Alex S. from Link-Cable writes: "...while we could could go on and on about the decision to attend or not and whether it was the right decision to make, I want to take a moment to acknowledge the real losers in all of this – us the gamers"
That’s interesting, you really should speak for yourself.
Fake media trying to be objective, nothing else.. Well yes, I wish they didn't have to skip cause I've been loving their last shows, but they know they have to be everywhere this year to promote the new console and games now that they're skipping a major gaming come together...
Just more evidence that Sony doesn't want to be a part of the wider gaming community. They want their walled garden and they hope they can get you stuck in it, otherwise they couldn't care less about gaming as a whole. It shouldn't be surprising, I guess. Sony has always been about stupid proprietary standards, arbitrary exclusivity and walled gardens. Having their own gaming event separate from the rest of the industry is just more of the same kind of behavior.
You're proving their point. Sony doesnt need E3 but gamers want it.
Ah please... They don't go to E3 and now they don't care about gaming? what's the next narrative ? Blizzard has been doing their own show since forever and R* doesn't even go there, so they must not care about gaming either. Just beat it already. They don't want to go there and do their own thing or attend to other events like they said. That's all!
The only thing "bad for gamers" is if they do not release great games year after year, not if they attend or not one out of multiple events in one year. If they do their own event, which I'm very sure they will, I do not see what we are missing.
agreed. i don't feel bad.........i'm excited for this year of playstation - FF7 remake; LoU2; GoT plus 3rd party games dying light2 and doom eternal - i'm playing all of them! THEN, there is ps5 launch this fall and sony has guaranteed NEW EXCLUSIVES for the NEW CONSOLE - it's like christmas all year!
Not attending E3 once is forgivable. But twice is unforgivable. Sony is a fail.
@Kreate "Sony is a fail." Lol, I guess everybody is entitled to their own opinion.
@Rpg I dont watch 'other events'. I only watch E3. I dont follow gaming the way I use to. So Sony not attending E3 for 2 years annoys me. I am happy for u since u are ok w it. I'm just saying I am not happy. That is all.
@Kreate Seems like you can skip E3 yourself then...
@kreate lol there's like only 2-3 other events per year with ~1 hour duration, you're talking as if they take weeks of dedication to watch or something
Now I'm just baffled at the fanboys. Yea I guess E3 doesn't matter at all and everyone is just over-reacting. I mean Sony's last few E3 shows sucked already and now they stop attending E3 entirely. How is that in any way good for US gamers? E3 is the biggest event for gamers for the year. By not attending is either Sony is: -stupid -dont care -arrogant -taking 2 years off from work -Xbox is a epic fail and everyone knows it so Sony not really trying Pick ur reason.
You're gonna tell me you're not gonna miss watching the shows back to back? Or the "Who won E3" discussions? Its not "bad for gamers" but it sure as hell sucks.
We all should be boycotting E3 anyway with the changes the ESA are putting forward.
@mrmikew2018 How Sony skipping E3 is good for gamers?
They can attend more shows worldwide obviously and no free press for the competition. So how is it bad.
It's just a Venue you clown sony never said they won't have a conference they just said they won't be at E3 and nobody cares where sony has a conference we just care that they have one 🙄 buttttttt I digress. so tell me how is it bad for gamers again?
@Atticus_finch "They can attend more shows worldwide obviously and no free press for the competition" Yeah, like they did last year by skipping E3, Paris, TGS, Gamescom press conferences not to mention PSX. Easily said than done.
How is it bad for gamers. 99% of gamers go to E3. No. So for us common folk we’ll watch it get announced via twitter/YouTube from anywhere in the world not at E3 ok their set dates for a price that ain’t cheap. Sony can now announce anything they want when they want don’t have to wait for e3 we’ll find out more by March. End of March once financial years out of the way ps5 gonna be getting a lot of info hype games and something actually next gen. if Sony said we’re skipping E3 as were not releasing any games this year or next and we’re gonna release a next gen console with no next generation exclusive games then I’d be worried.
@RosweeSon For most of my gaming life E3 has been the major gaming event of the year. It was always exciting and nice to see all the game announcements in one place, as well as all the personalities and other aspects of gaming culture. Random announcements throughout the year aren't the same thing. Not as exciting and I will probably miss many of them when done that way.
How is it bad for gamers? That's the topic of the article. What possible loss are we as gamers having from Sony not attending? Did them not attending last year take anything away from us? I mean really....what did we lose? Hell, we even got to be able to pit Sony against MS to say who won, because that still happened. That's about the only thing that comes from E3 that is different than a press release or any number of other shows they may have done. E3 is an exciting time. The conferences are what made it exciting. But, it's the content of those conferences that was exciting, not E3 itself. Whether I get the information from an E3 conference, a press release, a video uploaded to YouTube, or some interview, it doesn't change the excitement of what I hear or see. About all I lose is the excitement leading up to being able to watch all this stuff at once during what is an exciting time where news actually comes in rapid succession. Since other publishers are still doing conferences, there is still exciting stuff for E3 to make it worth watching. And if hypothetically, every publisher decided to abandon E3, would it be bad for gamers? If so, then gamers are fragile creatures who rely more on hype, than information.
I think we'll all be fine; it's not as if Sony aren't going to show us anything. They also have some heavy hitters releasing this year. They can surely afford not to be at E3 at this point.
It's not about them(sony) its about us core gamers. They don't need E3 as a business but Anyone who calls himself a gamer WANTS sony at E3, whether you're Xbox, Playstation or a Nintendo fan. It's the biggest celebration of videogames. I understand skipping it once because you got nothing to show but skipping two years in a row is a slap in the face of gamers.
Sony skipping E3 means I can't play PS4 games. Means I can't possibly find out anything about what games may be coming for PS5. Means that any new info on PS5 will be unknown to me for eternity. Obviously, Sony not going to E3 is going to be the end of gaming as we know it, and our identity as gamers will be challenged, and our community will fall into disarray. Like all great nations, it's the corrupt power that ruins it for everyone, and soon, we'll be stuck with Xbox, because they are the only one's consumer friendly enough to talk about their products at a singular trade show. So long PlayStation Nation. All hail the new kings. The king is dead, long live King Spencer!!!! Or, I'll just read the same news, watch the same trailers, and get the same information through a different streaming method, or news outlet through a press release, and I'll still be able to consume the same inane opinion pieces about how Sony is screwing up and will fail miserably, because E3 isn't needed for any of that. I can see why Sony not attending E3 is bad for the gaming sites. Without Sony to give them their fodder to pit these companies against one another, to pit the readers against one another, to drive their own clicks, how can they possibly make any money? I think on the flip side making these sites work to actually make good news people want to read is going to be good for gamers. But I doubt these journalists will live up to the challenge.
This year is different with the impending release of the PS5. I don't have an issue with them skipping E3 provided they schedule a big event in NA to replace it. It's far by the biggest market for consoles and you better have a ton of publicity here. A bunch of Nintendo Directs and 4A.M. livestreams ain't gonna cut it. I'm neither a journalist nor a Phil Spencer mouthpiece but I will say there's something about a live stage reveal and the excitement that comes with it that connects us as a gaming community. Sony handled 2013 wonderfully. Jury's out on 2020.
SONY doesn't need E3 to sell consoles. It's not necessarily "bad for gamers" but E3 is a gaming tradition, it's like the superbowl for us. Everyone who says they're not gonna miss Sony at E3 or the "Who won E3" discussions is a liar. The same people who are here arguing for weeks after E3 is over are now saying E3 doesn't matter?
I don't know that you can go that far. In the long run, it's probably not going to have much impact. But unless you're completely anti-Sony, I don't know how you can say it's not disappointing. A lot of E3 is a mess, and there are a number of financial reasons why it doesn't make sense. That dosen't make it any less of a let down. Having that hype and excitement has always been a highlight of the year. When the screen goes dark and an unexpected trailer begins.... the crowd starts to go crazy. That's just good times all around. It's odd to think that just a few years ago, Sony was filling theaters across the country to watch this conference. Some of the all time best moments of E3 came from Sony's stage. It's just disappointing. ESA and E3 have a lot of issues, but I'd rather these guys work to make E3 better rather than just leaving it altogether.
It is disappointing indeed, but at the same time I don’t care especially if Sony has other shows and their own to show stuff. E3 has become a cringefest with and without Sony Anyways . Most of what has been show to us in recent years are disappointment and lies. Everything also gets leaked days prior. If Sony doesn’t want to go then they must have a really good reason.
True, but we still see cringe and disappointment in these other shows too. How many times do we see Inside Xbox, State of Play, or Directs get labeled as underwhelming and disappointing immediately after they air? Then people rightfully point out that these smaller shows aren't meant to be like the big shows. Well what happens when the big shows aren't there? Not sure about the "lies" you're referring to, but it's not like we're getting less CGI trailers and bull shots on these smaller streams and shows. Arguably, the best state of play announcement was TLOU2 release. Weeks later it got delayed. We get leaks before those small events too. All of these are definitely E3s biggest problems, but we're not seeing them being resolved by these other shows. These are things I wish they'd focus on fixing at E3 rather than walking away. Sony's reasoning is likely that it's cheaper and easier to control messaging through other means. It's a good reason, but it doesn't make it less disappointing. Hopefully the NY thing they're planning contains all of the same hype and excitement that we're used to.
E3 without Sony seems pointless. I can’t even get that mad the last time they were at the show, they showed 4 AAA exclusive gameplay footages and were widely panned by the media while its competitor mostly showed Multiplatform games and got heaps of praise. Sony is held to a higher standard.
They earned themselves that higher standard by delivering great shows. I don't think there's anything wrong in hoping for more of those. 2018 wasn't their best show, but it still wasn't their worst. Flute guy wasn't one of those special moments I was talking about, but it was at least memorable.
The only thing you will be missing out on is Sony exclusive game trailers. All 3rd party games will still be shown at E3, via the conferences
E3 was always that time of year when every company would get together and show off what they are working on. I get that the need for this has lessened thanks to other shows throughout the year plus companies doing their own announcements and such, but it was always a good time to gather together to see what was coming. While it's not the end of the world or anything, it's still disappointing to not see them there.
I don’t think any of that has changed. If it has, how does it? 99.9% of the world’s gamers don’t go to this conference. Heck neither you nor I will be there. Most watch streams online or watch the directs or state of play. We still get it through an online mechanism. This changes nothing for the vast majority of gamers. Anyone who says Sony is “anti-consumer” for not going is simply stirring up nonsense.
i'm not speaking for you - but i only tuned in to e3 to see what sony is doing. as long as they keep the gamers informed.....no matter what format they choose i'm happy.
well I own multiple hardware, so I liked to see what was going on in the gaming world as a whole. Plus sometimes 3rd party games would appear during one specific show (usually down to marketing or partnerships).
COD being the main culprit
E3 was the place to go for the big reveals and announcements. Times have changed now. A simple tweet from Sony/Microsoft/Nintendo reaches a far bigger audience than an E3 show does... Why should they bother with it anymore?
That's a lie and you should speak for yourself. Sony didn't attend E3 2019 and gamers keep buying their console and their games to the point that they crossed the 100m mark and had an amazing Christmas season in terms of sales. This year PS4 gamers have, at the end of the lifecycle, 3 of the best exclusive games of this generation... The Last of Us 2, Ghost of Tsushima and Dreams while Xbox has nothing memorable. So don't come here to spread that lies about this being "bad" for gamers.
The fanboyism is too much you just said 3 of the best exclusive games of this generation regarding 3 games that aren't even out yet. I own all platforms, PC, PS4 and Switch so I don't care for the fanboy nonsense. But this is just a whole new level of stupidity. Wait for these games to even come out before you start hailing them best thing since sliced bread.
100% agree. BUT, it's hard to deny he has a possibility of being right. TLoU2 is highly unlikely to disappoint. Ghost of Tsushima, for me at least, I am expecting to be near or as good as God of War. Which for me is currently crowned as Game of the Generation. And Dreams is just an incredible piece of technology that has already made some impressive pieces of software. So I guess I'll see.
@Spenok - what does any of that have to do with MS? Nobody is saying that people won't continue to support them. It just sucks not having them there. It's the biggest gaming convention out there, it was always great to get news from the Big 3 of what is ahead.
oh, here's the "i own all the platforms" guy who thinks his thinking is beyond reproach. i think anyone who throws that kind of money away to buy all formats and then has to buy games for each is either A - a moron. or B - a sad individual with no real life. having all formats doesn't make you any smarter or impartial. and btw - from the last 25 years of PS consoles, it's a pretty safe bet that LoU2 and GoT are going to be fantastic. it isn't "fanboyism" to expect sony to produce great games since that's all they've ever done. since you "own all platforms" - you should know this.
n4g at its finest lol
@nucky64, You wrote probably the dumbest comment I've ever read. IF you're a fan of gaming which I am you don't limit yourself to one platform and miss out on great games. I own all platforms so I can play any and all of the great games across these platforms. If you can't afford all platforms thats a YOU problem, some of us work hard and get to enjoy the spoils of our career. To say someone doesn't have a life cause they own all platforms is moronic itself. I'm a father and I have a enjoyable career to go along with it. I would never stoop to the low life level of fanboys who are loyal to a singular corporate company brand. When you should be a fan of Gaming in general regardless of brand/platform end of.
None of this has anything to do with why the writer is saying this is bad for gamers. Read the article next time.
nobody ever reads here, just comments based on headlines
Exactly, fuk E3 ms don't pay as they use their own conference centre across the street, Nintendo haven't paid for years, just more propoganda and lies from the media
Here we go, another "Sony is anti consumer" bs article. Sony not being at E3 doesn't hurt gamers one bit.
Sadly for them, Sony not being at E3 only hurts E3 convention lol.
Missing any big publisher would hurt E3. But it still sucks for gamers.
@Starchild How so? What would I see there that I couldn't see in their own direct streams?
Who cares? E3 is far bigger than Sony. 90% of developers and publishers are there every year.
You're right, it is bigger than just one company, but E3 isn't as great when one of them pulls out. I would feel the same if Microsoft were to pull out of the event.
Agreed, i wanted Sony to be there too, i just don't understand it. It is a fact that is the market leader right now but they used all previous E3s to demonstrate and promote their exclusives.The last two years however that's not the case. And i mean, you want to have your own events? That's fine. Xbox also have the X show. But show some respect to E3.
@Angainor "But show some respect to E3." What the hell does that even mean? Was E3 giving show room to Sony for free or something? Just because your nostalgia of E3 forces you to deify the event doesnt mean your illogical thought patterns apply to anyone else.
The conferences weren't even part of E3. They happened before E3 started. They just happened at that time because all the press was there, and it was a good place to give out information. The early conferences were nothing more than a bunch of press people in the convention hall's conference rooms. From there it grew into a spectacle, and over the years, it became expected. The conferences aren't really necessary today to get the information out there. E3 was good at providing the hype, but that hype became polluted with the console war, and the media itself pitting companies against one another, and making sure that 90% of any and all information presented at these conferences, and 99% of any and all stuff shown on the show floor, went under the radar. The press, and the community are at fault for lessening the need for E3, because when it cost millions to go to the show floor, and millions to have a conference, what's the point in spending that much, when you can do just as well giving an interview, or putting the same trailer up on YouTube for free?
It's bigger than Sony, but we'll get 20 articles a day about why it's bad for gamers.
@Silly gamerAr "It's bigger than Sony, but we'll get 20 articles a day about why it's bad for gamers." Because its a big deal!
@bluepets "how? there's more than ONE event in the freaking year. if anything, microsoft needs e3 the most." Yeah, and Sony skipped all major gaming events last year.
"Because it's a big deal" Yeah. It was a big deal last year too. Same articles happened last year. Same arguments about how it was going to be bad for Sony. Same talk about Sony being scared, or having nothing to show. So does Sony have nothing to show this year? Seriously, it's not a big deal. Sony did just fine without E3 last year. Hell, with hardly doing anything, they still took any thunder away MS had from their conference, and the entire conversation was about how Sony "won" without even showing up. What is such a big deal about Sony not attending E3? What are we losing? What will we not know if they don't show up? About the only thing that's lost is the chance to pit the quality of the conferences against one another, while we ignore or forget 9 out of 10 games that may have been shown. Sony has had some great moments at E3 which did help them. That can't be denied. But, is it likely they're going to be hurt because they don't have those random pithy moments? It would if they didn't try any other time in the year, but we know that's not going to be the case.
That's like saying the NBA is bigger than Lebron, they don't need him.
"90% of developers and publishers are there every year." Just FYI, this is false. Not even 25% of developers are there and *maybe* 50% of publishers are there in some capacity but not necessarily on the floor. You do realize how many developers and publishers there are out there? Thousands of developers and hundreds of publishers. I mean, let alone the biggest publishers, EA and Activision aren't there and more and more over the last 3 years have been pulling out. It's been filled then with many smaller, Indie-focused type of games. That's a good thing for them (and us, IMHO), but also tells you what the big publishers are doing when they start backing out of E3.
E3 is a sinking ship and Sony hopped on a lifeboat before anyone else noticed
The person who wrote this is a journalist first, not a gamer. They will get invited to presser events to see the stuff, gamers won't. 99.999% of gamers won't be seeing this stuff in person but will watch it online. No matter how Sony reveals their stuff, it will be primarily seen online, via gaming news sites like theirs (after they attend or get press releases on the items) and YouTube or similar video sites. This honestly doesn't change anything for "gamers" other than the venue. Edit: Just look at how we handle things here. Our lives don't change here just because Sony shows stuff during State of Plays than E3. We still get the news, it's still top news, only for Sony it's not right alongside tons of other news or clouded by constant rumor milling or big gaffes during E3 that people focus on over actual game news. I get the focus on E3 as a center point for gaming hype of a sort, but not having Sony at E3 doesn't suddenly mean we're not going to get the same news as before. It's just more spread out, which is honestly much better for gamers and REALLY good for the media who need more clicks during downtimes and now don't have to worry too much about creating content for clicks when the news is more spread out.
Yes I completely agree. If anything, Sony get to have a show on their terms and on their time. I think people need to save judgement until after Sony have had their big reveal event... maybe in Feb if rumours are to be believed.
I'm not sure why this is so hard for others to wrap their mind around. Alot of these guys complaining have never attended E3 in person ever yet they are offended by the news 🤣🤣 unbelievable!