PlatinumGames says it would love to finish making its cancelled action-RPG Scalebound one day but would need Microsoft's permission to do so.
Drop the multiplayer and make it a SP RPG. With the new CPU the performance should be way better If Microsoft has no plans for the IP they should give it to Platinum
Why should Microsoft give the IP to Platinum studios for free when Microsoft funded millions into the IP?
Edited. Misunderstood the point. No, they shouldn't give it away, but they could come up with an alternative. PG willing to buy something MS apparently has no use for. Would love to see the game rise from the ashes somehow.
no one has ever explained the in game-world excuse for four player coop. It only ever came off as reason to have/pay for XBL.
They could still get money from it by cutting a deal with Platinum Games whereas keeping it for themselves gives them nothing.
They could still keep a royalty agreement of x amount per unit sold though?
Just make the game into Drakengard. Done. I think the game would do well either way though, as MP most didn't like it because of the MC/Music but the MC isn't terribad and there were more types of music as time went on. That said, a Drakengard reboot would be insane and I'd play it in a split second.
@Godmars290 It may not resonate with you, especially if you have no friends to play games with. That said Phantasy Star Online for Dreamcast was one of my favorite games of all time. Destiny and Monster Hunter World also say hello.
Microsoft should let Ninja theory work on it and make it a type of game like heavenly sword with dragons ;)
We've seen Ninja Theory take a Japanese developed IP and the crap all over it and the developers who made it then on the fans for being upset with their behavior and how bad the game was looking and released. No thanks, NT can stick to their walking simulator
DmC Enslaved Heavenly sword Hellblade Is a walking simulator ? lol! clearly you didn't play those
Ninja theory is a good developer, but they wouldn’t do the original vision for scalebound justice. Platinum knows good combat. Their games have a variety of issues depending on which game you play, but they all share on common thread, fast paced and exciting combat. DmC, ninja theory’s game with the best combat, doesn’t come close to reach platinum levels of exciting and platinum levels of depth. They’re better sticking to story focused games to offset their so-so action game capabilities.
Oh I am sure Kamiya would love to see two of his passion projects bastardize his vision. He already saw Dante get ruined in one game. I'm sure he would love to see another and that would only push PG further away from MS.
Dante got ruined in Devil may cry 2, before NT even touched it! Always believe in second chances...Devil May Cry 3
Why do people forget that Devil May Cry 2 was the first DMC game that made Dante look bad?
I agree 💯! I wouldn’t mind giving them another shot either
DMC? A walking simulator? You're mistaking Ninja Theory for Hideo Kojima
Drop the cringey beats wearing teen shit and make it a bit more serious and it would sell. I liked the idea, but it always looked rough, and parts were just cringeworthy
I never understood this complaint. That's more so aesthetics. These things dont really change the plot. Petty complaints in my opinion.
People thought Delsin Rowe was cringey too, but I had no problem with him. There's actually many like his character in Seattle.
Add another nail in the coffin to why Japanese games don’t sell well on Xbox systems why don’t you. Ain’t gonna happen. You want more Japanese games on Xbox you’re gonna have to deal with the culture.
I was looking for this comment...
Regardless of what else is coming, the Series X could use it...
Despite everyone hating on the game when it was shown off I thought it was a pretty cool concept. Everybody hated the character. Just like lots of ppl hate on delsin from infamous. I find punk sarcastic characters pretty entertaining honestly.
They literally took the money Microsoft was giving them and used it to develop other games outside of Scalebound. I seriously doubt that Microsoft would come back to them after that
Yeah I remember, PG made Nier Automata, TMNT game, Transformer game & Star Fox around that time. They took MS money & made other games. Dodgy.
Source on that? Seems like something Xbox fanboys made up to defend Microsoft being a bad publishers. Microsoft forced them to shoehorn in multiplayer which ruined the project.
Did you just magically forgot when the studio head came and said the blame shouldn't be on Microsoft? That Platinum failed to deliver on deadlines? Or are you going to ignore that
Failed to deliver on deadlines is not the same as misappropriating resources. Failed to deliver on deadlines means that they couldn't meet development milestones, and that could happen to any number of reasons. Hell, it's extremely rare for any game to meet all its milestone deadlines, and sometimes, games just go through lots of trouble. There isnt a single source, MS or PG that have ever hinted at some sort of improper use of resources. If there were, there are civil, or even criminal remedy that MS could pursue to get their money back, and if this was the case, and never went to court, then PG already resolved the issue with MS. But the extremely more likely scenario is that the game went through dev hell, and MS eventually just pulled the plug. It happens regularly, we just dont usually hear about it. Sometimes it has better PR surrounding it, like say The Last Guardian on the ps3.
I see you're changing what was actually said. They said it's not all Microsoft's fault, not that it was none of their fault.
haha NO he did not come out and said that he said mistakes were made on both sides. but you choose to ignore that :) right exact quote: "Because the reality is, when any game in development can’t get released it’s because both sides failed."
Microsoft is the one PAYING for the development. There are NO acceptable excuses for a 4 year development that is STILL unsatisfactory. Make all the excuses you want, but if I pay an architect $20 million for a house, they better not prolong it's development and then come to me for more money.
" Microsoft is the one PAYING for the development. There are NO acceptable excuses for a 4 year development that is STILL unsatisfactory" Crackdown 3 says hello.
Dude of course that happens all the time in the real world. Just open your eyes a bit. Look at trumps wall. It already costs more than anticipated xD
Oh same for the new world trade center. Was supposed to be finished like 3years earlier and was supposed to only cost 1billion
@ReadyPlayer22 You need to read what they said again. And to also understand Japanese culture which would shed light on this for you. They said they took partial responsibility. In all honesty they might have been being modest because the Japanese have an honor code when it comes to blame. Even if they knew the blame wasn’t on them they’d still come to their partners aid to take away some of the blame.
PlatinumGames wants more money from Microsoft to finish the game...
They probably want more money to finish some other games they're working on lol. Seriously though everyone should just leave that ip alone, it's tainted now.
Maybe we'd get the game that was actually being worked on rather than what was being shown off. The proper game without tacked on mutiplayer.
They should let them make the game but drop the mp cause I actually liked the game, it needed work but the vision looked good to me.
What in the world makes you guys think PG can purchase it if they started a kickstarter fund for 101? Makes no sense... thats why they asking for permission... they can’t afford it right now.
Now they wanna finish it? What did they do with all the money ms gave them? Definitely wasn't going into scalebound every time they showed it it looked like an alpha
would be cool, was looking forward to this
I highly doubt that’s gonna happen. Microsoft put millions of dollars into that game all to just give it away. especially how platinum barely touched the game for a year and got paid the whole time. They got fired and have a lot of nerve to even ask something like that
Just let them Microsoft I understand you had a difference of opinion on how the game should go but I like the way this game looked from the small amount we got to see. We could really use a action RPG that is fun and won't get supported by my fellow xbox players. Scale bound i'm sure wouldn't sell and meet Microsoft expectations but I for one would love to see any RPG come out exclusive. I still can't for the life of me understand why more people don't support some of these games. Recore ( Good game) Quantum Break (Good game and good idea) Sunset Overdrive (Good game) Ryse (Underrated) None of these sold all that great and while I understand the player base is smaller on the xbox I wish gamers truly supported some new games. None of the above games were game changing but I enjoyed each of them and I wish Microsoft would take a loss on a new IP or two and really give it a chance to become something great.
You have to remember that MS has less than half the install base that Sony does. Sales are relative to how many people you can sell to. As for Recore, Quantum Break, Sunset Overdrive, and Ryse.... I think the ratings of the games are fine. I had fun with all the games, but I feel that they all had significant flaws when compared to similar games in their genres that did better.
I supported/own all of those games and I agree with 100%!! I hope now MS has new studios and brought on even more creative talent with The Initiative they can still build on those experiences with sequels. Like the difference between uncharted 1 and uncharted 2. Really wanted Sunset 2 on the series X though! I'm just going to have to enjoy it on PS5 or PC if that happens.
I thought sunset overdrive and ryse were really good games. quantum break was meh. recore has huge potential if they make a sequel with a bigger budget.
I agree. People seemed to just bury ryse because originally it was supposed to be a Kinect game, but I thought it was very fun and one of the better looking games at launch. I also thought the story was very good.
I personally would love to see it come back and finished. MS and PG need to repair their relationship and think of the gamers first. Message Phil Spencer to make it happen once again.
I'm sure he has been in touch on the subject. He tends to go to JP a lot recently so its likely their paths have crossed. And PG did respond about their riff and said they were sorry for letting it get to that point and were open to working with MS again. So who knows.
I think Phil would be open to it. MS did re-new the Ip License so its still in MS hands they have to do something with it if they wanted. MS does go to Japan quite a bit I can't see them passing up on JRPG's, especially ones that are exclusive, in which MS has none (Phantasy Star is Timed) I think it'll happen. When? Yeah nobody knows.
This was one of the very few Xbone games I was legit excited to play. I couldn't believe it when MS cancelled the game. If it were an issue with the developer, why wouldn't they hand it off to another developer to finish? I swear MS has made some asinine decisions this gen.
Who's to say they wont? They have some new teams now so it could very well be a thing for next gen.
Typically if that's the case they don't publicly announce the cancellation.
People, myself included, were so hyped for that game.
I would love scalebound as well.
waste of breathe as insomniacs ted price reached out three times to greenlight a sunset od sequel and Phil blew him off. ms doesnt care about new games just gamespass and gold subs.
Could you please provide the source on that? Thank you!
MS problems with 2nd party devs this gen (especially Scalebound and Platinum but including Crackdown) are one of the main reasons they have concentrated on and bought so many 1st party devs. They obviously never want to go through that type of thing again and want to regain control, so I doubt they would ever let PG develop it or give them the IP.
It will happen and release on X Series X.
I guarantee that if that does happen, all the same people that made fun of it when it wasn’t an Xbox game will suddenly call it a masterpiece when it’s on ps5. All fanboys are silly, but the Sony fans love double standards. Also, I have all three major consoles so no, I’m not a fanboy.
I don't see MS doing this but hey stranger things have happened in gaming.
Hopefully this happens and if it has to go to Kickstarter so the game can come out, I'm fine with that too. I know I'm not the only one that would put in some cash to bring this game out, so hopefully it will happen.
Still pissed Microsoft scrapped this title
Has anyone actually looked at the top selling games on both platforms? Because Jin isn't wrong I just looked them up and almost the ENTIRE list of best sellers for the Xboxone is Multi platform fps titles, the Playstation has a few also but there are exclusives like Spiderman, GT Sport, UC and God of War that diversify the list.
yes that it beg daddy bill for permission to work instead of behaving like a slave, fearfully and shamefully asking for permission to work, why not make your own game and call it the spiritual successor suck it ms
No, I don't think this is a good idea. PG should use their idea & concept, develop a whole new IP.