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Is the Senua's Saga: Hellblade 2 teaser truly a taste of next-gen power?

Can Xbox Series X possibly look this good?

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Obscure_Observer1606d ago

Given NT´s track record and talent plus the SX´s power, I have no doubt they´ll achieve such graphics in gameplay.

Jrios3551606d ago (Edited 1606d ago )

I always see the thinking emote as "Oh my GOD!!! This guy is SO! FUCKING! RETARDED!!!"

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ShadowWolf7121606d ago

@Genkins That trailer was pre-rendered, homie. lol

Donnie811605d ago

I think it’s funny people can curse and insult others and mods won’t do a thing but if u barely insult PlayStation you will get a few days ban. You got people with a little power that really aren’t mature enough to handle it.

himdeel1605d ago (Edited 1605d ago )

Um where was the gameplay?!

This is frustrating. It's like know one has a memory past 2 comments or 3 days. Eurocraper. Taste of next gen trailer, there fixed.

I thought we've already discussed this and do discuss this with every console game trailer ever since Killzone 2. Anthem anyone.

And trailers using in game graphics are not gameplay. I expect this in game curated trailer could be done on the base Xbox and PS4.

I saw nothing to be excited about EXCEPT knowing a new Hell lade game is coming. Be excited about something real.

bouzebbal1605d ago

I liked all of their games, except Enslaved.
I haven't played Hell Blade, but i'm planning to i am having a huge backlog of games still...

Unspoken1605d ago

Genkins isn't far off.

https://youtu.be/zKu1Y-LlfN...

Watch until the end and listen to the dev. Just because it's Xbox, which appears to have the best looking game now, so many skeptics have come from behind their PlayStation, like a bright light has lifted the fog from their couch and they can see for the first time in years.

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CaptainHenry9161606d ago (Edited 1606d ago )

I actually thought the first game was a taste of next generation at least in graphics. The game world felt empty though. Hopefully they add more depth to the gameplay. I also hope it's a longer game because the first game felt like a good indie game and the price of the game was only like 30 bucks

nucky641606d ago

it was a AA game that looked very nice - i would not ever say it was "a taste of next generation at least in graphics".

CaptainHenry9161606d ago

"i would not ever say it was "a taste of next generation at least in graphics".

I have a high end PC so to me it did look next gen to me

rainslacker1605d ago

It was a really good looking game. The world itself allowed them to put a lot of focus on stuff close to the character, while draw distances were obfuscated, which allows for a high level of detail in the stuff you really see. I don't know if I'd say it was a taste of next gen graphics though. It lacked most of the things which will push next gen to look significantly better. This gen was more of an upgrade of things from last gen, while next gen is bringing a lot more rendering techniques to hardware which just make things look better by default. Those things, when optimized and used properly, will outclass this gen by a wide margin.

ssj271606d ago

See digital foundry analysis on youtube you can see all the cheat tricks they use to make it look cinematic. 24fps cinema fames Hollywood style but it doesn't work for a video game but it does give cinematic feeling to videos. And many ither cheat tricks. Seen it visuals next to games like death stranding its not that impressive comparing to current gen game that visually looks stunning. Plus its not gameplay Sony and ubisoft 2tc have fooled us manytimes with this "in engine" cinematic they are not real time engine and this is the key . NAUGHTY dogs akso cheat a lot with their cut scenes are in engine but they have the freedom to polish and add better visual to their cinematic compared to the real time gameplay. Sure it does look nice but definitely very possible the impressive thing are the facial animations are really nice compared to most current gen facial animation games. Its obvious that they will look nice better thab current gen but not that impressive. This generation jum wont be bug like others but there will be a jump in many technical stuff . This current gen was already hitting it limits 3 years ago. Next gen cant come soon enough. It will be better and that's good but definitely not big jump like we are used to every next gen. It will be similar jump slightly more than last gen and last gen jump was a let down for me. But i dont see generational jump but just slightly bigger abd better in everything. . Sure they can't do yhe huge jump we deserve because that will make consoles cost at least 2k and gane production cost skyrocket to bigger levels companies cant take. Welcome to capitalism state were we are stuck in old technology because companies wanna charge crazy $$$$ for the last technology piece making it unaffordable to general public

TK-661606d ago (Edited 1606d ago )

Paragraphs. Google it, and learn to use them.

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fr0sty1605d ago

It doesn't even claim to be "in engine" in this video, and you know good and well if it were real-time, in engine, gameplay, etc. they would have plastered it all over this video.

ssj271604d ago

Ohh i hit so many nerves with my comment. I been playing video games since atary and old school prince of percia on pc.
Last concoles i owned. Nintendo 64 ps2 ps3 ps4 and jump from ps2 to ps3 was huge. And same before thatm the jump from ps3 to ps4 was only that the same games went open world and more stables frames by been open world ai didn't advance as a meter of fact i think it went back. Killzone 2 ai is so far the most advanced i have seen. Everything else after that has been downhill. Physic feels that they stayed still or even went downhill its probably because the cell is indeed more powerful than the ps4 replacement and i could feel it Guerrilla Games confirmed this on a interview thatw as posted here not.long ago on n4g. And ps5 does seem like we will get better or more ai and more detail in general sure but they will still be 4k no way aaa games will be 8k maybe until a pro version lunch on probably 4 year. We wont get more open world but more detail and ai in them which is nice but not a big jump. Small jump just like from ps3 to ps4 maybe little bigger but small. Let have a decent mature chat and prove me wrong and no a cgi trailer running at sub 4k at 24fps that been edited to cgi levels doesn't count or prove anything. Fiest next gen game xbox showed was halo and look underwhelming sure is crossgen but they show next gen version of it and seem a let down. Same for godfall games will be better than this bug not.much better. So proff me wrong. I see all day independent artist showing demos of their skill with powerful pc that put nextgen on shame proving that they are holding huge time technology and giving us old technology

Wasabi1604d ago

@Frosty

***"It doesn't even claim to be "in engine" in this video, and you know good and well if it were real-time, in engine, gameplay, etc. they would have plastered it all over this video"***

Yes it does, it clearly says "in engine" in the video title hosted on the official channel.

https://youtu.be/qJWI4bkD9Z...

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fr0sty1606d ago

While not necessarily impossible, there was no mention at all that what we were seeing was in-engine, in-game, or anything but a pre-rendered cutscene. There was no gameplay shown at all, so keep that grain of salt handy.

AngelicIceDiamond1606d ago

MS confirmed it was in Engine.

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porkChop1606d ago

They literally said it was in-engine right before they played the trailer.

UltraNova1605d ago

When they are not explicitly stating what version and what type of the footage shown its usually decked out. I suspect this was indeed an in-engine footage running on PC and as DF has confirmed it was also heavily touched up.

Personally, I dont take offense when they do stuff like that because I know the inevitable real time clips are coming sooner or later.

ShadowWolf7121605d ago

They said in-engine at the beginning of the trailer. However, it is very much still pre-rendered.

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nucky641606d ago

obscure observer - i'm just curious - what games on your "track record" tells you this? hellblade looked good on ps4 - but nothing about it was jaw-dropping.

SwampthingsSon1606d ago

You have way more negative votes because it's no longer a Sony franchise. That's literally all of the negativity.

Ricegum1606d ago

I downvote him due to the fact the guy would say a turd is the most amazing thing ever if it were only on Xbox. The guy should be on MS's payroll, it's embarrassing.

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Rude-ro1606d ago

Can we name a next gen release tease that actually ran as its first showing?
And being this was of no game play, putting in cgi style cutscenes can very easily be done.
But this is Microsoft.
They literally just went a whole gen with Xbox 360 game engines.
They lied about forza all the way up to release week on the Fallon show.
Being Microsoft’s history, I would wait way into release to see if anything is actual fact.

AngelicIceDiamond1606d ago

For starters because as usual you are un informed it's not CG it's confirmed in Engine. They lied about Forza? The hell you goin on about? Lied about 360 engines?? I guess we're just gonna choose not to talk about Sony's 05 E3 where they fabricated everything and it was confirmed so especially Kill zone 2? You're a fanboy so that's different that's right then explain how it'd different?

IRetrouk1603d ago (Edited 1603d ago )

@rude ro, the forza engine has been worked on all gen, it's not a 360 engine anymore, same with halo, gears also used the newer version of unreal, although I do agree we need to wait a see before claiming anything, that includes sony too.

@ angelic
They did lie about forza 5, that was all over n4g at the time, and the articles are still up, use the search engine and you will see the articles comparing what they showed vs what people got, pretty well known to be honest🤷‍♂️

All companys release these types of trailers, it's nothing new, the forza situation is slightly different in that ms used a better looking version to promote it right up to near launch, including the Fallon shows "gameplay" segment. As Far as I'm aware sony hasn't done that with any in house dev, it's ok to be questioning this stuff, it's not a fanboy thing to ask questions, especially if theres proof in the past of faked or touched up footage, again goes for any company not just ms.

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neutralgamer19921606d ago

Shadow

Exactly 😂 and I like the home part

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timotim1606d ago

We will have to wait and see. NT is one of the pioneers in motion and facial capture and has been perfecting it since the early PS3 days. Hell Blade, even with its modest budget was one of the best looking games of this generation. Its not a stretch to imagine what they can do with a vastly improved budget and the world's most valuable company behind them with industry leading resources of their own.

NecrumOddBoy1606d ago

I have played Heavenly Sword, Enslaved, and Hellblade. Ninja Theory is probably the best studio at capturing facial expressions and creating believable conversations. This they are masters of.

timotim1606d ago

Yeah...UE4 has been gearing up for this for a while now.
https://www.youtube.com/wat...

Pixelift1606d ago

Exactly, it was a tech demo more than anything else. Same with all these early trailers.

fr0sty1606d ago

AAA production value, but not AAA gameplay, so you don't get AAA sales. None of their games sold all that great.

TK-661606d ago

@fr0sty

There is no such thing as AAA gameplay. The classification of AAA refers only to production value.

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fr0sty1606d ago

Microsoft isn't even the world's third most valuable company, timotim.

Wasabi1606d ago (Edited 1606d ago )

@fr0sty

***"Microsoft isn't even the world's third most valuable company"***

Microsoft was the number one ranked company in the world by market capitalization Q1- 3 in 2019.
They are currently predicted number two by market cap for Q4 (predicted over taken by Apple) with final figures not available until end of Q4/Financial year.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wi...

Trueflames1606d ago

@frosty wow you seriously dont do research before posting what a moron 😂

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Wasabi1605d ago (Edited 1605d ago )

Comment moved to correct reply line.

NXFather1599d ago

Well you know he is talking about nyse even though he is wrong.

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Fist4achin1606d ago

Not sure, but she sure looks pissed and ready to wreak some havoc!

CaptainCook1606d ago

She does have Mental Health issues though..

fatbastard111606d ago

Yeah i feel like a lot of people completely miss that 'slight" fact. They think sh'es just an angry person actually killing mythical creatures.

Wasabi1606d ago

@fatbastard

***"They think sh'es just an angry person actually killing mythical creatures."***

Goddess of War?

NecrumOddBoy1606d ago

@Wasabi

Saying "Goddess of War" is funny because that title goes to Nariko from Ninja Theory's Heavenly Sword.

Fist4achin1605d ago

I did play through the first and she seems like an opposite from the frail and damaged person who was clawing her way to understanding and vengeance of everything that happened to her and her significant other.

dumahim1605d ago

@2pacalypsenow
Hope that was a joke, if so, I understood that reference.

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telekineticmantis1606d ago

It could be, we just haven't seen in game footage.

Dovergamer1606d ago

It's possible to see this as a plausible step but as many people claim we have not seen the the game play footage where the player interacts with the game assets.

monkey6021606d ago

Sony missed a beat not acquiring Ninja Theory first. Huge benefit to Microsoft

Smoke381606d ago

Monkey602@ Sony already got sucker punch and Sony Santa Monica for Melee combat action games they didn’t need ninja theory.

AspiringProGenji1606d ago (Edited 1606d ago )

Why the disagrees? SSM has already sony converer with Hack n slash genre. Sucker punch with the action super hero games too, although ghost of Tsushima is not super hero this time around

The Wood1606d ago (Edited 1606d ago )

I think so too. I woulda preferred both be acquired. . .insomniac and NT but I'm greedy ***t.

In regards to power. . . Definitely a wait and see. Cut scenes can always look amazing.

MrVux0001606d ago

I have to agree, Ninja Theory has a lot of potential.

Just hope we don't have another Rare situtation at hand...

XVision841606d ago

Pointless acquisition. Sony has a long list of quality 3rd person action adventure games. Microsoft doesn't, makes more sense for Microsoft to shell out the money.

ziggurcat1606d ago

Yeah, I think they should have pulled the trigger on them once the first Hellblade released.

I would love to see Remedy become a member of the Sony family.

Segata1606d ago

Insomniac is a much better get than NT. NT makes technical showpieces with mediocre combat.

Eldyraen1606d ago

Hellblade was realistically the only NT game you could say had mediocre combat imo. It’s combat and puzzles were okay, but repetitive. More on the level of ryse melee combat than their other games in a sense—so it worked, but was minimalist.

But for it being a tiny team and not the whole studio, the combat and puzzles get a pass in HB’s case imo. Their other games’ combat were much more front and center, while still having interesting narratives (if safer than HB’s narrative design).

I’m hoping NT grows it’s combat and puzzles for part 2 though, because I wouldn’t mind some of it being similar but they just need more variation. I’m sure they likely thought the same however, especially as those were it’s primary sore spots for many that would have given feedback or reviews.

Insomniac is still on a different level though. But until Spiderman iInsomniac’s melee combat in particular was pretty simple, and relied on ranged combat typically. And Spidey has a lot of references to use for a basis too which might have helped.

Plus their studio is several times NT’s size, unless NT tripled or quadrupled in size since Hellblade‘S initial release.

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monkey6021606d ago

Wow. Up to now I never quite grasped what the Xbox lads meant when they talked about the immature Sony boys because I'm typically in favour of the Sony side of things myself but I'm getting private messages in response to my comment now and I have to say there's some sad individuals on here!

MrVux0001606d ago

The bigger the community, the higher the probability of toxic behaviour.

HighPlayer281606d ago

Facts some are very weird and have cult like mentality. Things that trigger them is these things.
1. Positive Xbox News
2. Japanese Games Coming to Xbox
3.Studio Acquisitions for Xbox
4.More Consumer Options
Xbox has their share of fanboys as well thats extreme but it seems like most Sony fans do not want the Xbox to get better at all next gen and will downplay every time Microsoft does great moves for Xbox. Its amazing I heard Sony fans say Microsoft needs more Sp AAA games instead of just filler AA and now that they show one its being down played.

timotim1606d ago

The hateful stuff that shows up in my private messages leaves me dumbfounded at times. My reaction is very much like yours..."WOW these guys are serious."

FanboySpotter1606d ago

Same here with the messages. It's weird and sad how some people take these things personally

KickSpinFilter1605d ago

Well you don’t get around much, as there are some major Xberts on here lying and twisting and also just straight out rubbish. Hellblade looked amazing on PS4 and HB2 will be amazing on XSeries

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nucky641606d ago

yea, sony is really hurting for 1st party studios and AAA exclusives - it's a wonder how they sell their consoles - S

monkey6021606d ago

Or! Get this!

Sony had a great relationship with a developer that makes good quality games and even PlayStation Exclusives in the past! A studio in which was struggling financially and looking for support.
A studio I'm a huge fan of and dissapointed I won't be able to play their titles on my chosen platform moving forward.

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ScootaKuH1605d ago

Sony have Insomniac, Guerrilla and Naughty Dog. I reckon each of those trumps Ninja Theory

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Former Deviation Games Devs Have Formed A New Studio At PlayStation To Work On A New IP

Former Deviation Games developers have formed a new studio at Sony Interactive Entertainment in order to work on a brand new PlayStation IP.

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Tacoboto10h ago

Well that's an awesome and very surprising turnaround. Cheers to the new studio and what they'll build!

RaidenBlack7h ago

Likely to continue their FPS project

isarai5h ago

That's..... confusing, so shut down but just reformed and same employer 🤔 sounds like pretty much what happened to Japan Studio basically just being rebranded as Asobi

ocelot074h ago

It is odd one I don't know how business deals work or the law of that kind of stuff. But is it possible Sony reached out and said hey we want you apart of Sony but don't want to purchase you for what ever reason. How about use disband and we will open a studio and hire you guys type of thing. Is that even possible?

isarai4h ago

Maybe it's to void/bypass some contract? I have no clue

VersusDMC38m ago(Edited 33m ago)

I guess the deviation team fell apart and didn't deliver good progress on what they pitched (they overhyped themselves when the team was announced)so Sony shut them down. They regrouped with a new team and a new pitch so Sony is giving them another shot.

And this time they are keeping it quiet to keep pressure down on the team. So people aren't asking everyday what deviation(or whatever the new team is called) is doing.

Edit: Also Sony never owned them. They just ended their partnership with them. Deviation decided to close on their own.

outsider16246m ago

Good point. You know, i was thinking of Days Gone too. They pitch an idea to Sony for Days Gone 2 but Sony didnt like it do they scrapped the whole thing. Maybe if a good pitch came by...they'd reconsider it.

roboteye22m ago

If this was MS they'd be gone.

Goodguy016m ago

Maybe make a smaller game this time?

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Senua's Saga: Hellblade 2 Appears To Have Received A Substantial Visual Upgrade, Comparison Inside

Senua's Saga: Hellblade 2 has received a substantial visual upgrade, and we've put together a comparison that shows the improvements.

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Petebloodyonion10h ago

And still no marketing for this :(

Barlos10h ago

Why market something that isn't designed to be sold?

This has GP rental written all over it.

Petebloodyonion6h ago

Why bother showing me X shows streaming on Disney before my YouTube video since it's a rental?
Why bother showing what movies are coming to a theater?
Actually, how come game companies bothered in them past with advertising games since a lot of ppl used to rent them at BlockBuster?

Here is a simple reason: making ppl Interested in this game by making them subscribe to Gamepass, or buying the game on PC/Xbox, or worse giving them a reason to buy an Xbox console.

Tacoboto10h ago

They just posted a 20+ minute video about Psychosis and how the game portrays that through Senua.

Regardless of what Microsoft is doing (retweeting Ninja Theory is about as low effort as it gets, and Dashboard Dynamic Themes should've come months ago), Ninja Theory themselves are at least trying.

It's sad though. That new video was a really good behind-the-scenes too, and it just came at such a bad time.

Terry_B6h ago

who knows..they might be the next developer that gets shut down..6-12 months after Hellblade 2 is released.

Tankbusta4010h ago

How much marketing do games really need these days? People that play games know when its coming out. I really think the days of the constant tv ad etc are going the way of the Dodo. What scares me more is the lack of "previews" on big video game websites, it only got a few on April 4th and then nothing since.

RNTody9h ago(Edited 9h ago)

Wow Tankbusta40 how out of touch with reality can you be, mate. Do you think companies are insane to spend millions on having giant billboards for big releases and TV adverts and superbowl slots and round the clock PR and interviews? Most of the people who buy games aren't on gaming forums like these knowing the exact release dates!

This isn't being marketed because Microsoft isn't selling the product, it's a Game Pass day one and they don't throw their weight behind games like this.

Hugodastrevas9h ago

Wait, this game's actually still being made?

Hugodastrevas5h ago

Clearly, because there's tons of promotion about this game everywhere! /S

Hedstrom9h ago

Ninja Theory is gonna be MS next cut!

Crows908h ago

Most likely. Otherwise more people would know about the game....most people don't...it'll drive some in Gamepass but that's probably going to be it.

Terry_B6h ago

yupp..most likely just a matter of time.

more or less every studio that got bought by them was killed later.

Walalon6h ago

It's sad that Ninja Theory can update graphics, lighting, made a marvelous game but still the sword of Damocles moving up their heads... After Tango Game works every one that works on any studios under the wing of MS are probably having a Plan B looking for another place to go thanks to that stupid idea of even if you create a jewel they can axe you...

DarXyde1h ago

I mean, we'll have to see.

What I find problematic was Bond really saying that each case for success metrics with different studios is different. However, the studios recently closed seemed surprised when it happened so... Is Microsoft not telling the studios what their expectations are?

It's entirely feasible, but I suspect Starfield didn't really move the needle and Bethesda is safe... But Tango, who made a game that was very well received with a smaller budget gets closed?

We really don't understand what they want. It doesn't help that they shadow dropped HFR with no marketing and I would say outperformed any expectations for it. But somehow, that wasn't enough?

In truth, we don't really know what the criteria for closure is. Specific engagement metrics? Mean play time? Some internally developed index to assess some engagement-to-budget ratio?

We don't know. I think the concern for Ninja Theory is valid, but sink or swim at MGS seems to be a moving target.

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Nacho_Z6h ago

The new pics look more orange but that's about it.

glenn19794h ago(Edited 4h ago)

aha just like death stranding

Skuletor1h ago

It's been over 4 years since that game released. I wonder if Ninja Theory will even be around 4 years from now, maybe not even 4 months, lol.

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