Kojima’s writing is clumsy, yet somehow he’s delivered a great game
I haven't finished it, but it seems engaging right now.
Kojima was never known for engaging or believable story telling, which is why I question his fanatics, but his games are enjoyable to play.
I'm loving the game so far. Like Kojima said, it isn't for everyone.
I don't understand why People can't just leave it at that....?
Same goes for those that love the game though. Why can't they leave it at not everyone will love it like they do? Why must negative reviews be bias/clickbait/dudebro?
Because it’s not a rooty tooty shoot em in the booty game. If it isn’t high octane action it sucks apparently.
Legendary_N Fans of the game, have been saying it's not for you/everybody for Months now, they aren't making videos directed to you, they at most respond to People who are making definitive claims or saying People who like the Game are in a Cult. A Guy just suggested I'm having Oral Sex with Sony, just because I like a Game are you serious?
Because this is a gaming forum... Where we talk about games... And sometimes argue... It's literally what the site is designed for... Also, I hope you're taking that line to the people screaming at reviewers for their opinion.
Because all these kojimaphiles would attack any other game with the same mundane gameplay mechanic yet this one is praised because an overrated "artist" made it.
@MeteorPanda Well at it's base it's an Adventure game Game: ad·ven·ture /adˈven(t)SHər,ədˈven(t)SHər/ engage in hazardous and exciting activity, especially the exploration of unknown territory. "they had adventured into the forest" And it had probably the best Adventure Mechanics I've ever seen. Remember 2 years ago when Breath of the Wild came out, and everyone raved about how you can climb anywhere as long as you plan out the stamina well. Well this has that to another level. Then you have the Social Strand elements that make you feel like you're getting places you shouldn't be, but someone left a rope or ladder or Bike and as soon as you look like all hope is lost, your being chased by ghosts or enemies you see a ladder in the distance, you run there and just make it out. I just love the unpredictability.
"why can't people just leave it at that?" You're the same person that cries when journalists review that game low because they DIDN'T ENJOY IT. It "wasn't for them". Hypocrites.
Zumlauf14 You're a liar, show me. I haven't left a negative comment on a review yet.
No game is for everyone, but this one is pretty great, doesn't feel niche like that journos are making it out be, and I'm someone that mostly plays only Jrpgs. AAA games don't have to be dudebro action games, honestly, I'd rather see them branch out a bit.
what exactly do you like of it tho?
I love the hate...honestly tho u guys can't really say this is good rite? It's impossible I'd be pissed if I spent money on this. I'm still watching this dude walk and balance and check his inventory.
It's something differnt from your usual shootfest and it's not good because of that? Why are you keep watching it if you hate it so much? Move on than, play or watch a game you like man!
Im not watching it anymore...And definitely not buying it
@Tecate, It's not everyones cup of tea and that is ok.
different =/= good. "It DoEsN't HaVe GuNs So It'S uNiQUe". He never said it "wasn't good because it wasn't a shooter". That"s your fanboy defense mechanism. It's not "GOOD" for the exact reason its game mechanics are being labeled "mundane, tedious, borring". Even from high scored reviews that are simple kojima PEEPEE rides. I can think of countless games that was "different from your usual shooter" but ended up being complete garbage.
@zumlauf14 Maybe read his other comments before you go on a rant. Again, if you don't like the game, that is fine. I never said everyone has to but many people want this to be more action oriented and that means more shooting.
Still watching? Your dumb as fuk
This is probably the worst troll account I’ve ever seen. I guess racing games suck. All you do is drive in circles.
Nope. Sometimes you can turn right. :)
I’m a huge fan of Twin Peaks and shows and movies like it so I love this sort twisted storytelling, but it’s definitely not for everyone.
Ok maybe that's where I'm (as an old gamer) missing it. I want action and I haaate inventory contol. Example I wish Diablo 3 just auto upgraded my equipment instead of pausing etc...And although metal gear 1 and 2 were faves back in the day I couldn't tell u what the story was.
But man, noone cares if you like something or not. You came to the wrong place to look for validation :P
Auto update my equipment, ffs pls stop.
You’re not an old gamer. The way you present yourself is more childish than my nephew. He’s 13.
If you're an "old gamer" shame on you for the way you conduct yourself as an adult. If you're a child (far more likely) your parents should be ashamed of the way you're speaking to people.
Old gamers are supposed to like stuff in this game. All the kids like action shooters...
As an old gamer myself(43), you really give all us old gamers a bad name. You behave like a child, and are nothing but antagonistic. Maybe you're like the old guy in Up..just hating on everything. But, at least he understood basic grammar....plus, he was kind of cute...which you aren't really. An older gamer probably wouldn't be so hell bent on getting people to believe that they were wrong for wanting to like a game because of their own opinion of the game. Here's a pro troll tip. You don't have to pretend to be anything to troll people. Just have to be believable. You just aren't believable. You don't even attempt to appear moderate. The best trolls are those you don't know are trolling. Keep practicing. You'll figure it out when you're older. Then, one day, you'll realize how much of your life you wasted trolling others for nothing other than to get some thrills out of antagonizing them. Kind of like a drug addict feels good for shooting up.
I love Twin Peaks but I'm on the sceptical side of the fence when it comes to DS. It's not a comparison I've seen before what is it about it that makes it like TP? Just general weirdness or something more specific?
Lots of symbolism and abstrction. Yet also grounded with mundane moments. Lots of themes and ideas thrown into the mix but not necessarily cohesive therefore resulting in different interpretations and levels of enjoyment. But where Twin Peaks keeps people engaged through its craziness it seems Death Stranding stumbles, or so many critics say. In my past experience with David Lynch he always pulls it off but in my experience with Kojima it's mostly successful with many times that aren't. IMO Kojima makes his games too long and therefore recycles gameplay or burns out on ideas before the game is over. That's why PT was the perfect game. It was just the right length for Kojima to get his idea across. Not to little not too much. I think Death Stranding would have been less polarizing if Kojima had cut down the length before it got too repetitive or delayed the game to add more fresh ideas to keep it from going stale.
from what i've played, the story sure as hell isnt terrible.
Less a game, more an experience. Boring, yet compelling at the same time.
hmm so far without playing the game i feel like this game is about a Dead World thats coexisting with the living in a fractured demension string theory, and babys have more control or can see in to both demensions, but babys are rare in the future so this fedex walker needs to deliver this baby across the country for the doctors to find a way to close the dead demension, and the reason they cant use a planes or helicoptors to get there is because theres aliens from a 3rd demension attacking anything that makes noise and the aliens are blind and Casino Royal Guy is possessed by an evil demon and wants to let the dead more into our world
I think you're right
Spoilers******** So close, but your baby theory is off and the BTs aren't aliens, from what I understand they're mirror type souls from a multivese.
Wow just a wild Guess from what i gathered from the trailers, thought i was Dead Wrong , thanks for letting me know how off i was
Lol You're welcome. It was a crazy good guess. You were dead right on almost all of it.
Been playing it like 5 hours straight,.. the gameplay loop is really addictive,.. All in all it is a game ass game,.. knows exactly which buttons to push,..Find it remarkably fun
User reviews on meta tell the true story... 60% rating or so. Terrible game that fanboys are protecting. Im a hideo kojima fan. But also i see his his bs. Like mgs5 was great at first then you realised it was the same thing over and over in am empty world. And totally unfinished game missing chapter 3. DS is the most overhyped dissatisfying game this gen. People are protecting kojima and sony (yes im aware pc is coming). They are unwilling to admit they backed this junk game and said it was game of this generation when it fell flat on its face. Almost every review that scored it positive said it was quite boring and all walking. But they scored it good because all of you fanboys refused to allow anything less. Breath of fresh air... ya ok. I smell something else
Keep spilling that garbage. Keep it up. Feel better? Does it help you sleep at night.
All the user reviews are almost all 0s or 10s. That's just fanboys and haters. Doesn't mean anything really.
Did you play the game dude. The metacritics reviews you are talking are made by people that didnt play it and its really easy to see that. The generic walking simultator is something that only someone that didnt play the game can say. What i cant understand is why all the hate of some gamers. This gen is already done, with crushing numbers. This is another new IP that wil be a hit no matter how much hate and trolls try to damage. Do you know what is a new IP that is smash it? There are companies that are tryng since launch (2013) and still dont have ONE.
User scores on meta are ALWAYS unreliable. Sadly you don't have to verify a purchase before reviewing a game. May sound strange but I always look at the verified purchaser reviews on Amazon if I'm on the fence about a game.
"Almost every review that scored it positive said it was quite boring and all walking" Except, that isn't actually true. Only a handful of the positive reviews actually stated that. That's how you know when people are parroting a false narrative, versus those who actually read those reviews. And, I wouldn't believe anyone who says they've read all of them, or even most of them.
Great walking simulation....
The story so far is amazing. There's a lot of subtext and metaphors, but they're not very cryptic. You don't have to be a genius to understand it. Stupid article, of course it's Polygon.
The Story is one of the best parts of the game, but maybe if we had some kind of bad guy that you need to kill that would be amazing for you. Something really groundbreaking. Never done before. A evil man or women or both that whats to rule earth. Much better.
I don't know how I feel about the narrative yet,.. but I am enjoying gameplay loops immensely,.. Just traversal is fun as heck. It is something else,.. the dopamine you get just by navigating the environment is really special.
i hate articles that state something as an fact in the title.
Im not against so called walking simulators, I loved everybody's gone to the rapture and firewatch but this is dull and chore like, I can appreciate the graphical fidelity on show but that's about it.
I'm enjoying the Hell outta it! I don't need EVERY game or movie or tv show to follow the beat by beats most do! It's like I'm playing through a cool HBO series or something. Not for everyone but for those who do dig it it's a helluva ride! I keep seeing "Kojima" fanatics but hell I've never played part 2 or finished 5 but I'm digging the Hell outta DS! Anyway I hope this "outrage " is here when it hits PC. I'm sure then it'll be so awesome and the visuals will be cutting edge. One last thing if DS is a walking simulator, is Mario a jumping simulator or is GOW a rage simulator?!?!
I was on the fence but traded in some shit to Gamestop and got it for 25 bucks. I’m only a couple hours in but the story has captured my interest. It’s a slow start for sure. I’ve only needed the controller for about 20 min lol
This game is a view into Kojima's state of mind (like the movie being john malkovich) as a game developer who paving the way for game as an art form, representing through its' game play and story. He has an idea/message he hold dear to his chest (represent as a baby that Sam carries with him in DS ), that he wants to deliver; hence the entire game play revolves around delivering packages. The process of delivering requires many things like planning, balancing, materials, effort, time, work loads, and managing expectations, etc...The journey can be daunting, mundane, lonely, boring, and often time feel like a "slog". You will face with many obstacles like the harsh terrains, failure (falling while balancing these packages), inability to delivers (broken/lost packages), dealing with opposing views/perspective (adversaries in DS) that try to hinder your process, suffering, lost (those that dies leave a hole in your heart just like the crater in DS), and even giving into your own demons (getting drags in by BTs that you have to fight your way out). Even when things going smoothly or you can see the destination ahead, (hover craft, bikes, trucks, road, shelter, drop off point, etc...), things changes (ex: time fall rain), as it should in reality, you get thrown right back to the beginning with even more challenges to tackle (example: losing everything while you have to cross an even greater mountain range). The journey will test your patient, require your undying determination to deliver that goal (like checking on the BB from time to time) and perseverance. This is the reason for his intentional gameplay. Even though it may feels like Kojima himself was alone in all of this, he had helps from his connection with others along this journey (game engine, the budget, times, actors, etc...), which represent through the MP portion of the game (things that other build or left them in the world to help you on the way like road, shelter, hot spring bath, ladder so sam can climb, and even cheering him on as he fights his demon, etc...). Though some may back stab you as well. If you dont try to keep your connection or appreciate what others did for you, it will be gone (like require material to keep things given to you or else it will disappear). Games (death stranding, RDR2, BOTW, Witcher, sea of thieves, etc...) that stick to their goals or visions, no matter how many criticism they may face, are worth playing imo. With that said, I dont see how gamers (who couldn't even pass RDR2 prologue, complaining about it spacing, it forced linearity in story telling even though that was deliberately to tell a story that developer wanted to tell, or complaining about weapon deterioration, stamina mechanic and empty world in BOTW, without exploring anything) would suddenly praising this game like 2nd coming of the savior (DS took everything that these gamers complain about and push them to the extreme deliberatedly). Strangely, many of those gamers are dominantly presented right here on n4g.
Remember kids, if there isnt pew pew, then it is sucky sucky. I can understand if Death Stranding doesnt cater to your low IQ. Let people who enjoy story driven experiences, enjoy them and move on with your life. Go play Fortnite.
nah, the story is good
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