According to a new survey, millennials have a "connection" to PlayStation while Gen Z feels the same about Xbox. Why the split?
Im gen x and I pick both. Well... all three. MS, Sony & Nintendo.
You know most people my age don't even realize that we are in the group called millennials. They put so much negativity into being one but the are just trying to get us to hate ourselves.
@eonjay That's because almost all millenials are selfish no nothing brats that should have been spanked instead of catered to like the rest of us. Jus saying, no dig on you
Yep - same. Nintendo on occasion.
I'm Gen X too and I will play on anything. Picking a single box and defending it as if your life depended on it seems very irrational and bizarre behavior to me. It's natural to have a preference, but it's ridiculous to think that your preference has to apply to everyone.
sure is good those people are extremely rare
Hate has no home here!!!
Good for you. Not everyonw has the time or the money for all 3 so most people have to choose one.
That's fine. But that doesn't mean people have to only praise the one they chose and trash talk everything else...
@CornsogBurglar, That is true but when you choose a console and spend your hard earned cash on it and you are so happy that you get to play games finally and than go online and see assholes shitting on your console of choice than you will become a little defensive. It's human nature. You made a choice that you think was right and it is brought into question by a good portion of gamers for whatever reason. You naturally become someone who defends that system not because you blindly follow that company but because your decision making was question and no one likes that. This pretty much happened to me. I used to not care about what system I was playing on. I used to own a PS2, Dreamcast, Xbox and PC. Than the PS3 gen came around and I waited 2 days in line (never doing that again) to get it and once I got it, for years online all I heard was how shitty the PS3 is and the Xbox 360 is way superior. So yeah, I became defensive and I'm not the only one. In many occasions, even when I went to gamestop I was told to tarde that "trash" or "shit" in for a real console (xbox360).
Oh, I definitely understand that man. And it's fine to defend whatever console you like. Nothing wrong with that at all. Because at the end of the day they all have their strengths and weaknesses. If you like your console that's all that matters. But defending your console of choice isn't the same as bad mouthing consoles you didn't buy, you know? I just don't understand the whole idea of that. "My console is the best and the others suck" mentality is weird.
This reminds me of the political differences found between millennials, which tend to be leftists/socialists/big government advocates, and generation Z, which tend to be more in favor of free market economics, individualism, meritocracy and limited government.
Wtf has that got todo with anything. Centre Right wing conservative here (UK) yet I'm playstation first and foremost for a long time. For a fee simple reasons but primarily the exclusives and the wider range of genres they are part of. Same goes for any of my friends with similar political views.... so...
Gen X has always been the sort of middle of the road centrist gen
I would pick Nintendo and Sony for consoles and Microsoft for gamepass which I can play on PC
I can never take these surveys seriously, as it's always a small amount surveyed compared to the amount of gamers out there.
Then you don't understand how a survey works. It uses around 1100-1300 people as a sample, any more than that the survey becomes more and more imprecise... The "amount" of gamers don't matter, what matter is that you take a varied sample of your universe. There's a way more precise method: the census, but it is completely impractical, you need to question almost the entire population of your universe. Now, you don't want to expend that kind of money in something this silly, you do it for the real stuff: access to health care, family income, education, etc
It’s used for marketing and surveys can be made to say anything you want it to. Any other beliefs is a moron staring at the snake oil sales man with hearts in their eyes and their soul in their hands.
Apparently fluttershy doesn't know how averages work SMH.
The amount DOES matter. There is no such thing has having too much data but having too little relative to the size of the total audience does definitely have an impact. You must gather the data from your sample size relative to the predictive size of the total market and then you only know if you have enough participants if the data gathered passes a T-test for statistical significance. How many gamers are there that own each of the three consoles? So Nintendo: 50M + Xbox: 60M + PS4: 110M so a total of 220M. You must question about 5% of that total to get any kind of accurate answer. So about 11M participants. Yeah 1100 people questioned isn't going to be very accurate.
@calactyte Your understanding of statistics is unfortunately incorrect. If it truly worked the way you have described, then almost no surveys would be useful at all. Surveying 11 million people is totally impractical and completely unnecessary. There is a point at which increasing your sample size has virtually no impact on survey accuracy. Sample size is determined by many factors aside from just the population size. In fact, population size really doesn't factor in much at all. You certainly don't need to sample 5% to have an accurate survey. What's more important is the survey method being unbiased to ensure the individuals who are sampled are chosen totally at random. The sample size would be determined by other values like your confidence level and margin of error. For example if you wanted to conduct a survey with a 99% confidence level and a margin of error of +/- 5%, your sample size need only be ~650-700 people. That will work whether the total population is 20,000 or 200,000,000 as long as your sample is random. The T-test you mention comes into play after you've already gathered the data and determined whether it has a normal distribution. So 1100 sample size is a perfectly fine amount if they used a proper sampling method.
The methods used are also just as important as the sampling frame. In fact, voluntary response surveys are notorious in the statistics community for being the most prone to biases such as non-response bias. I would say the sampling frame for this particular survey is fine. One more thing to note though is it's very rare for an academic research team to just conduct one study and call it a day, but you see it all the time with these videogame-related surveys. Conducting one study is fine if you build on other similar studies conducted by comparing and contrasting your results with those ones. However, even the most well-thought out quantitative studies could come up with results that would be an outlier when compared to results of other studies. Hence, if there's the budget for it then multiple surveys are often conducted to increase certainty that the data collected is reliable.
How does more data make it more imprecise? The bullshit some of you people talk..
Look at a tertiary book or take a course on statistics and you will see that the smaller the sample size the greater the uncertainty becomes. It is also possible to skew results especially if there is a "biased" sample such as say 10% in the 12 to 16-year group, 40% in the 17 to 30-year group, 30% in the 31 to 50-year group and 20% for the rest. A simpler way would be to look at the total purchase of each game console (the PS4 leads the XB1 by over 2 to 1) as well as the number of games and their genres for each console. Of course, that won't show you the age demographics unless you actually ask people to answer a questionnaire and that brings up privacy concerns.
The more important part of this kind of survey isn't the numbers. It's the test population. For instance, considering how successful Playstation has been every single generation, and the fact that Xbox has NEVER beaten them, it seems likely that this survey was only done in the U.S. Especially since Asia has a huge population and almost none of them play Xbox.
" It uses around 1100-1300 people as a sample, any more than that the survey becomes more and more imprecise" "The amount doens't matter" which is it?
People never agree with surveys that post results they don't like....
Where can I find the methodology used and all that? Cause it can't find it and that usually means there was weak internal validity.
Must be in the US, because outside no one would choose an Xbox.
Tell that to my British friends on live
@father That is anecdotal evidence which does not at all show statistically significant evidence that British people prefer Xbox. Sales of each console would likely be the best way of knowing and that data has been around for a while.
I appreciate that both groups of fanboys will be offended by these results.
Stupid gen z'ers. Wonder what Gen Y thinks. Are they switch?
Msdos or Linux.
Is there an actual gen y? Also, my comment was a joke. People need to lighten up a bit...not you, just those hitting disagrees.
Gen Y is millenials, no?
I dunno. I got tired of keeping up with who was who, and classifying an entire decade or two of people in a way that implies they're all of one hive mind.
Speaking as a person who prods every now and again just to get a sense of our N4G community, because, you know, science; joke or not, people are still way too serious and far too quick to jump to conclusions for this sort of joke (we are getting better). Not that it means anything, but I appreciated your comment.
No biggie, but I appreciate the sentiment. Sometimes it's just good to laugh about stuff sometimes, but a lot of people seek to think everything is an attack.
usual Forbes clickbait bollox
hmmm if accurate that's interesting. Gen Z grew up with netflix and youtube.
I’m 21. Gen Z’s time frame is from 1995 to 2015. I was born in 99, so I grew up with a lot more than just Netflix and YouTube haha
You were 6 when YouTube came out... So basically you probably never experienced internet without YouTube. And 11 when Netflix came out.
It wouldn't be surprising. Generation Z grew up when Xbox was getting started. Xbox had a lot of mindshare at that time. It was more popular with youth because it was the new thing, and Xbox started heavily pushing multiplayer earlier. It makes sense that generation would be more favorable towards the Xbox brand.
The name "PlayStation" probably gives them anxiety.
gen z are the ones who eats tide pods and call it a "challenge", so there goes their opinion.
you're judging a whole generation based on a tiny few there goes your opinion
Ps4 n pc. Or ps4 n switch. I still don't know why people buy Xbox.
Because some people are different. Some people like different things. Some people prefer android over iphone. Some people prefer pepsi over coke. Who really cares?
Maybe its an age thing. PlayStation has been around longer so seems appropriate. Like most surveys I'd take it with a pinch of salt tbh.
It makes sense gen z doesn't really understand what good quality gaming is, they didn't experience single player co op oldschool gaming back when it was good, nes,snes,ps1, ps2 etc. They dont care for and dont appreciate single player experiences. They mostly only care for online gaming, fortnight, call of duty, PUBG, etc and Mobil games. Their first gaming experience began in the 360, ps3 era back when 360 had a better online infrastructure, so they jumped on that and continue to follow xbox since most their gen z friends are on it.
Did a recent survey with my 2 nephews. The results are astounding. It seems people love the playstation and no one has ever heard of the xbox, though the most popular system according to the survey is the Pandora's box. Surveys can say anything you want them to say.
Well, this doesn't tell me anything because it is not about who you pick in a survey, it is about who has really won in the market who tells you the real picture. Sony: 4 generations won. Nintendo: 3 generations won. Xbox: 0 generations won.
So... it's ONLY about winning for you? 3DO didn't win anything but its existence helped shape things to come from that moment on. Sometimes it's not about who wins but about the lasting impact something makes on others.
That's how he flexes.
What did 3DO shape exactly, speaking as someone who had one it could have never existed and the gaming landscape would be no different.
Here you go solid. it talks about the significance of the 3do https://youtu.be/lwniiqhux4...
@Thurdecart77 BS! Sony Won 3 out of 4 generations vs Xbox and Nintendo Xbox won over Gamecube Xbox 360 got behind the PS3 by less than 2 million copies Xbox One won over WiiU Playstation is the clear winner, but Xbox comes in second and Nintendo in Third.
My comment is based on gaming generations won and Xbox has never won a single gaming generation and those are the facts. #DealWithIt!
somethings wrong with your math the playstation has been around for 4 gens, and lost to the Wii last gen and if the sales pace keeps going with the switch (which has outsold the ps4 in aligned timeframes, like 50 million faster then the ps4 etc) then it could still lose this gen....so it’s won 2 gens, lost last gen and could win and could lose this gen
You think Switch is going to sell another fifty million plus units before PS5 launches. smh
@solidgamer who said anything about it outselling it before the ps5 launches. The gen doesn’t end at that point, especially since companies tend to still support their old consoles well into the next gen.
Oh... It's Forbes again. Lol. Pointless.
Gen X and I choose my Xbox over PS however I own all consoles and enjoy them all