Infinity Ward to add additional mouse and keyboard settings to PS4 version Modern Warfare

With the Call of Duty: Modern Warfare Open Alpha on PlayStation 4, Infinity Ward enabled the ability for players to connect their keyboard and mouse and play Call of Duty: Modern Warfare through the Alpha. For this Alpha, it does appears that keyboard/mouse and controller players are in mixed lobbies for testing as it is just an Alpha on platform.

[Pyroxfaglover]

Very cool for me but that is ridiculous,.. You have to split the servers,.. Though I know people who play on 20/20 sensitivity with controller and can snipe you while doing 720° air spins,.. they are very rare. Mouse is like giving a wheelchair to crippled,.. It is really nice,.. but to put them in the same lobby as people with standard interface is just wrong.
On consoles there was at least some fairness in terms of competition,.. they more or less have about the same type of experiences,.. (yes some have better 3d headsets more responsive TV's bit better controllers) but at least the input method and interface is somewhat similar.

[vallencer]

It's just an alpha. If they do this for the full game I'm sure the lobbies will be split.

[Adexus]

You can opt out of playing against M&K users so it's a non-issue.

[Hungryalpaca]

You can just disable playing with mkb...

[sampsonon]

Using a mouse and keyboard on a console version of the game kind of takes away the whole point of playing with a console.
If someone wants to use a mouse and keyboard they should just play on PC.

[MAULxx]

Now that crossplay is in full swing I don't see a problem with letting people choose peripheral they want to use.
Maybe they don't want to play on PC or deal with windows OS. They can use their kb/m on their PS4.

[sampsonon]

understandable, but it's just not fair to buy a $60 game only to have someone have an advantage over you.
they shouldn't have cross play unless the console player has a M&K.
console players shouldn't have to be forced to play with a M&K player.
simple.

[TK-66]

@Sampsonon

If it bothers you go buy a M&K and start practicing.

"console players shouldn't have to be forced to play with a M&K player.
simple."

You were forced to play with motion controls players and survived that so you'll be fine with M&K. Btw in this context a M&K player is also a console player...

[Welshy]

@TK-66

"You were forced to play with motion controls players and survived". Come on now, let's be serious for a minute.

You can't with a straight face tell someone that KB&M and motion controls are in the same league. For starters, KB&M is WAY more widespread, motion controls were in such a small number of titles and (as though I seriously need to clarify this to anyone with an IQ in the positive digits) KB&M is significantly more responsive and accurate than a move wand. Let's get real here.

I'm not against KB&M becoming more common on console, players should be able to play with what they're comfortable with, but they 100% must be match made exclusively with each other and not mixed with controller users. That just objectively creates a huge balance problem and disadvantages players who just want to buy a game, pick up their pad and play. There should never be an obligation to buy additional hardware and learn new control methods just remain on an even playing field.

Edit: you just told that guy "Btw in this context a M&K player is also a console player...". That's nitpicking and bait and you know it. You knew exactly what he meant by "console" player.

[TK-66]

@Welsh

"You can't with a straight face tell someone that KB&M and motion controls are in the same league."

Never made any such assertion. Are you denying that motion controls offered an advantage in shooters on consoles? If not then whatever point you were trying to make in this sentence isn't worth being addressed.

"For starters, KB&M is WAY more widespread, motion controls were in such a small number of titles and (as though I seriously need to clarify this to anyone with an IQ in the positive digits) KB&M is significantly more responsive and accurate than a move wand. Let's get real here."

Irrelevant. Motion controls offered an advantage in many multiplayer games on the PS3 and no one demanded matchmaking separate the users. We're talking "real" here.

"That just objectively creates a huge balance problem and disadvantages players who just want to buy a game, pick up their pad and play."

So does internet connection. Are we separating users by their connectivity speeds? No? Then there's a huge balance problem. We don't separate matchmaking on PC for control inputs so I see no reason for it on consoles.

"There should never be an obligation to buy additional hardware and learn new control methods just remain on an even playing field."

They have before and it's been fine.

"Edit: you just told that guy "Btw in this context a M&K player is also a console player...". That's nitpicking and bait and you know it. You knew exactly what he meant by "console" player."

Don't care. If his point is made badly it should be pointed out. If you've got a problem with that DM @Sampsonon and educate him on forming an argument.

[Welshy]

@TK-66

Lmao ok dude. You're either a bad troll/devil advocate or legitimately stupid so I'm just going to agree to disagree and leave you to it 🤣

[TK-66]

@Welshy

Guess you've got no argument to back yourself up. You made that evident when you resort to insults over making a point. If you can't handle debates then dont engage. As was pointed out down below racers have been doing what you argued against for literally decades and theres been no issue. So for you to be consistent you'd have to argue against that which you obviously wont.

[Welshy]

@TK-66

We clearly just fundamentally disagree so I'm choosing not to waste my time going round in circles trying to change your mind. You made your point and I made mines, I'm just going to agree to disagree and move on.

Once both parties make their point and neither is moved by the other then there's no purpose to carry on debating. Judging by your comment history you revel in confrontation, even if you actually agreed with me you come across as though you'd continue to argue for arguments sake so enough is enough.

[Hungryalpaca]

You going to apply that same logic to someone using a wheel in racing games?

[Welshy]

Edit: wrong comment

[Hedstrom]

Then they should get matched with pc players!

[SixFragz]

In that case, they should only be matched with PC players.

As someone who almost exclusively plays Rainbow 6 Siege on PS4, the mouse and keyboard epidemic has almost ruined the experience for those playing the fair way: with a controller. Which is how console games are meant to be played.

Those people who use MnK on console swear that they are gods at the game, and that is one thing that really irks me. They know if they played other MnK players they'd be eviscerated.

Shitties.

[DaMist]

You gotta remember this is an alpha that isn't available on the Pc so it's kind of a growing pain but won't be like this forever. I mostly play with a controller when on consoles, but last night tried the m/k to see how it works, it wasn't too bad but the sensitivity felt a little wacky but Yeah the option is there to use M/K on ps4 and right now they don't separate controllers and m/k players but they will in the released game. Then you'll be able to Opt out of playing against those with m/k, and m/k players will be pooled with pc players along with console players who want to use them. Counterpoint is that I've also used a controller when plying some pc games sometimes (apex., TF, cod etc) and I did very decent and held my own against pc players, but again that was an option. Having those is good. I'd say be patient, once the real game comes out, you won't have to trouble yourself with this. Happy gaming.

[Zeegamereh]

It’s very possible to beat mnk players with a controller tho lol some consoles pro play against pro mnk players in tournaments and do just as good and even better

[DaMist]

Yeah! Like I said, I do very decent. Having the tools alone isn't enough if the player themselves aren't very good.

[Pyroxfaglover]

Well there are people that are so damn proficiency with controller, that can run circles around K&M players,.. but on average it is just much simpler to do really well with K&M.

[Welshy]

Removing the totally random skill factor of your opponent in each lobby, the KB&M is just objectively a more responsive and accurate input method than a control pad. That's the real problem here.

To overlook that and excuse it because "some controller users are better than some KB&M users" completely misses the point. KB&M users need to be match made with each other or pc only. To have them mixed together in the full release is a non starter.

[DaMist]

That seems to be the plan, they will be matched only with m/k players, this is just an alpha so im not surprised its not enforced here.

[NautilusXIII]

if only people applied that same energy that they have hating km+b to ppl that use modded controllers as well. wutever.

[Welshy]

I agree with the sentiment, Scuff pads etc give a huge advantage too, but I'd say building KB&M support into a console FPS is a bigger problem looking at the big picture.

I'd venture to guess that a good number of people have a KB&M lying around already that they can use, and even if they don't its significantly cheaper to get a serviceable KB&M than it is to buy a moddee pad with the paddles etc.