Why don't you like Xbox?

Xbox is like redbull in F1; they have the cash to (never really die and to) brute force their way into an industry, buy up notable talent, market themselves into a household name. What prospect is there under the sun they’d ever invest in a project like Souls [or Death Stranding, Octopath, Scalebound!] on the merits of the concept [though they might wait around for it to become popular before buying it up and shitting it back out]

[darthv72]

Some may say it was the timing of their entry but then i am reminded of when sony burst onto the gaming scene and the amount of disdain many showed because they felt this... 'outsider' was infringing on the likes of nintendo and Sega. "What right do they have to be making a console?" was the thought process at the time. But they changed a lot of peoples mindsets and has become one of (if not the) biggest in the industry.

MS is a software company, predominantly in the PC world but their hand in gaming extends far back to the days of the MSX. They always considered the market (video games) small and not worth the effort but things changed over the years. They too have a right to be in this industry despite what some may feel. They provide the backbone of many things people take for granted like various coding patents that companies use to help build that which we see and hear and feel on the screen.

I get there is an animocity towards MS because of their $$ they have but like the piece alludes to. They could just buy up everything but they dont. They have respect for those who worked their way up and have been trying to do the same without having to resort to buying everything up. They make deals where they can but usually those deals (for timed content) dont infringing on others who want to make the same deals. It's like MS is trying to be fair and not totalitarian. There are some really good people who work to try and right the wrong that people have for the overall image of MS but it can be hard when people still view them as evil.

Many dont know how to separate things into context. I may not care for the corporate side of MS (the ones making the decisions to cancel this or close down that studio) but I totally respect the gaming side of MS that is trying to bring about positive change in the hobby we all play. Change to bring more gamers together and providing options on how a person goes about playing, be in where to play or helping them play due to a disability. I think they get a bad rep because their view of things outside of gaming and how they handle being open (or closed) to ideas that can have an effect on their bottom line. No company is without that fault.

As for their timing to enter the hobby... sometimes you just have to jump at an opportunity when it presents itself. Sony took the chance after a failed deal with Nintendo. MS decided to be the one to fill in for Sega.

[isarai]

You can't seriously believe that...

[Dovergamer]

Isarai:

"You can't seriously believe that..."

Isarai, that individual is a bounty account. What you said is true. He doesn't believe in a single word he typed.

[isarai]

@L7CHAPEL

WTF are you on about? and who are you quoting? For someone getting on other people about "basic common logic" you sure don't get the "basic common logic" on how quotations are used.

[CaptainObvious878]

It has nothing to do with timing and nothing to do with how much money they have, but what they do with that money.

My disdain for ms started all the way back in 2001 when Munch's Odyssey was released. I played the previous 2 games on my PS1. I absolutely feel in love with these games and was eagerly anticipating Munch's Odyssey for the PS2. But MS through their cheque book around and blocked it from releasing on the PS2. And that was the start of a long long long line of greedy, monopolistic and anti-consumer behaviour from MS.

And that's not including MS rushing the 360 out before it was finished, resulting is wide spread RRoD, that's not including all the timed exclusives they blocked coming to competing platform (not actually creating their own content, just restricting existing content about to be released), that's not even including their original vision for the xbone that would have literally, and this is not hyperbole is any way, destroyed my beloved console gaming as we know it.

So no Darth, it has nothing with what you mentioned. It has everyone to do with a long history of demonstrable, tangle anti-consumer policies that are designed to extract the maximum amount of money from their consumers.

[silenthillstrangler]

*threw

[nucky64]

wow. you are wrong on so many points.

[rainslacker]

Difference is, it didn't take long for Sony to gain respect among the consumer, and they didn't go an entire generation with people saying how they were an outsider and had no right to be there.

MS, OTOH, gained respect last gen, then threw it all away, and then failed in so many ways this gen, and the people criticizing them aren't all just being stupid, but making criticisms that go well beyond, "Who do they think they are to think they have a place in the gaming industry."

Sony worked to get respect. MS demands respect, but spent years not doing much to earn it.

[outsider1624]

You know..i almost agree with you until "They could just buy up everything but they dont. They have respect for those who worked their way up and have been trying to do the same without having to resort to buying everything up..."

Ridiculous! And you actually believe that..

[Thundercat77]

Xbox doesn't have the passion for games as Sony and Nintendo. They have tried to manipulate and control the market with horrible anticonsumer tactics. They don't invest in different style of games as Sony and Nintendo. Microsoft is very arrogant and if left uncheck, they will try to dictate how we game.

But competition in the market is important too.

[GreenDragonCVR]

This guy gets it

[2pacalypsenow]

Perfect example the launch of the Xbox One.

[343_Guilty_Spark]

Sony 1st party has hack n slash and B-rated "emotional" 3rd person games, content creation. No RTS, no simulators, no flagship 1st person shooter, no Metroidvanias, etc
Etc.

I'd argue there is more diversity on Xbox and PS but the execution is not always as good as PS.

Nintendo makes the pure gameplay experiences.

[mkis007]

You wear your ignorance on your sleeve. No simulators he says ( Gran Tourismo)... All 3rd person games are the same he says (ya Uncharted, Infamous, and God of War are all the same...suuuuure! No Metroidvania's he says ( the most hilarious of claims) (God of War ).
Please tell me what Xbox puts up to compete with those?

You should probably quit while you're behind.

ps: Killzone also satisfies your fps requirement whether your a fan or not.

[2pacalypsenow]

What do you call Gran Turismo Sport and Killzone?

You might call them B rated emotional games, while the rest of the world love them and they win Games of the year..

[rainslacker]

"I'd argue there is more diversity on Xbox and PS but the execution is not always as good as PS."

Yeah....you would argue that. Too bad your first sentence is a huge generalization that isn't completely accurate.

[Rachel_Alucard]

RTS died as a genre and RTS on console is like trying to play WoW on a controller. Besides Xbox has nothing else outside of that small list.

[BeOpenMinded]

PC ports and strategy games are big for me too. I love the integration w PC gaming recently

[Elda]

WTF??

[FinalFantasyFanatic]

You pretty much only have RTS games on PC now, I can't remember the last time I played an RTS on console (it was never really a thing as far as I can remember).

[The Wood]

Another hollow comment driven by hurt feelings. How can you compare that genres both compete in with so little facts. A little research would of stopped you from spewing such drivel

[TKCMuzzer]

Sometimes you prove what we already know, you know absolutely nothing about the subject your commenting on.

[Dragonscale]

And that right there is exactly why xbox will never become the dominant platform, so small minded and ignorant. Currently pretty much every xbox exclusive is b-rated fgs. Sony have had a boatload of goty contenders this gen, xbox not so much lol.

[Rachel_Alucard]

Microsoft are the ones who marketed the idea of cutting up expansion content and selling it back to consumers in small fees to make more money. That alone tells me how much they valued quality over quantity. Now everyone does it.

[mkis007]

This is close to how I feel. Gamepass is cool now, but making AAA games available day 1 for $1 isn't sustainable( I've had a total of 12 months now for less than $15); their road map will inevitably lead to smaller games and lean heavily on multiplayer. I want gaming to go in the opposite direction. I want bigger stories, huge worlds, and repeatable games with alternate story-lines.

[NeoGamer232]

I don't think any company can be trusted. And every company uses questionable consumer tactics. Thinking that some companies are angels and others are demons is exactly what the companies try to do to each other. Marketing is exactly like politics. Demonize your opponent, make it look like you are a saint.

Your comment about game styles is subjective. Typically, I feel there are more RTS and PC type RPGs on XB then on PS for example. But, there are more Japanese style games on PS and Nintendo. It is more about the kind of games you are looking for to me. I have all the consoles and they all have pros and cons on content.

Personally, the worst thing I saw this generation was the rise of shovelware through indies this generation. Everyone was talking about indie creativity, now 90% of all indie games are just a bunch of repetitive junk. I preferred the days when consoles brought proven and successful indie games in rather then anything that anyone could make in a week. Also, the shovelware devalues gamer profiles. Gamers are racking up achievements and trophies at epic rates because of 1-5 hour indie games.

[rainslacker]

I trust any company in as much as I believe theyll release the products I want without trying to completely screw me over. I know theyll always try to think of ways to make more money, but as long as they dont go overboard with ruining what I want from them, it doesn't bother me much. If Sony started pulling EA levels of stupidity, then I'd not be so keen to purchase their hardware. Even MS hasn't been as bad as EA since they reversed the DRM. But I don't generally criticize MS over microtransactions topics since I dont buy them regardless of platform.

[Dovergamer]

Thundercat77:

This man gets it. In simple and plain words he explains why people prefers Sony over Microsoft.

"Xbox doesn't have the passion for games as Sony and Nintendo. They have tried to manipulate and control the market with horrible anticonsumer tactics. They don't invest in different style of games as Sony and Nintendo. Microsoft is very arrogant and if left uncheck, they will try to dictate how we game."

I can't say it better. Xbox gives you less for more money while Sony gives you more value for your money and time. People will choose the company that delivers and serves the exclusive games and the company that proves their delivery with concrete actions rather than empty words. Sony proved themselves since the PS1, PS2, PS3, PS4. We are sure that we will see more of the same on such great delivery of exclusives and variety of games.

The basic logic applies. Microsoft is a software company that believes in the sales of services. Sony is a hardware company that believes in the sale of video games so their hardware sell. Those fundamental facts differentiate the quality of the product, the purpose and the target audience. Sony and Nintendo are the ones serving such purposes.

[Automatic79]

I am an Xbox guy primarily but own Nintendo Switch and PS. I love the games on Xbox and all my friends play on Xbox. Xbox Live is still the best online service to this day. Overall, all have strengths and weaknesses but Xbox will always be were I enjoy my games.

[Rimeskeem]

There is no objective proof that Xbox Live is the best online service.

[2pacalypsenow]

What are the benefits of Xbox Live over PS+?

I play on both, and nothing tells me “this is why Xbox live is better”

[Rachel_Alucard]

I see marketing has influenced your opinion.

[Kiwi66]

They are pretty much even

[RazzerRedux]

"I am an Xbox guy "

Yes....we know.

[ILostMyMind]

I can only desagree with "Xbox Live is still the best online service"... this is just your opinion. The rest is just your choice. Enjoy.

[AuraAbjure]

Xbox Live 4 Lief

[Dovergamer]

"I am an Xbox guy primarily but own Nintendo Switch and PS. I love the games on Xbox and all my friends play on Xbox. Xbox Live is still the best online service to this day. Overall, all have strengths and weaknesses but Xbox will always be were I enjoy my games."

Fair.

This is why I enjoy the PS4: Reasons.

Horizon Zero Dawn.
Bloodborne.
Uncharted.
Last of Us.
God of War IV.
Spider Man.
Dreams.
Death Stranding.
Last of Us 2. (To be released)
Ghost of Tsushima. (To be released)
Spider Man.
Shadows of the Colossus.

See? I have reasons. You never mentioned a single game on your console. Do you know why? Because you have no single top quality exclusive game at the stature of those games. We have the multi platforms, the indie games and the exclusives.

[isarai]

The main reason is exclusives, they've been lacking since around the Kinect release by a rather large margin in terms of both quality and especially quantity compared to the competition. Second is the faults, focus on kinect, RROD, always online attempt, have to buy kinect bundle, no games taking full advantage of new hardware for 2yrs etc there just always seems to be something that really urks me. I love OG Xbox and the first few years of the 360, but since then the competition just doesn't leave me personally with enough reason to justify the purchase of an xbox console.

[343_Guilty_Spark]

So why are the top games on PS4 third party multi platform games?

[isarai]

What does that have to do with anything i said?

[Rachel_Alucard]

You literally can write that exact sentence for Xbox one right now. I see Fortnite, GTAV, Modern warfare, etc.

[nucky64]

so why is PS outselling MS 2:1 (and much worse over multiple gens)?

[Ninver]

You must be talking sale. In terms of quality and highest rated games, ps4 exclusives hold the crown.

[CaptainObvious878]

For the same reason millions of casuals bought the wii.

You think just because millions of dude bros buy cod every year I had any less fun playing the Shadow of the Colossus remaster?

[mkis007]

hint hint: multi-platform ( they don't factor into which console we like more because they are available on everything)

When MS releases something worthy of recognition on stage at the BAFTAS or DICE or any major awards ceremony: I'll be there playing it.

[2pacalypsenow]

Top games? Or Top selling games.

Two different things.

How many copies has Halo 5 and Forza 7 sold compared to COD, Grand Theft Auto, RDR etc...

I can guarantee you that GT Sport outsold forza even though Forza was much better rated.

[Chevalier]

Top all time based on sales 2 of the top 10 are 1st party on PS4. That's 20 percent 1st party to 80 percent 3rd as they produce the most games. Whereas Xbox had ZERO 1st party and is 10 for 10 3rd party. Xbox fails hard in sales 1st party somehow makes you think otherwise when factually top 2 selling consoles have the most exclusives and most diverse content and diversified fanbase

[kingcorey]

Why are ps exclusives rated so highly compared to xbox exclusives? What xbox exclusives have you played this gen? The only ones id consider amazing are ori, cuphead, forza horizon, and gears.. Halo was a huge letdown, crackdown was trash.. Meanwhile on playstation iv just been amazed the entire gen.. Starting with zillzone shadowfall.. The graphics were insane at the time, then with bloodborne, then the order, untildawn, infamous, rachet and clank.. uncharted 4, horizon zero dawn, gtsport then came vr... With the most livingroom fun me my friends and family have had sence rockband.. Then detroit.. Then uncharted lost legacy..Then spiderman.. Then god of war... Then days gone.. And we still have ghosts of tushima and the last of us 2 comming.. Xbox has been absolutely crushed this gen..

[rainslacker]

Why does sony have more games that surpassed 10 million sales this gen than every publisher that isnt ea or ubisoft, and maybe 2K this gen? And that's on one platform. Give you one guess how many games MS has had this gen that have surpassed 10 million.

[Rimeskeem]

Cause they seem to not know what they are doing. I am not loyal to PlayStation, I just like having exclusives, story games, and generally fun non-competitive experiences a lot of the time. Xbox provides none of that right now so why should I be interested in it? I don't not like them, I just don't care for what they are doing right now. I enjoy PC gaming and such but xbox consoles are just worthless to me.

[Battlestar23]

I like Xbox i own a Xbox One X and will own a Series X when it's released but i hate that they develop more Multiplayer games then Single Player ones which is why i prefer Playstation as they cater to my love of Single Player games. I don't generally play Multiplayer in games only in the occasion I'm going for the platinum and if there aren't many Multiplayer trophies then i would play it. If Microsoft got off their butt and start prioritizing Single Player games then i think Sony would have some real competition which i hope does happen as it would force Sony to up their Single Player 'game' and Microsoft would react to that and then at the end of the day us gamers will be the winners.

[terstomp]

Multiplayer is pushed because they want more people to sign up for subscriptions and to keep subscriptions. It's all about the money.

[Rachel_Alucard]

Why make a single player game when they lack the talent, initiative, and won't make as much money? They can't win when their 2 biggest IPs are made by studios who only exist to pump out the same games. Not to mention both aren't even made by the original studios so you have even less drive to do good outside of getting paid for it. Now if they had their own IP they made to work on, that might be different.

[Father__Merrin]

XboxOG good selection of exclusive console only games, most third party games were superior
Xbox360 excellent selection of exclusive console only games, how can you ever forget halo 3, mass effect, bioshock, all releasing exclusively in the same year
Xboxone small exclusive game list but most are follow on franchises, all games now available on pc

[Rachel_Alucard]

@father Merrin

It's not like their exclusives were selling consoles these days anyway. They won't have any developed on the XSX for 2 years for a reason. This generation hurt their image the most. One lackluster Halo game and 2 Gears as a service games don't make for a hot seller. They're just trying to bump all their software sales up. They wouldn't need to do that if people were actually buying them.

[WICKED_Wildcard]

It's not that I don't like Xbox; I just simply don't care about it. For a long time, Microsoft spent most of their effort marketing the system as an extreme, photorealistic, online multiplayer "dudebro" shooter console, which is enough to turn me away from it completely. So far, they still haven't done anything to win me over, especially with their exclusives lineup. I like to play games that suit my interests, and Xbox simply doesn't have that for me.

[GreenDragonCVR]

agreed

[MasterCornholio]

These opinion pieces are always fun.

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I like Xbox it's their exclusives that don't really interest me that much. That could change next gen but I have my doubts.

[Mr_Writer85]

I like Xbox...

I just like Playstation more.

[supes_24]

Same here, I want an Xbox but the only games that interest me are Gears and Halo. I believe those are worn out tho so I tend to stick to PS. I was a huge MS fan with the OG and 360, then I bought a PS3 and end of story for me. Not saying their exclusives are better but they do have more. For a gamer, IMO, more exclusives will get my money especially with Sony’s track record of excellent games. Now if those exclusives sucked then I’d tell a different story, but as of now Sony gets my cash

[Mr_Writer85]

I have an Xbox, I use it enough not to regret buying it, but that's only because of Game Pass.

I played through Halo 1&2..But gave up early on 3 as I was bored of the games.

Played Gears years ago, but like Halo it never clicked with me.

Same with Forza, and Sun Set Overdrive and whilst I like State of Decay I don't feel the urge to play it.

Completed Ryse, and it was meh.

Loved Ori and the blind forest.

Like I said Game Pass has stopped me from having buyers remorse. That and having KOTOR 1&2 and Team Fortress 2 in the BC programme.

It's also saved me money on 3rd party games I'd normally buy on PS4. There have been a few games I've had my eye on, then I've played them on game pass and discovered I'm not that keen (Shemnue 2 being an example, enjoyed 1 but found 2 a snooze fest)

However if I really enjoy a game (City Skyline, FF15) I buy them on PS4 as well when they're cheap.

[terstomp]

The dashboard and the ads and them pushing their own services. It's a mess.
The controller. No gyro. The parts and materials feel cheap. AA is battery is good though.
The games. The games they mostly promote I'm not interested in.
The OS. Much prefer Sony's based BSD OS and layout.

[modsrhypocrite]

I just don't like the aesthetic to it all. It just screams clunky and blocky and feels too... I dunno, western? Everything from the controllers to the UI. I loved the original Xbox, but that was back when consoles had drastically different games. Nowadays, differences in game library is pretty small. I prefer JRPGs though, and just like the look and feel of Playstation stuff better. Anime over western cartoons type of thing. I do like the Switch, but only bought it for a few exclusives and to buy uncensored Japanese games. Sony is becoming an American company... Makes me sad. I liked the unique Japanese feel of their stuff. Oh well.

[DARK_WOLF]

Because all they care about is money. There is no passion only mediocrity. Constant milking and nothing new. They dont care about the gamers even if they say they do its lies. they just want to sell you more controllers that break easily and sign you up to xbox gold + gamepass + xcloud. Riding the train of medeocrity calling it the best in gaming. Meanwhile their online is so crap they cant even host a proper reveal event on their own servers without it crashing once 30k+ viewers start watching. Its a suit and tie business with such a disconnect with what makes gaming great its sad. The dashboard is slow bland and boring to look at. Clunky with blocky unpleasant sounds you cant turn off. The constant glitches and problems with the console and online service is insane. Not an enjoyable console experience. Zero exclusives that i care about. The only exclusives that look decent get cancelled or are PC only under the guise of xbox making me feel alienated as a customer. Zero confidence the console will stay as im sure they would rather be full streaming like stadia 100% subscription based. Forever chasing the casuals and being the master of none. Making disabled controllers simply to get little timmy to sign up to gold + gamepass like they actually care. Come on.... This company is a disgrace to gaming and ive been with xbox since day one. I simply dont enjoy xbox anymore ive been let down for too long too many times and i simply dont like the direction the company is going. Theyve done everything BUT make a decent working console with exclusive games that give the console an identity. When we look back on previous consoles we remember the great games it had that made it stand out. Who is gonna look back at xbox one and remember great games that made it stand out? What games????? Its just a mediocre system and im glad i finally said enough and got a ps4 late last year. Best decision ever im enjoying playing games again.

[Dovergamer]

AMEN!!

Preach!!!

The truth hurts deep.

[bluefox755]

It doesn't provide me with any games I want to play that I can't already play better elsewhere.

[stonecold3]

im happy with sony offering have no reason to get an xbox

[nommers]

It’s not all Xbox per se. The lack of games that I’m interested in certainly is one of the reasons. But my disdain is for MS. They’re at the head of publishing and acquisitions. They tried buying up exclusive Japanese titles last gen and did some of the same this gen as well. It didn’t end well for the Japanese developers.

[_LarZen_]

I got enough money to like all platforms. Don’t @ me.

[RazzerRedux]

Not that I don't like Xbox. I have PC. I just don't need Xbox.

[CrimsonWing69]

Lack of exclusives.

[SpineSaw]

"Why don't you like Xbox"
For me the answer is simple. Why I don't because Microsoft owns it and its that simple. I gave Xbox a great shot with the OG Xbox and the Xbox 360 and what I found was Microsoft like all other Corporation's like Sony, Google ext. want your money but Microsoft wants to do as little as possible while taking as much of your money as you'll give them while IMO Sony, Nintendo and others earn the money you give them. Gaming will be better off the day Microsoft gets out of it and I hope that day is soon.

[tagzskie]

They're the one who introduced paid online, behind paywall content, and i feel betrayed. I bought xbox one for the great games just like 360 and possible alan wake sequel/prequel, blue dragon, lost odyssey, they didn't announce that they gonna release all their games to pc at first thats why i bought xbox one.

[Abnor_Mal]

Because it's fun.

Light, of my life. I'm not gonna hurt ya. You didn't let me finish my sentence. I said, I'm not gonna hurt ya, I'm just going to bash your brains in.

[kreate]

I really like the Xbox, but I don't like MS.

[TheColbertinator]

I have been a fan of the Xbox since the OG launched in 2001 and plenty of my top 20 games have had a home on the Xbox consoles from Panzer Dragoon Orta to KOTOR and Mass Effect.

However sometimes I feel Microsoft takes too long in establishing roots and presence in the industry. Oh sure spending 50 million on GTA4 DLC or going to Japan to fetch the occasional exclusive is nice and all, but ultimately the Xbox needs more mega exclusives like Halo or Gears

Not available on other consoles or even PC but something that screams "Only on Xbox". A must have game, not just a rental or Game Pass offer. Still like my Xbox.

[MADGameR]

1. X Box has no AAA exclusives
2. The delusional fanbase of X Box fanboys

[nucky64]

#1 reason - 1st party games aren't interesting to me. if xbox had the 1st party games that sony has - i'd own an xbox instead of a playstation. this isn't about brand - it's about buying what will provide me with the games i want.
#2 reason - i don't like the controller. (personal preference) - biggest problem is i HATE offset sticks.

[Ninver]

I can't legitimately justify buying such a console with an abysmal exclusive track record, compared to the offerings from the other competitors.

Next question.

[Kumakai]

I don’t. The Xbox 360 also sold very competitively o the ps3. Xbox one had a terrible launch with a terrible set of priorities that gamers responded negatively to. That means ps4 one. They had the right first party games. The one X did kick up Xbox one sales tho w/ ppl like me who want the best performance/fidelity possible on console. That being said, most people’s minds were made up this generation to side with PlayStation.

I think Xbox is Will have a much better next generation. They’ve built tons of great services and customer policies, their services are on the increase and they’re going to have a beast of a console on offer with a lower priced next gen console available for those who can’t spend more. They have a ton of new studios making first party games. Ultimately tho, most people are just closed minded once they pick a side. It’s a shame.

[Donnie81]

I love Xbox!

[RazzerRedux]

We know

[badboyz09]

3 Biggest reasons in Order
1. the controller ( The diagonal analog sticks are a BIG NO NO!)
2. Lack of Games
3. Pay for Online ( Now I no PS+ is here now but Xbox is the reason for this!!!)
IF MICROSOFT WANTS TO MAKE A SPLASH FIX THESE 3!!!!!!!

[Ripsta7th]

When the 360 came out it was the hottest xonsole around
But yes ps4 did fucking come and take everything over

[Tetsujin]

I'll purchase an Xbox when there's games I can play ONLY on Xbox that I can't play anywhere else. Not this "play anywhere" BS, but actual exclusives.

Currently the only game sparking my interest on Xbox is Cuphead, and that's on Steam and now Nintendo.

[Elda]

I have nothing against the XB platform I just don't see it & for me it's been like that from day one. When XB starts having a library of exclusives that interest me then I will buy an XB console.

[Knightofelemia]

I don't hate the Xbox I am more towards Sony and Playstation they have had hit exclusives dating back to the PS1 era. But my rule is if a game is sold out on one console I snag it for the other console. Or usually I rotate games between the systems like I am snagging RE 3 on Xbox and grabbing FF7 on PS4. As for Tales of Arise I am leaning towards Xbox just because I have not played a Tales game on an Xbox since Vesperia.

[Melankolis]

My hatred for Xbox began when they make DOA3 exclusive. But that didn't stop me from buying Xbox though.
The hate continued when they make DOA4, Blue Dragon, and Lost Odyssey exclusive for Xbox360. Still, that didn't stop me from buying Xbox360.
And this gen, i no longer hate Xbox, because i don't have any reason to buy Xbox One.

Back to the questions, why i don't like Xbox?
I've been living with single console of my choice, be it NES, SNES, PSX, PS2. Xbox, and it's existence, forced me spend more money when they secured 3rd party exclusives that caught my attention. Xbox, disrupted my comfort zone, twice.

[P_Bomb]

As the gen winds down, it’s looking more likely I’ll have sat their’s out. The exclusives never really came. Focus shifted from games to controllers and services. I’ll never buy a $150 controller and subs aren’t system sellers. If I want a game I just buy it. Nice to have a $1 library but I tend to timesink one game at a time. Been on Witcher 3 for a solid month and a half now en route to platinum. Barely even touch the freebies from Plus/Gold.

What else? Community (at least on forums) has it’s fair share of contrarian if not toxic lines in the sand that I simply have no desire to cross on a daily basis. If I have to read about ‘forests’ or ‘emotional’ one more time, lol! Odds are someone’s already said it in this thread. No desire to pay-to-play in an echo chamber that many of my fave IPs have no voice in.

[343_Guilty_Spark]

Pikachu Benadryl Juice

[RangerWalk267]

I don't dislike Microsoft. I don't dislike Sony. I don't dislike Nintendo. I love them all. They bring me pieces of hardware that makes me love my hobby even more

[FinalFantasyFanatic]

I can't justify owning a Xone (I own a 360 because of the few exclusives I want), especially when I have a PC/PS4/Switch, I've got all the Xone games from that combination as it is (or pretty damn close to it). My main draw to Xbox was Halo but now that PC is getting the Master chief Collection...

PS4 and Xone are similar spec-wise, so choosing the one with the most exclusives was the best choice (I don't care for the xone controller), PC was more powerful than both for when I want a better experience and now I can use almost any controller I want on it. The Switch was bought mainly for exclusives but it's expensive game-wise, although I love the choice of using it like a portable handheld and lazing on the couch or floor or even taking it on long car trips when I make them.

In the end, I guess my post mainly shows that I prefer having a large swarth of content to choose from.

[Da_Ocsta]

I don't trust Phail Spencer as far as I can throw him. He's a firm believer in an all streaming future and seems to believe single player games are dying. He's my own personal antichrist in other words.

[esherwood]

I’ve always owned an Xbox but have no loyalty, just convenience. All things equal I’ll continue to buy Xbox just because I’m used to it. This consul generation I came seriously close to buying a PlayStation, if next gen starts out the same I’m definitely getting a PS. I’m no liking the way Xbox is going, I’d bet anything the long term goal of game pass is to get games into as many hands as possible and make money of mt’s. $60 for a complete game is a bargain, I wish it would just stay that way or heck I’d rather pay $80 upfront then get nickle and dimed

[Charal]

It is more that I dislike MIcrosoft and how they use their XBox branch.
They don’t care of the product by itself but are constantly trying to use it to force they customers on a 100% subscription based service at all levels, as they are doing for the Office suite.

Worst thing is that it is so obvious and poorly done though bullshit PR that it seems they consider they customers as simple minded and to dumb to care.

[TheHunter81]

It’s not that I don’t like Xbox, I simply have no use for one. If I ever want to play a Microsoft game I can do so on my PC.

[J-DARKnes]

Personally I bought an xbox360 back in the day but found myself playing on my ps2 more also didn't care much for halo and gears. I did enjoy kameo but other than that the games Microsoft was putting out didn't catch my attention, got the red ring of death bought a ps3 and never looked back

[AK91]

Because current day Xbox is about services not games.

[milliniumstylz]

xbox was not nearly getting the hate its getting this gen.... its the cool thing to do.

[Tross]

I don't dislike Xbox, but I do dislike how it's being managed. It could be so much better if the executives at MS made better decisions.

[BenRC01]

The one x is an incredible machine and spanks the pro in every aspect. The issue isn't the xbox, it's the software. MS just don't care about the games and have left it to rot while sony pumped out 9/10 scoring AAAs one after the other.

[monkey602]

I'll openly admit I dont like the Xbox now.
I had the 360 and loved it but when I went through 3 of them due to manufacturing faults I started to get fed up. I sold my 4th 360 shortly after Gears Judgment had come out because Microsoft stopped releasing games I was interested in. That was when they heavily relied on Halo, Gears and Forza to piggy back through the remainder of the generation.

Then that god awful XB1 reveal. I said no straight away. Wont be fooled again. Until I did get suckered in with Gears 4 and the X1S.
I hate the UI, clearly designed with advertisements in mind, Very few exclusive games, Its slow to download, I couldn't play games until updated, in my locality games are more expensive on the Marketplace than on PSN.

I love game pass. It's the sole reason I didnt sell the Xbox a couple of years ago.

While I can't say I've ever liked Andrew House or any of his ilk, I can honestly say I never hated any of them. Unlike Phil Spencer and Don Mattrick. 2 grade A clowns. Willing to say anything and pretend to be invested in the hot topic.

[Shakengandulf]

Forza
Forza motor
Cancelled game
Halo
Forza
Cancelled game
Forza motor
Gears
Forza
Nothing.
Nothing....

Cuphead is the only thing that looks exciting.

[Einhander1971]

Xbox just never delivers the compelling games I want to play, except Gears of War. But I’m not going to buy a console to enjoy mostly one game, then just be an expensive paper weight. Sony and Nintendo always deliver.

[ILostMyMind]

It's a choice. Why would I buy an XBox when I can buy a PlayStation, a much better console?

[Chocoburger]

It's not that I don't like Xbox, it's just a plastic box after all, I can't have feelings for it.
I enjoyed the original Xbox, and I really enjoyed the first four years of the Xbox 360. Both had plenty of great exclusive games.
The problem is that the Xbox One never had an compelling reasons for me to be interested in it. They sank the console prior to launch, and no I still haven't forgiven them for their sins back in 2013.

I own Sunset Overdrive on PC. I can buy Quantum Break for PC, not really interested in Halo, I'll probably buy Gears 4 and 5 eventually on Steam and play online for free without subscribing to Xbox Live fees.

So what's the Xbox One got to offer me at this point? It takes up another HDMI slot which I've run out of now (8 HDMI slots all in use!), more controllers to buy, more subscriptions to buy, splitting third-party game purchases across multiple consoles when I can simply have it all-in-one.

Why? I got everything on PS4, and everything will move forward to PS5. Sony is going to keep everyone in their ecosystem, your PSN Store wallet, game purchases, trophies, avatars, etc.

Even if Xbox makes great strides next gen (not convinced yet, but I'd like to see it happen), it will be too little too late. With each passing console generation, this industry gets more cut-throat. Even the indomitable Nintendo released a disastrous gaming platform that failed harder than anyone could have imagined (though I did predict the Wii U would be a flop -- I still actually like the machine).

When you earn a bad reputation in this industry, its hard to get back into the positive light. Look at what happened to SEGA, they just couldn't hold it together, because they destroyed their reputation with the Sega CD, 32x, and abandoning the Saturn too quickly. They were never able to recover after losing consumer trust. Will Microsoft be able to? Sometimes all the money in the world can't make people trust you again.

[Weapon_of_choice]

Considering games and all,I have no reason to get an xbox. I already pay monthly for psn and switch, I'm only willing to do so because of games.

[Wontime1]

Question, how is this article any different than rumor articles that don't get approved here

[snoopgg]

I don't dislike Microsoft, I bought a 360 when it came out because of exclusives. Gears was new ip. Games like Condemned criminal origins, velvet assassin, project gotham racing,frontlines fuel of war, and alan wake to name a few were prevalent and exclusively on Microsoft's machine. They lost their way on the xbox one right from the start. The series x can be a different experience if they play their cards right with the new studios they acquired , but only time will tell.

[RosweeSon]

Never was interested in original Xbox until the dropped the price massively included 3 games and the smaller S controller then I bought one. 8 months later after Barely using it took to a friends to use and it was dead wouldn’t load past the X Boot Up screen, great console 😏🥴😂

Still 360 came out and was interested until a few weeks before launch the hype got me and I got a pre order in (they sold out of all launch stock) was told March got it by December. Smashed it for 9 years sure I had a ps3 also (bought day1) but 360 was my main console for sure
They got all the great games and majority were being built with x360 as lead console, big ones like GTA4... however after replacing or repairing my console 3-4 times (faulty disc drive got sent out came back week later it’s got RROD off it goes again 😑😏) still got my Star Wars 360 and if I ever wanna play 360 games again I can on my 360.
Xbox1 launched and it was terrible before it even arrived. Kinect mandatory can’t share/lend games their whole hype was about tv shows and digital services and hardly anything around the main reason I always buy a console Games. Decided there and then Xbox wasn’t happening, PS4 then came along and made it clear they were getting the devs on board and making sure they had games left right and centre, they haven’t disappointed all the games or majority have been really great as well. Xbox sure got gears halo Forza, not a lot else tho and what has come out has been awful, crackdown3 😏😑 unless Microsoft starts banging the games again I’ll be sticking with PS4/switch or their next gen equivalents. Ps5 very likely for me not in a major rush tho still working through the backlog.
To be fair and honest my launch ps3 didn’t last too long dust killed it and the blue ray diode packed up Sony wanted money to fix so sent to a third party and that was a mistake, ended up needed to replace the whole thing before long enough. Was never nowhere near as bad as RROD tho. Not even close
More to the point by the end of the gen tide had turned so I was picking up loads of great games from ps3 via PS+ and the devs were also leaning towards ps3 as lead console hence GTA5 was built with ps3 as lead console that was enough for me love rockstar games GTA is always a treat and yeah wanted it on lead platform and the platform it started on for me.

Bought an S for 4 months and sold it after smashing the exclusives haven’t looked back and apart from maybe gears5 haven’t missed anything (not shedding tears of crackdown3, 1st good 2nd 🤷🏻‍♂️ 3rd could see it was heading for 💩)

If Xbox wanna win the masses back they need to worry about the games everything else is extra but if you not got games for the Games consoles absolutely pointless.

Xbox gotta step their games up
I don’t care who makes the consoles I just want good consoles with great games more than I can count on my hands. Switch has proved this overtaking Xbox in a fraction of the time, people want games and they’ll purchase.

[RosweeSon]

Xbox have become al about monthly subscriptions and services and not paying just to keep the console online etc Nintendo did multiple systems for free sega did Dreamcast online for free Sony did ps3 online for free.
As for games pass in principle it’s a fantastic service and next gen if they get the content it Could be a winner however for someone like myself who buys all the top games worth playing and buys most indies or cheaper games in the sales anyway what would be the point of game pass specially when 3-4 years in the gen you’ve pretty much bought all the top Exclusives and games already so your then gonna sign up pay monthly/yearly to play a few games you didn’t or weren’t released yet... not when it turns out to be crackdown3... few months later it was barely £5/10 one off payment not per month a subscription service needs an abundance of games. Even psNow I got most the games, if they start this up beginning of next generation then could be very worthwhile I wouldn’t need to buy all the next gen games I’d just subscribe but launching mid gen after all your games have been and gone surely the hardcore have got them all already. 🤷🏻‍♂️🤓 ✌🏻

[MeatyUrologist]

Lost faith in Xbox brand after having 4 360's RROD on me. That opened my eyes to PlayStation as poor product quality is something I can't overlook. After owning a PlayStation 3 & 4 and playing all the brilliant exclusives, I can't see myself ever going back. Honestly the only exclusive Xbox has that I would even be remotely interested in is Forza, while PS has around 10 of them.

[Magog]

Bad controller, dudebro games, terrible monetization practices.

[Rockstar]

I like it just fine. I just happen to like the ps4 and switch more because that's where I spend most of my time (primarily PS4). The Xbox barely gets turned on these days. Although last time I turned it on I loaded up some Kotor.

[yass5505]

I love Xbox, the Game Pass is Amazing so many good games available day 1 and for such a low price. Halo and their other exclusives are great and they are buying out other studios to make good first party games in house. The Xbox One X is the most powerful Console on the market

[RosweeSon]

So many good games yet great ones I could probably count on one hand.

[HOLDERofFOOD]

Late to the game so this comment could be lost. But I don’t like Xbox because I was always with Xbox. I bought an Xbox one because I love the brand and particularly Halo. I went to the midnight release for the master chief collection, brought it home, and couldn’t play it. It was a broken mess. One month later, still couldn’t play it. One year later, still broken. But okay, at least Halo 5 was coming. Then they removed splitscreen completely betraying the fans. And why? Well the best theory I have is that games were running better on PS4 so they couldn’t risk having the game not be running 1080p 60fps in any capacity online. (Split screen is more taxing so it would run at lower fps). So they completely betrayed their fans for marketing and effectively killed their most love IP for an entire console generation. Then they continued teasing great looking games like scalebound and a new fable (although all online Fable felt like a cash grab the beta still had tons of charm). They continuously gave up on taking risks, betrayed their fans repeatedly, and ended up with a hollow console generation with only one consistent IP: Forza. We need new original games, and better treatment of the franchises we already love. I feel completely let down and betrayed this generation. That’s why I don’t like Xbox - still hate to say it though.

[GreenDragonCVR]

We certainly agree! we are NOT Sony fanboys, while we do love the games they put out we would love to see more from Microsoft as well.

[WickedLester]

To quote the late Steve Jobs on Microsoft: "They have no taste."

I've always viewed MS as an imposter in the gaming console industry and the one player that could go away tomorrow and I wouldnt miss them one iota. Theyre like that loud, obnoxious uncle at the family reunion that nobody likes but just wont go away. They came barrelling into the industry, not because they actually had anything to contribute creatively to grow it and make it better, but because they wanted to own our living rooms. MS viewed console gaming as nothing more than a means to a much bigger end. They were never interested in actually contributing anything to the console space. They just wanted to take it over and change it to suit their needs like a succubus. They got damn lucky acquiring Bungie and the Halo IP. If that never happened, I seriously doubt we would even be talking about MS in the console space today.

Now, before anyone says "but they introduced Xbox Live and online gaming for consoles." Bullcrap. I was gaming online on my Sega Dreamcast....for free, long before Xbox and Xbox Live ever was a thing. The industry was already going in that direction anyway. In my view, MS has struggled, and continues to struggle to justify their deservedness to even BE in this industry. I dont mind at all that the console space be a 3 horse race. I just wish like hell that it was still between Nintendo, Sony, and Sega and MS would get back where they actually belong, which is in the PC space.

[sampsonon]

no games.

[Sokol]

Its pretty simple.

You buy whichever consoles you prefer that has the games you want to play alone or with the friends.

For some people that's PlayStation for others its the Xbox franchise or Nintendo.

Personally my house hold owns multiple PS4s and Nintendo products.

[Godmars290]

MS is too online multiplayer focused. When they do SP titles, there seems to be something "wrong" with them. An incompleteness. Bought an OG Xbox back in the day for PD Orta, and while it looked great, it player like a transition between the first and second game rather than the further continuance or development of the series it needed to be it needed to be for the XBox as a new console. And several other games I played on the system felt similar.

[arminukxbox]

For me I don’t get time to play all the console games like some peoples can do . I switched to Xbox since Xbox 360 and I’m going to stick with Xbox next generation too

[Cmoney007]

I don’t hate MS, but it is embarrassing that the Xbox One continues to lack quality games. How long will this continue? When is MS finally going to have a quality E3 again that shows more gameplay? I still don’t see any reason to own an Xbox One because I can buy the few good games on PC. If MS had more interesting games, then people like me would be thinking about buying the console.

[StifflerK]

I was a big fan of Xbox back in the OG Xbox/360 days, this last gen has been overall pretty disappointing.
There have been good things but they've been few and far between compared to their competitors.
The big realisation I had this gen was that a lot of the things that made me like Xbox in the first place were gone and most likely will never be coming back.

This is coming from years and years of waiting for sequels to a lot of the promising new IP's they've had over the years that just never happened.
Or seeing talented past developers leave, or seemingly avoid working exclusively for MS anymore, and fewer 3rd party exclusives overall.
First party exclusives have been a mixed bag, some great but some have been really lacking in terms of quality and content.
And in my opinion - their big franchises - Halo, Gears and Forza - whilst decent are not as good as they used to be (compare the new games to Halo3/Reach, Gears 1-3, Forza 4 etc).

I don't hate Xbox in anyway, I'm just currently indifferent to it.

[Segata]

I don't dislike them but XBO didn't do enough to entice me to buy one this generation. I typically eventually end up with all 3 but this gen it was just PS4 and Switch. PS4 and Switch had a ton of series I love. Exclusives I like. Supported LRG. Get a ton of niche and Japanese games.

[RoseSapphire]

There's very little reason to have an Xbox when you can have a PC that plays the same games.

[quenomamen]

Having lots of money doesn't mean success it just means you can keep failing for a long time. MS proved that with the Zune and in the cell phone market with the Kin and joint venture with Nokia and Windows phone OS and in trying to be like Apple and opening MS stores. Remember Steve Ballmer talking crap about the iphone?
They are not originators they see a trend and try to buy themselves in. The only real success they had is the Xbox and judging by what they said recently they are no longer trying to compete head to head with Sony in that world. They are the rich kid in school who always tried way too hard to be cool by having its parents buy them everything. Well sorry MS but this isnt the 6th grade this is real life, maybe you just stick to wjat you're good at, PCs.

[FanboysKiller]

It's just a preference, who's gonna invest on another console just to experience DS like game ?, you think MS haven't thought twice about that ?, just because that specific type of game is missing does not implies MS don't stands on common ground and a rhythm that defines itself as a different platform.

[Terry_B]

There is not even one xbox exclusive game I care about. Thats all. PC & PS4 gamer here

[MehmetAlperTR]

I like Xbox.. Just don't like MS..

[Gameplayer1]

Because there will be no interesting games. And what we've learned so far,no exclusives in a couple of years...I mean,come on? What pointless crappy business strategy is this? No,bye Xbox.

[WillyC009]

Pretty simple really. I don’t care for their ecosystem. They have no worth while exclusives. They hardly even produce any. I don’t like their dashboard, way to cluttered. I don’t like the controller. I don’t like the company in itself.

That’s not even including the shady practices, RROD on the 360, bs mandatory Kinect, attempts to stop trading/preowned purchasing.

I could go on...but the real question is why does anyone like Microsoft?

[feenix-5]

Ain't gonna lie, its because they ain't Sony.

[RGB]

Incredibly poor 1st Party output, somehow worse than their 1st console too. Insane to think about when you look at it like that!

[DEEHULK88]

A sh!tload of people enjoyed the Xbox 360 and no one cares why a person doesn't like something. I have a PS4 Pro and a Xbox one x and I will never like Playstation more than Xbox and that's just how it is.

[madpuppy]

I, frankly am not a fan of Microsoft in general Just From their consistent past of entering an industry, trying to destroy the incumbents rather than compete and then buying out every other possible competition till they are the only one standing....and that wouldn't be as bad as what they do after they become the "only game in town" They attack the customer as potential thieves, drop quality (hardware and software) and raise prices considerably. As long as there is a STRONG independent competitor(s) to keep them in line will Microsoft at the least have a modicum of competing properly and even that is tainted by the shenanigans they pull every year to poke the bear and see if they can lie and cheat their way to a dominant position. Essentially, MS is very much like "The Flood" from Halo, and that is pretty darn ironic!

[Benficaman]

I dont dislike Xbox. I just dont care about Xbox.

[Mister_Wolf]

I made the huge mistake of being a dickhead fanboy and missed the PS2. When the PS3 and Xbox hit, I didn't make that mistake again. I am a gamer first and foremost, so I don't want to miss out on great games.

MS though, damn they fucked up this gen and fucked up hard. That disaster of a launch, lack of new GOOD exclusive IP. It appears they are making strides to rectify that for this gen, but they need to be clear with their vision. It is cliche to say now, because it has been repeated every year for God knows how long, but E3 will be very telling this year.

Overall, I want competition back. I want Sony and MS pushing each other.

[TommyVercetti88]

@WireMucks Don't try to convince me i know how much PS VR sucks. I own a good pc with a Oculus and i am going to enjoy the new Half Life pretty soon. That's a real VR game not a fancy techdemo like most of the PS VR games and the new VR mod for GTA V is also mindblowing.

[esherwood]

Because they are more likely to turn gaming into the mobile market with mt’s and if so I’m finding a new hobby. Game pass is the Trojan horse to get people used to subscriptions and the games are slowly going to include more and more micro transactions. This is the last generation I own an Xbox. Playing halo wars on it now and after seeing the payed dlc it’s obvious what they’re up to. Why would dlc not be included with game pass?

[andydalum]

For me it's simple and i feel like it upsets a lot of Playstation Fanboys that the reason i choose xbox is so simple

1.) I love the xbox controllers over sony always have and probably always will.
2.) I like the halo story (Yes even through all the ups and downs of the games) and plan to continue following it.
3.) Most of my friends play on xbox.
4.) I have a full time job and a young child and i don't have the time to play 20 different games. I tend to play a select few games and i try to support projects i think are good if a new studio releases something i think is good.
5.) I prefer the xbox online service over sony it might be in the past but the amount of times sony has been compromised always made me shy away from it.

For everyone who says things like i don't understand how xbox hasn't figured out all we want is games is honestly a pretty naive thing to say coming from anyone who primary games on PlayStation. Xbox doesn't have the user base (yes much their own fault) at this point to support many exclusives imo. I've said this before one game i loved and think didn't get credit was recore but with the player base being lower it's gonna do half as well as it would on PlayStation anyways. I think next generation IF and this is a big if they launch the new console and do it right they might open the way for more exclusives and a slightly bigger player base with room to grow.