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Next-Gen Console Watch: PS5 and Xbox Series X News, Leaks, Analysis

Welcome to Next-Gen Console Watch 2020, your one stop shop for everything Xbox Series X and PlayStation 5. This week we talk framerate vs. resolution, leaked Xbox Series X photos, a GDC Next-Gen Developer Poll, what the new PS4 Back Button might say about PS5, and our feature topic: Will Backward Compatibility Affect When You Upgrade to Next-Gen?

darthv721631d ago

Only 18% of devs are working on next gen games....? That seems really low. But maybe it lends some credibility to the notion that real next gen games dont show up until after the first year or two of a systems release.

LOGICWINS1631d ago

The PS3 didn’t really hit its stride until 2009 when Killzone 2 (one of my favorite games of all time) and Uncharted 2 came out.

I think Sony will attempt to buck this trend though. Spiderman 2 will be out by next year.

As far as the 18% figure.... realize that most devs aren’t creating AAA games. Most devs are better off developing for current gen since thats where the money is.

nirwanda1630d ago

Most devs are making mobile phone games, small teams with a quick turnaround and low costs.

1Victor1630d ago

@The PS3 didn’t really hit its stride until 2009 when Killzone 2 (one of my favorite games of all time) and Uncharted 2 came out.”
Really because I and a lot of people remember a little game called Warhawk that was exclusive day one and have a huge community that was playing it for years after it was released and even after the sequel Starhawk was released so please stop commenting like you for a fact or you was playing PlayStation 3 games

LOGICWINS1630d ago

@1Victor Did I offend you?

1Victor1629d ago

No no offense it’s just that you was talking like a PS expert and it’s clearly by your comments history that you are far from it and will say anything to make your point look truthful even using lies like this
“The PS3 didn’t really hit its stride until 2009 when Killzone 2 (one of my favorite games of all time) and Uncharted 2 came out“

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Obscure_Observer1631d ago (Edited 1631d ago )

@darthv72

"Only 18% of devs are working on next gen games....? That seems really low. But maybe it lends some credibility to the notion that real next gen games dont show up until after the first year or two of a systems release."

Exactly! I rather wait one year or so to play true next gen games rather than be mislead into buying a current gen games "dressed" as a true next gen games only playable on next gen system.

If Sony´s "PS5 Only" marketing is anything to go by, I´m expecting PS5´s launch games lineup to blow up all SX´s "current gen games" launch lineup out of water.

The truth will be revealed soon. ;)

MasterCornholio1631d ago (Edited 1631d ago )

"Exactly! I rather wait one year or so to play true next gen games rather than be mislead into buying a current gen games "dressed" as a true next gen games only playable on next gen system."

Who says true next gen games can't be available at launch or even close to launch?

https://secure.i.telegraph....
https://assets.vg247.com/cu...

https://c5.staticflickr.com...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/p_nB...

LOGICWINS1631d ago

@MasterCornholio Shadowfall looked pretty...but it was a mediocre game that was obviously rushed. This coming from a HUGE Killzone fan. Infamous Second Son on the other hand was excellent! To this day the facial animations in that game impress me.

If Im dropping $499 for a PS5 at launch, I want Horizon 2 with little to no load times and photo realistic graphics. Sony typically has abysmal launch lineups but I’ve always bought Playstations at launch regardless because I know the games will come later. Going forward, they need to earn my money at launch. SHOW me on DAY ONE what the PS5 can do!

Obscure_Observer1631d ago

@MasterCornholio

"Who says true next gen games can't be available at launch or even close to launch?"

Nobody said it can´t. It always has been done since forever. What I´m questioning is: Will be the diference between PS5 and SX´s first party launch games lineup night and day as the examples you posted showing the generationl leap between PS3 and PS4 games?

According to some people:

SX´s first party launch games will be like:
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/p_nB...

PS5´s first party launch games will be like:
https://c5.staticflickr.com...

Like I said, truth will be revealed soon enough. ;)

MasterCornholio1630d ago (Edited 1630d ago )

@Logic

"Shadowfall looked pretty."

That was my point. It is possible to have games at launch that look alot better than previous gen games. But I do understand that overtime developers will maximize the visuals in their games and they will look alot better towards the end of a generation than the beginning. A good example of this are games like Gears 5 and God of War compared to launch titles for the PS4 and the Xbox One.

I'm expecting to see next gen looking games at launch or during the launch window of these systems. It would be stupid for any console manufacturer not to provide next gen looking games at the launch of a console. You really need some really pretty games at launch to show people how much more powerful the new systems are.

This is something that has happened at the beginning of each generation so I expect the same with the new generation of consoles.

MasterCornholio1630d ago

@Obscure

"According to some people:"

Well that's according to you because you believe that Infamous is a title on Xbox. If you didn't know Infamous is a franchise produced by Suckerpunch which is a developer that's owned by Sony.

Anyways like I said to LogicWins there will be launch titles that will look next gen when compared to games from the previous generation. Which is why I was comparing Infamous and Killzone to previous titles because they were launch window games.

Oh and next time do your research. It really isn't that difficult to do.

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rainslacker1630d ago (Edited 1630d ago )

I think map sizes were probably the big change in generations from PS3->PS4. The limited memory on the prior gen made it so concessions would have to be made to how the maps were handled, as opposed to being more fluid like you saw in earlier games of the generation, and throughout. Other things like particle effects, or how many objects on screen were a good jump, but the core game design involving game play was probably possible on last gen consoles. I'd say that's fairly true for a good portion of games this gen, just there was more complexity to design as time went on.

I'm not sure memory would be such an issue for next gen games in terms of map size. So, I think the big changes we'll see early are going to be games which take advantage of the new ways to handle memory through SSD. Of course, graphics will improve, but that's a given.

Getting hung up on the pedantic, "What could possibly come early in the gen" seems rather moot until you have something to discuss about if it's something that can only be done on next gen. I feel with the current climate, chances are, Sony is going to explain what these games are doing that makes it so they can't run on next gen. At that point, then it's probably OK to discuss if that's true, or if Sony is just making something up.

Obscure_Observer1630d ago

@MasterCornholio

Lol. I don´t need to do any research. I was talking about the difference some people are expecting to see between SX and PS5, and used your Infamous images from PS3 and PS4 only to highligh those differences.

There´s a clear generational leap between Infamous 2 and Second Son. And generational leap is what some people are expecting from PS5 launch games compared to SX launch games.

Got it?

1Victor1630d ago

@logic and all the other half score Xbox fans I have a question why do you want Sony to show you what they got day one you aren’t going to buy a PS5 shouldn’t you be asking Microsoft to show you a reason to buy their new system day one instead of making excuses about true next gen start a year or two after the system release

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Mithan1630d ago

Most games will be cross-generation to start with, probably for a couple years anyways and with 3rd party developers. The PS4 has an installed base of 100 million or so now, with another 50 million or so on the Xbox, it isn't like they are going to abandon that huge user base, especially with how expensive it is to make new games these days.

xX-oldboy-Xx1630d ago

You're correct - cross gen games are the domain of 3rd party devs - NOT - console manufacturers. They have to give a legitimate reason to upgrade.

If HALO was a series x exclusive and turns out to be an amazing game - you've got yourself sold out console everywhere.

This is a no brainer.

Mithan1628d ago

Halo isn't relevant anymore as a system seller. Those days are gone.

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FTC Calls Xbox Game Pass Price Hike 'Exactly The Sort Of Consumer Harm' It Tried To Stop

Despite losing its lawsuit seeking an injunction to freeze Microsoft’s purchase of Activision Blizzard in July 2023, the FTC appealed the decision with the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit. While it awaits a final decision from those justices, the FTC’s been filing additional evidence to support its claims that the merger would hurt competition in gaming and hurt customers, including a letter from earlier this year after Microsoft laid off nearly 2,000 employees across the newly acquired teams.

lelo2play1d 9h ago

FTC never heard of inflation. Did they expect Gampass to remain the same price forever?
Would be funny if Gampass remained at 10€ fifty years from now...

Einhander19721d 9h ago

"Microsoft insists Game Pass prices ‘will not increase as a result of Activision merger"
https://www.videogameschron...

"It says a price rise “would be counter-productive as it would increase subscriber churn rates”

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lelo2play1d 1h ago (Edited 1d 1h ago )

"Game Pass prices will not increase as a result of the Merger"

Gamepass wouldn't increase in result of the merger... but it doesn't mean it wouldn't increase due to other reasons, like inflation, extra expenses, etc. Do you expect Gamepass to remain the same price forever?

All other online services have been increasing prices.

boing120h ago

I cancelled my Ultimate sub after the announcement, so they were right. And yet, they still did it. That is so MS.

Einhander197220h ago

Inflation is down since they made that statement.

They also call into question the 2000+ people Microsoft has fired from the developers they bought.

And again, this is contradictory to what Microsoft said they would do.

They lied in court.

Reaper22_12h ago

Lol...they never said gamepass wouldn't increase and they never said it would because of the merger. And even they did it's their right to do so. So what's your point?

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Inverno1d 8h ago

So we blaming this on inflation now? Lol ok

lelo2play1d 1h ago (Edited 1d 1h ago )

Sony and other streaming services (Netflix, HBO, ...) have been increasing prices and altering their services. Do you expect Gamepass to remain the same price forever?
Others can increase prices and alter their services, but Microsoft can't?

Hypocrite much!

DarXyde20h ago

Absolutely.

Ego inflation.