An Update on Next-Gen: PlayStation 5 Launches Holiday 2020

Featuring a new controller with haptic technology and adaptive triggers.

[mark3214uk]

"You will fee the tension in the triggers when pulling a bow"

Now that is a good feature

[Welshy]

It would be cool if it's something you could manually change in settings too. Make the triggers tighter and require less of a push to fire for competitive shooters for example.

[darthv72]

Should make for some interesting play throughs. This is a game changer.

[Outside_ofthe_Box]

Would be cool in my opinion if for shooters, developers were to tie in the trigger pressure into the guns' rate of fire so that each gun would have a different feel when pushing the trigger button.

[_SilverHawk_]

I cant wait to buy ps5 day one. So many innovations that will enhance gaming experience

[AngelicIceDiamond]

Knew it was holiday 2020. We should expect a February 2020 PS event like they did with PS4. 2nd time MS and Sony will launch in the same time frame. Great for us gamers all around, stoked. Hopefully they show off the new controller as well.

[bouzebbal]

Think it's a lame reveal.. PS4 reveal was a much more wow moment.. Came out of nowhere.

[Rimeskeem]

I would assume it could be used by devs to make certains guns have a longer or shorter pull time as well as different rumble variances.

[RememberThe357]

That's a cool thought. Wonder if they could simulate trigger break for shooters?

[Nyxus]

Sounds like it works very well (from the Wired article):

"Combined with an improved speaker on the controller, the haptics can enable some astonishing effects. First, I play through a series of short demos, courtesy of the same Japan Studio team that designed PlayStation VR's Astro Bot Rescue Mission. In the most impressive, I ran a character through a platform level featuring a number of different surfaces, all of which gave distinct—and surprisingly immersive—tactile experiences. Sand felt slow and sloggy; mud felt slow and soggy. On ice, a high-frequency response made the thumbsticks really feel like my character was gliding. Jumping into a pool, I got a sense of the resistance of the water; on a wooden bridge, a bouncy sensation."

https://www.wired.com/story...

Edit: looks like they are two separate features, haptic feedback and adaptive triggers, but both help to increase immersion.

[RpgSama]

That sounds AMAZING!!, I'm really, really, really excited about Next-Gen, much more than from the last one to this one.

[jaymacx]

I was wondering how Sony was gonna improve on their controller. Now I am totally excited about it.. if they improve the battery life , it will be a perfect controller.

[sampsonon]

@jaymacx
"if they improve the battery life , it will be a perfect controller."

i never understood this complaint.
i bought a $20 charging docking station and two controllers.
they are always charged. one gets low i place it on the docking station, grab the other one and that's it.

the console also came with a charging cable that reaches 7 ft.

so yeah

[Muzikguy]

@sampsonon

That's nice. When it works for you I guess. I have 2 controllers as well with one always charging so I can switch if it dies. The original one that came with my system dies in like 3 hours. The other one I can play for days. Improved battery would be great. I hope they leave the touchpad off maybe that'll help

[jib]

@sampsonon

What's so hard to understand about people wanting a longer battery life? I would have to spend $50 to match the convenience you have. I think it's safe to assume that most people would rather have controllers last as long as they did last gen where you could go 1-3 weeks before having to charge

Other than that for me, the controller's perfect. Anything beyond a better battery is a bonus for next gen

[rainslacker]

Yeah. Haptic stuff can be pretty impressive. It can take some getting used to since we've all trained to be used to a single resistance on a controller. This is much more controllable than just changing the update variable in code, as it gives a direct tactile feel to the user, as opposed to an annoying change to what you get used to in the game itself

@Sampson

I just use my phone charging cord and keep playing with the same controller. It's on the table next to my couch anyways

[The Wood]

I think the speaker is underrated and underused. You could do some kool s#it with that

[The Wood]

I'll be using the same cord I used to charge my phone just like I was the beginning of this gen. Type C is pretty much the most used charge method in the house

[RpgSama]

"While a number of studios already had their PS5 devkits, the controller prototypes began rolling out much more recently, and no one is ready to name specific titles they're developing for the PS5. "We're working on a big one right now," says Marco Thrush, president of Bluepoint Games, which most recently worked on last year's PS4 remake of Shadow of the Colossus. "I'll let you figure out the rest.""

Demon Souls for PS5 confirmed!!!!!

[InKnight7s]

It could be of JRPGs like Legend of Dragoon, Metal Gear Solid or anything else. Demon Souls is easy task for software to handle it by their own.

[RpgSama]

@InKnight7s

Don't say things like Legend of Dragoon to me, don't play with my heart that way :(.

[Zeegamereh]

Right Hyped asf I love when new consoles release caaaanttt wait! Console gaming for life!

[goldwyncq]

This could be a game changer if done right. Imagine a game in the same vein as Heavy Rain or Detroit implementing this feature in certain scenarios -- like having to push the trigger hard enough in order to perfectly execute some actions.

[alexg587]

Just please at least double the battery

[Spacemagic]

Horizon 2 feature confirmed lol

[Eidolon]

And USB C !

[KaiPow]

This is the evolution to Nintendo's HD rumble that I've been wanting.

[Imortus_san]

So they are going to do what the Xbox One controllers have done since launch?

[Kribwalker]

yeah. I love the feature and hopefully more devs start using it

[IRetrouk]

No lol not even close, the xbox controller has haptic triggers, that's it.

[AnubisG]

That is amazing and the new "rumble" feature sounds grear as well. I can't wait to hold one in my hands.

[NarutoFox]

I know right 😊

[xVOLTx]

Sounds like a terrible idea.

[S2Killinit]

That would be sick.

[sssb]

I really hope they show exclusive games at Sony press conference.

[ShinjukuSon]

Ghost of Tsushima is still on PS4 just as The Last of Us: Part II is boys! Where are the haters now?

[sssb]

also FFVIIR :) my most wanted game ever.

[ShinjukuSon]

@sssb mine too bro

[GaboonViper]

Yes where is Krib.

[Army_of_Darkness]

FF7R and the last of us 2. Perfect way to end a generation!

[goldwyncq]

God of War 5 and HZD sequel will probably be announced next E3.

[leejohnson222]

Definitely hzd maybe too soon for God of war but I wouldn't complain.
Be good to see something from insomniac and others. I would like new ips

[Welshy]

Should be interesting to see how PS5 launch titles utilize the new features on the controller, especially the 1st part games.

Killzone Shadowfall and The Playroom at PS4 launch were alot of fun to mess around with the new camera/controller input.

[robtion]

Sorry but can anyone tell me what holiday 2020 means? I assume this is a US thing? Is it June?

[derektweed1]

It means the run up to Christmas were people usually buy a lot of stuff. Especially games and games consoles for their kids.

[Welshy]

It's US term for anywhere between October and December generally.

[robtion]

Oh okay. Cool, thanks.

[BioShockGX]

My new wife.
Sorry ps4

[LOGICWINS]

You DOG! 😆

[Leeroyw]

I'm going to show up to your games room with the Cheaters film crew.

[Nyxus]

Nice, day one!

[GaboonViper]

Day zero dawn.

[ShinjukuSon]

Horizon Infinite Dawn?

[OneEyedSteve]

Ain't no way I'm buying another PS launch console. They are always riddled with issues.

[Nyxus]

wut? Still using my launch PS4, zero issues.

[Sniperwithacause]

Same

[RpgSama]

Lol, I had a day one Ps4 and nothing EVER happened to it until I traded it in for a Ps4 Pro.

[SnakeEyeP911]

Same here. And the guy i sold it to is a friend, so i know its still kicking

[Neonridr]

agreed, and then got rid of that Pro for a 500 million Pro. I haven't had issues with any of my consoles actually unless you go back to my launch 360.

[KickSpinFilter]

Same

[rainslacker]

I used to repair consoles, and while I know they had issues, I wouldn't say any of them were widespread, or beyond standard fail rates for electronics. I had an issue with the ps1 laser where you'd have to turn the system upside down, then learned to tweak the laser, which is what led me to start repairing consoles as a side job. Most issues were confined to one or two revisions, and it wasnt always just the launch ones. The ps2 had more issues with version 3-5, but 1&2 and 6-8( next to last before the super slim) were all great

Other than that, all my launch consoles worked great for years. Ps4 did have the rubber come off the analog stick, along with a 2nd controller I brought. Sony would have replaced it under warranty, but I was lazy and never made a claim in time

[yoshatabi]

I had a day 1 PS4 and it lasted me all this time. Only reason why I got rid of it was because I wanted that Spider-Man PS4 pro. Lol

[RedDevils]

I have a pro and the original and both still run like new.

[2pacalypsenow]

That was last gen.

[Kaedro]

Unfortunately I have to agree with you. I bought my PS1 and PS2 one or two years after launch and never had any problems. But my PS3 (and my cousins PS3) which were bought on launch month both had the YLOD, so I will always wait at least 1 year before buying a new console.

[RedDevils]

Never with my phat PS3 until I jailbroke it which end up running like a jet pack lmao

[anonymousfan]

I usually prefer second iterations of most consoles but just for the quietter and smaller size factors... Riddled with issues? What are you even talking about?

[Ristul]

Maybe he ment to say xbox 360.

[mkis007]

Whatever your issues were , playstation has never had an above normal failure rated console.

[derektweed1]

The PS3 had reported failure rates around 10%. No where near the 360 but still what I'd call above normal.

[mkis007]

10% isnt considered above average for electronics. 3-4 years into life average is 15% fail rate for consumer electronics according to squaretrade.

[Mylove1516]

Main issue I saw came from not maintaining the PS4 itself. If not cleaned and kept dust free as possible they got really really loud when the cooling fans kicked off.

What issues was the PS4 riddled with?

[Muzikguy]

I'm on my launch PS4 too.

[Segata]

All consoles are at launch. Not just Sony.

[Thunder_G0d_Bane]

Duhhhh

I've been saying its gonna be fall 2020 for the longest time.... It's pretty obvious.

[yoshatabi]

You want a cookie? 🍪

[Neonridr]

*Holiday.

[Segata]

OMG! Like so true! WIll you predict the sun will rise tomorrow as well?!

[UhOh]

It can always be delayed.

[Ceaser9857361]

Now waiting for Sony to Announce if they will do PSX this year or a separate Conference for The PS5 reveal.

[JaXion5]

Why would they showcase the console a full year before it's release?

[Good-Smurf]

It can happen,Sony showcasing the PS4 less than 10 months before it release.

[bluefox755]

2020 is going to be hard on the wallet.

[anonymousfan]

I for sure will buy a PS5 sooner or later but with the kind of backlog that I have I'm not sure I'll grab one next year... I am super happy it'll be backwards compatible though but then again I don't want to get rid of my PS4 pro GoW edition :(

[The_Sage]

It sure Will, blue. I'm planning on finally getting a BIG 4k set to go with the PS5, which means I'll need to get a new receiver as I run everything to it then to the TV. My current receiver will not pass 4k though.

I figure my PS5 should cost me about $5,000.

[spambot0815]

will it be the primary controller for vr or will psvr2 get a seperated controller, that's what i would like to know?

[Neonridr]

It was already said that PSVR2 won't be releasing anytime soon, so there could very well be a new controller for PSVR2 when it eventually comes along.

[spambot0815]

ok, but there still is psvr1 so can/will the new ps5 controller replace move?

[Neonridr]

@spambot0815 - I would like to think that devs will utilize the enhancements this controller will provide for VR applications as these sorts of enhancements lend well to further immersing a player. Only drawback is VR plays much better when your hands are free, so these sorts of improvements would have been awesome on updated Move controllers. I don't particularly like using my PSVR with a dualshock.

[porkChop]

Haptic feedback was a no-brainer. It really adds to the experience in some Switch games, it's far superior to regular rumble.

Adaptive triggers wasn't something I ever thought about tbh. That's really cool. That could make for some really interesting experiences.

[dumahim]

It's an interesting concept, but I think it's just going to wind up being something you don't really notice after the novelty of it wears off. I just hope it isn't another thing to drain the battery.

[OB1Biker]

When your weapons triggers feel different you certainly notice.

[akaFullMetal]

Controller sounds really good! Hopefully battery life will be longer and because it's on USB c, hopefully it will have fast charging at least?
Ps5 having a super jump in CPU, GPU and ssd, I cant wait to get this under my tv.

[yoshatabi]

I don't think it has ssd

[Nyxus]

It's been confirmed to have SSD months ago

[badz149]

@yoshatabi

LOL where have you been, man?

[Neonridr]

it will have it's own form of SSD. Don't think of traditional SSD's, think more along the lines of a custom M.2 drive or something like that. Speeds are going to be considerably faster than what console users are accustomed to.

[froy402]

Get back under your rock,, you.

[Kribwalker]

both xbox next and ps5 have already been confirmed to have SSD

[rainslacker]

Someone doesn't read gamingbolt articles

[criticalkare]

I guess ps5 conference sometime in feb? Or psx 2019?

[SethBrundlefly]

"“There is ray-tracing acceleration in the GPU hardware,” he says, “which I believe is the statement that people were looking for.” (new Wired article)

[1-pwnsause-1]

to me, it just means that AMD does have a a navi ray tracing card in the back burner, probably didnt released it now cause it would be pricy like the 2080, just waiting to release it next year i guess

[Fraggle1987]

Sounds really good. Nice smart additions.

[Majin-vegeta]

SHADDAP AND TAKE MY MONEY!!!

[maximumspidey]

please don't do anything stupid with the controllers sony

[Mylove1516]

As long as it has a better battery life and the thumbsticks are good quality I will be happy.

My launch PS4 controller had the material tear on the right thumbstick but they fixed that later but not the battery unfortunately.

Also if it was a bit bigger to accommodate my larger hand size it would be nice. I'm not saying the DS4 is bad because it does a very good job but I need it to be a little bigger.

[maximumspidey]

this is exactly what I want but they need to stop shoving things into the controller that possibly increase it's price and reduces battery life.

[Neonridr]

sounds great. Can't wait to see more. No surprise that it's coming Holiday 2020, we all sorta knew that both consoles were going to release at basically the same time again.

[jznrpg]

Give me it give me it give me it

[sprinterboy]

I have no doubts the ps5 will he amazing and as usual a relaxed but excited Day1 launch party owner but my main purchase nxt year will be a top of the range 4k sony bravia with a mid range dolby atmos setup.
All 3 purchases will be match made in heaven even though its gonna set me back about £3,500 yikes.

[The_Sage]

I'm in exactly the same boat. Well... Not exactly. I haven't settled on a TV yet. I just know it has to be 75 inch or bigger.

[sprinterboy]

That's what she said 😋 I've been holding out for the hdmi 2.1

[The_Sage]

Lmao! Yeah... HDMI 2.1 is also on my list. It's going to be pricey.

[sprinterboy]

I recently helped my parents purchase a 4ktv and they went with £799 Samsung, specs seemed alright for the low/mid range and I was astonished how crap it was tbh, the artifacts on sports like football was awful and that was a 2018 model? We're gonna need a 2020 model at least but like you said it's pricey. I will get the 55 inch probably £2,500 but maybe a bit less or a free dolby atmos sound bar thrown in on a black friday deal would prefer the 65“ but with the hdmi 2.1 it's gonna be over 3,000 and ain't paying that.
Amazes me how many gamers are playing on shit 4ktv under £500 with pro and x and they say there disappointed, like no shit sherlock, try not buying a shit 4k tele over black friday lol

[The_Sage]

Yeah... Sometimes you get what you pay for. I've seen a 75 inch for $749.99. I'm sure a lot of people are going to be lured in by the price then be disappointed with their purchase.

[Relientk77]

I'm already excited for Holiday 2020 and Holiday 2019 hasn't even happened yet lol

[sprinterboy]

Agreed, in fact fuck holidays 2019 and just skip to holiday 2020

[excaliburps]

When I heard "triggers' mentioned I was hoping that'd mean we'd be getting paddles and back buttons as a standard. Ugh! Well, there's still a chance of it. :D

[Neonridr]

you can always go with the 3rd party controllers like SCUF, etc if you are interested in paddles.

[excaliburps]

I am using those but wanted them to be standard for PS5. :)

[Neonridr]

@excaliburps - fair enough, SCUF controllers can be pretty darn expensive too.

[Bigman4k]

Yeah pretty much knew ps5 was gonna launch in 2020 same as Microsoft with their next gen Xbox would be coming in holiday 2020

[Stanjara]

I like this news. I can imagine that they will update this for Last of us part 2: going through grass, water, mud. Felling being in cover, bow tension, different weapons feel, clicking of empty clip, climbing a rope some kind of swing, heart beat huhuuhuuuu. Yes

[Limitedtimestruggle]

As expected they won't drop physical media, which is nice! I hope they won't change how the controller feels in my hands. I really believe they nailed the ergonomics with the DS4, it kind of melts into the hands!

[Artemidorus]

Told I was right all along, I also know a little bit more too but I'll wait till I find out it's true.

[sprinterboy]

Gts already updated and bc compatible

[OzzY-waZZy]

I can't freaking wait... Every day I hope for just a trickle of info on PS5. Imagine when they start showing launch trailers..

[sprinterboy]

🍻🤯

[TheGamez100]

To noones surprise. Cant wait.

[Traecy]

Not surprising knowing most PS fans with common sense knew next gen consoles are released at the end of the year especially in the USA including the PS5 being released in 2020.

[JLynn943]

Hopefully developers do a better job implementing these controller features than they did with the touch pad. Seems like they'll have to with the haptic feedback at least.

[Orionsangel]

Already? Well as long as it's backwards compatible with my PS4 games. I'm for it.

[akaFullMetal]

Ps5 confirmed ps4 backwards compatible.

[NobleRed]

Day one.

[Garethvk]

Already been planning for it so nice to know we all have a year and change to save up for it.

[nucky64]

well, this article also guarantees GoT is a ps4 title. with so little news coming, i thought it might end up as a ps5 launch title.

[MatrixxGT]

Ability to only install the MP or SP or both portions of the game is awesome. Hopefully when games update you won’t have to constantly update a game just because the MP portion is getting new loot boxes.

[Segata]

How about battery life in the controller? I can get 40 hours out of the Switch Pro controller. I want at least 25 out of the DS5.

[RedDevils]

Agree.

[IRetrouk]

Really looking forward to next gen, hope to see some interesting stuff from devs using the new controller features. The excitement is starting to get real now.

[lazyboyblue]

Another cool feature for 3rd parties to completely ignore like the ps4 touchpad.

[IRetrouk]

I don't know man, they made good use of the haptic triggers on the xbox pad, I'm sure a whole controllers worth of haptic plus the adaptive triggers will be used a fair bit, I'm looking forward to seeing what they do with it.

[Firebird360]

So glad they didnt ditch the speaker. I love when random sounds come from it. It adds so much to games imo.

[4kgk76]

Sony getting ready to dominate another console generation.

[Sevir]

Ray Tracing is GPU Hardware accelerated... Happy to hear they've actual granular hardware dedicated to achieving this on a system level.

[Lexreborn2]

I wonder if MS will try to beat Sony to the Market for next gen or will they try to release in the same window. It looks like Sony is setting the pace for next Gen again.

[Kribwalker]

setting the pace? MS announced in june that they wee releasing Scarlett in holidays 2020 timeframe, and some of the features announced today (haptic feedback, 4k bluray, trigger feedback, and the ability to install portions of games) are already out this gen on the xbox and switch. What pace are they setting?

[IRetrouk]

Well to be fair sony announced the ps5 back in April, no date but deffo got the drop on ms there.
The xbox pad only has haptic triggers, the rest of it uses normal motors, what sony is doing is actually using haptic in the whole controller and then being able to change the resistance of the triggers based on what's happening in game so they can feel tough to push or easy etc, they are calling it adaptive feedback, not even the same thing as haptic triggers.
The ps4 also has games you can choose what to download first, I would guess they would be mostly the same games as the ones that do it on xbox, xbox does get the bluray player though, that's not debatable.

[AllMightyFox]

1 word from a long time PlayStation owner about the PS5 ……. UGLY !!!

[akaFullMetal]

They haven't shown what the ps5 looks like?
Unless you're talking about the dev kit? Final designs systems never look like the dev kit.

[iplay1up2]

Good for Sony! Seriously brilliant! Usually Nintendo has been groundbreaking in new controllers. I never would've thought of that! I am sure Microsoft will follow suit, in some fashion!!

[Kribwalker]

MS has had those controller features this gen already, and nintendo has with the switch with HD Rumble

[IRetrouk]

The xbox pad does not have these features, it has haptic triggers that is it, what sony has done is use haptics throughout the controller, along with triggers that can change resistance based on what's going on in the game, the xbox pad does none of these.

[Xavi4K]

Here....we....go!!!!

[Ausbo]

I wonder if this means ps4 controllers won’t work with the ps5

[Pacifico]

Oh yes...haptic feedback and adaptive triggers. Take my $500 please...im an xbox guy (yes i have a ps4 also) but this next gen aint gonna knock any1s socks off. Im glad all new xbox scarlet games will run on the x1 cause im waiting. Sonys talking better load times...no thanks ill keep my dough and catch up on ps4 single player games.

[Pacifico]

Holy shxt im reading all the game changer and day one comments...ur moms must be buying this 4 u.

[Nyxus]

Most people here are over 14, unlike you.

[Pacifico]

Ouch...good burn.

[rainslacker]

Wish my mom would. Thatd be awesome. Also means she would still be alive. A live mom, and saving 500 bucks sounds like a world I'd love to live in.

[Pacifico]

Cue violins...I miss ur mom too

[rainslacker]

Thanks for your pity. I really appreciate it.

[OB1Biker]

Same!
🙏

[UhOh]

Yeah it's sad isn't it.

[fatbastard11]

I wonder what these enhanced controllers mean for erotic games?

[ziggurcat]

I called this years ago when rumours started rumbling about the next gen system coming in 2019.

[BlaqMagiq1]

Automatic Day 1. PS5 is set to dominate next gen just like PS4 did. And I will be there every step of the way.

[The_Sage]

Very cool details... One of them being that Ghosts of Tsushima will be on PS4.

[Mithan]

Sounds great. Adaptive triggers will be great, especially for a game like Horizons.

[Wallow]

I hope we found out whether the backward compatibility is with psychical games. Digital seems obvious.

[Protagonist]

Lets go!

[XiNatsuDragnel]

Epic console.

[GamingSinceForever]

Business as usual with the Playstation. The new controller sounds nice. Now they just need some new 3D headphones to couple with the controller.

[Dragonopolis]

Never liked rumble so I always turn it off. Turning off rumble does not affect my gameplay or immersion.

My fear is Next Gen Games will become dependent on haptic feed back. I hope the controller will be useable and comfortable when in use with haptic feed back turned off. I hope games will be just as playable with haptics off as it will be for those who leave it on.

Please Sony and Gaming community give players choice don't force it.

[gold_drake]

YES YES YES
I'm soooo excited :)

[flappo]

Can't wait to get one

The SSD alone is worth the update !

[DaniMacYo]

PlayStation I’m already sold just take my money!

[Thundercat77]

I already pre-ordered the PS5... In my soul.