Matt Booty outlines Xbox's commitment to first-party studios and get our hopes up over the Project Scarlett launch line-up.
Microsoft can't even deliver one worthwhile exclusive all generation, how are they expecting to deliver one every 3-4 months?
@Kingthrash360 gets it. DWYD
@lellkay "@Kingthrash360 gets it. DWYD" Kingthrash360 KNOWS that Xbox is gonna deliver on games big time, so all he can really do is to sang the old song "Xbox only has Forza, Halo and Gears", as if 9 new studios means nothing. Smh.
😂😂 yall mad? Obscure you KNEW all generation MS was gunna deliver....but what happened...noe you talking about next gen when they showed absolutely nothing? 9 studios mean nothing when the talent level is so low. Yall mad at me, but I been telling yall for years xbox wasn't gunna deliver. They still haven't and they dont plan to. Why would they when yall accept them how they are today? Why spend money to make better games when you already like the mediocre games that come already?
@lellkay "Microsoft can't even deliver one worthwhile exclusive all generation, how are they expecting to deliver one every 3-4 months?" Phil Spencer made Xbox Game Studios bigger with the acquisition/creation of 9 new first party studios! Total of 15 first party studios! Do the math! I´m sure can figure out how they plan on release those games on your own. ;)
@Obscure_Observer adding more studios means nothing if they don't know how to use them. What good is adding more, when they have proved they can't produce anything worthwhile with the ones they have? There is more to having a first party roster, than simply buying studios and saying "look we bought studios!!!" it's about having a vision and managing the studios properly. Microsoft have proved ALL generation they have no idea how to do this. Not saying they can't fix this, but why should just suddenly put trust in them, they need to prove they have even an inkling of an idea to us first before we start cheer leading them. I'm telling you now, Microsoft have bought all these studios simply to pump out gamepass filler crap, quantity over quality... stuff like Bleeding Edge and Grounded... they have less and less interest in big AAA exclusives and they prove it over and over.
For one that’s ridiculous and two they now have the most first party studios in gaming so content isn’t gonna be a problem. They are investing in gaming on a scope that Sony or Nintendo couldn’t dream of competing.
@Donnie81 You literally didn't read what I said. Quantity means nothing when they have proved they have no idea how to manage their studios and IPs.
Sony and NIntendo couldn't dream of competing? Didn't MS just up their studios to the same number as Sony has? Or MS has 1-2 more now or something. As far as I can tell, Sony still has more top tier and top rated studios, and Nintendo still pumps out 2-3 high quality games a year, with both having GOTY contenders year after year. MS hasn't had a GOTY contender all gen, but somehow, Sony and Nintendo can't dream of competing? Sure....that makes sense. Just because MS brought a lot of studios doesn't mean they're investing in gaming on some huge scope the likes of which we have never seen. They're looking to up their game library, which is great, but don't over-exaggerate what it is just to bring the competition down. The article talks about bringing a new game every 3-4 months. That's great, but if they're just these indie style or mid-tier games, which is likely, is it really MS investing on a scope that Sony or Nintendo can't compete with? Think about it for a minute. Sony and Nintendo both get lots of content that Xbox never will. They have indie and mid-tier content in spades, so while MS is competing with 3rd party content that they'll never get, the fan boys get the chance to say how MS is killing it, but they are just bringing themselves up to the competitions level.
You guys really think it's that simple huh. . . . . There's more to it than studio numbers but that is a step in the right direction.
Forza horizon. Does that count?
@LordJamar I own an Xbox One and have since launch. I'm just not afraid to criticize a poor product and poor direction. Who's the real fanboy?
Ah Forza. The yearly rehash. Not the best example there Brian.
@ricegum. Fact: horizon comes out every 2 years and has been very well received. If you don't know that. I don't know if we can trust anything you say. But, please tell me what console racing game is better?
@alvira81 is absolutely bang on the buck. Its so refreshing to see someone who can see right through gamepass.
See it all depends what you are into. For me forza Horizon and Forza MS have been my 2 most played racing games and Grid coming a close 2nd. SoT has been alot of fun with my friends OK its not the best game in the world but then again it's a really fun MP game and that's all that matters. Cup head was also alot of fun. Halo 5 lost its way but again tmcc had kept my fps needsbunder wraps as I feel all fps games this gen have felt under par. KI is my most played fighting game to love how its evolved. Gears 5 I also really enjoyed and feels like gears is back on top again. Really enjoyed QB loved what they did with the story and for me is better than the new one just released on MP. (forgot the name haha) It is a matter of your own tast though. For me this gen across both Microsoft and Sony have felt half done compared to what we had last gen for me the most fun console with the games I have liked the most has been the wiiu. But as I said each to there own. Some will agree others will not. That said due to life getting in the way and this gen not grasping me like the last one I've moved from consoles to pc gaming as fits my needs more.
With the amount of studios they have working, they could all definitely put themselves in a development cycle that could see a new game every 3 or 4 months. Now will they be worthwhile? That's up to the individuals own taste.
Big promises like always, hopefully this time they deliver unlike every single other time.
Those studio acquisitions got some people shook! Thing is, after Days Gone, Shenmue and Death Stranding, people are running out of ammo in their arsenal to deride any games that now 'wont be to their taste'. Its going to be a fun next gen
'Now will they be worthwhile? That's up to the individuals own taste' Truth. The more you have the more chances of a hit 'Those studio acquisitions got some people shook!' Lol. . . Some people have been shook about xbox all generation right. ! Lol
First they ask for content, when the content is on it's way they begin to trash it. You wonder why true gamers dont take keyboard warriors serious.
True gamer? Is that like True4K? People question the nature of the quality. Not them saying they'll do it....although there is some of that too. MS has been saying all gen they're going to have games. MS has said all gen how awesome they are, along with their fan boys. MS has said all gen how awesome they're going to be. The games they just showed don't really scream huge AAA big name franchises. People question MS because they've been pretty crap all gen. It's not the keyboard warriors fault that "true gamers" can't call out MS when it's prudent, or not just give them the benefit of the doubt because some MS exec says so. MS did it to themselves, and it'll be a while before people can reasonably say that the criticisms are no longer justified.
@Automatic79 We asked for high quality content, and they have failed to deliver that time after time. Nintendo and Sony smash it out the ball park year after year with GOTY contenders most years. Microsoft pump out let down after let down. Stop trying to play the "I'm a true gamer" card. You ain't a true gamer if your happy to consume low quality garbage instead of expecting the best. It puts you on par with a casual mobile gamer who plays low quality trash. Get out of here.
@lellkay Umm because they have more studios genius....
@AngelicIceDiamond I don't know HOW MANY times I'm going to have to explain this. Adding more studios means nothing if they don't know how to use them. What good is adding more, when they have proved they can't produce anything worthwhile with the ones they have? There is more to having a first party roster, than simply buying studios and saying "look we bought studios!!!" it's about having a vision and managing the studios properly. Microsoft have proved ALL generation they have no idea how to do this. Not saying they can't fix this, but why should just suddenly put trust in them, they need to prove they have even an inkling of an idea to us first before we start cheer leading them. I'm telling you now, Microsoft have bought all these studios simply to pump out gamepass filler crap, quantity over quality... stuff like Bleeding Edge and Grounded... they have less and less interest in big AAA exclusives because the incentive isn't there for gamepass. They want quick releases and potential repeat monetisation, how else will they maintain gamepass?
@lellkay I can take apart your entire argument *cracks knuckles. "There is more to having a first party roster, than simply buying studios and saying "look we bought studios!!!" it's about having a vision and managing the studios properly. Microsoft have proved ALL generation they have no idea how to do this." Considering this the most studios MS has ever gotten in in all of Xbox life time where is the proof that MS can't manage these studios? 6 years back MS never had this many studios to even judge how they'll manage its studios now so you don't know at all. "Adding more studios means nothing if they don't know how to use them. What good is adding more, when they have proved they can't produce anything worthwhile with the ones they have?" Ok MS will use the studios like how they use Turn 10, 343, Rare and Coalition. Gears released a few months ago with great reviews. Forza some how gets better and better with bi annual releases. Halo releases next year, SOT is still being supported while Ever Wilds got announced on top of an undiscolsed new AAA project from Rare. Not sure what you're talkin about. "I'm telling you now, Microsoft have bought all these studios simply to pump out gamepass filler crap, quantity over quality... stuff like Bleeding Edge and Grounded... they have less and less interest in big AAA exclusives because the incentive isn't there for gamepass. They want quick releases and potential repeat monetisation, how else will they maintain gamepass?" This old tired argument. Listen carefully MS has, NT, PG, TI and Obsidian. 4 new AAA studios on top of 343, The Coalition, Turn 10 and Rare. That's 8 total the rest are AA studios. So logically MS can pump out AA games that could be highly rated as Ori. Since AAA's take much longer to make why not have studios release AA games while they're still hard at work with AAA's? GP filler is a myth dead old argument because it logically makes no sense. How bout we concern troll something new or make up another excuse outta thin air now. We have creative trolls and fanboys I'm sure they'll find something to complain about.
"Considering this the most studios MS has ever gotten in in all of Xbox life time where is the proof that MS can't manage these studios? 6 years back MS never had this many studios to even judge how they'll manage its studios now so you don't know at all." You know, Angelic, I remember back in the previous generation you were quite level headed and articulate, even if I did disagree with you on most things, but now you're thrown all reason and any kind of intelligent thinking out the window. Tell me, if I'm jungling 5 plates on sticks and you can see I'm visibly struggling, rushing to keep the plates spinning, one of the plates even falls off and breaks, what in the ever loving hell would possess you to thinking I'd do better if you gave me 10 more plates to manage? You ask for proof MS can't manang games. How about you open you're bloody eyes, smh. Sea of thieves, crack down 3, quantum break are just a few games off the top of my head that launched poorly. And ms haven't had a single game that come anywhere close to a GOTY contender. Hell, it was only after MS became a laughing stock meme that they started buying up studios. But your precious MS have made yet another empty promise, so that means you need to blindly believe them and foolishly defend them from any and all rational and logical criticism. And if that means you have say some really stupids and illogical things... so be it.
@Captain from your first paragraph you're parroting the same stuff I've been seeing on here forever now. You're saying no matter what MS does they're gonna mess up like it's factual or written in the stars. That's a personal negative mindset that YOU have I can't argue against something that you feel personally about. That's literally a you a problem. Not a Me problem or MS problem but a you and you only. Because what you're saying us MS will fail no matter what they do every single thing they do will fail. That's in your crazy head your issues and problems that unique to only you. "You ask for proof MS can't manang games." You're not slick I said STUDIOS not games. MS has never had that many studios in the past ever. You said laughing stick meme when they bought up studios. Again you live in a separate reality where there's empty promises because you never acknowledge what MS is doing while the media has praised MS for fixing its 1st party studios. That's not in reality that's in your sick little mind. Fever dreaming that every single thing is the same with MS. You might wanna get help and fast.
I havent seen any PS4 exclusives, other that Uncharted 4, that i'm personally interested in. Sony has abandoned almost every franchise of theirs that I used to love playing on PS3. On the other hand I have enjoyed Gears 4, Halo 5 and Quantum Break. Different strokes for different folks.
Project scarlett isn't this gen. Comparing current gen to a gen no person knows outcomes to just shows who the fanboys here really are. That's like saying "who would trust ps5 with all the hacking that happened on sony?" No one knows just how secure ps5 will be no one knows how much content any next gen console will pump out
We don't mind waiting a bit longer focus on quality over quantity please. With game pass I feel like ms wants to release as many game as fast as they can which could mean less quality. But I will give benefit of the doubt to Phil and ms because we want more quality AAA games
I'm guessing they will lower the standards.
You're cute. Don't hate the messenger...
Even if they are retreads, Forza Horizon says hi as it gets better with every release. Let's also not pretend Gears and Halo aren't also giant names; and with Gears now being at the top of its game, and Halo, hopefully, returning to form. I want more new IPs. I'm hopeful what with all their new studios. Hell; I'm highly excited at what an Outer Worlds with MS money could be. They dropped the ball this gen, but let's not pretend they haven't put out good games.
Were you not paying attention when they said they now have 15 studios all cranking?
Maybe in your opinion. I've liked state of decay and gears and sea of thieves and the forza game. To me they were worthwhile. Stating something as fact when it is your opinion does not make you seem fanboyish at all /s
Well the expectation would be based on clear and hard lessons learned throughout the Xbox One lifecycle. Do you know how we know they have clearly noticed their fuck ups? The studio's they have acquired, and the studio they started, and the studio's they are continuing to look into buying. Reiterating the same point everyone already knows that Xbox had a really shit generation is tiresome and old. Almost everyone is aware of Xbox dropping the ball this gen.
Three indie games, Forza. Three indie games, Crackdown 4. Three indie games, Halo ReRemastered. Three indie games, Scalebound remembrance demo.
When PS4 launched it had mostly indie games and that was ok. But, now indie games are bad?
Itsmebrian I'm sure you were one of those Xbox fans who tore into Sony for showing support for indie developers. So now Indies are cool?
Yeah, it was so ok, that xbox fans called it "the indiestation 4". That's how ok it was.
^you three are remembering things your own way. Just to be clear, indie games are fine and the whole mocking the PS4 was over their decision to finally embrace indie games when it released unlike their luke warm attitude towards them on the PS3. Keep in mind the 360 was fully embracing indie games long before the PS3 or even PS4 did. So MS has always welcomed indie games openly. Games are games regardless how big or how small the team/budget/development time involved.
Well said @itsmebryan
@Darth Exactly, Sony was pushing the <3 indie marketing tour during the beginning of of PS4 and only seemed dedicated because of the limiting offerings during the first couple of years. But then ultimately dropping their campaign (pub fund) in favor of VR games which they even admitted. I do like reading revisionist history that has once again been changed to fit the multiverse though.
Sony had indie programs all the way back on the PS1 and PS2. For those that know imports, their Simple series was an indie programmed that helped publish the games on disc. Some of those also made their way to the US through other publishers. Their initial PS3 indie program was antiquated from their past programs, but it was still there. Since then, they've been up and down with how they support indies, but they've never been bottom of the barrel. They promoted indies more at the start of the gen, but the overall support they give on a business level has remained fairly constant since last gen. MS indie programs have been all over the place since they came into fruition. Never really terrible, sometimes not that great, pretty good right now. It wasn't mostly indie games at the launch of the PS4. If that's the case, the same can be said for Xbox, because they shared almost all the same games. Yet, somehow, Sony is the only one that got labelled as IndieStation, despite them having more high profile games in the first two years than MS did. MS front loaded the launch, but they went through their own dry spell, and seems they forgot how to make it rain.
Infamous and killzone say hello
Thanks rain for the knowledge Those early years seem to have spore one of the games of the gen and I much prefer a quiet portion of a gen than a quiet majority of a gen. Non indie games that scored higher than many of Microsofts games throughout this gen were released in that quiet period. Explain? Darth. Sony always had indies they just never put them at the forefront. Microsoft had some smart timed and full exclusives in the indie segment but choosing to forget Sony had indies too is just as asinine. They improved this gen and marketed indies better and were ridiculed for it despite their ability to release indies as well as well as non indie games. Sometimes you just can't win
Lol gangsta is right and Sony themselves admitted they used indies for their own goal and have put VR as their poster child. PS <3 Indies. Dont forget that campaign of Sony that the Playstation Nation rallied behind, when it was MS with the 360 that started off truly supporting indies only to now laugh off indies... So why are indies actually scoffed at? Because they are low budget titles? Some indies have some of the most imaginative gameplay. If you guys can give props to a game involving a pregnant man walking around putting ladders down I'm sure you can room in your heart for some indie love :)
I wish Microsoft would release 4-5 great exclusive in a row before talking like they've figured it out. They talk like they run the industry when they're barely participating in it. It's time to execute the game plan and stop talking about it.
In a row as in one to two great 1st party games per year. If they can manage that then they can go ahead and release one every 3-4 months. Small steps MS, small steps.
I think he means just waiting until they've released a few great exclusives over a period of time. Not necessarily 4-5 in rapid succession. MS has not earned enough trust to just take them at their word IMO. They're showing signs of doing what people say they need to do, but they haven't actually achieved it yet. I guess it's about all they can do now though, given that they're trying to salvage a respectable next gen. It's what they've been doing most of this gen anyways, but it comes to a point of show, don't tell, which ironically is where they were at 3-4 years ago as well. MS really hasn't achieved anything yet, except buying some studios, but the results of that haven't really been shown for them to have so much hubris in their words.
@SkippyPaccino "It's time to execute the game plan and stop talking about it." Plan is already in motion as Phil Spencer had confirmed that he´ll continue to acquire and create new first party studios. Not to mention that Xbox Game Studios has been hiring big names from gaming industry in an almost weekly basis; so, to assume that the quality of Xbox´s games will be equal or worst than before, is just stupid and delusional.
Plan is already in motion you say? I've heard that so many times this generation and last. Guess we'll have to wait and see
@Skippy your wish will come true. In 2020 Xbox Studios Delivering This Xbox Ori 2 Will of Wisp Bleeding Edge Minecraft Dungeons Wasteland 3 Grounded Tell Me Why Gears Tactics Wasteland Remastered BattleToads Flight Simulator Cross Fire X Psychonauts 2 Halo Infinite
Is this going to be the "Best lineup of all time" number 5.
Expected 2020 Forza 8
They Said the same thing about the xbox one.
The difference here is that they put their money where their mouth is and acquired a bunch of studios.
They acquired studios during the original Xbox and 360 years too. But you know.
@Atticus What? Did they really acquire anything to this scale? Please come out with a better retort.
I think they should perhaps worry about quality before focus on such quantity. But I guess one is better than neither.
@Obscure Well think about it.. Nearly all games that are out for Xbox are out for PC. If you have a good gaming PC, why would you choose to buy it on Xbox?
Kuduhater: "Me too! But im not some pathetic tantrum throwing toddler that has an emotional need to hate a brand! Thanks!" Also Kuduhater: "Well considering ori and inside are better than any dull oscar bait games sony dish out, ill take an indie game from them over talentless movie games any day :)"
Brave. . . .lol. . What a shot Kuduhater. . . . . .what a hypocrite smdh
2020 here we come! https://imgur.com/cxu9VFQ https://imgur.com/GUVjmaB All confirmed releases will be Game Pass February: Ori and the Will of the Wisps March: Bleeding Edge April: Minecraft Dungeons May: Wasteland 3 Spring 2020: Grounded Summer 2020: Tell me Why Holiday 2020: Halo Infinite TBA 2020: Psychonauts 2, Microsoft Flight Simulator, Wasteland Remaster, Battletoads, Gears Tactics, Phantasy Star Online 2, Crossfire X, Tears Of Avia, The Last Night, Tunic, Sessions, Phoenix Point, Everreach: Project Eden, KartRider: Drift #AllEyesOnXbox
The only game I like on your list is Ori. I'm doing a wait and see approach with Halo:Infinite. Wasn't a fan of Wasteland 2
So everything you listed I will be able to play on my PC. Thanks! #NoMoreExclusives
Exactly, Microsoft doesn't care that you buy the console, they just want you in the ecosystem. That will be more evident in this next gen if it isn't already. If it makes you feel better to say xbox doesn't have exclusives, go for it. Nobody is listening anyway.
And so what lol? At least now you dont have to pretend to not be interested in playing them.