If this latest look at DOOM Eternal is any indication, we should be getting a DOOM Eternal Battle Pass available at launch.
Be careful ID Software...your Bethesda is showing...
Bethesda? All they've done is exploit gullible people who actually wanted an atmospheric game like Fallout in co-op lmao. They've done nothing wrong so far to people with standards. Which is fine.
Quake Champions already has a battlepass, doesn't surprise me at all this is what happens to most companies designers and engineers, get replaced by corporate people who don't know anything of how the product is made only about how they spend as little as poss to make as much as possible. EA and Activision have been like this for years, Bethesda has made Zenimax take more control over bethesda at developer level. This is also true for electrical products these days, most electrical companies where started by engineers same with software development. Once they become so big they hire more management who eventually take over failure rates dramatically increase.
Honestly, if it's just superficial gun and outfit skins and there's no competitive advantage, then I couldn't care less. It's pay to WIN I have a problem with.
You sound well trained.
In another post I said I didn't like the last game so would probably not like this one. Well, more reason not to like and it's not even out yet.
Unless the game is a free to play game, battle passes shouldn't exist. It should just be part of the game that people paid full price for.
Yeah but it works. Modem Warfare is doing it and I assume they're making a ton of it. Once gamers get tired of this, publishers will move on to the next thing again. At least these Battle Passes are cosmetics only.
exactly. battle pass microstransaction crap is rigged!
Thankfully, I'm only interested in campaign mode.
Don't know if it's in the battle pass but I read Doom Eternal is getting two single player dlcs within it's first 12 months.
I'm not a fan of battle passes as I feel they ruin MP games. The battle pass kinda ruined Gears 5 for me personally (even though it's free). It's just too much of a grindfest. I shouldn't be surprised that DOOM Eternal has a battle pass considering the publisher is Bethesda. They always gotta have microtransactions and their games as a service.
I do like the free DLC though like maps and such, but they should tweak BP so they aren't as grindy.
Yeah don't get me wrong, I'm glad some things are free but I just hate that characters/skins can be so grindy. All MP maps should be free though. Last thing people want is a split community because someone doesn't own some maps. As you said though, they need to either tweak the battle passes or simply get rid of them.
Yeah, really eye opening to see how bad MP and MP progression has gitten in games when you go back and play older titles. Been playing Bad Company 2 and it's night and day, forgot that unlocking new weapons and gear can actually be fun instead of a mind numbing grind
I have no issue as long as the games free. I bought the APEX battlepass once and I always make enough in the battle pass to get the next one free. So I basically paid $10 for the game. That’s when I have no issue. Free game, why not drop a couple bucks if you play it a lot. When it’s a $90 (Canada after taxes) THEN they ask for more is when I say nope.
What's so funny is the year before Bethesda went crazy after MT they made fun of others during their conference
Progress systems in online gaming is here to stay
I agree as well that MP maps should always be free. It's amazing how long it has taken some companies to realize this. The ones that actually do have them for free anyway
That kind of kills my excitement a little bit.
Hopefully I'm not greeted by a massive update just to play the campaign.
THERE IT IS!!! I knew Bethesda couldn't just leave it be.
Yeah that's a yikes... Tbf I'm only interested in the campaign tho
The nonsense finally came to DOOM, but it was only ever a question of when.
Eh... I'm really only playing the campaign anyway
The sad thing, is to the average consumer this wont matter much... which is what they are banking off.
Only interested in single player campaign
"UGH" - Doomguy
I bloody knew it. When I saw " In game purchases" on the pre-order page I had my suspicions that Bethesda were going to monetise this game. I have totally lost faith in Bethesda. This will be a first for a Doom game. Thankfully I'm more interested in the campaign than the multi-player but this is still really disappointing news. I'm going to avoid this at launch. I'll wait till the price comes down and make sure Bethesda doesn't get the full price out of me. This will be a first for me. I've always bought Doom as soon as I could get my hands on a Doom game (I totally love the series). I'm really really worried about Elder Scrolls 6 now. Thankfully I know I can count on Cd Projekt Red. They never do anything anti consumer.
Because i'm a dumbass, could somebody please tell me what exactly a Battle pass actually is? I've played in games that have them i.e. COD but have noticed no changes in the game whilst playing to know what it actually is or does!
Battle pass is like a level up system but in the form of microtransactions, less scummy than loot boxes, but scummy nonetheless
Thank you, that's why iv'e never noticed any difference, coz iv'e never brought one in the 1st place lol. Thanks for the clarification ohReginald.
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Battle Passes are in Paladins which I play and makes sense since the game is free. I have no desire to play any multiplayer in Doom Eternal only there to play the single player portion. I would torrent the game but I love ID and support them, Bethesda not so much. If this game was developed and published by Bethesda, I would torrent it.
It is developed and published by Bethesda. ID software are a part of Bethesda. Bethesda bought the studio years ago. I don't think any of the original studio is left. All the developers, John Carmack, John Romero etc left years ago.
I don't even know what the hell battle pass is
Lol, neither did I till this afternoon and thanks to OhReginald above.... "Battle pass is like a level up system but in the form of microtransactions, less scummy than loot boxes, but scummy nonetheless" I Wikipedia'd it afterwards too. I'm more of a campaign player than the multiplayer which is why I've never looked it up till now.
And here I was pretty stoked for an interesting multiplayer design... now it's going to have XP bars hammered into it to slowly crawl through boring cosmetic unlocks like "Pink Doom Slayer" and "Gunmetal Revenant"
Boycott that crap.
I hope lots of people buy this game but do not buy the pass nonsense.
Just as i feared and probably alot of people predicted.
Enlighten me on this Battle Pass system, would this affect my campaign playthrough or provide me with certain advantage by giving me certain items etc? I'm not into Multiplayer modes, will solely be playing this on solo.
Battle passes in a full price game .....SMH. I miss the days when we got a complete , finished game for the money we pay.
Sigh, this slightly hurts my hype for the game. Though I mostly want it to play the single player campaign, I was interested in dabbling in the MP as well. And I already wasn't fond of supporting Bethesda. With all the other games coming out soon, I might put this one off till black Friday. Decisions decisions..
IT seems Bethesda hasn’t learnt a thing yet despite its reputation goin to hell.
Isn't this supposed to be some sort of return to Dooms glory or or are we doomed to see no glory?
Most people going to play the sp of this, so why bother with a BP.
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