Reports of PlayStation's demise have been greatly exaggerated, even as Xbox claims to be moving on.
Ahhh look Forbes again...
Nobody click on it this time! Lol
I never do. This site, and a few other sites, I completely ignore reading or clicking, but I do usually check the comments, and it's usually a confirmation not to give the article the time of day.
It does not matter unless you take that advice and apply it here on n4g. Either way, these types of headlines make their rounds due to the traffic and comments on this site. Traffic is what brings this info into your basic search engines so that any unknowing consumer that searches for gaming would see this in their results. I understand the irony of me posting to inform you/others... but sharing this info could lead to everyone just ignoring these media tactics used by companies to not only stay relevant, but to negate their media monopoly tactics to bring down/tarnish the competition.
"It'll happen, eventually! Maybe not this time, but it'll happen someday!" Someone at Forbes must have found the memo the Xbox team sent to their bosses at Microsoft to try to justify dumping billions more into another console.
Even if I did, they wouldn't make money from me, because I won't turn my ad blocker off for them. Which means I can't read the article, because they care more about their clicks than their work, and prevent you from reading the article if you choose not to support their ad service. Their titles, and people posting quotes in the forums is usually enough to really get the jist of what they're saying. In any case, articles like these are just ways that N4G users can use a spring board to discuss topics. I doubt anyone really cares what they have to say when we can just say what we want to say.
Yes, again with this bs.
If I didn't know any better I would think that of all these pro Xcloud and pro Gamepass articles were paid for hmmm...
You're just as bad as the article
It's really easy to spot a sponsored news now and days. It all starts with pro-xbox and neverending mention of gamepass and cloud crap.
Good thing is a good thing, no one needs a payout
Ahh I love it when all fanboys can put there difference aside and agree on one thing.. Forbes definitely got to go.
99% of Forbes articles now are just BS posts about PS5 and Xbox Series X lol
I must have psychic powers 2pac, i somehow knew from the title it would be a Forbes article, very spooky.
I'm about ready to flat out block the site. I've only done that once before, and that was gamingbolt.
Strange, there were a few Xbox relayed articles that were less than flattering by Forbes and I saw no mention of the dislike for them as well. This site has renained the same since it began. On tioic, Sony/PS4 dominated this gen with stellar games. They will deliver just as good or better games next year. MS/Xbox as a company is planning on competing on a global market in and outside of consoles. They see cloud gaming as a growing medium. They have invested billions, R&D, infrastructure, etc in their cloud services, Azure. Cloud gaming is growing no matter of one's own personal preference. Hence, the MS and Sony partnership that will allow Sony to utilize Azure. A win for both.
Forbes has really lost it.
But you've said the exact same thing as them in previous comments. Did you even read the article?
TK Read Forbes paid sponsored articles about Xbox
@neutralgamer1992 Dont tell me to read something when your unwilling to do the same.
As long as Sony keeps making great games they aren't ever getting left behind, not next generation, the following generation, or the generations after that
True, as long as they’re using Azure.
Any server farm will do lol Yep, games is where it's at, always will be, really looking forward to seeing what sonys devs do next gen, hopefully we get a few teases soon.
With or without Azure. Personally, I'll never use cloud gaming
You realize Azure is just a platform. Pre-cloud days companies bought servers of which many ran MS software and services. Azure is not the only cloud platform either. Sony doesn't need to be a cloud provider to still be very successful in the gaming space. I wouldn't conflate Azure business with the xbox business at MS. Two very distinct Lines of Business at MS.
I assume that all of you consume your video and music content strictly via CD, vinyl, DVD and disc, generally, because to deny that gaming won't, at some point, be a streaming future is just silly. Its gonna happen and you just can't get your head around the fact that Sony are not in a good position, neither are nintendo. I personally hope they xbox, playstation and Nintendo all join forces using MS cloud to kick Google and Amazons arse. I know which companies I prefer
Music I don't. I still buy CD's. I still buy BluRays and UHD's, but I also stream movies and TV. A future I can agree with. The one and only future, no, that's a ways off, and I've been around long enough to have seen MP3's and streaming movies be called the death of physical.
I buy both my movies and games physical. As long as I can continue to do so, I'll continue gaming :)
Bro. I'm with you. I own hundreds of blu-rays, still buy vinyl and have thousands of Cd's but I accept that gaming is gonna go digital and online only in the future.
SSHHH don't rock the boat
@gunstar I buy my game physical because if the internet goes down for whatever reason I can play my games and before anyone say anything about this happens on rural area only I live in NYC and although it’s rare internet blackouts happens.
They're currently the leader of the market that is being talked about in this article. I'm not sure why it's MS leaving Sony behind, when Sony is already at the destination. MS is still on their way to the destination, and you have Stadia and that NVidia thing with their hats in the ring. I kind of feel it makes more sense to wait until MS is showing growth in a market that they will eventually enter into, before claiming they're leaving the market leader of said market behind. At the very least, wait until MS officially releases in that market. If MS is leaving the console behind, then no biggie. Maybe someone better will take their place. But, I fail to see the benefit of reducing your presense in a market where you're making a good amount of money in, even if you aren't the market leader. MS isn't failing in the console market, they just aren't doing as well as their competitors. But, that can always change as times or circumstances change, and if MS were to just leave the console market behind, they may find that in the future, they won't have such an easy time getting back into it if the tide swings back the other way. Just look at all the publishers who chased after the MP market since last gen. This gen, they've shown some htis to their profits or revenues because they didn't diversify their portfolio enough. Now, the pendulum is swinging back towards SP being relevant again, and they have very few offerings, while those that stayed in the SP market are having some huge success stories. Not just Sony, but a good number of the Japanese publishers, Square and Namco being stand outs, and Nintendo.
Forbes strategy of milking a topic three times a week using three writers and get traffic.
The real question is why are these articles continuing to get approved here?
Do these idiots have a quota or something for the dumbest articles.
"Reports of PlayStation's demise have been greatly exaggerated" Reported by whom? How do we vote to fail this bullcrap article?
Press the little gear icon near the title, hit info, then you can report from there.
Forbes has been reporting the demise of PS for years now. I guess they're now saying that they greatly exaggerated in those articles? Oh, and Xbox fan boys like to say such things, although I don't know if that's technically a report. Either way, they've been wrong all generation about that as well.
Never thought I'd see such a piece from forbes that make me lose brain cells.
Funny how you see Microsoft and Nintendo saying they don’t see the other console manufacturers as competition yet the actual market leader Sony don’t say the same thing about the other two
They did once say that PC was more of a concern. But I don't think that was them saying that they didn't consider the other console makers competition. I believe the context was that when it comes to the attrition of users, PC was more of a threat than people going to Nintendo or MS for their gaming needs.
You can’t be in the console market and not be in the console market at the same time
Apparently you can. MS is becoming like any other publisher with a lot of the moves they're making. They're technically a console maker because they make and distribute a console. But if you really take that part out of the equation, couldn't you look at everything MS is doing in terms of software seems more like what you'd expect from a 3rd party publisher, or the things that 3rd party publishers already do? MS is using the Xbox name to push the services and their software. Nothing wrong with that. But I feel that MS intentions for the long term lay elsewhere, and Spencer pretty much saying that outright makes me think that MS is looking to change how they approach the market. If they have a platform, that platform will be a service, which essentially amounts to a storefront with a delivery service. It's their way of challenging Steam, because the entire world is a much bigger market than the PC market. What are these services if not just a storefront to a decentralized platform? A platform which is easily adaptable to any kind of software code. Steam is a content delivery service with a store front. Cloud streaming is a content delivery service, which can have a store front.
PlayStation is also a service and has been long before Microsoft started making these decisions. - You can already use Remote Play across a vast variety of different smartphones, tablets, laptops & desktops. - You can already access PlayStation Now on PC. Both of these services will expand to more devices with a lot more functionality. That doesn’t mean Sony will stop considering the other console manufacturers as competition.
"Playstation's demise" I've not seen any rumours to this effect. Methinks Forbes are just trying to create a sensation here. Clickbait in its purest form. Don't fall for it people!
It's a new one on me too lol
When you see stuff like this, you know the writer isn't even an actual gamer.
ok, how can I remove Forbes from my feed?
These used to be funny. Now it's just sad.
Forbes again... It's just getting sad at this point
All this hype for a streaming service. It's unbelievable how much they try to control the industry without consulting the actual consumer.
MS money is flowing...
Forbes gtfo alredy!
Can we just throw Forbes in the trash already?
By the title I should wait 10 years to buy a Microsoft console.
Don't even do it then.. The Japanese still live by Honor and protect their culture. Sony and Nintendo will always be better gaming companies, even when Microsoft has the power advantage... Since they spend more money on advertising than they do on game development, and their always looking to game the system and lock everyone into their greedy schemes.. Only suckers don’t see this.
Another 'wishful thinking' article from Microsoft championing Forbes. Microsoft cannot simply say "we are no longer competing with Sony". Only us gamers will decide that. This generation especially Playstation has had so many exclusive releases that Microsoft is not even in the neighbourhood, let alone close. It has been no competition. Sony won that in 2015, hands down and then every year since. Sony will continue to do what it does so long as we gamers want it to. No wonder Microsoft is trying to discount Sony from the entire competition ahead of the next generation. It sees similar results looming and wants to try and convince us that this time it will be better as though it can forecast the future. It can't.
I think MS wants people to focus on service based game delivery methods more next gen. I see this kind of current narrative from articles like these being more about lessening the appeal of consoles as a whole, which I suppose MS is hoping will trickle out to the larger social media circles, and cause a snowball effect which will make game streaming cool. By saying that they aren't competing with Sony, they're basically trying to sell the perception that the console space isn't worth competing in any more. While that may be true for them....which it isn't considering how much they make there....they know that if people own a console, they're less likely to adopt a service based delivery service. The thing about service based though is that it isn't like consoles. People can, and likely will, use more than one service, so even if Sony is doing better, it's not like they're never going to get that customer because the vast majority already made their hardware choice. So, in a sense, they aren't competing with Sony in the streaming market, or it will be more akin to how Netflix and Amazon Prime compete.
@rainslacker I see your point. I agree that it is more than likely that people will use more than one service and that there may well be a marketplace where MS is competing with Amazon and Google. As long as Sony sticks with supplying software for its hardware like it has for the last quarter of a century, it doesn't matter how small or large that console market is, Sony will most likely endure and continue to thrive.
If games are the final outcome then Xbox will never leave Playstation Behind... fun fact they are using more and more the name Microsoft in the communications instead of Xbox because they know that the Xbox name is done... Playstation is not competing with Microsoft it's competing or better it's eating the Xbox alive...
PlayStation's demise???, am i in some alternative dimension.....oh no its just another awful Forbes story, seriously this site needs banning.
How, how do you say Xbox will leave the Playstation "behind" while presenting no evidence of such - *IN THE TITLE OF YOUR ARTICLE?!* They're saying that the next Xbox, not the one they've yet to put out but the one after that, their current streaming plans, will supplant console gaming and win the "console war" by default. This is magnitudes of BS well past "cloud streaming will enhance XB1 games". And they had Crackdown 3 as an example of that.
But, with things like this, it'll be a good number of years before they can be proven wrong, and no one would hold them accountable even if we find the outcome tomorrow. I mean, you'd think they'd still try to present some facts or not discount things like Sony already being in the market being talked about, but we can't expect to much from journalists nowadays. Apparently, the gaming and entertainment press is made up of all those who couldn't manage to get into college, or decided that life was a better educator.
When i saw the headline i thought....that must be Forbes......and BINGO