The Outer Worlds' Sales Are Exceeding Expectations According to Take-Two

During Take-Two's financial conference call for investors and analysts, the company's executives talked about The Outer Worlds and more.

[Jin_Sakai]

With the majority of sales being on PS4. At least in the UK.

“78% of The Outer Worlds’ Physical UK Sales Made on PS4”

https://www.playstationlife...

[GaboonViper]

78%....😱😱

[THC CELL]

Ouch even with the power of game pass

[ElementX]

You can't compare physical to sales to game pass, that's apples and oranges

[Abriael]

Game pass isn't counted in "Physical UK sales."

I thought that much would be obvious. Naive of me.

[ScoreBunnie]

Physical sales, what a joke.

[GTgamer]

@L7CHAPEL
You paid for gamepass sooooooo you did pay for something and why do guys keep acting like Xbox exclusives were flying off the shelfs before gamepass shiiiid let's be real we all know exactly why xone exclusives were added to gamepass day one 😒

[BizarroUltraman]

Playstation owners had no choice but to pay full price at retail and buy more physical than digital. or at least that what these site trolls like to tell us. why y'all acting surprised it selling on Playstation like that.

[Specter229]

Ateast you tried.

[cyber_daemonx]

Obsidian will be so pleased at the losses with ms giving it away on gamepass lol.

[Jin_Sakai]

@L7CHAPEL

“Yes 78% on PS4: because we didn't have to pay for anything”

Hahaha hahaha....

You laugh because you don’t pay for a game and support the developer? Pathetic.

[Malacath]

@cyber_daemonx

Believe it or not developers and publishers benefit from having their game on Game Pass.

Publishers get paid a large amount of money by Microsoft and developers benefit by more people playing their games.

In the case of Obsidian though, they are owned by Microsoft now so having their game do well on Game Pass means Microsoft is more likely to ask them to make a sequel.

[timotim]

😂😂😂

Someone who clearly doesn't understand how this works.

[rainslacker]

@L7

So....I'm curious. Not to really make any comment on the content of your statement even though you've argued against me in the past when I said people who use game pass aren't as likely to buy those games, yet now say that they aren't likely to, but something else I've been wondering.

It would appear that you are trying to speak in haiku's with all your comments.

But....something seems off about them. They don't seem to have any juxtaposition of ideas, nor do they really impart any universal truths. They also seem a tad bit wordy for haiku. I'd say maybe you're going for the Shakespearean sonnet format, but your comments lack depth or any kind of introspective universal truth that expresses itself upon the reader.

So, I was wondering if your comments are actually just messages for foreign spies to run through some sort of cipher to extrapolate a message of some sort?

[ScoreBunnie]

Being the majority in the UK has very little meaning, especially since the majority of gamers have converted to digital. It's like measuring the sales of DVD's in a small country when blu-rays and digital are by far doing better worldwide and it's not even a comparison.

[BrettAwesome]

No. It's really just because you're butt hurt

[Dragonscale]

Talk about downplaying lol. That sales gap will be similar in more places than just the UK, probably most territories tbh.

[ScoreBunnie]

@BrettAwesome Really because I'm playing The Outer Worlds on my 1660 with gamepass PC and i'm having a grand time. Maybe your just butthurt that your physical sales mean nothing.

[BrettAwesome]

@SoreBuns
Weakest comeback ever!
Besides, that's a super mediocre graphics card to brag about

[ScoreBunnie]

@BrettAwesome, sorebuns... ha... Pretty good actually. Not really a comeback though, i'm loving this game and I'm playing it at 1440p 60fps, nice to know you will stoop low enough to shame people for having to live on a budget. I'll continue playing the game and you can continue obsessing over plastic discs.

[rainslacker]

Majority of gamers still haven't converted to digital. At least not on consoles. For most games, it's still around 25-30% of people buy digital, while the rest buy physical. Even if they had converted, the number of sales would be consisted between the platforms and the games themselves. So, if the general gamer was buying 50% digital, you'd still see roughly the same percentage between different console versions.

Living in the UK or the US, also has nothing to do with buying digital or physical.

I can see why Xbox would get fewer sales overall. Not only a smaller install base, but also, all those people that have it for free on Game pass.

[BrettAwesome]

@Sore
And you're namedroppping a mediocre gpu to sound cool. I'm not obsessing over plastic discs. You are.

[shiva1]

Gamepass = less physical sales and more value as of now. Obviously physical sales will be more on ps4. If it wasnt then the game is bad or not available on other platforms.

[rainslacker]

Game pass means less sales all around. People aren't buying it digitally if they can get it on game pass.

[CaptainCook]

Why would I purchased the physical version when I'm subscribed to Xbox Game Pass? I'll get 20% off the full game within the service.

[CaptainCook]

@gamingunited

I do purchase the games on Xbox Game Pass

[pwnmaster3000]

This game is pretty good so far. It’s like is fall out and mass effect had a baby... the baby isn’t as great as it’s parents but it’s still doing pretty fucking good.
I miss games like this. To bad they are bought by MS now, might be an expensive next gen for me smh lol.

[BizarroUltraman]

No shit.... was you expecting for it be top physical seller on Xbox when its in Gamepass?

[Mulando]

That's expected, because for xbox and pc it is included in the gamespass and you get the first month for 1$ if you haven't already got the upgraded gamepass from MS for free (mine runs until nov next year, but only paid till oct 2019 and gold jan 2020).
Would be interessting to know how much money the developer makes with offering the game via gamepass. I know it is now an MS studio, but would be interessting to know.

[MadLad]

Awesome. Glad they liked it. So that means they'll be supporting the next game by buying it on Xbox or PC, right?

[KillBill]

Wait... how did you get "the majority of sales being on PS4" from an article that talks only physical copies of the game and only UK sales?

Does not even talk about digital sales and earnings from non-direct sales like Game Pass.

[Zeref]

What is your point though? This doesn't account for digital sales and it was on GamePass day one.

[Tedakin]

Because Xbox players are playing it free on Gamepass..... I don't know a single person playing it on Xbox who bought it.

[Immorals]

That's surprisingly low considering it was a gamepass game.

[ITPython]

As much as I would like to celebrate strong PS4 sales, realistically anybody who is on Xbox and didn't get the game via Gamepass is doing gaming wrong. I understand the people who prefer physical copies (I do as well), but when you can basically get the game for free on gamepass there is really no reason to buy a physical copy.

It would make sense down the road, when it becomes super cheap on the second hand market, and you want a physical copy to always have (so you don't have to rely on digital services to play your game). But why buy brand new at $60? So it makes sense that physical PS4 sales would be so incredibly dominant (they would normally, but the gamepass situation makes it even more lopsided).

That said, I also suspect that the physical PS4 copies were being throttled. Amazon only just got the PS4 version back in stock a few days ago, and it has been out for 2 weeks now. This is Amazon, the kings of logistics. Every day they don't have stock is TONS of lost sales. And this is a game on a disk, it's not an iPhone or some complex piece of hardware that needs time to be built. Millions of disks can effortlessly be printed at a tiny cost, and Amazon of all companies would have seen the trends/statistics with people who wanted the game on the PS4 (therefore would have ordered a LOT more disks, and quickly). Them not having it in stock for so long makes it really obvious that the games physical copies were being intentionally throttled for the PS4. With the gamepass situation, Microsoft probably didn't want the initial sales numbers to be so far skewed toward the PS4, so they worked out a way (paid off a bunch of companies) to throttle the games physical availability.

[rainslacker]

If I were subscribed to game pass, I'd likely play it, and other games I didn't already have, on game pass.

I just can't really find much desire to subscribe to the service given my back log. Plus, I'm not a big fan of a service deciding when I can have access to games I want to play.

All personal things for me, and they would be true regardless of the service provider.

I think there is merit to the sales were stunted on the X1 due to game pass. It's the most logical conclusion. It's up to take two and MS to decide if that's OK with them. But, at the same time, these disparities in sales are not that far out of the oridinary for many games, so it's possible that there aren't as many game pass subs playing this game as people thought. Plus, there is still PC, which isn't as likely to be invested in game pass, so when comparing the versions sales, it would appear that there is a signficant number of people on PS that have enjoyed the game.

It's all good for the game itself, and who really cares where it sold more? Take Two and MS are the only ones that have to worry about the sales of the game, and after this game, only MS will have to worry about it.

[NXFather]

The goal is to get that tiny percentage of outerworld gamers to support Sony first party better than 10-13 percent and not need Spiderman only the biggest name out there to even reach that. But, to your point playstation beats xbox hands down with games.

[Vasto]

GOTY

Congrats to Obsidian

[Jin_Sakai]

You know The Outer Worlds is the only great game released in 2019 right? Bet you wouldn’t even mention GOTY had Microsoft not purchased Obsidian.

[Ricegum]

Vasto probably hasn't even played the game, he just loves Microsoft so much.

[BrettAwesome]

No it's not.

[Jin_Sakai]

Correction: Meant The Outer Worlds “isn’t” the only great game released in 2019.

[GaboonViper]

Vasto the slave

[BizarroUltraman]

What is it with you and Xbox/Microsoft? Even if the game wasn't a MS ip it would still be a game of yr for alot of people. Like those who like Obsidian work. Dude I get banned for speaking what I feel. You are allowed to instigate and run wild, when youre the one starting alot of shit.

[MasterCornholio]

@Bizarro

"Dude I get banned for speaking what I feel."

You mean restricted not banned. Banned users are not allowed to return to this site which is why the mods keep banning alts.

[Zeref]

Gears 5 was great too

[Atticus_finch]

Judging by the sales, too bad Xbox fans didn't support it.

[CptDville]

Makes perfect sense, Xbox users should buy it physical, digital and use the gamepass version to preserve the former two versions they bought.

[chiefJohn117]

Riiight cause buying physical copies is the only way to show support in 2019

[nucky64]

chiefjohn - what is another way to support a dev besides buying the game? and why are you limiting it to physical copies - buying digital works too.

[MadLad]

Because everyone else used game pass ...

[akbennyewu]

If you are using that argument, then you also must be arguing that everything Netflix does isn't supported.

[Malacath]

It's on Game Pass. Xbox and PC users didn't have to buy it to support it. They can support it by playing on Game Pass

[rainslacker]

The gaming industry has fought against game rentals since the blockbuster days. Game Pass is really just a controlled rental service, where they get a lump sum to put games on it. But it's still a rental service. So, by the industries own standards, renting a game is not supporting the industry or the dev. Using rentals to maybe see if you want to buy the game, then going to buy the game, would be supporting the industry or the dev.

[Atticus_finch]

I guess paying a dollar for the game is same as full price. Which do you all think obsidian preferred?

[Italiano1234567]

Thank the ps4

[shiva1]

Alright.... Let the gamepass be on ps4 then 😁

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[MadLad]

If the game wasn't offered on gamepass, I can promise sales wouldn't be that high for PS4.

[TFJWM]

The % wouldn't be as high but why would someone on ps4 not buy it because it was not on gamepass?

[Ristul]

Lmfao... you people act like everyone with an xbox one has gamepass. Gotta love that ms new baby did better on their main competitions platform. Let the damage control begin. 😂

[rainslacker]

There have been quite a few games this gen where the PS versions of games have sold between 50-70% of the copies of a game. I'm not sure why people are acting like the number here is extraordinary, or trying to rationalize it as an effect of game pass...whether negative or positive.

[Smokehouse]

Good for them. I’m enjoying it so far.

[PCgamer98]

Having a blast with this game and it feels more fallout than the actual fallout 4 game. It really deserves a sequel.

[Nerdmaster]

I wonder how they put people playing it through Xbox Game Pass in their numbers. Since on PC the alternative was to buy through Epic Games Store, which is something I'll never do, I got the Xbox Game Pass for PC because of this game.

[TacoTaru]

I did exactly the same thing. I will buy it when it is released on Steam but right now I'm thankful for game pass.If it would help Parvati I'd buy it 100 time over..

[timotim]

Couldn't be happier for Obsidian...they've created one kick ass game with much room to explore in the future. Loving the game thus far.

[Ricegum]

Unfortunately, with most sales being on PS4 I can't see this IP having a fantastic future being MS only. Kind of sad sales will suffer for any future iteration.

[CaptainHenry916]

Don't Take two owned the IP?

[CaptainCook]

?? Microsoft has millions of Xbox Game Pass subscribers on PC and Xbox consoles. This is Netflix Gaming...

@CaptainHemry916

No, Take Two just owned the publishing rights, while Obsidian owns the full IP.

[Atticus_finch]

Don't worry sequel will probably be on PS.

[timotim]

Only you could take such a positive comment and turn it into something so..... console war-ie 🤫

What you meant to say was the only way PS4 gamers could play it is by purchasing it, while millions of those on Xbox and Windows 10 had the option of playing it through Gamepass. The game is popular PERIOD, not just on PS4 haha. Stop taking such leaps just to fanboy.

[ElementX]

Well that's only physical sales. PC gamers buy digitally or have the Game Pass option. I buy digital games for console and PC and those numbers aren't released.

[Malacath]

Of course most sales were on PS4. If it wasn't I would be shocked.

A high proportion of Xbox(and PC) users wouldn't have even needed to buy the game because it's on Game Pass.

Microsoft don't care whether you buy the game or subscribe to game pass. They(and Obsidian) get payed either way.

[Dixiedevil]

It’s a good game but I hope one aspect they did, like In GOW, doesn’t become a norm. Showing locations on the map that aren’t accessible makes you feel like you’re missing out on something that never existed.

[Ausbo]

It was also number 3 on PSN top played. Glad to see outer worlds and obsidian succeed.

[Dark-soul]

I bought it and finished it, but i regret buying it. To anyone who not played it and curious i suggest wait for sale 50% off. This game much worse then any fallout game, probably even including fallout 76 (its not great i know)

[Ristul]

Obsidian probably regret selling their soul to ms now, with this success they could have stayed independent. Oh well.

[Cobra951]

Without MS funds, they likely would have gone under before finishing the development, or at least rushed out a crappy incomplete game that would have bombed. They also would not have gotten the game-pass wide exposure to the Xbox and PC players. The picture would have been a lot different, and not in a good way.

[Ristul]

Doubt it, they had this game in development long before ms came into the picture. Still, congrats to obsidian and ms for a good game release, should be a good one.

[rainslacker]

It's possible that being brought by MS helped market the game. The elusive exclusive bump that exclusive games get is pretty recognizable. While this one wasn't exclusive, Obsidian having a good popular game is a big boon for MS, which of course means that Xbox fans will promote it heavier than it might otherwise. Take Two can be hit or miss with their 3rd party publishing.

[kassler]

So, will Outer Worlds 2 be exclusive to Xbox now that MS own Obsidian?

[CaptainCook]

That's right. Microsoft owns the IP.

[Atticus_finch]

Of course it was going to sell best on PS4, the sequel will probably be on PS. I'll try out OW eventually on PS5, when it's cheap.

[Kiwi66]

If there is a sequel isn't it up to MS on what platforms they will allow it to be on seeing as they own Obsidian now

[CYALTR]

Microsoft has announced that future games from the new studios they have purchased will be Xbox exclusive. It is only because this game was already so far in development that is was released on PS. Makes sense really.

[Malacath]

There is about as much chance of Outer Worlds 2 being on PS as there is for The Last of Us 2 being on Xbox. Absolute zero

[Ristul]

No, I think it could happen, just like with minecraft and Ori have been ported. Ms clearly likes the money they make on other platforms.

[Malacath]

@Ristul

Ori isn't a first party exclusive. The developer Moon studios isn't owned by Microsoft.
And Minecraft was already multiplatform before Microsoft bought them.
The only reason The Outer Worlds is on playstation is because it was already in development and Private Division already had the publishing rights before Microsoft bought Obsidian

[Atticus_finch]

I'm 99.9999999....% certain that you will never see TLOU2 on xbox. But there is a big chance that MS won't want to miss out on those sweet sales PS.

[Blu3_Berry]

I hope that this franchise takes off and Fallout starts bombing.

[Malacath]

Don't get me wrong I hope the Outer Worlds franchise takes off but as far as Fallout goes I hope Bethesda learn from all this and make the next Fallout a single player masterpiece

[Nacho_Z]

Bit gutted I'll most likely never play the follow ups. Bigger and better and more polished sequels will make it an excellent franchise. Xbox got a good one there.

[Lon3wolf]

Don't forget PC will also get any sequels.

[Cobra951]

Yeah, if you're willing to submit to the UWP walled garden and the MS Store.

[Lighter9]

The game was pretty fun, and the sequel should be a lot better. Hopefully, we'll finally be able to throw grenades and drop mines.

[CaptainHenry916]

I noticed you couldn't throw grenades early in the game. I was like why not?

[2ndhandcorn]

Tried it on game pass and was a bit bored , Mass effect 1 drew me in so fast but i can not get into many rpgs so much work and dialogue.

[BadElf]

The character customization and gameplay isnt exceeding my expectations

[william_cade]

I'm at my families house for vacation and playing it on gamepass (comparing it with New Vegas). It's a fun game but I don't think I'm going to buy it for my PS4 when I get home.

[ifrit_caress]

Always good to read about a good game selling well.

[NeoGamer232]

And this is what everything should be about...

Good games with good sales.

Doesn't matter who makes it or who owns them.

[ifrit_caress]

I disagree, if a game is awful I don't think it should do well in terms of sales. Games like Sea of Thieves, Aliens: Colonial Marines to name a couple.

[Smclaren1985]

Great to see it’s doing really well I’m about 30 hours in and I’m loving it so great to finally get a great first person RPG some fallout all the best parts of mass effect with a sprinkle of bioshock I love it👍

[Thundercat77]

Well Obsidian, be ready to loose all those sales if your next games are not on PlayStation.

78% of sales on PlayStation is huge.

[Malacath]

Sales aren't everything to Microsoft. They go by the amount of players a game has through both Game Pass and sales.

And yes the Playstation sales difference is huge but part of that is the fact that Xbox users didn't have to buy the game.

[Thundercat77]

Wrong. PlayStation sales have been way bigger than Xbox the whole gen way before gamepass. Your excuse is the way Microsoft is using to hide their shameful performance this gen.

[Malacath]

@Thundercat77.

Stop being such a pathetic fanboy. I said part of the reason in difference. Yes Playstation still would have had more sales due to the size of the userbase but the gap wouldn't have been as large as it is now due to Game Pass.

It astounds me how fanboys like you can be so thick. You're so in love with your beloved Sony you can't see the obvious. I and many other Xbox and PC users didn't buy the game because we didn't need to. If we did the sales gap would have been smaller. Because you are so much of a fanboy you refuse to acknowledge that.

[Kiwi66]

Then have every game multiplat then so that way companies won't miss out on sales, seeing as people keep going on about how a company will miss out on sales if the game is owned by one company

[Manubiggs]

Good - keep buying it. Send a message to the industry, make a good game and we will buy it.

[EDKICK]

Of course this entire comment section turned into a silly fanboy console war conversation. I'm just happy to see a singleplayer, narrative focused game, with no multiplayer, season pass, lootboxes or microtransactions not only sell well but above expectations. Instead of the usual "didn't meet expectations" article we usually get.

[Gwiz]

Congratz Obsidian,you deserve this after that bollocks you know who pulled.

[waverider]

Another view is: The next game of this franchise will flop, sales wise.

[akbennyewu]

I see you were looking for a view from a retard's perspective, good call.

[waverider]

i see that you cant handle the truth. The game sold almost 80% on a platform that wont be available in the next chapter. Easy to do the math.

[rainslacker]

Take Two won't care about that game, because they won't be publishing it.

MS would need to boost it's install base and PC gamers would have to buy more of an individual game to make up what would appear to be a huge loss that would be incoming with the lack of a PS release. It's not a bad thing for MS, as they can likely still sell enough to make it worth it, or use it as a way to push game pass subs, or xcloud depending on how things are set up.

PC gamers do buy games, but many games don't sell on PC just because there are a lot of PC gamers. Number of PC gamers may be higher for the sequel, but it's not likely to be a signfiicant growth if and when a new game comes out.

[MetroidFREAK21]

Can't wait to see what all the fuss is about in 2020 on my Switch 👌

[akbennyewu]

I believe you will love it, enjoy when it arrives!

[XVision84]

It's not the best choice, it's Spacer's Choice!

[phantomexe]

Who owns the Ip? I guessed MS when the purchased Obsidian? 2k just published? Be honest with you guys i didn't buy it because i figured we wouldn't see a second game.

[akbennyewu]

MS has rights to the IP going forward, this title already had a publishing agreement in place prior to Microsoft acquiring Obsidian. Future titles may very well be Windows and Xbox exclusive but nothing is known officially.

[Sophisticated_Chap]

Looks like Microsoft picked a winner.

[formanbradley]

This is obviously a mistake, when every single game sells below expectations nowadays. Because companies think they deserve all the sales in the world, and then some.

[Wulfer]

Outer Worlds is about to trash Death Stranding...