Randy Pitchford Doesn’t Seem to be Impressed with the Xbox Series X; Calls Out Phil Spencer

Microsoft’s Executive President of Gaming took to Twitter to respond to an article from Eurogamer’s Digital Foundry on the next-gen Xbox, the Series X. In the article, Eurogamer mentions that the power increase for the Series X over the original Xbox One and Xbox One X is likely achieved through increased processor frequency instead of transistor density. According to Moore’s Law, transistor density on a microchip should double about every two years, but this ‘pace’ appears to be slowing down.

[Spurg]

If Randy Pitchford doesn't like it then it must be good.

[IRetrouk]

Seems to me like he just wanted some info on the next box lol, liked how he shut down the other dude, that was a headshot lol.

[Wasabi]

Pitchford;

***"If I could wave a magic wand, Xbox and Playstation would both be incredibly powerful and keep parity with one another. I think Sony and Microsoft should team up, actually"***

Jesus, what would N4G argue and insult each other over if this came true?

[IRetrouk]

I actually think they will be pretty much even next gen, I think the main differences are going to be the customised stuff both are doing, imagine a joint console though, instead of console fanboys we would get developer fanboys, publisher fanboys and service fanboys lol the arguments would continue.

[The 10th Rider]

The more powerful consoles get, the smaller and smaller the difference is, proportionally.

For instance, a 6 teraflop console is much more powerful than a 4 teraflop . . . Change that out to 12 and 10 and the percentage gap and what you can get out of it is much smaller.

[JEECE]

People would still need to repeatedly point out that the switch isn't very powerful, so we'd always have that.

[jwillj2k4]

The ps5 will be Sony’s last independently built hardware. If you know you know.

[onisama]

I owned both consoles i like both for deffirent reasons and i would say no its better to keep the compitition up that what keep the greed out and give us exclusives and improvements....
Dumb fans will always be dumb and fight for non since but you can just ignore them

[rainslacker]

Could spend the next 7 years discussing which controller is better. Oh.....battery preference for controllers? Perhaps there would be a power brick on one, but not the other? Oh, and disparate streaming or rental services? Online features and capabilities. The shape of the console? Sales numbers.....based on reports AND assumption?

So, like the power debate.....nothing really important.

[King_Noctis]

They would still have Nintendo to insult though.

[Blu3_Berry]

Not sure what he was expecting. Neither next-gen consoles will revolutionize anything from what we know about so far.

[IRetrouk]

Load times, ray tracing, ai, framerate, will all get a serious boost next gen because of the newer parts and the customisation being done on them, it's going to be a much bigger jump than the last two that's for sure, be excited man lol.

[Blu3_Berry]

I mean that's to be expected. Don't get me wrong I'm ready for next-gen, but I don't think we will be seeing any huge leaps that complete revamps gaming for a long time. Just improved graphics, physics, better ai (hopefully), improved load times, etc. Those are all definitely great things.

It's weird, I'm just not expecting it to be a huge jump. I feel like as we enter each new gen, the jumps will be less noticeable. I think it all depends on the developers honestly and if they utilize everything to their disposal or not. Main thing I want for next-gen is all games to be 60 fps option.

[IRetrouk]

All fair points of view, although I disagree, I think everything will be improved, with enough ram, these new CPUs and GPUs along with the customizations should give us a big enough jump to notice, I'm looking at denser worlds with better loading and textures, I honestly dont mind games at 30, 60 is better but a rock steady 30 is fine too, driveclub was 30 but felt lightning quick, same as pgr etc, I'm more interested in detail and the new visual tricks, along with the ray tracing tech and the SSDs helping with loading, I can understand your view though, I just feel with all these newer additions that some real jumps are possible.

[andibandit]

I really dont think AI and Framerate are getting any serious boost.
My expectations:

Framerate - Most games will try to do 30fps as a minimum with some games doing 60, kinda what we have today.

AI - Nothing in the last 20 years have made me go, "Wow this really is leaps ahead of any other AI's I've experienced"....not expecting any change here.

[IRetrouk]

Fair enough dude, wont be too long before we find out lol

[specialguest]

@IRetrouk
What's revolutionary about what you listed. All of that are done on PC now. That's evolutionary. The normal progression with current tech, NOT revolutionary

[IRetrouk]

I didnt say anything was going to revolutionize anything, I said we should see a bigger jump than in previous gens.....

[FinalFantasyFanatic]

@AndIBandit,

The last time AI impressed me was on Crisis, and that was a bloody long time ago.

[I_am_Batman]

We don't have all the details yet, but from what we know it's safe to say that it'll be a much bigger jump than we've seen from 7th to 8th gen.

CPU and I/O transfer speed improvements alone will unlock game design in many exciting ways. Of course some games will simply be prettier, better performing versions of current gen games, but top tier devs will blow our minds for sure.

[Zeref]

Are you kidding me?

[Sophisticated_Chap]

I agree. Essentially, the next gen consoles, while powerful, will still lag far behind higher end PC hardware by a lot. The RTX 2080 TI can't even play RDR2 at 4K/60 on max settings, and the PS5 and Xbox will be running what I believe will be the equivalent to the RX 5700 XT, which is around 30% less powerful at reference clock speeds.

Before next gen consoles launch next year, we will also be getting NAVI 2.0 (big Navi) and Nvidia 3000 series cards, which should put even further distance between consoles and PCs. However, for what the consoles are, they do provide pretty good value for the cost.

[UltraNova]

No one ever said or expected consoles to be beefier than high end PC's of the time they are released...

[nucky64]

it seems to be accepted that load times will (thankfully) be practically nonexistent in the new consoles- and THAT is revolutionary.

[Sophisticated_Chap]

Revolutionary by console standards. SSDs have been available in PCs for almost 10 years now.

[IRetrouk]

Posted on wrong reply

[Jon_Targaryen]

Now every second dude is going to claim he can build a better console... FML

[Zeref]

We weren't impressed by Godfall either Randy

[Sonyslave3]

Agree 🤣

[Sophisticated_Chap]

Looked like Quantum Theory 2 to me.

[Yui_Suzumiya]

I loved Quantum Theory. I'm shocked someone would remember it!

[Sophisticated_Chap]

This game has the same graphical style, and it looks like you're supposed to fight your way up a tower, just like Quantum Theory.

[Prem8tuaProcrastin8a]

Randy Pitchford: the poster child for vulture capitalism, and CEO greed, is attempting to call someone out? 😲😂🤣 Last time he did this, it didn't go well, he still has Jim Sterlings bootprints on his ass. Nevermind the fact that what Phil Spencer said is true, Moore's law IS slowing down, Pitchford is a known liar, who will do or say anything that benefits him. Could his statement be something to do with the fact his company is making a game that is console exclusive to the ps5?🤔

[rainslacker]

Moore's law doesn't specifically account for the size of the transistors. When Moore made the statement, reducing transistor size was the most common way to get more on the same size die, but there are quite a few chip advancements which double in size while going to a larger chip.

Moore's law is slowing down, but I think it's only slowing down on the frequency of how often the transistors double, not the fact that they double, and the price part is somewhat independent of the base part of the law, since that's controlled by corporate necessity, which has changed since he posited his law.

However, the larger the transistors, the more power they require, so it becomes a balancing act to get them onto a proper size die, which is why it's actually slowed down, as die sizes have to remain within some level of reasonable power consumption due to heat issues.

Other factors exist as well, but we could discuss those things all day, so don't take my exclusion of something as me being wrong on other factors.

[NXFather]

Yeah but, it is only slowing down to fabrication processes even as said by Richard from digital foundry and not due to the laws of nature. But, yea he is wrong practically speaking.
2:27 Mark

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[TheRacingX]

LIke we should listen to ,or, hold anything he says with any type of merit..... I remember his BS saying how incredible Aliens Colonial Marines was going to be the greatest Aliens game with all this promised but never materialized gameplay....or how the new Duke Nukem was going to be this generational leap and true sequel that the fans were asking for..... yeah .... Randy Pitchford is a consumate used car salesman clown....

[SprigganN4G]

Randy not even with a nasa power pc rig you'll make a good game

[Smokehouse]

The Xbox is too old for pitchfork. It’s 19 years old.

[Sophisticated_Chap]

Utter nonsense. Perhaps Randy should consider what it costs to build a powerful console, which can be sold at an affordable price. If you want Moore's Law, then get into PC gaming, and problem solved.

[TheHateTheyGive]

Phils not crazy, just a compulsive liar.

[Vega75]

👌

[battlegrog]

So we know absolutely nothing about this thing and someone is ale to hate or like it. Cute

[DVAcme]

I'm amused by the fact that Randy Pitchford thinks he has any sort of ground to stand on to call out anybody.

[Saijahn]

I remember all the rumors about the X and how people didn’t think MS could launch such a beastly console..they did. Whatever they figured out with the X they’ll go beyond with the Series X.

I can’t talk specs as I’m ignorant to it but I can talk what I know. MS is trending upwards with their hardware and software.

[TheHateTheyGive]

The thing is there's no game on that beast that looks better than any ps4 exclusive like god of war, spiderman, detroit and many others. What good is having a powerful console that no one owns if they cant showcase the power?
Also, no unreal engine crud please. Days gone is the showcase piece for UE4 console wise.

[Elda]

Anyone with common sense knows one can't be impressed if there isn't any showing of gameplay of new games running on the hardware to represent,cgi fmv doesn't cut it.

[King_Noctis]

It still early days. No one would expect MS to reveal everything on a show that isn’t even theirs (well, except for N4G that is and I’m no surprised).

[aaronaton]

TBF the Xbox division in general is bad for the environment. Imagine funding and having hundreds of people work on crackdown 3... Such a waste of resources.

[ElementX]

Crackdown 3 wasn't in-house, it was a contracted game by Sumo and other devs. I'd be surprised if MS sends any more games their way. Of course, MS guided them in some way, however Sumo did all the work and after delays, it was probably better to release it than scrap it and waste the money.

[xX1NORM1Xx]

If randy pitchford told me fire was hot I wouldn't believe him. He's a fucking slimy creep that should have been removed from his position years ago.

I can't imagine ps5 and xbox will be all that different in terms of power.

[overrated44]

Randy Pitchford said something dumb? I'm am SHOCKED! Didn't someone find child porn on this dude's computer after he took a bonus from 2K that was meant to be for his employees and then kept it for himself??

[Wasabi]

@overrated44

***"Didn't someone find child porn on this dude's computer after he took a bonus from 2K that was meant to be for his employees and then kept it for himself??"***

Haha, I think it was just porn on a works thumbdrive. I agree with you that Pitchford is a massive idiot, but not sure we can start labeling him a pedo just yet lol.

[Automatic79]

There was no going back and forth. This website needs hits.

[TheColbertinator]

Pitchford is over party

[HighPlayer28]

Xbox Series X is going to be incredible. The haters are coming out already lol.

[Wasabi]

@Highplayer

I think both next gen consoles are going to be incredible, I'm pretty excited to see how developers take advantage of the massively increased hard drive speeds and more capable CPU.

I'm just looking forward to being able to play Monster Hunter World in resolution mode at (hopefully) a locked 60fps.

[Kumakai]

Whelp he’s not gonna be impressed with ps5 either then, cuz they are pretty much identical from a hardware standpoint.

[pornflakes]

Gearbox - the lazy dev who cant achieve locked 30 FPS on performance mode on the PS4pro and oneX - maybe Borderlands 3 will finally run with 60 FPPS on PS5 and SX?? I am talking here about performance mode, 1080p xD

Well randy needs for sure 20 tflops to get his games finally running with 60 FPS xD

[UnholyLight]

I wish he would just shut up, make a next gen Brothers In Arms, and take my money.

I just want a proper WWII shooter on console again

[TheVigilanteCode]

Well, the paid consumers of Aliens: Colonial marines, and SEGA, from whom you STOLE money (and fund it into borderlands) to make that hot trash, since ET on Atari, aren't impressed either, Randy.

[TheEroica]

Randy is a hack... Xbox just had a great showing.

[SephirothX21]

Both these guys have accomplished more than vast majority of of you writing negative comments.

[FanboysKiller]

He praised the one x and bashed series x, that's so weird.

[Arty84]

Probably had nothing to do with Godfall right...

[Einhander1971]

Regarding Hell blade it was nothing but CGI didn’t show anything that resembles real-time gameplay. God Fall looks underwhelming admitted. But don’t judge ps5 yet.

[NeoGamer232]

Randy should stick to making games.... Specifically Borderlands because that's the only game in the last decade that his team made that was worth buying.

[jjb1981]

Don't let this distract you from Da PoWa uV Da KlOuDz!!!

[Belmont85]

Randy PitchforK

[MasterCornholio]

Well I wasn't impressed with Aliens Colonial Marines.

Why should we take him seriously after that?

[bluefox755]

It doesn't seem like he's the only one who's not impressed.