DICE says that it hit "rock bottom" in player sentiment due to the Star Wars Battlefront 2's loot box controversy but it's climbing back up now due to the game's post-launch support.
2 years post launch support to get it to a place where it's "alright" is nothing sorry to say Sure it's nice you've supported it but you guys didn't have a choice really and considering the other shit storms after Battlefront II it's clear you guys and EA haven't learnt a thing.
I think EA and DICE as a whole learned (the hard way) that they can't pull the shit they want when it comes to MTX. Battlefront 2 is in a good place right now, though, which is commendable. Sad to say, BF5 is not. I have no clue what DICE was thinking with BF5.
How could that possibly be true with the missteps EA have taken with MTX and launches of games... They haven't learn anything!
What hard way? The mofos haven't learn a thing, they will always have it their way and then sweet talk people because you know, people's memory is shorter than their fangs.
I tried and tried and tried but I gave up on BFV. Really disappointed in DICE and that game.
BF V is about to make a turn around also.
*Laugh in apex legends*
No. EA (Dice included) haven't learned a thing. Proof of that is the whole "Surprise Mechanics" bullshit. You see when someone truly learns from their mistakes they own it, they don't come up with new words to hide behind their actions. EA is the Cancer of this industry and anyone who believes that their employees (Dice) aren't infected are sorely mistaken. Case in point specifically about Dice - After Battlefront 2's clusterf*** of a launch they learned jack shit as proven by their whole stance on BFV's fan reception and criticism a year later. EA...what a f****** joke.
@Unholylight I tried with BF5 too, but it's just not fun, and it takes forever to unlock anything. I keep going back to BF4.
I don’t have much faith in EA, if at all. I feel every-time this happens the devs “learn” only to fall short again. I don’t care what devs from EA say or people saying it’s all the devs fault, anything EA touches this gen has gone to sh1t
EA are only doinf it because players make purchases its as simple as that
@father That’s the whale mentality. There’s a video of a studio explaining that they aren’t out to get the small fries but the whales that like spending. It’s pretty gross, and I’m sure that’s why MT just keep getting pushed harder and harder.
Coming from a die hard bf enthusiast, I feel like a Vietnam release would be an amazing game if they made it the way I know they can. Anyone else recall the Vietnam expansion from the bad company 2 days? That was my shit!
I horrifyingly bought ea access for £3.99 to try battlefront 2, anthem and bf5 and I have to say after 4 hrs of anthem it's crap. You can tell it doesn't know what it's trying to be. Battlefront 2 same crap and bf5 is a love hate relationship. Have I got my £3.99 worth out of ea access yes but thankfully saved £150 if I'd bought them at launch
Story mode in battlefronts pretty good, I bought ea access for everything else as I already had battlefront in a sale.
Maybe we as gamers need to stop just saying EA has not learned. And say WE have not learned. They say the same thing so we will buy the next game.
It's all EAs fault DICE don't deal with the MTX side EA has a team for this Andrew lootbox Wilson is the only person to blame, he started EA on the MTX path, from executive producer of FIFA to the CEO of EA because he turned a in game currency feature in FIFA 09 to a paid for feature in FIFA 10 and onwards. If you do your research all loot boxes lead back FIFA and Andrew Wilson
If they hit rock bottom with Battlefront 2 then they’ve hit the earths core and are burning in magma with Battlefield 5 which is absolutely boring! I can’t even tell that I’m in WW2 with all of the mostly forgettable map locations from irrelevant battles that no one has ever heard of. And don’t even get me started on the abysmal post launch content and on going bugs that the game has. DICE has lost their way with this one. I’m not even sure that the Pacific content coming this fall can even save it. But as far as Battlefront 2 goes they definitely righted that ship and it is a blast to play.
i love ww2 but bfv does not look like ww2
*Spoilers* They haven't.
Dice needs to start doubling down on the quality of their games. Loot boxes aside the game play of their recent releases have been so flat. Beginning with battle front 1. The games are just so boring to play and everything is stiff and without polish.
Remake bf2 and all will be forgiven
They hit rock bottom with BF5.
nothing wrong with loot boxes unless cosmetic only BUT all items must be able to be grinded in game(within reach) no point having 4 skins in game and to get the 5th you have to put in 200 hours its unfair
Exactly... treyarch went to new lows with the loot box weapons. Especially since a few are OP AF, effectively approaching pay 2 win format. Multiplayer is a joke in BO4 nowadays.
I don't see much changing so long as they belong to EA.
making a profit and they made rock bottom ? interesting
I don’t particularly enjoy their games but if a game looks good I might buy It. I’m not “done” with them like I am some studios lol.
Was just discussing how swbf2 has really sent a lot of free dlc and made up for their evil start. Redemption is a good thing.
Dice has been all downhill since Battlefield 1. That game was excellent and if they used that formula for battlefront they would've had a winner. Having to level up you character online during a match to be able to ride vehicles is one of the dumbest things ever. The beauty about battlefield is that you saw a Jeep, you hoped in and went...etc with plains, tanks and bikes. Greed got in the way of the fun and then rushing your games got in the way of quality.
And then you stayed down at the bottom with BFV
Their games are still grindy poop.
The rolled the DICE on loot boxes and lost.
I see what you did there ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Who's willing to bet that EA & DICE will pull something similar within the next year or so proving that they haven't learned anything? Listening to any complaints of shock from EA has gotten annoying because they don't change.
Oh, I'm sure they still have further to fall. Just wait for their next game.
Good. I hope they learned from the BFV shitfest, as well.
This is BS PR if ever I saw it. No company would have ever put out that hot mess BFV immediately after Battlefront 2 if they'd learned even a single thing. During the BF3/4 era they were the saving grace of console FPS games while COD circled the drain. It genuinely pains me to see how far they've fallen.
Nice lie DICE, that statement in its entirety.
You made the bed you gotta lay in it.
You need to reboot battlefield I think. Fresh and modern setting again.
Cuz BC1,BC2,BF3,4 and Hardline werent.Modern enough 🙄
Nothing is coming back up, because people will never have respect for someone who ripped them off.
Stares in BFV...
Nah, rock bottom was the dumpster fire that is BFV. For their sake I hope the rumors of Bad Company 3 as a next gen launch game are true.
Is battlefront 2 worth jumping into now? It's always on sale on origins for like £5
And hopefully they've helped end it!
I haven't supported Dice since BF4, and that is where i'll remain, seeing as how there doesn't seem to be much good coming from Dice anytime soon into the near future.
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