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Is a PlayStation Game Pass Viable?

Could Sony realistically mirror Microsoft's popular endeavour?

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CaptainCook35d ago

No. Xbox Game Pass Ultimate includes Xbox Live Gold and PC Game Pass for only $14,99 per month, it can be about $60 for 12 months when on sale.

lxeasy35d ago (Edited 35d ago )

I don't know how Sony could replicate this because I doubt they want to put their games on PC. At the end of the day you get the choice to play your games on two platform with the Gamepass. and on top of that that It all goes down to if Sony wants to continue to charge gamer's $60 to play their games.

NarutoFox35d ago

Didn't Sony just start publishing games on PC? Not to mention you can already play some of Playstation games on PC with PSNOW

AngelicIceDiamond35d ago

@Ieasy I can easily see Sony doing this if MS is successful at it. Unfortunately PSNOW needs a major re-haul in which I think they will re-haul it. Calling it now PS event in Feb. They'll talk about PS5 details and a new PSNOW service. Sony announced that games will be on PC. So far it seems Sony will publish certain games that will be made on PC and possible release on PS as well.

rainslacker35d ago

I wouldn't care so long as they retain the equity of their premier 1st party heavy hitters.

Question is, would sony feel they need to do it to compete, and would they possibly make less in the bigger picture if people weren't buying as many games.

Having more robust numbers from MS game pass would make it easier to consider if itd be good for Sony, but even then, it's up to sony to decide

S2Killinit35d ago (Edited 35d ago )

I dont think losing their quality first party in order to put them ona streaming service would be a smart move, but if they wanted to, it would be just as easy to achieve as it is for MS.

Forn35d ago

I honestly don't see how Game Pass is viable for Microsoft honestly. It's basically Netflix, and Netflix is hundreds of millions (if not billions) of dollars in debt. It feels like something that will eventually implode on itself.

HentaiElmo35d ago

It always bring a smile to my face every time I see angel ice comments of PlayStation EXCLUSIVE games going to PC day one same as Microsoft 😂 🤣 😂 keep dreaming it will happen IF Sony sink 2 gens and the 3rd go a head start and couldn’t keep it 😂🤣😂

The Wood35d ago

Judging by the gears numbers I'm not sure how sustainable game pass is. You need a high number of subscribers for the game providers to get proper payback.

agnosticgamer35d ago

They don't need to put their games on PC. It could simply be an option for the console.

ABizzel135d ago

Sony and Nintendo can make a direct competitor to GamePass, but neither company wants to because Sony's exclusives help define their console, and Nintendo's exclusives completely define their console.

Xbox as of late has been 1 AAA game (Halo, Forza, Gears), a few AA games, and a few indies per year. Gamepass provides 3rd party games gamers would play, but wouldn't spend money on, plus Xbox first-party which outside of the AAA most of their gamers wouldn't spend money on. So GamePass for Xbox is an easy sale for MS and their gamers. Especially having the lower install base.

Sony and Nintendo know their exclusives will do well because Sony's exclusives generally break 1 million in sales, which means most of their games break even and then go on to make a profit and Nintendo budgets are way less for their games so they generally only need to sell a few hundred thousand to break even. And considering both platforms are selling extremely well and both platforms are doing well in software, there is no reason for either company to cut into the millions their exclusives make to hand them out for free.

However, if Sony really wanted to compete they could simple update PS+, to add more games and include a PSNow option. Have PS+ cost $60 / $4.99/mo on PS5 and offer 2 PS4 games, 2 PSVR games, and 1 - 2 PS5 games, but also have a $100 / $9.99/mo offer that gives PS+ and PSNow and fill the PSNow library with PS4 / PSVR / PS3 / PS2 / PS1 / PSP / PSV games and the occasional PS5 games with PS5 early access and other features. That would be Sony's competitor.

Nintendo is behind on the feature / online aspects of gaming, but if they can expand on their current SNES offering to include best of Wii U, Wii, GameCube, N64, SNES, NES, 3DS, DS, GBA, GB then they could have something as well by giving new life to those games and adding multiplayer features to games that didn't have them before.

Obscure_Observer34d ago

@rainslacker

"I wouldn't care so long as they retain the equity of their premier 1st party heavy hitters."

But you said it wouldn´t be possible for Microsoft due Gamepass service model. How it would be possible for Sony?

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isarai35d ago

What's the difference? You pay a sub fee, you get access to games

lxeasy35d ago

Psnow is not as good as Gamepass, Stop pretending like it is

isarai35d ago (Edited 35d ago )

Didn't say it was or wasn't, don't put words in my mouth.

Kran35d ago

No it's not.

But it's the same thing except with streaming (though some you can download). You pay a subscription and have a huge choice of games. LITERALLY LIKE XBOX GAME PASS.

Silly gameAr35d ago

Stop pretending that Gamepass is some innovative feature. MS pretty much had to implement something like gamepass, or they would have been left in the dust this gen.

King_Noctis35d ago

“Didn't say it was or wasn't, don't put words in my mouth.”

That is why people request for Gamepass-like service on PS4.

“Stop pretending that Gamepass is some innovative feature. ”

Umm who say it is? And who say it need to be innovative?

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DaDrunkenJester35d ago

No, as in GamePass where 1st party games launch day and date on the service.

isarai35d ago (Edited 35d ago )

Why would they do that when their games sell amazingly well on their own? Not saying it wouldn't be cool, but it doesn't make sense when they've never had issues getting their games out there.

DaDrunkenJester35d ago

Because it means they could get subscription money on games that people wouldn't have bought at full price or even $30.

xX-oldboy-Xx35d ago

Thats doesn't sound very genuine for a company to do that. Make people pay for a subscription for sub par games they wouldn't normally buy under the guise of - Day 1 1st party games.

And don't forget most of the 1st party stuff has been shovelware.

I do hope people wake up to ms's tactics, take the blinkers off you lot.

DaDrunkenJester35d ago

@Oldboy

Shovelware? lol I shouldn't even bother responding to this comment. Just because a game doesn't hit the precious 8+ or it's a game you don't like.. doesn't make it shovelware.

Knushwood Butt35d ago

What's the GamePass lineup for the next 12 months?

ThankYouSir35d ago

@Knushwood

Start with Gears 5? Then there is The Outer Worlds, Wasteland 3, Ori 2, Battletoads, Halo Infinite, Bleeding Edge, Minecraft Dungeons, Microsoft Flight simulator... and then I'm sure a bunch of 3rd party ranging from indies to games like DMCV and Metro Exodus...

CoinOrc35d ago

Completely missed isarai’s point. People have no problem paying $60 for Sony’s numerous stellar exclusives. If they offer their exclusives day one on psnow, they would have to increase the price of psnow to make up the difference. MS have to offer Xbox game pass at such a low price because their exclusives line up has been mediocre.

xX-oldboy-Xx35d ago

DaDrunken - Thank you for lowering your standards and replying. Fact is CD3 is shovelware, SoD2 is shovelware, SoT is shovelware - these are facts. Seems ms has given their subscribers less value than one would believe.

Knushwood Butt35d ago

@ ThankYouSir

Thank you Sir.

I wonder how this will work with the Scarlett launch? The first party launch titles on gamepass with a couple of third party efforts on there too for some big cash in advance?

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Magic_Spatula35d ago

Both are similar in that you pay a service fee to play games but PSNow is mainly streaming the game with several titles being downloadable (not sure if all of them are) but Game Pass I believe does not have a streaming feature and all titles are downloadable to the hard drive. Not sure if Microsoft will be adding streaming games at a later date. Also, Games cycle in and out of Game Pass but I'm not sure if that's the case with PSNow since I haven't used it since the first few months it was released.

rainslacker35d ago

All ps4 games can be downloaded to a ps4. Games do cycle in and out of psnow, but it doesn't seem to be as frequently as game pass. Overall, psnow has more games to choose from. For a while psnow had more downloadable ps4 games than game pass had total games. I dont know if that's still true or not.

crazyCoconuts35d ago

I think you can download all the PS4 games. PS3 are stream only. PSNow could easily rival GamePass by giving away all their exclusives and running $1 specials, but that's probably not wise for them given the # of great exclusives they have that people are willing to pay full price for...

ImGumbyDammit35d ago (Edited 35d ago )

@ timing intererpolitatio
"All"
Not to nitpick but there are 3 or 4 PS4 tittles that last time I checked (in June) that could not be downloaded. Maybe that has changed in the last few months.

More games to choose from. Debatable on the PS4 vs Xbox One games. Especially considering PS4 catalog in PSNow will do several overlaps of the same game (e.g. 4 different versions of F1 Racing and even then there is a more recent version of F1 Racing on GP catalog). The quality of this gen content is also important and very deficient in PSNow. the content this gen in comparison can be quite old, lots of filler content and less desirable so in the end it doesn't matter even if you have twice the current gen games in the catalog if the overall is not on the same level as the more supported competitor. And considering that every game GP is local play (including XB and XB360 BC games) you are never dealing with the need for a good internet connection to stream anything.

As for more last gen games. Sure, PSNow has more of those but, then again that is the only way you can play them on a PS4. Where as if you own an Xbox360 BC game (or want to buy them) you can and play it locally for free (no GP needed) and not take hit on original quality (PSNow forced 30fps and 720p), no need to worry about the internet working well enough when you want to play or paying to play for something you already own (and 360 BC catalog on Xbox One is greater then 600 games).

PSNows' problem is several fold. First, they need to get the pricing down and have a package competitive with GP Ultimate. Secondly, they have decide is it worth having all that PS3 licensing they are paying for. You mention the larger previous gen content in the catalog but that all costs money to retain. Maybe clear a lot of it out and rotate it n more regularly to cut those costs. Thirdly, they actually have to support the catalog with recent content; including their own exclusives (not throw a few exclusive bones in the catalog 4+ years after their release). Finally, Sony needs of course update the streaming capability. The only one I am sure that Sony will try do (as evident with recent talks with Microsoft about suing Azure) is update the services streaming capabilities. They will have to do this at the very minimum in order to compete with Stadia, XCloud and others. However, the other issues mentioned I have a less faith that Sony will do what (IMO) is necessary.

meka261135d ago

Main thing they need to do with PSNow is to drop the price and then they could compete with gamepass. I like a lot of the games on PSNow but $20 a month is just way too damn much.

rainslacker35d ago

A yearly sub of psnow is cheaper than the regular monthly plan from game pass. Dunno if MS has a yearly sub for game pass yet, but dont recall seeing it announced, not seen anyone state a price comparison between the two, so I'm thinking not.

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NarutoFox35d ago (Edited 35d ago )

"Well, it’s worth mentioning that the mechanics of the model aren’t all that difficult to implement."

I don't really care for it. But if it happens it is what it is. Not going to change the way I game but it would give competition and overtake Xbox game pass because of Sony exclusives and third party support.

EddieNX 35d ago (Edited 35d ago )

Gamepass is incredible and has made me love my Xbox one X.
It will be a sad day if retail goes the way of the dinosaur , but tbh as long as I can play the games I want, I dont really care..

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xX-oldboy-Xx35d ago

EddieNX - That's a ridiculous, contradictory statement to make. You really don't know what's happening do you? Don't worry about dinosaurs - think Trojan Horse.

MarkyMark8935d ago

Let me guess its the cold war era still and the SSR still stands, fall off your Trojan Horse and come to 2019 bud. NOBODY CARES ABOUT PHYSICAL COPIES BESIDES SINGLE PLAYER PLEB LOVERS AND ALOT OF IDIOTS ON THIS WEBSITE... Remember when everybody said the digital era was going to kill music and kill profits for artist. I still see them driving around in a quarter of a million dollar luxury cars and tossing money out like grass clippings. But tell me more about how great a physical disc is, wtf am I going to due with it after 2 years when I stop playing the game? The entire product (physically) is just a waste of materials. But who cares right because the overlords are trying to control you. Lol you ppl are tools literally.

xX-oldboy-Xx34d ago

MarkyMark89 - Do you think ms is happy selling 16,000 physical copies in the UK of G5? How does 3 million players over a 4 day launch period, where seemingly most of those are gamepass players - who've paid anywhere from $1 - $15 - how is that a good thing?

Now compare that to Spider-Man or God Of War - both selling 3+ million in their first 4 days on the market at $60. Who is better off?

That's where the profits are.

Let me tell you something bud, putting your games library in complete control of a company as shitty as ms - shows how much intelligence you possess. Next to none.

They can and drop games at a whim, and unless you've purchased them - bad luck. Why wouldn't you just buy it in the first place?

trooper_35d ago

That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

EddieNX 35d ago

It really does..

I'll break it down into chunks.

-Gamepass is incredible
-It's furthered the love for my Xbox
- services like Gamepass are inevitably going to compete with and replace retail.
-that will be sad
-but I'll be fine with it

WhereIsYourGodNow35d ago

@EddieNX

don't try to reason with these $ony cuckboys, if $ony had come up with this first they would be all over it. Just enjoy your games and let the peasants peasant

madpuppy35d ago

ignorant, unreasonably smug and a foul mouth...classy...

xX-oldboy-Xx34d ago

madpuppy - sounds like a typical xbox fanboy to me, they really are a dim bunch.

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zoramax35d ago

Nope, most of Sony's exclusives are single player games so once you complete them you are done. You could pay $15 a month and complete them all in 2 months making Sony far less money. And you wouldn't need to renew.

MS's exclusives are usually MP focused so a player could be playing Gears for a year or more and their subscription will make up for not paying full price.

NarutoFox35d ago (Edited 35d ago )

"Nope, most of Sony's exclusives are single player games so once you complete them you are done"

Are we talking about PS3 or PS4 or just Sony exclusives in general?? Sony Single and multiplayer exclusives: Let's see The Last of us, Uncharted, Killzone, Grand Turismo Sport, Starhawk, Warhawk, SOCOM 4, Resistance, MAG, etc.)

Killzone: Shadow Fall

Driveclub

The Last of Us

Bloodborne

Uncharted 4: A Thief’s End

Knack 2

Gran Turismo Sport

Farpoint

Hidden Agenda

Yeah, I know. PlayStation has steered away from exclusive multiplayer games so much to provide us some amazing single-player experiences. The PS3 era had Gran Turismo, Warhawk/Starhawk, Resistance, Killzone, LittleBigPlanet, Motorstorm, Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots, Uncharted, MAG, The Last of Us, SOCOM, etc. Even amazing experiences in the PS2 era (the glorious SOCOM days).

zoramax35d ago

Obviously Sony has MP games, what I am saying is most of their exclusives are played for the SP experience not MP.

Are you really telling me people are buying TLOF, U4, Bloodborne for MP, seriously? And yes I am talking PS4.

Nasdac35d ago

Well Uncharted 4 MP was very fresh and Last of Us MP was phenomenal, not to mention the 16+ million sales. Gears in their best was around 5 million max so, no it's not the same. You don't get Gamepass for MP, you get it for their campaign plus most of the new own Xbox Studios are SP focused.

DaDrunkenJester35d ago

Besides Sea of Thieves, what Xbox game is only MP? Just because there is a MP component doesn't mean its focus is MP.

zoramax35d ago

It doesn't need to be MP only just MP focused. Halo, Gears, Forza Horzion, SoT all these games are focused on MP.

DaDrunkenJester35d ago

@Zora

I would say that Gears/Halo were played just as much for their SP and Co-op modes as their online MP. Forza Horizon is hardly MP focused, but yeah SoT is definitely a MP game.

Ristul35d ago

zoramax: Maybe to you, but I have always played Halo/Gears mostly for the campaign, funny that you try to infuse your preference onto others. Gamers buy games to have a good experience, be it multi- or single-player. I doubt you have even played Uncharted4/tLoU multiplayer, or you would know they were great and had huge player base.

Profchaos35d ago

I play gears 5 for the story

xX-oldboy-Xx35d ago

zoromax - No people are buying those for quality single player experiences, with the added bonus of good to amazing MP.

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