505 Games Brand CM Lucas Liaskos revealed that Control will not support HDR which is releasing on August 27th on PC, PlayStation and Xbox One.
Agreed. No HDR and all consoles locked to 30fps isn’t great to hear.
30fps isn't that big of a deal. 60 is obviously better, but 9/10 if there's an option, I go with 30fps anyway. Also, not a lot of devs get HDR right.
“30fps isn't that big of a deal. 60 is obviously better, but 9/10 if there's an option, I go with 30fps anyway.” I’m the opposite. I’d always choose 60fps. Devs should at least give us the option to choose if possible.
If I find that there's way too much motion blur where it causes a headache at 30fps, then I switch to 60fps. For GOW, and Hellblade, for example, I was fine with the 30fps option.
@ziggurcat I have a hard time believing that. Why would anyone choose 30fps over 60fps? It's not only far smoother, the input delay is reduced with 60fps. There hasn't been a single Pro game that that offered 4k/30 vs 1080p/60 that I haven't chosen 1080p/60. Some slower paced games are "fine" at 30fps, but gaming just feels better at 60fps.
motion blur is added in artificially to make things appear more cinematic. The human mind tends to find it unsettling to watch something that doesn't have motion blur. A movie shot on video for instance doesn't have motion blur, because it doesn't work like film. So, they filter the image to make it more pleasant for the user. Same is true with games. If they didn't add it in, it would look like a video, and even 60fps has that motion blur added in.
@blue: "Why would anyone choose 30fps over 60fps?" Because usually there's a boost in the visuals when you go with the lower frame rate, and I sometimes prefer to enjoy a game's visuals at their best over a smoother frame rate. I don't always choose 30 over 60, though - the 9/10 was a slight exaggeration. And honestly, not all games need to be 60fps to be able to enjoy them.
@bluefox - Ive said this before, but I cant tell the difference between 30 and 60fps, so i always take the resolution. A higher number may be quantitatively better, but if a person cant see those benefits than its the same as not existing.
It's outta control.
Somebody needs to take control of the situation.
this is beyond our control
Get Out 👉 🚪 lol
You're all forgetting the new ps system update that has HDR at the system level...
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I think that 60fps for nextgen is priority than graphics. Really i cannot ever see a 30fps game... Control on pc have RTX, and on console nothing HDR? i think this is illogic.
Id Cancel my PreOrder if i didnt Love Max Payne 1 and 2 soo Much and also that Blade Runner esque ray tracing tech demo looked cool
You’d cancel a game over locked frame rate?
I think he’s just trying to fit in.
no the HDR and Pro Support is what helps me choose to pay full price on games, just got an LG C8
The pro is getting HDR at system level in next update
Luckily its only $51 on amazon
thats why no one bought them up as a developer. they suck
Not to defend them or anything, but do keep in mind the ancient hardware they have to work with.
If the hardware is so ancient explain to me why other developers have been able to included HDR and make games that run at 60fps on said hardware?
Getting away from these god awful jaguar CPUs this generation will be a godsend.
if the PS5 has a USB C port they could technically offer upgrade to the system by hooking up a box with a powersupply unit and an upgraded CPU and GPU after 2 years since USB C goes directly to the Motherboard
@SolidGamerX No excuses with HDR. But about the frame rate issue. Developers use different engines. Some engines are tasking on the CPU (the CPU in the PS4 and XB1 suck badly). Some are more GPU tasking and some have a good balance.
This just in. Half your HDR games today utilize BS fake HDR and you’re all getting upset over something fairly insignificant
@bolimekurac @SolidGamerX So...because GTA V and other rockstar games have a 30 fps cap, they must "suck as devs" also?? Do you have a brain??...Its ALWAYS fallen on the developer on whether or not they sacrifice ingame assets in order to make a game run at 60 fps (ex gran turismo 3-4, burnout series BOTH ON PS2), or sacrifice framerate, in order to get more assets (details) in the game (ex gta, horizon zero dawn, ect)..and if you think all games next gen that will run 60 fps, wake f**k up.
Why did you included me in your angry post I never said the developer sucked.
You obviously have never played their games. I am not a fan of Control for a few of my own reasons... But, their Max Payne games were really good. And Alan Wake was a bigger vision then they could execute on 360, but still really done well. Alan Wake American Nightmare was a ton of fun. And Quantum Break definately wasn't a 90's type game, but it was done well. I expect Control will be another solid entry by Remedy. But it is not a day one buy for me. I will wait until it is much cheaper.
Got the game early, and my base ps4 struggling to even reach 20 at chaotic moments. Thats with a day1 patch, so it need some more polish. And there are weird artifacts, filter on every surface that must be reflective, and from some angle they look horrible. But... the characters and the atmosphere are great, so i would give it a try. If you like the stories of the SCP Foundation, you know what you can expect
Base model myself so thx for the heads up on the fps drops. I'm literally waiting for ps5 now tbh though to play the games now, I'm just playing back catalogue for the nxt 12mths
Thank you. Haven't seen any reviews up yet and it made me a little nervous because I preordered a few days ago. The SCP stuff is really interesting to hear! It seems PERFECT for this game. I'm excited for it.
Wait that sounds like Quantum Break !
Not the end of the world but would be nice to have . I’m sure it is a money issue
Doubtful, they have a big publisher and plenty of money from previous projects. I imagine it’s performance related as the game is very heavy on the physics, so HDR on all the debris and effects would tank the framerates on consoles
Maybe the base versions. But you'd think the X and Pro could handle it.
HDR has virtually no impact on performance.
@OpenGL - well, it does in some cases - https://www.extremetech.com... On consoles we probably don’t see the impact because the output image most likely always renders both HDR and SDR, showing whichever your device supports. Rather than showing either or and not rendering the alternative. As I said before though, the amount of physics based effects and actions will most likely be dragging the Jag on all 4 systems to the dirt as it is, nevermind adding HDR into the mix. Regardless, the game still looks great as it is :)
The game looks incredibly bland and limited geometry without RTX so have no idea why it’s being nerfed as it shouldn’t be that taxing a game at all. Unless Nvidia are paying to keep it as limited as possible to improve the impression for their RTX cards. Should be hitting 1440p 60fps gameplay, 30fps cutscenes from what I’ve seen without any problems. All with HDR enabled.
It’s not bland and there’s tonnes of physic-based effects as debris and items fly around during combat. I’m sure the current gen consoles are struggling to keep a stable framerate at 30 and no HDR...
It can't hit 1440p 60 fps on PC? What has this world come to?!
Oh, were they talking about PC? Thought they were on about consoles? I imagine on Pc it'll run as well as your GPU and CPU combo will allow it - unless there are any frame caps in place (which I don't think there is)
Hopefully some patches will have been released before I get around to play it, Control does look good. I am all about Catherine: Full Bodied as far as new games launching in the next couple of weeks are concerned.
No HDR just sounds lazy. From my understanding, it’s neither incredibly difficult or power consuming to implement HDR. This makes me think they just don’t wanna put in the effort.
Welp, PC version it is then :)
No HDR that sucks.
Well that's a goddamn disappointment.
This will look amazing with rtx on though.
im from Finland and game looks bad....does it really matter does it support 30/60fps and so on? most of n4g ppl dun even have 4k tv which supports HDR nor comp which can handle such a thing...
no one can see past 30fps man!! funny now 60fps is a must on consoles.
I could deal with 30fps, but no hdr is a huge bummer
Meanwhile on PC way over 60fps + highest graphics preset. No HDR well sweetfx/reshade can fix that with fake HDR and even add way more effects on top of that \o/
I wonder why...
I'm going to give remedy the benefit of the doubt. I don't think they're being lazy there's probably just a resource to cost issue or something up with the hardware and their engine. However, I can't say i'm not disappointed. I'm very spoiled when it comes to hdr a lot of the games i own have it and i have a 4k tv /original ps4. I know some people might say why not a pro? And i bought the ps4 years before the pro came and only recently upgraded my tv. Now i'm at the point where it just seems logical to buy the ps5 when it comes out and hop over the pro.
Don't worry I'm sure the next generation consoles will have the update. :)
That's just sad
RED ALERT!!! 30fps OH NO!! send out the frame rate Police and arrest those developers at once. Get a life so if a game isn’t 60fps it’s automatically crap then.
You never pre-ordered it though...
Lol got me
Strange choice for such a moody looking game, would have looked really good in HDR but 30fps is the worst part even though we are used to it by now, I hope it becomes a thing of the past next gen.
Going off how even the laziest of devs pull this off it's a pretty poor look.
I really wasn't sure about buying this game from jump,I'm curious to see what the reviewers have to say.
awaiting pc release by codex