Fallout's Worst Feature Rears its Ugly Head in The Outer Worlds

Twinfinite "The fetch-questing, irritating errand-going quest loop that Bethesda games have long been mocked and memed over for years has, unfortunately, made an unwelcome return for The Outer Worlds. For all Obsidian's brilliance, its latest game inherits both the best and worst of Fallout games."

[Interloper]

Sounds clickbaity.

[TheScotsman]

Very, I'm enjoying it very much.

[antz1104]

Huh. I thought they'd bring up weight ratio

[Tross]

That’s because it is.

[rainslacker]

Especially since what they're complaining about is hardly exclusive to fallout

[AK91]

It is.

[CYALTR]

It's Twinfinite, that's all they do!

[FTLmaster]

I’m loving The Outer Worlds, personally, but this is an interesting read with some good points.

[TheScotsman]

Good read but title is click bait for sure

[ArchangelMike]

Yeah, a good read bit definitely clickbait. Fallout's worst feature is probably the bugs.

[A2X_]

@ArchangelMike Bugs are a feature nowadays?

[Daeloki]

@A2X_ if you ask Bethesda, yes

[ReadyPlayer22]

I can see some of these points, but overall I am very much enjoying the game. The humor and versatility in the quests is a nice plus

[bluefox755]

You can definitely feel the jankiness of fallout, I've gotten stuck in weird places numerous times, but it's not bad. I'm liking it so far. The colors and art are beautiful. The characters are funny and engaging. The world is great, basically a scifi satire of the soviet union, there are so many parallels to the Gulag Archipelago. Whether this is intentional or not, I don't know, but it's good thing IMO.

[Palitera]

Really? Do you REALLY think The Outer Worlds is a communism satire? ROFL
Beware the commie ghosts, day and night. Bwahahaha

[gokublack]

"The characters are funny and engaging"

LOL more like they are super gay and look like they all have down syndrome

[DerfDerf]

No

[Qweets]

No

[King_Noctis]

Man, The Outer Worlds is so so good. Played for a couple of hours and couldn’t tear myself away as I was so engrossed with the game’s story and atmosphere.

The Outer World 2, with MS’s money, will be so doped.

[sprinterboy]

You played for a couple of hours? Or you couldn't tear yourself away lol.

[King_Noctis]

If I could tear myself from it then I would have played just for a few minutes and then stop.

[ITPython]

Unfortunately, this will likely be Obsidian's last good game if we are to look historically at studios acquired by MS. If Rare had been aligned with Sony, they could have easily been in the same league as Naughty Dog today (they basically already were the ND equivalent today, but in the SNES/N64 era). But nope, they got involved with MS and absolutely deteriorated into nothing.

Outer Worlds 2 is almost guaranteed to be an XB2 exclusive with the next-gen systems in 2020, but because of Microsoft's involvement, the odds are stacked against them quite a bit. Obsidian would have been wise to hitch their wagon to a different star, but what is done is done. And with the successful release of Outer Worlds, this is likely the biggest "peak" the studio will ever see.

Hope I am wrong though, as the world really does need more of these kinds of RPG games. As Bethesda sure isn't going to do them anymore (at least successfully).

[ChristopherJack]

It'll likely be on PC too which is all I care about for now, though with next gen looming, there's every chance that my laptop won't keep up so I guess I'll wait and see.

[Nosferatu_dude]

Wow, you are pessimistic...

[good_sk8er]

Oh Rare, why did you let them do this to you :(

[CrimsonWing69]

There’s always gotta be some Media outlet that tries to go on a smear campaign for a game that gets so many accolades.

[alexgibson]

Actually, I am the only editor out of a team of 10 or so permanent staffers that feels this way. All of Twinfinite's content has been positive aside from this, and I myself have enjoyed the game apart from what I've mentioned here. I genuinely thank you for reading, but don't talk shit.

[CrimsonWing69]

You’re not welcome and I’ll do whatever the hell I want to do.

[Chris12]

The irony of an editor asking someone not to talk shit.

[jlove4life]

Your expose is an opinion like his comment he never told you dont write articles from home journalism and ask for free ish so be nice

[VTKC]

Why do you even react? You put your opinion out there. People dont like it, big suprise. Big deal. Theres a saying about opinions are like assholes. The irony is you mentioned talking shit. Its the internet, people say things. It would be detrimental to your reputation as a journalist to react in this manner. Take a step back before deciding to react like this in future. You will feel better for it, otherwise It just fuels more aggravation from your audience.

[Nosferatu_dude]

If you are confident enough to share your opinion, be confident enough to receive one... Be a professional for f*** sake.

[alexgibson]

Yes, how dare I ask someone not to make things up! What a terrible editor i must be.

[deadfrag]

Everyone is entitle to there opinian even if they are talking shit...so stop been a dick and stop telling people what to do.You know the moment you or anyone puts an article up for scrutiny you will have to take with all kinds of people and there opinian and take it for what it is! Maybe you want special treatment.

[ChristopherJack]

"so stop been a dick and stop telling people what to do"

You see the irony, right? What's worst is that you've devolved the conversation.

It went from a journalist defending themself, requesting that people stop leaping to false conclusions (they could have done that much more professionally though), to just plain attacking.

[Nicknasty]

Youre not acting very professional for a game editor. You must be an amateur. Reacting that way because someone voices their opinion. Telling people what to do, comon. Youre in the wrong profession maybe.

You would fit in better writing made up fabricated stories for CNN, and then attacking people that disagree with you there. Lol

[Cueil]

opinions are like buttholes... most stink

[Stanjara]

Interesting read indeed.

[porkChop]

Calling fetch quests a "feature" is a bit disingenuous. And those types of quests exist in literally every game with quests.

[rainslacker]

If that's all they have then I can see it being a problem. But the fetch quest is an easy way to add extra things to do. But if there are other things to do with the side quests, then it's just another form of quest you can ignore if you want

[chiefJohn117]

This on gamepass? I been working so much I haven't gamed in over a month.

[Specter229]

Yeah it is.

[Jon_Targaryen]

Def a GOTY contender if not alrady a GOTY. I'm not gonna lie. Im addicted. Its like Mass Effect, Guardians of the Galaxy and Fallout had a three way and we got this. I LOVE IT!!!!

[N1GHT_W0LF_X]

"ThIs OpEn WoRlD gAmE iSn'T lInEaR eNoUgH!!"

Pretty much sums up the entire article.

[TargusX]

It's existence?

[Orionsangel]

The whole game is basically, do this for me and I'll give you that. I expected it.

[Profchaos]

I actually don't mind those open ended quests because they give you something to do at least.

[Italiano1234567]

Its a great rpg but def feels dated. Im waiting to see what they can do with a big triple A budget.

[mastershredder]

Oh, making a very superficial connection are we? How very hack game "journalist" of you.
Let me drink your volunteer gamer site cringy contributor hateroade while I enjoy this next The Outer Worlds side quest. Seriously twinfinate, go sew your butt shut. This is worlds apart from what Bethesda's been doing, even though Obsidian fathered it and the genre/style. If you are gonna journalist when you grow up, then go read up heavily about all things Obsidian and rethink your life. Holy crap.

[isarai]

Fallout's worst feature is Bethesda.

[JSONEHUNDRED]

Im LOVING the game. I only have 4 issues with it.

1. I wish the loot button wasn't the same button that draws your weapon. Im sick of missing a piece of loot and pulling my gun out constantly
2. When I want to go in a room, close the door and steal everything, my Companions are ALWAYS standing in the doorway or just outside, and reopen the door after I close it and walk off to steal. Sometimes multiple times.
3. I hate that Only one quest marker can be on the map at any one time, and that I have to constantly switch between Journal and Map selecting different quests, to work out which ones I can do on my current planet, and where they are. I actually keep a One Note list for this now sorted by Planet. They should all be on the map, with one active, and also have mouse overs, so you know which ones they are. Or the Journal should be sorted by Planet.
4. It doesnt teach you a lot of things; ie.I still dont know how to use the secondary buff/healing slots and nothing has taught me how to, so all the food I collected is useless ATM, and ive just stored it all on the ship, cos I have enough to encumber me.

Otherwise, fantastic game.

[ZeroToleranceX]

You have to upgrade you rmedical stat and add more items into your inhaler, so that when you heal (deafault "F" key), you will get all the buffs associated with the items packed into your inhaler.

[JSONEHUNDRED]

OH sweet, so I dont have to switch to them? I get them all at once? Thanks for the info. I was wondering why i would bother taking something that only lasts 30 seconds. Makes sense now.

[yomfweeee]

An open world RPG has quests? OMG

[gokublack]

Overhyped trash game...if you dont want to go questing with ppl who act and look like the LBGTQ super friends club then dont buy this game.

[CrimsonPheonix]

The characters are too ugly for me to even play this game.

[2ndhandcorn]

Loved Mass effect 1and 2 but never found anything as engaging , tried Outer worlds for about an hour felt nothing am done with it lol.

[william_cade]

Fallout 4 worst were the far behind graphics, dialogue choices were flat-line and those mouth animations...

[NiteX]

Oh this isn't about the horrible hairstyles?

[Deeke]

This is one of the only games I don't mind doing fetch quests in. The environments are nice, the characters actually seem ALIVE thanks to the dialog, and the combat is pretty fun.

[Gwiz]

bollocks

[AK91]

Actually the real problems with Bethesda games is they were released as early alpha games and broken as all well pus the gameplay even fixed was super boring. Outer Worlds has minimal bugs and the combat while not stellar is still better than anything Bethesda made in their entire history.

[Chumdiddy]

I literally just tried the game and I hate to say that it absolutely didn't grab me at all. After 4 hours I was bored and mostly felt like I was playing a bad Fallout game.

It's hard to explain. On one hand it basically IS a Fallout game. So much from the general look to quest systems to the fine details are taken straight from Fallout. It adds a few neat, new things but it's not enough to be it's own thing.

After the reviews I was really excited to play this and now I wish I hadn't bought it. I hate when that happens but I do think they're a solid developer so I don't mind supporting them.

This just seems like a reskin of Fallout NV.

[jznrpg]

Thought it would be bugs

[shauzy]

that bitch is crying on the first couple of quests, as always garbage opinions from garbage people fill this site

[kikicub]

Doesn't have Fallout's worst feature, it is not by Bethesda...

[cfc83]

Is there anyway to see our characters. It seems like 1st person only, even duing dialogue.

[ZeroToleranceX]

I've put in ~20 hours too, and I agree. The game has turned into a series of fetch quests and I'm less invested. I have to bring a potential companion some "asprin" for their hangover before they join my party? Yawn.

Why do I care about getting this guy's poster, or this bartender's jerseys? What does this have to do with worldbuilding?

I think this is a fundamental problem with RPGs featuring tabula rasa characters: developers like Obsidian have to create a believable world where players of whatever race, ethnicity, gender, sexual orientation, etc can "relate." This makes for an overall generic experience because the game becomes a "one size fits all."

The Witcher 3, in contrast, becomes the touchstone for worldbuilding because Geralt is his own character. "Fetch quests" to kill this or that monster are hidden behind the fact that he hunts monsters by trade. So it makes sense for me to take on missions to kill unique versions of monsters I may or may not encounter naturally (plus I get a neat tale about some NPCs).

In contrast, why do I care that rap(tors) in Outer Worlds have infested this factory, that plant? So what if these mauraders have occuipied this or that building? What does that have to do with me as a character???

I've seen a few comparisons to Mass Effect with Outer Worlds. Even then, Shephard is an Earthling with a prior background that informs his/her decisions while saving the known universe. Those games were focused around (fem)Shep, rather than the universal model Outer Worlds has.

Maybe this is a realization, if not remembering, how generic these Open World games are at a fundamental level, which is why Bethesda tried to pivot to Mindcraft-like customization in FO4, and whatever FO76 is supposed to be (lol).

[MetalGearAlex]

Great Game. clickbait. :)

[cfc83]

I thought this game had a 18gb patch day 1. My entire game is just under 18gb ? any game pass players with the same issue ?