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Who Will Lose More Money?

New systems are always in the future. Upgrading them so they can display 4K or higher and a frame rate of 60 FPS. Those options always make things cost more money, which makes it harder to sell the units.
Being able to get the systems out to as many people should be the goal.

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Inzo14d ago

Well consoles are being sold at a loss so the money will come from the games and out the gate the PS5 has the advantage especially with MS announcing that their system wont have exclusives until 2022 which is understandable because they only made significant changes to their approach to exclusives less than a year ago.

In the meantime MS will focus heavily on their streaming service but here is the unpopular opinion, MS is putting all their eggs into one basket and its going to backfire. We already saw this with gears5 which has sold poorly at retail. Time will tell if MS will launch another anticipated AAA game on gamepass. Just like Disney I think MS is putting way to much into streaming and while Sony is also going to put more focus on streaming and GAAS, purchased exclusive games will still be the forefront.

TK-6614d ago (Edited 14d ago )

"We already saw this with gears5 which has sold poorly at retail"

It's going to backfire except when it doesn't: https://www.google.com/amp/...

Inzo14d ago

"It's going to backfire except when it doesn't"

Except it did and its the worst selling in franchise history. Of course MS has withheld all sales numbers.

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

And fyi, Crapgamer is one of MS biggest fanboys or at least he used to be.

TK-6613d ago

@Inzo

Except you haven't provided evidence for that. I'm going to need a source buddy.

"And fyi, Crapgamer is one of MS biggest fanboys or at least he used to be."

Wow, so a fanboy is your source? LOL. Your counter to a direct statement from MS is a fanboy? Are you being serious?

CaptainCook13d ago (Edited 13d ago )

You do realise Gears of War 5 digital was cheaper than the physical version. Digital games is becoming more cheaper and convenient than Physical discs.

Inzo13d ago

Wow so your source is MS who didnt release any figures? So I guess we just have to take their word for it. Show me the figures and then I'll provide you with a link. And yes I am being serious. Are you?

TK-6613d ago (Edited 13d ago )

@Inzo

"Wow so your source is MS who didnt release any figures? So I guess we just have to take their word for it."

Yes. A drastically better source than a youtuber that you describe as a "fanboy". If your best retaliation is that Microsoft are lying then why would you trust sales figures from them? They can lie about those too so why are you so obsessed with those if you think MS is going to lie anyway? You see how dumb your position is yet?

Inzo13d ago

Yes my "fanboy" can be lying but he is not because its widely reported and of course MS is lying or at least bending the truth. They say that Gears5 is the most successful launch (on gamepass) in franchise history yet conveniently fail to mention actual sales, they rather went with the "Attracting 3 million people" route and with a peak of between 9 to 10k player engagement at launch it means that even if you spend two minutes playing the game you are part of that 3 million. Add to that its steady player decline where it barely gets to 1000 players. Lets not forget that Gears5 also launched on a few extra platforms.

https://www.pcgamesn.com/ge...

TK-6613d ago (Edited 13d ago )

@Inzo

I'm seeing a lot of projection right now. You accuse MS of being dishonest and then go out of your way to be extremely dishonest in your argument. That 10k player count number? Only counted Steam users. Try harder.

Also your source is limited to the UK. So if the game struggles in the UK that's now proof of it failing worldwide? Once again, try harder to veil your dishonesty.

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343_Guilty_Spark14d ago

None of those Microsoft studio games will be on PS5

343_Guilty_Spark13d ago

@Inzo

The games being on the Xbox One and Xbox One Series X is irrelevant. Like many X enhanced games there will likely be a gigantic gulf in quality.

Those games will never appear on PS5 so they are exclusive, they just aren't exclusive to any XBOX....key difference here.

THC CELL14d ago

Ms won't admit it but game pass has lost em money

DarXyde14d ago

I mean, they can't exactly LIE about their earnings. They are a publicly-listed company trading on the stock market. Whether or not they are required to specify where the profits come from however, that could be something else.

King_Noctis14d ago

So why haven’t they shut it down? They are a public-traded company after all. They can’t just keep losing money without doing something to fix it.

But I guess you wouldn’t realize that, would you?

CaptainHenry91614d ago (Edited 14d ago )

They need to get as many customers as they can. I hope they don't shut it down though because Windows gamepass is a steal

King_Noctis14d ago

“I hope they don't shut it down though because Windows gamepass is a steal”

I’m using Gamepass for Windows now and it is awesome. The problem is it is still in Beta, so alot of games are missing from it. I hope MS makes an announcement about it leaving beta sometime soon so we can get more games.

TK-6614d ago (Edited 14d ago )

So what you're saying is that MS are providing one of the best deals in gaming and taking a loss for it? That's pretty generous of them. Are you trying to make them look good, or are you playing 4D chess with yourself?

Echo_14d ago

Which company is worth more money?

Apocalypse Shadow14d ago

And how did that money help them the last 3 generations?

Thundercat7714d ago

😂

Xbox has never won a generation and is constantly loosing to its competitors so I guess that all that money has done anything for them.

King_Noctis14d ago

Still staying in The gaming business for 3 straight generations? Acquiring more studios? Making more games?

Apocalypse Shadow14d ago (Edited 14d ago )

King Noctis

You mean, always in third. Bought studios close to bankruptcy after closing many, better studios. And, making more games....eventually. Still got to wait. Lol. And PlayStation was called the wait station. The irony.

Anyway, Sony can lose money, and still outsell their opponent. It's already happened before.

RazzerRedux14d ago

"Still staying in The gaming business for 3 straight generations? Acquiring more studios? Making more games?"

Well then, in that regard, how are they different than Sony except Sony has been around one generation longer?

King_Noctis13d ago (Edited 13d ago )

“ You mean, always in third. Bought studios close to bankruptcy after closing many, better studios. And, making more games....eventually.“

Didn’t Sony close a couple of studios as well? And what’s wrong with MS buying studios at the edge of bankruptcy just to save them? You’d rather those studios shut down because they aren’t making games for the Sony going forward? And were Playground Games, Ninja Theory, or Double Fine near bankrupt at the time of the acquisition?

As for being third while selling 40 to 50 million consoles, I think any companies in the entire world would settle for that. Would they rather be number one? You bet they would, and that is why they are rebuilding their brand.

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Inzo14d ago

Worth doesnt equate to revenue.

CorndogBurglar14d ago

Microsoft is obviously worth more money. That doesn't mean anything though. What does that have to do with how much money they will lose on console sales? Consoles always sell at a loss for the company. They make their money on games and peripherals. That has been known for literal generations.

YodaCracker14d ago (Edited 14d ago )

Microsoft: 1.246 trillion
Sony: 88.82 billion

Microsoft is only worth 14x more.

THC CELL14d ago (Edited 14d ago )

Xbox ain't t tho
Sony 106 million consoles sold so up that

And game pass is to gain desperate numbers of users not gaining much when everyone paying £1 or free spec with the big games they Gave away

CaptainCook13d ago

@The Cell
Xbox Brand Is More Valuable Than PlayStation and Nintendo

Xbox is ranked 87th
https://www.ft.com/content/...

RazzerRedux13d ago

"Xbox Brand Is More Valuable Than PlayStation and Nintendo"

Sure....you can believe that if you want. I'll believe the annual reports that show PlayStation generates twice the revenue than the entire "gaming" division at Microsoft.

RazzerRedux14d ago

Whose movie business is worth more? That is just as relevant a question as yours.

Hungryalpaca13d ago

If a rich man runs a race and loses to a poor man, he still lost the race.

snoopgg13d ago

Who cares how much money Microsoft has, Sony delivers the games. That's what matters.

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Blu3_Berry14d ago

Google will lose more money.

thexmanone14d ago

Man that PS5 looks ugly in that pic,

Sony will lose

RazzerRedux14d ago

"Man that PS5 looks ugly in that pic"

Agree. Ready for them to reveal the actual console so we don't have to look at that thing anymore.

JonTheGod13d ago

It's only the dev kit. Not the final design.

Literally everyone knows this.

snoopgg13d ago

Not the bots they are pretty clueless.

Hungryalpaca13d ago

Uh Microsoft has lost every gen it’s participated in.

snoopgg13d ago

Looks better then that wanna be tower. What a unspired design.

thexmanone13d ago

LOL, Right, It looks just like my wife`s robo vac.

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