"What this design does, with the size of the fan that we built around, is it lets us match how quiet the Xbox One X is with all that power inside of the box."
The Xbox X doesn't make a peep. I'm glad those jet engine days are long gone in regards to Xbox
Maybe Sony will get a clue and design their PS5 to be more silent as well. The fan in the PS4 was ridiculously loud. Wonder how much throttling occurs when the heat hits threshold.
Yeah, my PS4 used to be quiet, then I remember one day it started sounding like a grizzly bear in a street fight. Hopefully Sony will be able to do the same for the PS5.
It doesn't throttle, doesn't have that. It spins the fan as much as it can, then if it still rising temp then it shut it self off.
my launch ps4 is quiet almost all the time. i clean my vents every week.
I will agree that the original Pro model sounds like a jumbo ready for take off. I got the 500 million Pro to replace it and it's so much quieter. They definitely learned a lot with the redesign.
Neither console has any issue staying cool. Loud fans does not mean the console is even close to overheating. The PS4 just spins the fan fast to overcompensate. It's definitely a lame design choice they should have covered. Testing shows the PS4(at launch) stayed 1 degree cooler than the XBox One. But, both boxes are incredibly below any overheating temperature. Obviously, if the X1 fan was ramped up it would be lower temp than the PS4 but it's just not necessary. I really don't get why they have the fan ramp up so quickly. Some models are whisper quiet, and others get way too loud like mine.
They cant cus they insist on being smaller. Which means louder fans and hotter. I think its about time consoles evolved and became more universal pike pc. So good on xbox
I had an OG PS4 and that sounded loud as hell at times. Picked up a slim PS4 recently with RDR2 and it's as silent as a whisper
Hopefully the open vents on top don’t allow the dust to get in. Last thing anyone would want is another RROD situation, way more concerning of an issue. I have a feeling that top grill will serve as a speaker or voice recording device as well. It seems very Alexa based in design.
"...another RROD situation, way more concerning of an issue." Yeah, that issue was over two decades plus ago. I think that and the YLoD issues are no longer a concern for the next gen consoles as they weren't a concern at all this gen. A built in speaker would be pretty cool, I would not be mad at that. I did enjoy using it when I had my Kinect.
my thought was when it doesn't run - would it be smart to keep the top covered with something(if upright) so dust can't fall down into it? -at gangsta red : "2 decades"? MS has been making consoles for 15 years - and RRoD was like 12 years ago - NOT 2 decades. and RRoD was a HUGE problem - YLoD was not.
@nucky Point is it was a long time ago. That ship has been set sailed and not even worth mentioning because it's no longer a problem. That's like worrying about leprosy.
@gangsta_red Well. The YLoD was never an issue because the failure rate was so ridiculously low regardless of media outlets trying to cover it like it's another major console problem. But, I get you're just digging at SpaceRanger for bringing up the RRoD again. Sony may have the smallest box right now and the better hardware history. But, I do like Microsoft's simple design of their box. I'm not a fan of the slanted look of the PS4. The only one I really liked were the limited edition models, especially the Destiny TTK model which is when I finally got a PS4. I normally don't like flashy for the sake of being flashy. But, the piano black and chrome launch PS3 was sooo good looking. I'd love to see some sort of callback to that design. Sony did release quite a few limited editions this generation so maybe we'll get that kind of design again in some way. Very curious what their regular box will look like. @Vokun "RROD was only a huge problem on the first iteration of 360 just like YLOD was a huge problem on the FAT PS3 models as they were famous for breaking due to overheating. Fully working FAT models are getting rare these days." Nah, it took 360 years till they revised the RRoD issue. They even released multiple editions including the elite that still had the issue. YLoD was never a "huge problem". Make sure that these are factual observations and not simply word of mouth. Well, a console being rare is anecdotal and also it's also the most sought after PS3 model because of its looks, and for the OG backwards compatible model. We don't have to keep trying to compare RRoD to other things that are incomparable. It really was that bad. But, it is done. The launch XBox One was a dreadful design with being so huge, with an enormous power brick, and while having 50% less GPU cores as the PS4 that took half the space. But, I don't see that poor design anymore. I'm find with the new SX design. It's good. It looks like it could require more effort to make a spot for it but I like it. Since the X1X Slim their design is compact, nice looking, and has internal power bricks which is nice.
Dust gets in just through the act of pulling air through the intakes. I doubt you'd see a significant rise in dust because the vents are on the top
@nucky64 ***""2 decades"? MS has been making consoles for 15 years - and RRoD was like 12 years ago - NOT 2 decades"*** You're correcting Gangsta for being inaccurate with time periods whilst doing exactly the same yourself. The original Xbox released in 2001, We are now almost in 2020. That's not 15 years, it's almost 20!
I'm starting to get use to the design now. Its interesting how strong the console is spec wise but yet a little smaller than the X1 that's drastically weaker but bigger in size.
No, it doesn't. The loudest it's gotten for me was playing Metro Exodus, and that wasn't even loud. My launch PS4 Pro sounds like I'm standing on a crowded runway at LAX. The map of Midgard in God of War pushes the fans to their limit. I'll never understand what's so hardware intensive about God of War's map screen. In any case, I hope both consoles are as quiet as the X or better.
@Synthetic ***"I'll never understand what's so hardware intensive about God of War's map screen"*** Map / Inventory screens make the fans ramp up because quite often the framerate limiter is not active on these screens, so the GPU goes into overdrive. It's why many games crash on map / inventory screens rather than in game.
@Wasabi Appreciate the education - had no clue about that. Always just assumed the frame rate was 30 on those screens. That's strange though because the frame rate isn't exactly high on those screens but maybe that doesn't matter.
@Synthetic ***"Appreciate the education - had no clue about that. Always just assumed the frame rate was 30 on those screens. That's strange though because the frame rate isn't exactly high on those screens but maybe that doesn't matter"*** You're welcome mate, It's not every game that works this way, but many do. It's easiest to see on PC where you have the option to display the FPS counter. Quite often games will shoot up to 300 - 500 fps on menu screens when vertical sync is disabled.
They pioneered both the Hovis method of console design as well as the first vapor chamber cooling in a console. I imagine that their new consoles uses superior, more refined versions of both of these.
The Surface team creating Xbox consoles was a brilliant decision by Microsoft. Xbox will never again suffer from a hardware standpoint now that Phil is leading the division.
Cause it will be in constant sleep mode like my Xbox1? Come on that was an easy one had to say it :)
Phil Spencer:"Yep, saw a build the other day, looked good. One thing I love about CD, you know it from a single frame, look is iconic." about crackdown 3
My Xbox One X gets really loud sometimes when playing Modern Warfare. Does this happen to anyone else? This is the only time it makes a sound.
Very cool! The one x is silent
Xbox one has always been quite. My PlayStation 4 is a different story I've lost two of the because they took off and flew away.
Of all things it deffo something ps5 will need ta work on
The Microsoft hardware team already does an amazing job on the Surface line of products. Xbox One S and X are also very well engineered pieces of tech so I expect nothing less from them.
Well if it was the same size or smaller then the X or Pro, well that would be amazing, but being 2 times bigger and with a pc box design...
Honestly i dont give a shit how quiet or loud a system is because my surround sound is always on and i wouldn't hear it anyway. 😂
I'm kind of the same way. I can hear my consoles during quiet times, but otherwise, it's just background noise. My house furnace is significantly louder than any console, and it doesnt bother me. But, I know there are some people who have the consoles closer, so I can see it being a problem to some. I so think however most of the criticism about it is console war driven more than actual user experience
I have both base consoles on my desk and I wish one of them was as quiet as the other, when you are a few inches away from the things it can become an issue even if you are wearing headphones. In some games it really does sound like a jet turbine. Larger fans that run at lower RPMs is how my PC achieves both cool and quiet, I'm happy sacrificing a little bit of space to get a big fan in there. Bonus points to either manufacturer if they add easily removable dust filters to each fan. Then we can just slide those out from the outside and vacuum them outside of the machines.
Yeah. I know a couple people that keep them on their desk and use their PC monitors, and I can see louder consoles being more distracting. I play my game systems in the living room, so it never bothered me. I do keep my PC pretty quiet with a large 120mm case fan, and then 2 80mm fans on a large heat sink for the PC pointed directly towards the rear vent, and nothing blocking the air flow from the front. I can't even hear it when it's on, although I think my GPU fan is not working well anymore. And I think a dust filter is long overdue. Dust is the number one cause of airflow blockage. Vacuming the PS4 works, and I assume it works on the X1, although I've never had to. My PC case used to have one, but it never seemed to get any dust in it, and I eventually lost it.
One of the things I love about the Xbox this gen is how little noise comes from it - a giant contrast compared to the PS4.
Microsoft has stepped up their hardware game when Phil became leader this gen. The 1X is a masterpiece console so I know the Series X will be as well.
Whilst that is great, I really dont care if you can hear a fan. I have the volume quite loud when gaming
What, in a lack of games sense? EDF 5!
I guess I'm one of the few who never cared about loud fans in systems. I do sit 12ft away from where my console is though.
My og base xbox one is quiet while my base og ps4 sound like a hair dryer.
All I want to know is will it have a power brick?
very impressive. MS definitely had the better quality in terms of hardware this gen. Even the original Xbox one was very quiet and ran cool. All my PS4 consoles have been noisy either thru the fans ramping up or the disc drives at times. Pros being the noisiest. Hope Sony can get the PS5 to be nice and quiet like MS has done.
Just as quiet as a sega genesis.
Thus the whole top being a vent. Heat rises. Good idea, but I would worry about dust.
This is the reason I stopped playing the pro. Won't come out till tlou2.
I heard that now it is called the Xbox instead of the Xbox Series X. I think since they changing things around then they should give us the X shaped Xbox that was used to show off the original xbox before they released it.
The series X news has definitely peaked my interest. I'm a Sony guy however I may be on the fence come launch date time deciding which way to go, no cap. I'm not about to drop 1k so I'm not buying both ps5 and sexbox at once. Exciting times indeed
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