Sony does not need to go to LA to get people excited for PS5.
It's been dying for years, and there are tons of other events including their own PSX and State of play. I like how when Nintendo did it it's "looking to the future" and "ushering in a new format for gaming events" but sony does it and suddenly it's bad news? People need to chill tf out.
Did you just forget that Nintendo had its fair share of "Nintendo is doomed" articles?
Those articles were more about the Wii U and their draconian ways rather than them abandoning E3. I remember when they decided that it was met with positive articles because how often Nintendo would get overshadowed by the other publishers who used to overhype they games to heavens, especially that time when the Wii u wasn’t doing too good. That, and the fact that fans won’t have to wait a year for game reveals which was a genius idea
@AspiringProGenji This conversation is about the responses to E3 attendance. Nintendo got criticism just for not having an on-stage conference. @isarai tried to suggest that Sony is being treated worse than Nintendo for the same thing and that's just flat out false in this instance. Just having a brief look at the comments on this site for some of those articles shows the striking difference in reactions for Nintendo and Sony from the users. Nintendo doesnt have an on-stage conference? Bad decision from Nintendo. Sony chooses not to be at E3 at all? E3 is dying. Lol.
I bet you Sony is doing this to save cost. An E3 booth is insanely expensive! Better to use that money on developing games I say. "Semiformal Studios secured a 600 square foot space on the E3 show floor this year, and it ended up spending $100,000 on the entire show. That figure may be shocking – because it's so low. "If we hadn't second-guessed everything, worked really hard, and gotten clever it would have been about $300,000 - $500,000, but the necessity to put on a good show and the lack of funds forced us to think cleverly and work hard to make it happen on the cheap," https://www.engadget.com/20... Now just imagine what it's costing ms and Sony.
I've been to e3 as a journalist 3 different times, 2006, 2007, and 2009. Each time it was obvious that by only allowing journalists in, it was basically a multi-million dollar opportunity to interview people and put on a hugely expensive press conference event in a place where renting venues is not cheap. Why bother when interviews can be conducted over the phone, internet, skype, etc... and you can throw your own pressers on your own time at the venue and production team of your choosing (thus saving up to millions in production and venue rental costs)? The ends don't really justify the means when you look at it from their angle. Back in the early days of E3, most people got their gaming news from EGM, GamePro, Game Informer, etc. Events like E3 were necessary to get the news out then. In this modern age, the internet replaces much of that need. Nintendo caught on early and started doing Nintendo Direct, now Sony is realizing how much better it is to just reach out directly online to the consumers, no expensive expos needed. I loved my time and experience at E3, I made friendships that I still have to this day, but I do understand why it needs to go, having seen first hand what these companies are having to invest to make it happen. There's a metric shit-ton of money dumped into that event every year, and the ROI isn't producing profitable results.
It is rather costly to be there and Nintendo was there but not all the time. when they are succeeding... they show up to promote. when they are lagging... they still do their own thing to promote. As for sony, they certainly arent lagging so their reason (as they said) last year was they had nothing to show other than what was shown before. They cant use that excuse this time. They have stuff to show and they would be foolish to skip again. They were one of the principals behind driving E3 to its success... it is bad form for them to back out of this year even though they can still have their own event prior. If the rumors about their dealings with the ESA were true then people wouldnt get upset if Sony just said, "we dont like dealing with the ESA and have decided to back out of any further E3 shows" but instead... they said we have nothing to show this year which may have had some truth to it but it also sounds like a lie to cover their issues with ESA. They don't need to protect us, they can be honest and people will understand.
Some things can’t be disclosed between two companies to either avoid lawsuit or bad press. This is just like Konami and Kojima. Kojima never revealed anything about The fallout because it would get him in trouble
I don't think it's a good idea but then again I get that Sony is leading by a big margin so it can afford to miss it. But I think it's still a bit of a risky play. Not as risky as it would be historically though as there a multitude of events, whilst not as big as E3 afaik, can get just as much exposure in this more digitally focused age.
"They have stuff to show and they would be foolish to skip again." I'll give Sony a call and tell them to hire you, seeing as you have a better grasp on the dynamic than the company itself. /s
Nintendo haven’t shown up their for years so to suggest they drop in and out when they popular or not is absolute guff. They do their own treehouse and directs and slip e3 smart being as they prob get charged thousands and their own thing is much cheaper and on their terms not on the terms of a conference hall in San Fran over 3 days of the 365 days a game can be announced in a year ;)
Psx has been kinda trash with the exception of probably just lou2 and there hasn't been a SoP that completely wowed me and Im pretty sure many others. It was always e3 that sony has had many great showings. E3 is like Christmas for gamers and for sony to abandon that quite saddens me. Although this could mean sony could show off games too early much less and have less pressure which is nice.
TBH Sony should skip it every year and just do PSX
Sony knows what they're doing..everybody just sit back and enjoy the ride.
From what I heard its because of ESA besides games just gonna get leaked like last time. Can't blame them from dropping out of E3.
If it had been dying for year, then surely it would have already been dead by now? Surely MS, Ubisoft, Bethesda, Square Enix (and even Nintendo, with their usual E3 Direct) would have already packed up and left E3? Sounds to me like just because Sony doesn’t attend E3 for one year, you are crying for E3 to shut down.
It's always packed out you can't make that kind of assumption. It is bad news, it's spiteing gamers who are fans of the console, they should have a presence there even if they only are limited in what they can show at the time.
Right or wrong that's the path Sony is going down. They dominated E3 news without attending last year and dropped the news of insomniac on first day of games on so they just want to do it the way they see best benefit their brand
“ They dominated E3 news without attending last year” Let me guess, Death Stranding right? The one sole game that dominated E3 and eclipse everything MS, Nintendo, Bethesda, Square Enix, or any publishers announced or did during the show combined?
Don't mean it like that after E3 usually they release what people searched/watched the most and ps4 was pretty high up there
Depends on what you refer to when you say E3. EA doesn't attend E3 but still holds an event during the same time period as E3. Is that E3? Officially, no. It does, however, show that the industry sees this time as a good period to market upcoming releases and, broadly speaking, calling that E3 is the easiest way to communicate what's going on. As to whether it's right to attend or skip. You never know until after the fact. Marketing is one of these things where it can be very difficult to measure the impact, and E3 hasn't always been the best way to measure interest in a product.
If you think about it... EA does attend. They just do their show elsewhere like MS does. E3 is more than just the one big show floor. it is all the conferences that are scheduled during that time frame. It's all part of E3, be it demos on the show floor or big flashy stages down the block.
I don't care. People forget Sony once unveiled vaporware at every E3 conference. Games that never existed nor will ever exist
The Getaway,Agent what else did they present that turned out to be vaporware.
Eyedentify Eight Days I don't count Deep Down because that was Capcom.
Agent was also rockstar wasn't it.
Now, counter balance that with the amount of games they did reveal over the course of 25 years that came out. Games get canceled. What else is new. Nintendo and Microsoft revealed games that became "vaporware" too. But you somehow are forgetting about that now?
8 days tech was used to create uncharted so its unfair to mention it and agent was canceled so Rockstar could focus on their gta and rdr they didn't have more time for anything else. Plus that money help them stay alive and they still help sony make money by sales and online. I am sure there are plenty getting plus inly for gta online. But i agree all the devs waste time creating demos for e3 its a easte of time they could use to make the game better then the pressure to have wow moment no meter what for example ubisoft always upgrading their demos to have wow factors but then their games come out downgraded huge time and etc etc. E3 is good but also has bad things like those. I think deep down was way to ambitious and free to play it was supposed to be a free game and it can still come but i hope it doesn't it sounds like it will be a microtransactions pay to win game. The idea was cool until they mention free to play. Good it hopefully got canceled.
I would still prefer sony to be at e3 but I remember when sony won e3 2015 with Shenmue and ff7 remake, turns out neither are even exclusive lol
Prob as it happened once it’s not a yearly occurrence this entire gen they’ve done nothing of the sort. Anyone for a game of scalebound... oh wait.
Somehow my life went on, weird. Everyone forgot, cus they didn't care.
So which one (E3 or PSX) has more exposure in general?
It won’t matter, the PS5 reveal event will get the most exposure. Times have changed, a single tweet can reach more people than an event. People need to look at this from a business point. At some point soon Sony are going to unveil the PS5, along with that there will be gameplay. This gameplay has to be prepared by devs, who have stated in the past that preparing on stage demos (like E3) can take up to 3 months of their time. So it will surely be better for Sony once their devs have shown of gameplay just to be allowed to get on and make games for the release date and take the pressure away from them having to attend E3. I think last year Sony did an announcement release trailer for Death Stranding and that got more attention than MS conference. What do remember from MS conference? Oh yeah, Keane Reeves promoting a game that will sell more on a rival platform. The only one to benefit was Keane Reeves.
I support Sony's stance on this,they want to take they're promotion in a new direction. I can't wait for upcoming news & events. There will be a month long Sony event called Playstation Experience here in NYC which starts tomorrow & ends February 16,I'll definitely will be visiting the event.
I must have missed this, where is it located. I remember when Sony shut down their midtown location and haven't been to an event since in NYC.
Just FYI https://www.playstationlife...
The place was half empty last year. E3 will be dead in 5 years. Nintendo actually had the right idea hears ago to just do their own thing.
They absolutely did and it’s done them no harm they’ve gone from shifting 13 million home console to jumping Xbox overall so yeah was hardly a terrible decision if anything it’s done them the world of good. Give me 5-6 directs over a year rather than 3 days of e3 a year anytime.
Yes. They can control leaks with their own show and from a financial standpoint it makes little sense to pay someone else for a space when they can put that money into their own show .
Well, it kind of makes sense that sense Sony didn't go to E3, that you don't get many leaks like back in the day. Sites have to make up leaks now.
Why can't they just do their own show but at E3 time , I would prefer that.
Similar to what Nintendo does, I would like that too. At least then we would have something to watch from Sony during E3.
"what's E3 Dad?" Well son....
It's that event that was smaller than the European and Asian events and preceded things like PAX, BlizzCon, and other events that are still happening.
How is E3 smaller than other events? In terms of attending guests?
That’s a bad mode. I don’t understand it.
Here we go again. Time for the same old talking points.
Even nintendo has presence in E3, last e3 sony's excuse was "not much to show this year" they got a lot to show this year with a new console coming this year and it's a skip. Uhhh
They did it last year and they did amazing its not like they are not showing games or doing presentations furing the year. Rockstar has never been on e3 and their games is most wanted played game ever so it's definitely not that powerful if you have a smart marketing and you do thing right e3 won't make the difference. Not saying e3 is bad, but many games get lost from the many announcements on one day one place without giving it it own momentum or hype. Plus the pressure on all this companies to show something it's disgusting. They have showed like 100 games in the last 10 years that never came out and they did it to impress and have a wow factor. I rather them to not have that pressure and show the game on its own time when its really ready and not just to wow us, devs waste week or months of development to create demos or shows for the e3 and also other games to later find out it was canceled or it was never even made but only a concept. Let the devs focus on the game they are making and let the companies show us the games are truly coming out and how they truly are not upgraded version that then are hugely downgraded for example watchdog
I don't know, but Sony doing what they think is right for them has worked out fantastically this gen, so there's plenty of reason to believe they know what they're doing.
I don't care one way or the other, Sony always had the biggest announcements, those announcements will still happen without e3. I mostly ignored last years e3. E3 needs Sony far more than Sony needs e3.
They didn't attend last year and they were the most talked about. Bring all the vapor doom articles, again, and fail, again. PlayStation is not #1 because of E3. Think about this... Nintendo and Sony left E3 but still, they are at the top of the market.
Look, all I’m hoping is that they make it up with something like a PSX event. Last year sucked with Sony not doing anything but those State of Play directs, which were lackluster. Part of the fun of E3 was seeing who would have the better showing. Guess those days are gone now.
the fun for me was just seeing what everyone had in the works but all at the same time, like Christmas . I wish sony would still have an e3 conference
I would prefer it if everyone held an event at E3 time. As a big gamer it's the time of year I look forward to the most so obviously the more games I get to see the better. All the people saying it's been dying for years or playstation is E3 are obviously just fans who have no interest in anything other than playstation.
I'd say last year yes they we're right, but this is a console launch year, a big mistake not to do an unveiling, then more of an in depth dive on their other shows.
Yeah they big enough to do their own thing Nintendo have done for years and now with directs and Sony’s own shows not to mention twitter etc. Games can be announced any day of the week don’t all have to be revealed over 3 days during e3 sure love e3 thst was when I was buying Gamesmaster magazine and it took 5-10 minutes to load up websites as they had a picture Haha in this day and age can watch a full blown video or livestream Any event from anywhere in the world whenever they want. If I was Sony I’d give it a month or 2 then drop a major warning warning video incoming ps5 news. Show off the controller maybe.. month or so later.. 🚨 drop another video here’s some exclusives or the console itself etc. Hype building slowly and steadily not announce everything 12 months in advance and what for everything to change by then. Red dead and rockstar showed you drop a trailer people will watch 😜🤓✌🏻
Not in a year they release their next gen system. STUPID MOVE. PERIOD.
It’s a dumb move by Sony! So many people tune in to watch E3 and with them not being there it only hurts they’re business
It hurts e3, not Sony.
I don't know about any of you but e3 doesn't affect any of my purchasing decisions. Sony could abandon it permanently and their games will sell well.
As someone that keeps up with gaming news I couldn't care less. Having said I don't know what kind of impact conferences like E3 have so I can't say if Sony is right or wrong.
Has Sony given any reason as to why they aren’t coming? I’m sure they know what they are doing and in no way will it hurt the PS5 because that thing will sell itself. In fact, it has already sold millions. Lol!
Let's just wait and see. The decisions are already made. No more point of blowing this out of proportions. If this doesn't pan out as Sony plans, well we'll see Sony at E3 2021 sure. They can atleast do some fan service and schedule a special State of Play during the E3 week. Or just few days prior to get the hype started.
The pollo 🐓 is strooong with sony. Coulda been knack 3...then micdrop
At this point, I think it's safe to say Sony isn't just "skipping" E3.
Sony had hype at last years E3 with multiplatformed games Microsoft was showing off and the excitement really happened when Square dropped the FF7 remake bomb. Maybe Sony is saving up for E3 2021 to drop some massive exclusive bombs.