MediEvil's Poor Reception Could Derail PlayStation 1 Nostalgia Wave

Medievil on PS4 has had a pretty mediocre reception from critics. Could this lead to the death of PS1 remakes?

[TheColbertinator]

Much better PS1 games from that era need to be remade. Plenty of potential but Sony has no idea of how to capitalize on their dormant IPs. I would tell them but I'm too busy.

[naruga]

medievil along with crash bandicoot could have a been (bought and) remade through Sony s own studios and be extremely well done ...but as with Activision and Crash ,Sony preferred to remake it quickly and cheap without catching the original atmosphere and feeling , they just throwed the game to new 3D map editor and that s it .....my dream would be original Crash trilogy to be bought and remade from scratch by Sony themselves

[Brave_Losers_Unite]

no

[Profchaos]

No the crash remakes where actually quite good there's some sacrifices that are going to have to be made because when crash was originally made the hit boxes were flat but now they have rounded edges so it's a very tiny but impactful change to the game that will hurt those that remember it from muscle memory alone.

Spyro was actually the perfect remake however in my opinion if anything it should have been harder like an optional additional difficulty thrown in to increase the challenge

[TKCMuzzer]

Do you honesty think Actvision would have let Crash go cheap?

[SegaSaturn669]

Really? Crash felt great to me. Haven't touched medievil yet, though...

[IamTylerDurden1]

naruga

You are very misinformed.

1. The game is technically rebuilt from the ground up. It's beautiful.

2. The game is incredibly faithful to the original. They even brought in some of the original creators to ensure it was faithful. It absolutely captures the feel of the original, virtually everything is the same just slightly improved.

3. Other Ocean went to great lengths with this game. It wasn't quick and easy. They worked with the original code and actually brought some concepts to life that were never fully realized in the original because of time and money constraints.

This is basically the ultimate addition of MediEvil the way the original developers had always wanted.

Fans of the original are thrilled with this remake/master. Also, it isn't a full fledged reimagining like RE2. It's a faithful technical remake/remaster and it's priced at just $30 because of it. It makes no sense for critics to trash the game, it's like they were expecting a $60 reimagining like RE2.

[Teflon02]

A game I wish got a proper remake is threads of Fate. That game was amazing. But really rough. Maybe a sequel or something would be fine too. As long as they bring back the 2 main characters

[Exvalos]

hell yes man! threads of fate aka Dew prism, I still got my copy that game was amazing in its time

[Ratchet75]

Legend of dragoon

[neutralgamer1992]

Selling well and that's all companies care about not what some wanna be journalists think

In today's age reviews matter less than ever before and this game selling well and user reviews being 15 points higher proves that

[Xack]

Maybe instead of just 'remaking' it they could do what Capcom did and reimagine it. As someone who reviewed MediEvil it was fine as a nostalgic experience but it felt old

[2pacalypsenow]

I remember when RE1 and Ninja Gaiden Sigma were just remakes and they got critical acclaim

[ABizzel1]

If you're talking about RE GameCube, and Ninja Gaiden Sigma on PS3, then those games were beyond a decade ago and released at a point where their mechanics still made sense, Because RE was PS1 -> GC (successor generation), and Ninja Gaiden Sigma was Xbox -> PS3 (successor generation).

MediEvil is a PS1 game in mechanics and all, with early PS4 graphics. That's 3 generations of gameplay enhancements that needed to be done.

The vast majority of PS1 gameplay mechanics, especially for action-based games, cannot hold up 4 generations later, and if these classics aren't being remade with the same care that Ratchet and Clank, Resident Evil 2, Shadow of the Colossus, FF7 and a few others are being done, then they're better off just release the PS1 version as a free download for console and a cheap mobile game.

Nothing everything needs to be remade, but those that are needed to be a large enough franchise with a strong following/cult following that can sell itself on brand alone, and seeing it reenvisioned is the bread and butter.

If they want remakes then PS1:
Chrono Trigger / Chrono Cross
Legacy of Kain
Tony Hawks Pro Skater (I don't think there was a good skateboarding game this gen)
Twisted Metal 1+2
Silent Hill
Legend of Dragoon
Bushido Blade
Parasite Eve
Dino Crisis
SOCOM

[IamTylerDurden1]

ABizzel

MediEvil was already reimagined and fans didn't like it. That was the point of this game, a faithful remake/remaster.

It isn't supposed to be RE2. It isn't a reimagining. It's not a $60 AAA.

Not everything needs to be remade? Well not everything needs to be reimagined as a cookie cutter AAA. This is not meant to be R&C or RE2. It's MediEvil the way fans wanted it. It's beautiful and it's faithful.

If everything has to be brought into 8th gen cookie cutter standards, then why do people clamor for PS1 and PS2 classics/BC? There is room for both reimagined 8th gen AAA and faithful remake/master. If people didn't want classic games/gameplay then there would be no reason for BC or classic games.

Onimusha Warlords came out recently and it was given considerably less effort than MediEvil. It was basically just a plain remaster yet critics didn't trash that game. It was hideous to look at and the gameplay wasn't exactly current gen standards. Did you say these same things about Warlords?

[Segata]

They did reimagine it on PSP and it sucked. Fans were not happy with it. Fans have been happy with this remake however.

[Profchaos]

But isn't that the point of they change to much it would fail to be a remake and fall into reimagining like ratchet and Clank did or re2. Nothing wrong with that but sometimes there's games like Spyro where you don't want the experience altered.

[Lionsguard]

This is exactly why I am 100% on board with how the direction the FF7 remake is going. It would have been nothing but a waste to pander to nostalgia-zealots who want a 1:1 remake instead of a reimagining. Some games like Spyro and Crash are fine as 1:1 remakes but a game like Medieval could have been so much more if they had just decided to go the extra mile. I'm not saying turn it into Dark Souls but it had the potential to really stand out as a new game.

[IamTylerDurden1]

They already did with Resurrection.

This is the problem. Reviewers not understanding what they are playing.

This is a $30 technical remake, but essentially it's a remaster in every other sense. It isn't, nor was it EVER marketed to be anything like RE2.

RE2 was a different animal. It was meant to be a completely new experience. A new AAA game based on Resident Evil 2. It's a $60 game. MediEvil is basically a remaster, a very lovingly built remaster with so much effort put in, it almost qualified as a remake.

Don't deduct points because more effort was given. They could've easily just cleaned up the original and slapped it on a disc and called it remastered. If this was a true remake they would've charged $40 or more.

They went through hell to get this game right. To make it authentic. They brought in the original creators, worked with the original code and even fully realized some concepts that never made it in the original because of time and money constraints.

It is MediEvil, just tighter and prettier. It's the version of MediEvil that the original developers intended to deliver. It's faithful, it's $30, it's fantastic. Fans of the original are thrilled! One guy was literally crying because MediEvil meant so much to him and this was so beautifully built.

[Smokehouse]

In a perfect world the “critics” would have no influence whatsoever. We’re not waiting for gamepro magazine to learn about games anymore. Reviews are in large part outdated trash. Honestly, I think it depends on the sales. It’s more about being worth it opposed to a bunch of bloggers’ opinions.

[ArchangelMike]

Exaclty. Games like Detroit Become Human, and Days Gone evidence the fact that the critics sometimes have one agenda, that the gaming public simply don't have. Both those games sold very well for sony - despite the criticism from the gaming press. Heck Days Gone already has a sequel green lit by Sony because it sold so well - 6th best selling playstation exclusive.

[ninsigma]

Wow didn't know about the sequel being given the go ahead. That's awesome! Days gone was a great experience (and honestly much better than I thought it would be).

[Italiano1234567]

Well its selling great in both uk and us

[sprinterboy]

Absolute gem of a game, one of my favs this gen for sure and look fwd to a sequal.
Over 80 hours my 1st playthrough yet kinda funny games fast travelled everywhere and did it 30hrs and gave it a 6 (missed most the game)
Does anyone know the sales numbers for days gone yet?

[IamTylerDurden1]

Agreed. A 71 is a fucking joke for Days Gone. People love it though. Already around 4 million sold. Sorry critics, but u failed.

[CrimsonWing69]

Geezus, pick PS1 games we liked. Sure, Medievil has a cult following but it was not some super popular title.

There's hundreds of better PS1 games to make remakes over.

[SPEAKxTHExTRUTH]

Medieval was a great game back in 98....in 98. It’s just not one of those games that will do well in today’s era.

[Segata]

Game is great

[FlameWater]

PSX was just a beta, PS2 is where the real nostalgia is at.

[zidane1341]

If you are 12, sure. Otherwise stfu.

[Vanfernal]

"Poor reception".

67 "reviewer" meta score
8.4 user meta score.

This clearly shows that the people who liked the game back in the day like it now. If anything it just shows how out of touch game "journalists" are with the industry. Classics are classic for a reason.

[sprinterboy]

Got my little nephew 7yrs old his 1st playstation last Xmas, he's just started gaming and I got him playing spyro trilogy, Minecraft, lbp, CTR and ratchet and clank over the last year but I'm gonna treat him to medievil this Xmas.
I promised him a ps5 if he can get his 1st platinum trophy before Xmas 2020 lol.
Every week when I get to see him, he's like I got one more trophy uncle adi bless.
He looks so confused at why I'm not interested in fortnite. He lied the other week and said he saw on the news that fortnite age rating had gone down to 6 lol pmsl.

[pecorre]

They just upgraded the graphics. It should have been a complete remake, like RE2. I've been playing PS1 game lately and most of them aged badly.

[StormLegend]

It's a cheaper game going for $29.99 you can't expect big changes

[jznrpg]

Screw critics -

[AnotherGamer]

This is form the critics, user reviews are a whole other story.

[AnubisG]

This game is an 8-8.5 in my book. I think it's also selling well. So what poor reception?

Oh, that's right, the 22 year old SJW journalists who got participation trophies even for last place all their lives and if a little bit difficult game comes along that does not save afer every time they fart, than it's bad and outdated.

[rainslacker]

People in the gaming press often think that they are the only ones who have any influence on anything within the gaming industry.

I mean, this article alone says that because one game, which reviewed poorly by professional reviewers, had low scores, that it's going to undue the much larger number of remasters/remakes that ended up reviewing really well, and selling pretty well too.

It's like saying that Gears is going to die because Gears Pop didn't sell well, or that COD was on the way out because....well, reviewers never give 1st person shooters bad scores, so i guess there's no comparison.

[DVAcme]

No it won't. MediEvil was never one of Sony's big franchises, and it was simply a remake too close to the original. This game is in no way representative of what Sony could achieve with remakes/reboots of their franchises. Sony has tons of franchises that are primed for a comeback, and the fans will react accordingly. I can easily see a new Warhawk in the style of the PS3 game, a new Twisted Metal or a new Syphon Filter, all doing gangbusters.

[MONOLITHICIDE]

oh well. My son and I are having a blast with the game.

[JonTheGod]

MediEvil was always mediocre. A PS4 remaster isn't going to change that.

[Tross]

Or people should wise up and start ignoring the critics who clearly don't judge products impartially anymore.

[ILostMyMind]

But nobody asked for this game.

[SinisterKieran]

one of those games where i don't even remember liking the original.

[Samonuske]

Commercial success is more important than Critical.

[Exvalos]

You cant shovel crap in our mouth and expect us to swallow. Its not our fault they made a subpar port of a game nobody was asking to be remade. Even so they should have given it the next gen treatment all they really did was slightly update the graphics. Give us a remake of Syphon filter, Tenchu, Parasite eve, Dino crisis, Brave fencer musashi, Legend of Dragoon for example. There is a huge market and opportunity for these classics to make a return, but dont attemp a half measure remake and expect us to fawn over it.

[Silly gameAr]

You're acting like Sony is commanding you to love Medievil. It wasn't made for you and that's fine, but don't say "give us" in your example of games YOU want remade. The people that are playing this game love it. No one is shoving anything in your mouth. You don't want it, don't buy it.

And, most of those games you want a remake of, have nothing to do with Sony. Might need to take your entitlement to Capcom, Square, and From Software.

[jznrpg]

This was for MediEvil fans

[Immagaiden]

As if one game could really discourage developers from making remakes from a particular platform

[jznrpg]

Especially when they sell well and users rate them highly

[Profchaos]

No it was an ok game back then but they did a poor job remastering it.
I played the short lived demo and walked away disappointed at the frame rate drops on my pro and underwhelming graphics.

Compared to the Spyro and crash trilogy it wasn't anywhere near as lovingly crafted.

[ShadowWolf712]

lol not so

[jznrpg]

I love it. I didn’t want an easier version of MediEvil . I just wanted some trophies and slightly upgraded graphics and they gave me that I’m happy

[adamwparker]

Well.....nobody really asked for MediEvil, so......

[jznrpg]

I did , and I know many others loved it

[ShadowWolf712]

The game plays just like the original game, it looks great, it's fun... so long as it sells, I don't think we're gonna have a problem.

[lellkay]

Played the demo and its gameplay has aged like milk.

[Christopher]

If it does, that's bad market research on Sony's part. Get better games to remaster or remake.

My suggestion: Tenchu games (remake please) and Parasite Eve (either would make me happy).

[jznrpg]

MedIEvil is a classic . There are Many others that people want but a lot of them will require more resources as well. I doubt this stymies more PS1 remasters or remakes as it’s selling well and users like it.

[Christopher]

I don't know what you define as a classic, but I'm not certain most people would mention MediEvil before multiple other games. Some of them, fortunately, are already remastered (Spyro, Crash Bandicoot, Abe's Odyssey, RE2 and MGS for example) or are already being remade (FFVII).

If you're not a fan of my options, even though Tenchu 2 is a killer game, how about Twisted Metal, Tony Hawk Pro Skater 2, Legacy of Kain, or Parappa the Rapper?

Again, this is based on the idea that MediEvil fails to maintain the nostalgia factor of remastering/remaking PS1 games.

[sprinterboy]

Who the fuck writes this shit?

[Soulrakk]

Did many people ask for this?

[addictedtochaos]

It will only matter if it doesn’t sell.

[battlegrog]

This game is low on the charts of ps1 classics that could be much bigger.

[AK91]

Poor reception? It hasn’t been that bad afaik

[Pacifico]

No it won't nobody gave 2 shits about medievil...

[SolidGamerX]

New day new "could this lead to the death of" something Sony related article. Wish something would lead to the death of these opinion pieces.

[Wontime1]

No save points didn't help

[IamTylerDurden1]

It's phenomenal. One of the best remasters I have ever played. Well, remake/master?

It's MediEvil the way the creators had wished it could be. I love it.

[Acecalibur]

They remade the wrong game.

[Kaii]

Remaster Tomba 2 plx

[Wotbot]

The games wasn’t that good in the first place

[J-DARKnes]

I'm having a blast with the game, got it day one and was not disappointed.. then again I knew what I was getting so.

[Gordoncordon]

just because some """"review ers""""&quo t; gave this game a 4 doesn't mean it wasn't a success, the game sold very well

[BlackDoomAx]

It was just an ok game at the time. It still is.