Microsoft needs a big Xbox win to compete with Sony as the industry approaches the next gen. It's banking on The Coalition's Gears 5 shooter to provide just that.
MS introducing the XBO as an entertainment device was definitely a fumble and that really put a dent in their early sales of the system. But MS had several opportunities to bounce back and they failed at each one. The X was supposed to be their ‘save & grace’ by introducing 4K and uncompromise graphics. But instead, their 4K machine can barely do 4K. Mine you, the Xbox community didn’t care about resolution until the X arrived. The only ones that hype up that joke of a machine is DF and their inbreed followers. But staying on topic, while Gears 5 is a great game, it’s way to late in the current gen cycle for MS to bank on anything with that one game, especially when it’s compared to Sony’s lineup. MS needed to make something new, something fresh by introducing a new IP. However they continued to rely on the same tired 3 franchises that eventually bite them in butt. It’s a shame that it took MS five years to make one game on their system that’s worth talking about.
"But MS had several opportunities to bounce back and they failed at each one." What opportunities would that be? "But instead, their 4K machine can barely do 4K." But it does do 4k I agree MS definitely needs something new. Have the same quality of Gears 5 with new ip. "It’s a shame that it took MS five years to make one game on their system that’s worth talking about." That's not true FH4, Ori and even SoT. You say old franchises bite them in the butt so far they're the only games critically acclaimed and keeping them a float. As I'm mention Forza last year Gears this year and probably HI next year.
By opportunities I mean the two E3 conferences (one being exclusive to them) and the one Gamecoms conference. These were ‘major’ opportunities for them to show the consumer why they should not only purchase the XBOX, but why we just invest heavily into the Xbox ecosystem overall. Unfortunately they failed at every event. They failed at showing any new games, they did however purchase all of these studios, but again we have to wait and see what these companies do.
People believe games are made in weeks. Lol "they had many chances!"
""But instead, their 4K machine can barely do 4K." But it does do 4k" Stopped here to laugh. "You are perhaps the worst pirate I've ever heard of. But you have heard of me." ***** "they're the only games critically acclaimed and keeping them a float." How are Sea of Thieves and, Forza 4(?) critically acclaimed. Where's any evidence that those games are keeping the Xbox "afloat" when no sales numbers are released?
@godmars “How are Sea of Thieves and, Forza 4(?) critically acclaimed. Where's any evidence that those games are keeping the Xbox "afloat" ” Sea of Thieves has become a pretty solid new IP after all of the updates, But Forza Horizon 4 is the highest rated exclusive racer of this gen. It has over 12 million players and more than 4 million people play it still every month. https://n4g.com/news/229010... That game is both commercially and critically acclaimed. As far as this article, it will take a lot more than gears 5 for them to rival sony’s exclusives, but with them buying up all those studios and starting the initiative, the future does look bright for them to get there
@Kribwalker: Don't know what to tell you. What would register past a mindset that ignores how much Gamepass makes reported numbers worthless. Numbers that don't equate with sales or anything approaching substance.
I agree with Kohox said.
Damn bot you're trying too hard, are you gonna cry now?
When you mean barely you actually mean you are referring to that fake 4K wanna be the PS4 Pro right? That console was the biggest scam this gen: a 4K device without a 4K disc player, that calls quasi 4K rendering, 4K. I fell for it and bought one. I like it over my old PS4 but, not the way the X has changed my idea of what good console gaming on 4K can be like now. Obviously you don't own an X and I can tell you there are a great deal of games doing real 4K. Not this barely any games idea you want to propagate. True, not all games but those developers that took the time work with work well at 4K on the system show what is possible. And never did MS say it would be 100% 4K with everything. And that same idea will continue for next-gen consoles from Sony and Microsoft, who promises by all accounts in (or at least is expected to be 4K 60fps by most gamers - shameful if it is not mostly after the X being able to do it already at 30fps and even sometimes at 60fps) but, it won't be. Games will be 30fps. There will be games using quasi 4K techniques to fake true 4K. In your book will that make them barely 4K next-gen as well?. "Staying on topic" After you spend 90% of the time trashing on the Xbox with non-topic comments. "the Xbox community didn’t care about resolution until the X arrived" LOL! As opposed to you the PS community who only cared about resolution until the X arrived. As for tired franchises? You mean like Sony relying on games like Uncharted which has more iterations than the slightly older Gears game series (seriously Gears has basically 5 releases and reimagining of the original game, Uncharted has 5 different releases and several collections/redos) or Or God of War has more iterations then Halo but Halo has been around three years longer. Those type of tired games from Sony are still around and being used over and over more readily then Xbox staples. Forza games at least skips a year and changes quite a bit . Strange people on the PS end don't seem to ever mention The Show being released every year but little changes (heck lets be honest people pick on FIFA but it is the MLB that is a real ripoff). SOT a new IP at 19 months after its release still has millions playing it each month. Actively updated. Can Spider-Man only a year old say as much? Heck, can any Sony game say it has a large population playing after a month or two its release? I am sure you can point to sale numbers but, even Sony realizes it is MAU numbers that actually tell the value of game not how many bought the game. Sony has even started to use MAU rather then sale numbers. AS for DF. You mean the same DF that was sparkle in every PS fan boys eye when they bent over backwards last gen with their support of the PS3 And lets not pretend they have been rosy for Xbox. It is just that they don't get all gushy over your favorite little plastic the way they use to. No DF is evil and biased because they have been positive for the Xbox On X. How can that be? That must mean they are bad and hype machines. Talk about PS4 fanboy boy logic. DF followers? Seriously did you get booted off there by the meanies? I find the DF users and comments from varying points of views so much less toxic then N4G. People are much more cordial and less my console over yours (there is that, but so much less of it). Often people on either side of the debate will not put up with flat out crap that goes on here.
Well if you read the article (which you didn’t) I was responding to a section that the author mentioned. It’s interesting that you got this bent out of shape because you felt someone was talking about your precious piece of plastic. Grow up inbreed, the only fanboy in this convo is clearly you. Clown.
I respect a lot of the stuff you say here. You shouldn't say the pro was the biggest scam this generation though. It did what it was designed to do, and I'm happy I bought one.
The biggest scam was Kinect. At least the Pro has content. Can't say that about Kinect.
Somebody struck a nerve :) Relax man it's a piece of plastic.
Wow, I bet you were just crying while you typed all that.
Thanks for the laugh, that was good!
Ladies and Gents we have an MS General Shil in our midst.
@gumby There have been 7 God of War games, 9 if you want to count mobile games. There have been 9 Halo games, 11 if you count mobile. Plus another one on the way. Uncharted has 6 games and 2 spin-offs (mobile and card game). Gears of War has 6 games and 2 spin-offs (funco pop game and strategy game). How do you expect people to take you seriously when what you say is nonsense? The reason people say Halo, Gears, Forza are tired franchises is because those are pretty much the only franchises Microsoft have that are worth anything. They do have a few new IPs sprinkled here and there, but again they haven’t made a big impact (other than Ori, I guess). This gen Sony has more new IPs than they do Uncharted or GoW games. Microsoft on the other hand has more Halo, Gears, Forza games this gen than new IPs. BTW, the Kinect was the biggest scam, by definition, this gen. They coerced people to buy one by bundling it with the Xbox One claiming it was an integral part of the Xbox One. That was rather dishonest. Coming in a close second was the promise of the cloud enhancing the performance of the Xbox One. Lie.
You should write a book next time. 😂😂
The biggest scam this gen was the xbox. . . Ms Lied, deceived, over promised and under performed for the whole gen. That essay of damage control is indicative of what ms has done to its fans.
Gears 5 quality would have been more appreciable if it had come out 2-3 years ago, when the generation wasn't winding down. This game allows them to point towards a big recent game when they start to ramp up for next gen, because the last couple years, MS has only been setting themselves up for next gen, and they really don't care what happens this gen anymore. One game won't rival Sony this gen. Especially since Sony seems to have a few games coming out for the rest of this gen which have the potential to overshadow this one game. But, when those start getting released, MS will be talking about how Halo on Scarlett is going to be the biggest thing ever.
Microsoft is in 3rd behind Nintendo. Microsoft needs to do some soul searching before they try taking on Sony.
I just have one question for you.... Has it always been "Save & Grace" and not "Saving Grace"?
Good point!! My bad, thanks for the correction. 👍🏿
Some sites are subtle in their clickbait. Then there's this ccn site. Part of me appreciates the unabashed approach. I'm guessing it'll be successful in getting those clicks too. But, no, Gears is doing what it was meant to do-- nothing more. It's a great game that reminds fans of what Xbox games should be: Strong SP, strong MP, and solid graphics. In other words, it's Gears. Coming this late in the generation, it serves as a nice product for fans, and will likely act as a good show piece along with Halo to demonstrate the cross gen capabilities of Scarlet. It's obviously also meant to get people subbed to GP before next gen. I suspect one of the new studios or second teams is working on that AAA, narrative-driven, 3rd person action adventure game meant to "compete" with Sony's offerings. Let Gears just be Gears.
The initiative is led by the guy who rebooted tombraider and they have recruited a lot of Sony staff. Developers from uncharted and God of war have been poached. Should be interesting. https://www.windowscentral....
with just 1 game? HAHAHAHA seriously, how much money did MS spend for these suckers to write these ridiculous articles after the launch of Gears 5? remember last gen when the media was sure as hell the PS4 is going to fail and the next xbox will dominate this gen due to the popularity of the 360 despite Sony releasing great exclusives one after another for the PS3 that put the 360's library to shame? LOL so what has changed?
Actually, the main problem with Gears 5 is the lack of articles by the main media (gamespot, Ign, etc) Like I said in another post, Gamespot produced 10 articles since the release date (been 10 days) vs Bordeland 3 that already made 30+ in only 4 days. Have you seen the numerous guide for Gears5? cause I haven't (Ign is currently showing more guide at the moment in the news feed for Batman ps4 due to PS+ compare to Gears that has only 1 for relic weapon). Here's IGN Gears 5 wiki page https://ca.ign.com/wikis/ge...
MS needs more than Gears Of War to be able to rival Sony. Sony has more to offer its audience than MS.Let see what those studios they just bought will be able to do for them even tho MS should have done this when they entered the business.
Gears is mostly going to appeal to fans of the series. I'm sure if its good, it can pick up some new fans along the way, and going to PC can help that as well. But overall, MS needs to entice people who aren't otherwise interested in Xbox. Going towards PC doesn't mean they can't try and make something of their console, because if the Xbox console can't manage to make more headway in the market, then that just makes MS a game publisher on PC, who happen to have their own store, who they happen to not even keep their games exclusive to. I know MS motives on PC are different than the console market, but the Xbox brand rides on the console, and PC gamers aren't going to fight over if MS is the best thing ever like their console warriors do. To a PC gamer, MS is just another publisher, who now have a cheap game download service, which may or may not go anywhere when it becomes regular price.
And let's be honest here..that game coming out by Ninja Theory looks like shit.
That is a side, second team project. Not from the team responsible for Hellblade.
Maybe if they can iron out the bugs in it, Geezus it’s been a roller coaster of highs and lows playing this game.
On PC I experience frequent crashes. There is plenty of other people with he same problem and I guess the problem occurred in Gears 4 as well. No fix for it yet, hopefully soon. I cant play more than about 10-20 minutes
Yea, to me, this shows that there’s no Quality Assurance with these releases. It’s unacceptable, but what Gears does right it does really well. Still, it doesn’t come close to being as amazing as Gears of War 3.
Well been running the game on PC since days 1 and had no problems at all. Geforce GTX970 with 16 gig ram
@petebloodyonion Lucky you, This is only the 2nd game I have had problems with on PC (Arkham Knight) is the other. I would be mad if I spent $60 but $2 for gamepass I cant be mad. Thank god I didnt buy it.
One game is not enough to be a "game changer" for MS, if they can consistently keep this up all next gen THAT will be a game changer.
Game-changer? I don't think one game can really do that much. But this is certainly a great start. If they can consistently put out games of this quality next gen they'll be in great shape.
I think MS just scored a winner. Gears 5 is surely the game that will sell 50 million + Xbox units this season and stomp out Sony. This I can promise you with my life.
Nah. People know he's just trying to get a rise out of people, and is a jokester. if he was serious, then that would be another story.
I appreciate the humour mate.
Good to see you back to form...but I think you went too far on the obvious sarcasm side of things. I prefer the less obvious sarcasm troll you do so well.
Well you had a good run.
The game is boring.
It's a step in the right direction. The new studio acquisitions are a good start, but will take time to pay off. They have a long road to travel. However, with their focus being subs and services, who knows?
Full of microtransactions, so it's just more garbage
There still people that think Microsoft can win against Sony and Nintendo in the consoles space in current year it’s obvious that Microsoft gave up on trying to win against their competition in the console space a long time ago.Microsoft main focus now is services and bringing their games and services to as many places as possible to make as much profit as possible.
Lol no it'd a good game but MS has lost thos gen and has a LONG way to go if it wants to beat Sony or Ninty next gen (which I dont think it will).
[email protected] Gears 5 was a great game like you said but it wasn’t a amazing generation defining game like god of war and spider man and uncharted 4 and horizon zero dawn and Zelda breath of the wild and Mario Odyssey just to name few were. Sony and Nintendo is so a head the game Microsoft would have to do a lot to catch up with them which I don’t see them doing either.
These sensationalist articles over a single game are entertaining.
No, gears has always been good or better. One good-great game won't change anything. Sony has a minimum of 3, and usually far more, great exclusive games each year. To have a game changer they need quality in volume. They also need something new. For me gears has always been amazing, one of my favourite franchises. But not everyone likes it's cover shooting mechanics. Hence they need something new as well.
As much as I love Gears 5, it's not the only game that can compare with Sony or even Nintendo, they need to keep a steady stream of first party's before we can say this, hopefully they can keep it up but Gears 5 on its own isn't enough
The short answer is NO! As great and fun as Gears5 is it's not the messiah that will help turn Xbox around. Now don't get me wrong Gears 5 is a Masterpiece and a sure value for your $ but let's be honest here, the media already made this game irrelevant by outing a pre-review (that became in some case the main review) focusing only on the single porton of the game and avoiding to discuss the reasons why the majority plays Gears in the 1st place. Quick question to prove this point? How many articles from main media have we seen related to Gears since pre-review? barely any compare to just Bordeland 3. FYI Since the release date (10 days), there's a total of 10 articles directly related to gears5 on Gamespot vs 31 articles for Borderland 3 (4 days). Now, the real question that PPL should ask is: Why are ppl expecting MS to try to topple Sony dominance? Here let me put differently? Venom was a fun movie, Deadpool was a fun movie. Were they supposed to dethrone Disney dominance? Aside Spiderman, what movie did Sony picture (or other) create to beat Disney? Should they stop making movies then because they are not # 1 at the end of the year? My point is, it's clear that MS is aiming to establish Gamepass as a great option to the average gamers that spend around 100 to 200$ per year, not the same kind of customers like the ppl here that could easily spend that in 1 month.
As an owner of both Xbox One and PlayStation 4, I can honestly say no. If Microsoft is serious they need to make the Coalition and 343 a two game studio, this way they can continue to bring out more Gears and Halo, but give people like me who want something new from them too.
Quit talking about this generation because it's over. Microsoft used their lost wisely and started experimenting with things like Gamepass that might work in their favor Next Gen especially if they have some decent games from those studios that they bought.
I don’t think it is.
MS needs good new IP that rivals games like The Last of Us and God of War
Too little too late.
I love how Gears 5 is bringing so many gamers into it's discussions from people who've never played it before yet feels so strongly in their opinions about it. You're on the right path, Xbox Game Studios needs to keep bringing the heat.
No, one game ain’t gonna turn things round not when the only other game this year was crackdown3 piss poor.
Lol game changer? nah But a start to dig out of a ditch? Sure
They’ve released one top end game and the other day I’m reading they’ve maxed out what the xbox1X can do what a joke they never even maxed out what the launch model can do they just gave up as they thought new slim hardware would increase sales when there were still no or not many serious games being delivered 1 good/great game a year is poor.
It's no game changer. It's a nice Swansong on an underwhelming and disappointing generation for Microsoft. It's certainly not going to bring more gamers into their fold, only satisfy current ones, which is at least something. Sony's Swansong will be Death Stranding, Ghosts and Last of Us. Gears can't rival that as good as it may be.
Think of it in terms of football, if a football team has lost thirteen games in a row and won their fourteenth is any other team really considering them a rival? Gears 5 doesn't put MS in the position of rival, it just gets them out of the position of spectator.
Clearly this article was put out before the Gears5 release and all question have now been answered. NO is the answer to all questions gears5 will change nothing. Gamers are not going to run out and buy a Xbox One to play Gears5 and its unlikely more than a few will purchase Xbox Game Pass on PC to play it. Gears5 scores a 85 if played on a Xbox by critics. That's a pretty good score but Xbox has had games with a higher critic score this gen and if you look at the PC critic score well it drops to a 81 so this game like most Microsoft games is more hype than great game. Again the answer to all questions about Gears5 is NO!
I would say no. Microsoft desperately needs *NEW* IPs. Brand new. That's how they can rival Sony. Oh, and they also have to be good.