamer that i am today that same year, when i was 6 years old and got my hands on Super Mario Bros for the first time, but Sony has fathered the MODERN DAY gaming industry, by introducing gaming to the mainstream (which is a double edged sword).

and while i don't care for Microsoft, they added their own mark by introducing the concept of HDDs to gaming (brilliant move in my opinion), and refining online gaming (the Dreamcast introduced online gaming to the masses, but it was LIVE that REALLY unified it for gamers).

what has Nintendo done the past three generations?

1) forced you to use cartridges, when the industry was moving to the large disc based media.

2) forced you to use mini-CDs, when the industry was moving to the larger DVD medium.

3) forced you to buy your Gamecube again, with a new motion controller, and play on your SD set, when the industry was moving to a larger storage medium, and the soon to be standard HD format for movies and games.

don't get it twisted, Nintendo STILL makes some fantastic games (look at Mario Galaxy, Metroid Prime, Legend of Zelda, etc), however, they are now courting a different audience.

Ken Kutaragi doesn't get enough credit for expanding the gaming industry with the original Playstation.

for those that don't know, the NES sold 60 million units. the SNES sold 60 million units (to the SAME 60 million that bought the NES).

the Playstation 1 sold 110 million units. that's an industry growth of 50 million NEW GAMERS. the Playstation 2 sold 140 million and COUNTING. that's an additional growth of 30 million NEW GAMERS. that's simply fantastic for gaming at large.

Nintendo is doing it's thing to woo mom and dad, and grandma and grandpa, but that generation just wasn't brought up with gaming like WE were. they may have some fun when you bring the console over, but very few will go out and buy one for themselves. and if they do, they probably won't gravitate beyond the Wii Fit's, Wii Sports, and Wii Music.

Shigeru Miyamoto is the grandfather of the gaming industry.
Ken Kutaragi is the father of the modern day gaming industry.

hell, even the Playstation controller has become the relative standard by which ALL controllers are based (the Xbox and Gamecube controllers were modeled after the design of the PS1 Dual Shock controller, with some modifications, naturally). most PC controllers are based on the Playstation design also.

when i was younger, we were teased for playing video games. now, we have celebrities and other "cool people," touting how big of a gamer they are (we know the truth, but still, that was UNHEARD of 15 years ago, before the PS1 launched).

it amazes me to think how far this industry has progressed since i was a boy.

now that i'm a 29 year old adult, i want a machine that caters to not only my 29 year old self, but my 6 year old self that's still buried somewhere in my mind.

the PS3 suits BOTH of those needs; i get my MGS4s, Uncharted, and Resistance 2's to appease my adult, HD loving half, and i get the Ratchet and Clanks, Pixel Junk Edens, and Little Big Planets to appease my younger self.

i don't think any console is more hardcore than the other, but i believe in giving credit where credit is due.

[SaiyanFury]

Butterfinger, I don't think I could possibly agree with you more. That was one of the most accurate posts I believe I've ever read. I'm going on 30 in January and as such I grew up with the original mainstream consoles. The Atari 2600 Junior was my first way back in 1986 and I got the other consoles as they came out. Master System, Genesis, NES, SNES and so on. I got my first PlayStation in 1996 about 6 months after it was first released. Since then, I've moved on from Nintendo because it seemed the console had matured as I matured along with it. Sony itself, wasn't responsible for making games on their platforms more mature, but they were responsible for making each console "grow up" as it were. I now have a PS3 and a 360 as well as a standalone BD player. I have a 61" 1080p HDTV and a full on 930W 7.1 channel surround sound home theatre. I've matured as the games industry has and Sony's consoles have matured along with me. I left Nintendo back in the 90s when I was still a teenager, and as long as Sony keeps maturing along with me, I'll remain a PS loyal customer. Well said, sir. I couldn't have put it better myself.

[acedoh]

I don't think any console is more hardcore than the other. It's the games plain and simple. Games that are more than just about beating them. Online gaming and objectives that are objectives with rewards and much more to games and make them more hardcore. Resistance 2 is a whole other game than it's first incarnation. With trophies and co-op gamers spend hours upon hours trying to accomplish more goals. Making it much more hardcore. A hardcore gamer that is an adult either has an addiction or is unemployed. For the amount of hours you would have to put into a game to be hardcore it's almost impossible with a full time job.... Although many still manage to be hardcore.

[YogiBear]

if it wasn't for Space Invaders none of them would be here.

[Itrguy001]

maybe u should do some research between Sony and Nintendo. Nintendo declined the offer from Sony when Sony tried to advance Nintendo but they Denied Sony of that chance to prove Nintendo so they took what they had learned while they were with Nintendo and used that when trying to make their first gaming console

[RememberThe357]

Dude you come one here every once in a while and set the records straight, and I got to thank you for that. N4G doesn't seem to want to let me give you bubble for that comment above, but thank for your insight.

My N64 and PS1 were pretty much my first consoles, and I think it was that generation when you saw Sony take the torch from Nintendo as the leader in gaming. The PS2, for me, is the king of consoles, nothing compares. I love my PS3 and I think it's the best peace of hardware I own. The content I get from mt 360 and PS3 is amazing, but the Wii sits there and is played every once in a while by my little brother. I like the situation with the big three right now, they all push each other and I hope they continue to duke it out for generations to come.

[Matpan]

All I can say to jamie is... the first to actually bring arcade quality games wouild be Neo Geo or Sega, for what that matters... Those are two TRUE arcade makers who turned to the console market.

Sony just had more money to push it´s console forward. As far As I see it Dreamcast was a much better console from day one than PS2 is, as well as the saturn beated PS1 in many areas (ill fated sega marketing and previous hardware installments made it a lousy seller outside japan). Sony, it seems, is good for the long runs. Which is perfectly ok... But don´t go saying sony is the alpha and omega of the console market. It was a multi billion business before sony even decided to enter it... And gaming itself too. Sony just joined the wave...

[Gue1]

LOL... -yeah because the "{{{opinion}}}" of some guy from some website is the only and real true, right? do you know that everybody has different opinions? that's why i prefer the PS3 and you the X360...

this contributors from N4G are the worst fanboys. 0_0
now i understand why we see so much flamebait articles on N4G.

[nice_cuppa]

writen, posted and approved in under 3 hours !
I wonder what instigated that ???
Lol !
Oh and a hardcore gamer would have access to all systems !

[nice_cuppa]

its only fun to mess with you if you think im serious !
Just killin time at work !

[Harry190]

Time kills you.

[nice_cuppa]

so this guy says ps3 the other guy says 360 !
Who is right ?
Meh !

[Harry190]

is bi-polar.

[paskowitz]

some valid points but in general a pointless article

[Cernunnos]

Funny thing is, as a competitive gamer the PS3 has a lot more competitions going than 360.

[nice_cuppa]

google pro gaming and then come back and edit please !

[Halo crazeee]

I wonder why MLG is based on the 360 and not the ps3?? You might want to check gamebattles also and compare the amount of games under each platform then come talk about competitive gaming.

[GiantEnemyCrab]

You sound as misinformed as the stupid article. More hardcore? LOL Yeah, PS3 and it's Sackboys are sure hardcore! Wasn't the 360 shunned because it was so "hardcore" and now it's cool? LOL Gaming and the internet is like Wild Wacky Action Bike(you won't know this joke if you didn't see the SouthPark ep).

[PimpHandHappy]

when you replace 5 360's and continue to buy games for it that makes you MORE hardcore

hardcore what is the qeustion!

[Dan_eire]

You're all fools, Wii is More Hardcore... and you know it!!

/end sarcasm

[butterfinger]

we'll see that article soon enough. lol

[Foxgod]

Actually, by now, PC is more hardcore again.
How can you compare a console to an I7 720 with 12 GB of DDR 3 and a Geforce 280 XT :)

[Irving]

You spoke in a typical 'hardcore' PC gamer way :D

[Foxgod]

O yEAH :D

[Boty]

Intel core 2 duo Extreme with TWO Nvidia 280s also with 4 GIGS of DDR3 RAM! Water cooled and inserted all in a nice black (with blue LEDs) Antec 900 case!

Stick that in your Shader Pipeline and smoke it!

[nice_cuppa]

are kes recons neo geo is most hardcore !

[ReTarDedFisHy]

you're 4cough, aren't you?
"haaaaaaaaaaaa"

[Blink_44]

LittleBigPlanet is more hardcore than anything on the 360.

[thenickel]

It's not more hardcore then XNA games studio. XNA alone makes 360 look pretty hardcore when you think about it.

[gametheory]

Oh wait...

Next time people, remind me ultra man knows jack sh1t about videogames.

[thenickel]

It's spectraman donkey brains spectraman....I know what XNA is so quit whining already. XNA tools are for hardcore gamers who want to make games for 360. That's hardcore wether you can deal with it or not lol.

[Rock Bottom]

But the question is: Is there any hardcore XNA game? you know for hardcore gamers to play...

Because hardcore gamers =/= hardcore developers.

[thenickel]

I'm not sure yet but when it get's here I don't think that just because they play games on XNA they will be more hardcore.

[Rock Bottom]

Correct me if I'm wrong but, XNA have been available since 2006, and they're just updating it every now and then, am I right?

[thenickel]

Yes it's been available but only for those that pay a subscription to make game's using it. So this week it will be available for all Live users to download games like they do XBLA through NXE. A year ago (for only a week)they did however give everybody a taste sample of what people were making.

[Boty]

You have to know C# and pay 100 fr*gg*n dollars to use the stupid program. Not to mention VB C#. You know How I know all this? Because I tried the stupid thing! You won't see many causal 360 gamers try to develop using XNA like you would see Casual PS3 owners create cool levels with LBP.