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Astral Chain being review-bombed on Metacritic with zeros, fans fire back with perfect 10 scores

There's a bit of a battle going on over at Astral Chain's Metacritic page. It seems the trouble started when a few people went over to the page to hit the game with zeros. Why are they doing this? It seems people are upset the game is a Switch-exclusive, leading to the bombing.

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lptmg1692d ago

they got a LOT of free time on their hands, don't they

Question_Mark1692d ago

And here we have one of those petty, sad people.

killswitch801692d ago

maybe but I enjoy AC far more

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mikeslemonade1691d ago

Looking to play Luigi Mansion instead of this overrated game. Switch has inflated scores per usual.

Sirk7x1691d ago

And I could say Bayo 2 > DMC5. Shit, I could say I'd prefer the original DMC over 5. Who cares if a game is subjectively better than another? I'm enjoying Astral Chain, the action feels great. Bought DMC5 as well. Both good games.

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Shiken1691d ago (Edited 1691d ago )

Never played Astral Chain, claims it is overrated...

This is why haters can never be taken seriously in a real discussion. The only thing worse than being clueless, is limiting lying to yourself.

jznrpg1691d ago

If mike likes DMC5 better that’s his taste . Doesn’t make him wrong or 10iq. I bought Astral chain but I’m still playing Three Houses . Maybe I’ll pop it when I Take a break

Brave_Losers_Unite1691d ago

@mike

I think you're a retard

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CDbiggen1691d ago

lol, what are we, 10 years old? I bet most of us here are adults and we're saying this sad ass shit.

mikeslemonade1691d ago

^
Lol at the people who say I haven’t played SW-7872-6775-0007

First level is motorcycle rail shooter, then you fight basic baddies with baton or a gun. Some flying enemies. Then you get an auto bot that you can call upon. Then you fight a boss.

Bayonetta > Bayonetta 2. Atleast Astral Chain seems to be better than overrated Bayonetta 2. DMC5 is better than B2 and AC.

Platinum needs to make a real current gen game on Xbox, PlayStation, or PC. Weak switch hardware is holding this game back. It only makes me want to play DMC5.

Neonridr1690d ago

@mikeslemonade - not to put any claims against you, but you could have easily watched a youtube video of the game.

mikeslemonade1690d ago

^
I can upload the pic on twitch. People didn’t believe I had a WiiU either.

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Jin_Sakai1692d ago

So it seems they’re review bombing the game for being a “30fps” action game.

Sono4211691d ago

"It seems people are upset the game is a Switch-exclusive, leading to the bombing." \

Is this what gaming journalism has stooped down to? There is literally only one negative user review on metacritic that even complains that the game is only on a Nintendo console, the rest are complaining about the graphics, or 30 FPS, or boring combat, seriously how pathetic is this? Not to mention all of the people on this site just EATING up the narrative, go look for yourself ffs, it's not hard, this article is very clearly lying trying to defend the game.

Sure there are like 3 negative reviews in spanish which I can't read, but i'll even give them that, let's say all those 3 reviews are bashing it just because it's exclusive to nintendo (Doubtful as they wrote paragraphs but let's give it to them) that would make 4 reviews in total.... is that really a "bombing"?!

Pathetic click-bait garbage is all this is, and it looks like 90% of this site fell for it.... sad, this article should be reported for flat out lying, and the site should be blacklisted.

Rynxie1691d ago

Good, Nintendo deserves it. Nintendo is right there with the epic game store. These companies have to go extinct. Come on guys, let's vote down all Nintendo games.

Shiken1691d ago

Yep, they sure do deserve fans firing back with 10s, the 88 score for the game, and the fact that the game is flying off store shelves.

xVOLTx1691d ago (Edited 1691d ago )

This right here is what is wrong with gamers today.

rainslacker1691d ago

No game product deserves to be unfairly criticized. There is nothing overtly wrong with the game, and while I could understand some subjective variance to scores, or even a few people hating it, actively review bombing a game is just lame. It undermines that validity of reviews as a whole, and that validity is already on thin ice.

Ratchet751691d ago

Let's not. 😂😅🤣

King_Noctis1691d ago

There are some sad and pathetic people who would say stupid things just because they are anonymous on the internet.

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Neonridr1690d ago

uhhh.. this isn't Epic paying for the distribution rights to a game. This is Nintendo funding a game that wouldn't have been made otherwise.

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trooper_1691d ago

That's a really, stupid and petty things to do.

wolf5811691d ago

Not only that there is some sites that do this in metacritic too.if y check games like uncharted 4 or zelda bow..and other major titles you will see sites score these games under 5.just to bring down the overall score.metacritic must do something with these trollosites

rainslacker1691d ago

I don't think they do it to bring the score down. I really dont believe they care about more than themselves, and those stand out scores tend to drive hits to their page so they can get paid. It's rare where I read a exceptionally low score on an otherwise high rated game, where the author can substantiate their score with something that makes sense to mark down for, and for the ones that can manage to do a proper review, they more often than not say that its subjective, and still give the good, along with enough info for the reader to decide if the criticisms matter or not

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addictedtochaos1692d ago

This happens all the time with exclusive games. Nintendo exclusives do seem to get it worse than others though.

Babadook71692d ago

It happens way too much with user reviews for absolutely anything. Scores are either 10 or 0. Which is why user reviews aren’t worth anything.

Sono4211691d ago

You seriously need to just go read the user reviews for yourself, there aren't that many negative ones, you can read them in literally a minute, this site is flat out lying, and someone with the ability to do so should report this article and get this site blacklisted, it's a flat out lie that is EASILY debunked by just going to metacritic.

killswitch801692d ago

I mean I am not a rich man but just buy a PS4 and a Switch people and you dont have to worry about it

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Rynxie1691d ago

How about you sell your switch and become a rich man investing in better ps4 games?

RedDevils1691d ago

@Rynxie why should he, or are too stupid to sell your second options when your first choice console don't have that certain games?

Tapani1691d ago

Why did this happen? It was 9.3 among 35 reviewers and then I refresh the page 3hrs later and it was 6.8. Where did that rush come from suddenly???

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SPEAKxTHExTRUTH1692d ago

Must be some of the more arrogant fanboys doing this....

King_Noctis1692d ago

“It seems people are upset the game is a Switch-exclusive, leading to the bombing.”

And that is what wrong with some people nowadays.

lptmg1692d ago

a game published by Nintendo being a Switch exclusive is CLEARLY AN OUTRAGE!

TK-661692d ago

On a more serious note where are the people saying the user reviews are reliable? Only a few months back we had people saying "don't trust the critic score, the user score is what matters".

For as long as there is no need for the user to prove they even own the game, (let alone finish it) user scores on sites like metacritic will never be a reliable measurement of what users actually think.

RedDevils1691d ago

Those site should only allow the people who owned the games, unfortunately they allow people who doesn't even have the switch to review the games

rainslacker1691d ago (Edited 1691d ago )

Reviews tend to average out closer to reality the longer time goes on. Some exceptions exist of course. I feel the same with the pro reviews on meta. More often than not they line up fairly close to what I'd rate a game. That's why if something is a 6, i would still be apt to try it, because I might think it's a 7. Granted, reviews are pointless to me nowadays, but they're handy for discussion sometimes

Sono4211691d ago

No... whats wrong nowadays is a site can just spread lies and people just eat it up and go along with the narrative. Go look at all of the negative reviews, only one single review complains about it being a Nintendo exclusive, the rest complain about: Boring combat, 30 FPS, and bad graphics.

This article is flat out lying and should be black listed. It's a shame so many people on this site fell for this when literally all you have to do is go on metacritic yourself... absolutely disappointing.

King_Noctis1691d ago (Edited 1691d ago )

Boring combat? You control a legion in addition to controlling your own character. You basically control two fighter at once. It is not a straight forward action game, so how is that boring?

30fps? That is a valid complain, however those who actually played the game know it does not affect combat in anyway. Also, bad graphic? Have you missed an IGN article which literally said this might be the best looking game on the Switch?

I believe you should play the game first before trusting any of those user reviews over all of the critics’ reviews. Also, in what way does this game deserve 0 score? Is this game an unplayable broken mess?

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TK-661691d ago (Edited 1691d ago )

"only one single review complains about it being a Nintendo exclusive, the rest complain about: Boring combat, 30 FPS, and bad graphics."

Yeah it's just super coincidental that the game started getting bombarded with 0/10 scores from fresh accounts with no other reviews. It's not like Metacritics user scores across just about every single game are completely unreliable, and in no way accurately display what the opinion is of actual players of the games.

Choose a different hill to die on. Defending Metacritics user reviews isn't one worth fighting on.

Sono4211691d ago

These are not my complaints, i'm not even far enough into the game to have a solid review of it yet, although my first impressions are that it is pretty good.

However, this article is attributing motive to people who may just have different opinions than the person who wrote the article, which is not journalism at all. They are lying, it is fact that only one user review complains about it being exclusive to the switch, so this article claiming it is getting "review bombed" for that reason cannot only be proven false by actually reading the reviews written about this game, but goes to show they simply can't comprehend different opinions and label them "review bombs".

The fact that so many people are disagreeing with these facts shows that you can't handle differing opinions either. This site IS lying, or at the very least giving motive which they cannot actually provide evidence to prove this is their motive. In A LOT of the positive reviews however, you can see people saying they are giving it 10's to counter the low reviews... how is that not a bigger deal than an alleged "review bomb"?

Both of those are the exact same thing, except one is PROVEN and the other is a fabrication based on ONE review. One swings the pendulum in one way, and the other swings it the other way, if they were truly concerned about what is right and wrong they would call out the ones giving it 10's just to counter, but that is clearly not the case.

It's pure insanity as now there are people giving it 10's just to counter this "review bombing" that never even happened..... what they are doing should be known as "review boosting" and should be seen as just as bad, but clearly this article doesn't think so because they are clearly biased, at this point I would call that a fact I mean they even have Nintendo in the name, you would think they would at least try to be objective here, although I also didn't expect the N4G community to just eat up this easily provably false lie so easily either. Just pathetic.

TK-661691d ago

@Sono421

You're assertion is that the game is not being review bombed. So can you explain why accounts exist with only 1 review all of which being in the red make up a sizable chunk of the reviews? It's very odd to think that this game is so bad that it's moved people to sign up to Metacritic just to give it a negative review. How do you determine the difference between those accounts and say if I make 20 accounts right now and give a game a 0 score 20 times? If you can't tell the difference between them, then these "facts" of yours are bull.

Your evaluation of the facts can currently be summarized as "ARTICLE IS LYING". Let's look at whats currently fishy about these reviews. There's currently 647 positive reviews, and 246 of them have written something explaining their score. But when we look at the negative reviews we have 300 altogether and a measly 16 have written something. You think that's not odd? What you're basically saying is people are angry about something bad in this game, but out of 300 only 15 are able to tell us!?!??!? Gamers aren't the sort to keep quiet when something pisses them off.

So show us how these "facts" that suggest the scores were made by legitimate players. How you can tell the difference between a legitimate 0/10, and me giving a fake 0/10? If you can't provide a reliable method of doing so then what you call facts is questionable.

Question_Mark1691d ago

You really have no idea how Metacritic works, do you? You don’t have to leave a written review to score games.
And do you honestly believe that the people bombing the game would come out and say they’re doing it because it’s an exclusive? They know it would invalidate their entire review, so they try to make it seem like they’re people who have actually played the game. All they have to do is copy the complaints that other negative reviews have said.

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Knushwood Butt1691d ago

Coming from Noctis, who continuously trolls GT Sport threads.

King_Noctis1691d ago (Edited 1691d ago )

And coming from you, who continuously have nothing good to say for anything beside your most favourite piece of plastic. Unlike you, I criticize games that need to be criticized and praise games that are actually good. You need to learn the different between criticism and straightout trolling.

And what does GT Sport have anything to do with Astral Chain?

Knushwood Butt1691d ago

'I believe you should play the game first before trusting any of those user reviews.'

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DaDrunkenJester1692d ago

Why is anyone upset by this game being exclusive? Nintendo funded the development... it's not like they money hatted a timed exclusive or anything.

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Sono4211691d ago

Literally only one negative user review on metacritic complained about this, the rest complained about boring combat, 30 fps and bad graphics. This article is flat out lying, go ahead, go look for yourself.

This site needs to be blacklisted for flat out lying.

Shiken1691d ago

So people cannot review bomb a game and just say those reasons despite having never played it?

Sono4211691d ago

The point is they are giving a motive based on ONE review, how could you possibly attribute that motive to all negative reviews? That isn't journalism, not even a little bit.

Could those people be lying? Yes of course, but why do they assume they are lying? Simply because they have a different opinion than the person writing the article? That is the opposite of professionalism, that's blog writing garbage, not to mention the clear hypocrisy of it all, if the negative reviews are seen as "review bombing" why aren't all of those positive reviews saying "I'm giving it a 10 to counter the negative reviews" considered review boosting? Why is that not just as bad? This site basically applauds them for doing so even though it is the exact same thing they are criticizing others for supposedly doing, just in the other direction. It's blatant hypocrisy and just makes this site look like a joke.

Shiken1691d ago

No I agree on that front, the article is garbage.

The fact is, there are a lot of people hating on the game though, albeit not enough to even drag the score below a 7. I thought you were implying that other reviews must be true and jumped the gun based on the aforementioned trend.

My mistake, and I agree, garbage writing.

DaDrunkenJester1691d ago

I'll go check this out then, but I also have a friend who I trust in taste who is loving it despite it being 30fps.

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Sirk7x1691d ago

The same thing is going to happen with Bayo 3.

King_Noctis1691d ago (Edited 1691d ago )

I believe Bayonetta 3 is gonna have an even bigger problem, since it is the sequel to a well-known and well-recieved franchise.

This is why I’ve been saying, get all consoles if you are a true fan of gaming.

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Sony Launches BAFTA Game Awards 2024 PlayStation Store Section for Nominees

Sony has launched a BAFTA Game Awards 2024 section on the PlayStation Store that lists the different games nominated this year.

Bathyj2d ago

They did.
It's just empty.

I kid, I kid. 🙂

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple1014d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref3d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde3d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander19723d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville3d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff21833d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos3d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai4d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref3d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan3d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis0072d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander19724d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander19724d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref3d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde3d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander19723d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander19723d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier3d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto3d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff21833d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto3d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman3d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts3d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts2d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic3d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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The Epic Games Store Weekly Freebie was a Run Away Hit

The Epic Games Store has another freebie ready for your library and it is a free runner.

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