The latest GDC survey suggests game developers are far more interested in Sony's PlayStation 5 than Xbox Series X (38% vs 25%). The PS5 even narrowly beat interest in the popular Nintendo Switch.
This stuff is super interesting
grabs popcorn /s
Honestly, if PS5 is less powerful, I'll wait for a PS5 Pro. I have PS4 Pro and a 1080p tv, so I'll be fine till when that happens in a couple years.
Eh, there's a few factors here. 1. Interest in Switch has died down since it's fully integrated and it's become so heavily used for Indies of all types. It's still a focus, but not really an "interest". 2. New hardware is always more interesting for potential. 3. PS5 is an easy one since people would expect the largest market share initially and they want to get in early if possible, before it becomes like current generation and Switch, where there's just so many options and it's easy for your game to get overlooked.
I disagree when ps5 only best switch by 1 percent it just meant people still have a brand loyalty to it
You think Indie developers are brand loyal to just PS when Indie game exclusives have drastically seen a decrease on PS4 this generation while many of them have ported to Switch?
"PC remains king, though, with 50% of the preferences." there are multiple reasons why for that. the major reason for that, is that it doesn't cost practically anything to deploy games on it. so that boosts indie game development. and the last reason, is the types of gamers that have "console + pc" gaming setups. so there is quite a few reasons why PC makes up for a huge marketing number in gaming.
"PC remains king, though, with 50% of the preferences." It's amazing the support the PC gets from developers.
It's by far the easiest to develop for because of higher level API's, and tends to have the fewest barriers for entry since you can self publish on any number of store fronts. Consoles you still need dev kits, which can sometimes be cost prohibitive. Plus, there are more game engine options which don't cost an arm and a leg to make your game on with PC development.
why - EVERYONE has a pc - they're not stupid - that's a big market to sell to. i game primarily on ps4 but i still play some pc-only games.
Out of curiosity, how much does a console dev kit cost?
Why was it that they prefer PCs more than pS5 left out of the title?
Not really as that is simply where games development starts. So obviously the framework for PC build is inherent.
If PC is the bigger market then why are PS4 exclusive games outselling everything on PC? End thread
I think the biggest reason devs are excited about PS5 more than any other platform is because it is the ONLY platform that has a next-gen BASELINE for developers. Xbox Series X games need to work on Xbox One, One S and One X. Switch Pro is probably around Xbox One S level when it comes out. PS5 has a minimum requirement again for devs just like PS4 games had to be 1080p to pass Quality Assurance testing and get a green light to be launched on the platform. Maybe that's 4K resolution, who knows, but it will be a mandatory step up in resolution, frame-rate or overall audio visual fidelity to raise the bar. Plus PS5 has BC for PS4, and online BC through PS Now resulting in world's biggest gaming library on one platform. (However, there still won't probably be BC for all PS games, so you'd still need an original fat PS3 to play all PS1/PS2/PS3 games for 100% compatibility, because of licensing issues and what not.) This means more sales for PS5, which makes Devs excited in turn to produce games for it. Looking at the data it makes sense Devs are excited most about PS5.
Regarding what you said about BC for PS5, I heard that PS5 could potentially (possibly just a rumor I saw, not sure) have BC from PS1 through 4 BC on the PS5 Console. Am I wrong, or is that just a rumor?
@GrubsterBeater (Please bear with me, this is by no means an attack, I'm just thinking aloud.) How exactly would you have BC for PS1, PS2 and PS3 games that have licensing issues? What if a game IP holding companies have gone bankrupt and nobody ever bought the rights? Or if there are local Japanese laws licensing issues in regards to the music of said game? How on earth do you put those games on PS5, even if it did emulate the games? The only way is to make it read the original discs, and you'd need to find those said games in mint condition. On top of that you need flawless software emulator for PS1, PS2 and PS3. Now, they all have very different architecture and specs that are rather exotic, it costs a lot of money with almost close to zero ROI. So they would basically guess that people would buy a PS5 for PS1, PS2 and PS3 BC, whereas data says that most probably would buy PS5 for PS4 BC. Plus, the only real way to do real 100% BC is actually having the physical PS1, PS2 and PS3 and PS4 chips in PS5, just like the original PS3 had PS1 and PS2 hardware to ensure backwards compatibility. Again, why would they do it when they already have a software service called PS Now which is extremely profitable and expanding its catalogue? Taking all this into account, I'm really really skeptical about all the PS1-PS4 BC stuff.
cool article, yeah not really surprised
Indeed, we SHOULD NOT BE surprised because we can't expect anything less from Sony. Sony settled the bar way too high that right now such quality became the standard. It's not surprising to see an epic success of the PS5. Who here expects any less when their career where spectacular with the PS4?
Set the bar way too high? Are you forgetting they sold you a promise with ps4 pro? The "4k console" that doesn't actually have 4k capability? Yikes.
Can't wait for the PS5
No one can't. I'm deeply anxious to know how these guys are going to surprise us.
Double negative. My brain is going in circles.
I can't............. Wait ...... For both
@RangerWalk267 Imagine, getting downvotes for being an actual gamer xD
As much as I like Xbox, gotta admit the hype before new PlayStation consoles is always crazy. Can’t wait to see what so y has up their sleeves.
More are interested in PC development than any console. PC 50% PS5 38% Switch 37% Xbox Project Scarlett 25%
yeah that disparity was quite interesting. 50%.
So that has a discrepancy of 50%. I understand PS5 accounts 38%, Switch accounts for 37%, which is 75%, adding Xbox's 25% into the equation equals 100%. My question is how does PC fit into that percentage!?
Multiple platforms could be selected in the survey. And there are a lot more platforms listed in the survey than just those four. The fact that the percentage for Xbox, Switch, and PS5 add up to 100% is coincidental. Here is the actual question asked in the survey: "Which platform(s) most interest you as a developer right now? (Choose all that apply)" @Monkeysmoke "You are taking him seriously? like seriously?" Not sure who you are referring to here. Those numbers are from the article so...
You are taking him seriously? like seriously?
New maths 😂
awww! pc player feels left out. it must get lonely sometimes eh? :(
Quite the opposite. I'm happy PC is getting so much love. You seem to be the one who is upset.
Huh? Lonely? The PC gets more games than any other platform. And the reason it gets that much support is because there are so many people buying PC games, which generates higher games revenue for the PC than any other platform. So, it's the exact opposite of "lonely" on the PC. There are so many games and so many people playing on PC. It's positively thriving. "PC remains king, though, with 50% of the preferences." -From the article.
@RazzerRedux: you know what? you're right. I am upset. I am up set because i have to wait a few more months to play The Last Of Us 2, Ghost Of Tsusima, and FF 7 Remake. why are you crying? no friends?
Happy as a lark, but thanks for the concern. I'm definitely looking forward to firing up my PS4 Pro to play TLOU2, GoT, and FF7:R as well. Those are going to be some awesome games. A bit of a last hurrah for PS4, but it will be great.
@RazzerRedux: well, they do have the best exclusives. I pc game but my hardware needs an upgrade for sure.
@sampsonon No doubt bro. I love my PC gaming, but I have to have a PlayStation for the exclusives. What makes PlayStation different is you just can't find what PlayStation offers anywhere else.
Lots of Indies at GDC. Developing for PC is always at the forefront because of its lower entry cost and ease of development in comparison.
Yeah click bait title to rule up the pundits.
Even last year ,same in 2018 etc "GDC 2019 PC remains the best platform as the majority of developers are interested/making games for it" games like Witchfire / bloody spell ,and many others release on pc first before any other platforms even lost souls aside was being developed for PC before Sony got involved.
Yeah, the pc market really has risen from the ashes. Many would have been led to believe it was a dying breed. The thing that sucks, whether us console gamers like to admit it or not, consoles hold back pc's progress. I fully expect with the entry of next gen to reignite the pc crowd. I just wish they didnt charge so damn much for just a graphics card, when for the asking price one could get a ps5 or xbsx and a handful of games for less than 1 component of a pc...
Thanks for the reply. It was a serious question. I just missed the part about having more than 1 choice.
@stuna1 No worries bro @fatbastard11 Have your feelings been hurt or?
has your ego been stroked or?
It's good to see that number shooting up placing of as the primary focus is what gave us crysis.
I mean, look at steam, it has an infinite supply of obscure indies. Presumably it's more cost efficient for low budget games to get on PC. Nothing wrong with that, but I think indie and low budget game developers will obviously prioritize PC. Obviously many multiplats go for PC these days too, but there ain't many AAA exclusives on PC anymore, unfortunately.
Why is the article title this way 🤔
Right but they just want to develop new mahjong games, and ways to check your email. That's what PCs are for. Grandma's emails and doing your taxes.
Ps5 will lead the charge in... Exclusives Software Sales Hardware Sales Exclusive 3rd partys Exclusive Marketing Rights/Marketing Indies Hype/Momentum VR Pre Orders Buying of devs that send shockwaves annd media bias Deal with it
Make sure you write AAA exclusives Because switch already have more exclusive games than the entire ps4 game library it got little games that PS4 do not get
"Because switch already have more exclusive games than the entire ps4 game library it got little games that PS4 do not get" If thats the case, lets just call the 100s of 3rd partys that the ps4/xb1 recieved that never came to the switch... exclusive ps4/xb1 3rd partys. I get you love Nintendo but damn dude. 😂. What about all those "little games" that the switch never got? Those games massively outnumber all the exclusives AND "little games" the switch has by a large margin... js
Most of those exclusives imo are uninteresting otherwise I would own a Switch.
Is that so? As of right now, Switch has a total of 5000 games listed on GameFaqs. PS4 has 6900. Give or take 100 for each. Now, I'm no mathematician, although I have degrees in various math sciences, but I'm not sure how you can get more exclusives on Switch than PS4 has total games when they don't even have a total number of games on Switch as PS4 has. even if you took out repeats from PS4 Gamefaqs listings, it's not going to add up to 1900 games, because Switch has plenty of those too....like about 50-100 entries just for their retro console thing they do. Well....I do actually, because you're just pulling numbers out of nowhere hoping someone will believe it. Maybe switch has more exclusives than PS4, but since clarity of the metric being used here seems important to your comment, I will base my comments on your standard. If you're going to make something up, don't make up something that takes less than 1 minute to look up.
https://www.gematsu.com/exc... https://www.gematsu.com/exc... Here’s a list and look at full exclusive list for a system that came late it have a lot First link is Sony and second link Nintendo I never said any of the games have to be interesting just saying exclusives is an exclusive less than A to AAA it still shows up as an exclusive
It's not s positive if you only have exclusives because no one else want to make exclusives for your system
You said it had more exclusives games than the entire PS4 library. The entire PS4 library is 6900 games, give or take. If Switch doesn't have a total number of games that doesn't exceeds current number of games, how can it possibly have more exclusives than total number of PS4 games. Plus, I wouldn't use any selective list from any website to get your numbers. There are hundreds if not over a thousand of those small indie games on the PS4 store. I know Nintendo has a lot of those small games, but they aren't all exclusive, and those lists from that site are far from complete.
So you choose to be ignorant? Lol... you aren't helping your case, you just look even more foolish. Which is why no one takes you seriously... but i believe youre just trolling for attention like in every article i see you in. Every day, there's 3rd party games that skip the switch. So even if switch gets a game here or there that only are on switch, it will never amount to the 3rd partys that never came. In 9 months, when the others launch, that will eat into switches sales. It will be the new kid on the block everyone wants, you know like how the switch was launching years after everyone else. The switch is at its peak now and is halfway through its lifecycle. Most people that wanted a switch... have 2. "9th gen started with Switch, than Stadia" Lets talk about that, a 9th gen console that cant even run the most taxing 8th gen games? Thats a joke... furthermore, why would you want to. What happens when 9th gen kicks off for playstation and xb? Those games def arent running on a nintendo unless they drastically update their hardware or do some serious gimping... 9th gen 😂 If it was strictly a home console... id agree with you... but nintendo shit the bed on home consoles (wiiu) so they decided to make a handheld that connected to the tv and call it a hybrid lol. Get real. How come all of the functionality and hardware that runs the thing... is in the handheld portion? Hmmm. And for that case... it could never be as powerful. Its a handheld. A pretty powerful handheld at that.
It don’t matter if the 3rd party game miss the switch as long as its on Xbox or pc it’s not an exclusive for Sony so yes even with ps4 having a ton of games those games either on Xbox also or pc which make it easy for Nintendo to have more exclusives So Still doesn’t affect Nintendo having more exclusives even if u don’t like them Say what you want about the switch it’s label as a console so when sales are announced Nintendo and NPD and Mediacreate only compare it to past Nintendo consoles not handhelds Wii U an 8th gen console did not have power that PS4 and Xbox one had so I do not understand your point Have you not learn from 7th gen with Wii being weaker than Xbox 360 and PS3 Generation do not depend on power it depends on being a new system that is not backwards compatible for example switch games can not be played on Wii U.......ps5 only games can’t be played on PS4 and ps4 pro
Yup and generations no longer mean the same thing as they used to. Just like your handheld cant run taxing 8th gen games even tho its a 9th gen console. Wheres ff7 remake? Re3 remake? Ff7 remake? Or anything 3rd party comming out this year thats AAA?? Its effectively a handheld. Just like it wont be able to play 9th gen sony xb games. Id agree however its a 9th gen nintendo machine. But the lines are blurred when comparing it to others... thats why gens no matter mean anything.
I agree switch will not get those remakes, but it do not need them also, if switch had every game then it would not make sense for me to own a switch and ps4 I would just have a switch only Switch will get stuff that make the system unique and that’s a good thing so you can still get a Sony or Microsoft system and get the best of both world All those remakes also coming for Xbox so they not really exclusive for Sony they are timed exclusive I’m still waiting for all of final fantasy 7 remake to finish before I jump in, I want the package with all the parts in it instead of buying one part at a time Switch already have games coming that are also on ps5 that are announced early already so switch won’t miss a lot of games it will still get games it will just be like how it is now with some games coming to switch and some don’t
Of course!! Sony PS5 will lead next gen.
Its going to be so good. I cant hardly wait. Ill prob keep my pro but trade in my mini me towards the 5... i have that and about 400 saved. So as soon as preorders go live... take my moneys!
There you go!!
Google stadia (19%) beating xbox one X, pro project xcloud and psnow. Oh dear Edit: 27% vr headsets 😊
Good stuff. Getting more hyped all the time for the new system. February reveal is getting close
Not surprising at all. Sony is offering devs a powerful system with a loyal, well-established userbase. Microsoft is pretty iffy after this last gen, with many MS fans jumping ship to Sony at the beginning of this gen and staying there, and Nintendo simply doesn't have the powerful hardware.
Wonder what the sample size is? also important to note this is interest "as a developer" not a consumer, which leads me to believe the yet to be announced "Bigger Differences between PS5 and PS4" Jim Ryan mentioned may be something more beneficial on the development side of things, something that it seems may be unique to PS5 vs the competition. Or maybe i'm just reading too much into it who knows.
106+ million ps4 owners 45+ million Nintendo Switch owners 42+ million xb1 owners My guess at launch of 9th gen it could be 115+ Sony 55+ Nintendo 45+ MS These numbers matter to developers Sure, were talking devs here... but what does it matter to the gamers? How hype are they? The ones buying the software and hardware... one could form the opinion how the devs feel is a direct correlation to how the gamers are feeling in the most impt thing to shareholders... sales! Theres a reason Nintendo and Sony are hitting it out of the park. Isarai: 👇 Im simply stating since we dont know the sample size, this is the best evidence we got since of course there are so many ps4 owners ww these #s make sense. The internets caught fire after a PS5 logo... that should tell you a lot and the damned thing hasnt even been shown. How are these sample sizes going to look after Feb? Drastically different