In an era defined by exclusivity, Microsoft is opening up to 3rd party platforms.
I mean its on PC, does that really make it "3rd party"?
The game is published by MS, and developed by an Xbox studio. Gears 5 is a first party game.
yeah but it was already releasing PC via windows store. The difference is here storefront
Tomato tomato...same platform as before the PC, no difference here.
Microsoft doing the right thing and making games available to more users. Sony on the other hand...
@Unspoken You people are incredible. Any move MS makes, is the best move and where the industry should be heading in your opinions. I never thought I'd see a day where people are actually trying to villainize a company for making products, to make their own products worth buying, lmao.
@Unspoken @Silly gameAr Didn't we just get an article saying that Sony is looking to put some of their games on additional platforms? I think the industry is moving forward in a different way and closed off platforms are sort of going bye bye. We are seeing more platforms, we are seeing streaming going to multiple devices, we are seeing more and more crossplay... Yes I still think a platform needs games that define them, but the old ways of completely closed off ecosystems is slowly going away.
@Da He was talking about their multiplayer games. But until we actually get real announcements, let's slow our roll a little.
It has began !!!!!!!!POLE MOVE KOMBAT!!!!!!!!!
usually MS 1st party games release on the Windows Store only and people gripe and complain. Then they make good and release it on Steam and people try to make other deflections.. can't please everyone clearly. The term 3rd party here is referring to the platform on PC.
Frankly, The wider the availability, the better the games will do. Not a bad idea since games will be available for sale on Xbox, Xbox windows app and Maybe steam this pairs well with games being included on Game Pass. basically, they get the upfront subsidization, (via subscriptions) and post launch sales, which really gives them a much more stable development budget, though we have yet to see if more stable means larger revenue, more investment into games, or better games for that matter. I will say, I think Game Pass would be better if it removed 3rd party games (or at least non-indie ones) and just put the full budget into bi-monthly first party releases. However, that would be assuming they have the dev power to support frequent AND quality releases, which clearly has not been the case so far anyway. 90% of first party releases on Game Pass have been average at best.
It’s steam... which is offered on more than Windows.
I guess I'll be playing this on PC. Hopefully it's good
Steam will hopefully make the Gears series a little more mainstream and increase the fan base.
@Unspoken Yes, but if you think they're going to put the big exclusives like God of War, Last of Us, ect. on another platform, then I doubt that will happen. MP friendly games, or games that might benefit more on more platforms, like free to play games, MP only games, or 2nd and 3rd party games that are more synonymous with PlayStation, I can see as more of a possibility.
People talk crap about Microsoft, but if you don't have an Xbox, you can play the games on PC. The competition would never release games on PC
Actually, Sony has been conservatively allowing some of their games to release on PC. Beyond Two Souls, Detroit Become Human and Journey are Sony owned but got recent PC ports.
I meant first party games.
those aren't really "Sony's" games, those are QD's games
@darrhv72 the games I mentioned are owned by Sony.
What is Planetside for $500 Alex
Everquest ring a bell?
Wasn't there an article where Sony have them permission to release those games on PC?
Uh no they are not Sony games. QD made them and had an exclusive deal with Sony. Kinda like it was with the PS4 Spider-Man game, Sony didn't own them at the time. They just acquired them now, but at the time they were contractors for Sony.
That's because Microsoft is still releasing all their games on their own platform. Windows is owned by Microsoft. They're not putting Gears 5 on a Mac.
but it's not like they are getting all the revenue when someone purchases it off the Windows store vs Steam. They are selling games at a loss there. But they are trying to appeal to the larger userbase.
@ darthv72 Sony allowed the quantic dream collection to the epic games store. https://www.dsogaming.com/n... sony still owns the rights to those IPs.
It's appearing on Steam a platform MS doesn't own though it's a PC platform.
Its available on Steam, doesnt that mean you can play on a MAC?
@Inzo Not necessarily, it has to be optimized for MacOs. Steam has its own category for Mac games.
@ElementX "The competition would never release games on PC" Never? Brace yourself! “We must support the PlayStation platform -- that is nonnegotiable,” Layden said. “That said, you will see in the future some titles coming out of my collection of studios which may need to lean into a wider installed base.” https://www.bloomberg.com/n...
From the same article... "particularly multiplayer titles designed to be played on personal computers -- may see broader distribution." I don't you'd see any single player games from Nintendo or Sony on PC
@ElementX "I don't you'd see any single player games from Nintendo or Sony on PC" First you said that competition would never release games on PC. Now you´re talking about single player only games, moving the goalposts i see. Not really hard to tell that this news took you by surprise. Uncharted, TLOU and Killzone for example are single player and multiplayer games as much as Halo, Gears and Forza. You can play that denial game all you want. The fact that Sony may focus just on multiplayer games and/or multiplayer-only games to be multiplatform, doesn´t change the fact that first party games from Sony are comming to PC, putting Sony on a position closer to Microsoft rather than Nintendo. FACT! I been telling people that Yoshida is the new CEO and he has a FINANCIAL background! CHANGES are to be expected! Embrace change! Evolve or die!
I should've been more specific in my original post. Nintendo and Sony will probably never release their big franchises on PC. I guess I have to lay out every single detail of my thoughts or somebody will pick them apart. Uncharted, Mario, Zelda, God of War, etc are the games I had in mind, not multiplayer games or minor IPs. I meant the games you think of when you hear Sony or Nintendo.
He also said MPs and they can afford to do so if they wish but one thing you wont see on PC is a Sony first party exclusive.
@Inzo Dude, can you read? “That said, you will see in the future some titles coming out of *MY* collection of studios which may need to lean into a wider installed base.” Translation: SONY´S FIRST PARTY GAMES
And if the games were any good, I'd be praising them, because it would mean I wouldn't have to buy another console. That's not the case though, unfortunately. At least they're acknowledging that no one wants to use their rubbish windows store
I don’t think that they have a choice, otherwise the game not only makes no profit but the development will not pay off.
Well their games hardly sell well on the x1 si they don't really have a choice.
Well it’s inevitable that MS is going down the path of a becoming a third party developer. The question that looms is when are they’re going to make the official announcement?
So is Sony, so I guess Ms has the right idea
I think they'll do it similar to windows phone and just let it happen over time. They can still collect money from xbox live. It's kinda sad but funny that Xbox console users have become "2nd class citizens"
So... when's it coming to PS4?
Halo on PlayStation... sooner than you think.
@Srhalo "Halo on PlayStation... sooner than you think." According to Sony new policies, could be the other way around. TLOU, Uncharted, Killzone among others multiplayer games from Sony on Xbox. Besides, all i see is Microsoft announcing their games for the Nintendo Switch. Cuphead, Ori, and possibly Battletoads. Sony is getting nothing so far.
You’ve clearly read too far into things (I get why, but slow your role while you ‘hope’ Sony is turning into Microsoft).
@BethindTheRows The exact words from Layden (just the other day) were Sony would release some of their games on other platforms and devices. How is that reading too much into something? Or do exact words from the chairman of SIE studios not actually mean what the person says? It sounds more like you are ignoring what he says out of convenience because it doesn't support your own argument. “We must support the PlayStation platform — this is non-negotiable,” says Layden. “That said, you will see in the future some titles coming out of my collection of studios which may need to lean into a wider installed base.” Sounds like what Sony is planning is exactly what Microsoft is doing here with Gears. Before you mention Ori or Cuphead on Switch remember Sony's exclusive Quantic Dream games are now on PC. Again sounds familiar but, for some reason in your mind only Microsoft is heading down this path. Edit: my horrible grammar.
LOL, "Sony's new policies".
So a game that people say is milked and hasn't been great for sometime would suddenly be popular if it was coming to PS
Who knows it might even sell 13.2 million!
Super Smash Bros on Xbox... sooner than you think.
They literally came out and said that's not going to happen
3rd party publisher Microsoft :)
Actually, Windows 10, which this game has always been heading to since its announcement is owned by Microsoft.
It's going to steam which is 3rd party platform my dude
Steam for Windows 10 ONLY though... not Steam in general. Its a no go on Steam for Mac and Linux. Windows 10 only...that's Microsoft's platform. They are releasing Gears 5 for Windows 10 ONLY for the Microsoft Store and Steam. Windows 10 is the platform here buddy...Steam and Microsoft Store are the store fronts.
How is steam a platform? It’s a store.
Microsoft’s all about that opening up to more platforms They sure as hell wouldn’t want this to be a Windows 10 exclusive
You mean the OS that represents 72% of Steam gamers? Steam had around 150 million active members in May. That is members that sign on to Steam and play in the month that data is collected. 72% of Windows 10 users on Steam is 108 million active Windows 10 gamers that month. More active members than all PS4 consoles sold. How many active members do you think PSN has during that same period? And no it is not the same as the number of consoles sold (100 million). MAU rates on Sony's ecosystem are not even close to Steams Windows 10 numbers. To be active you have to sign on the month the data is collected. What 50 million, maybe 60 million it we are going to generous? And Xbox just from the console active membership (not counting Win 10 Live users) is probably 25 to 30 million on average for a month. I am not saying it would be a good idea to be a Windows 10 exclusive but, lets not pretend that Windows 10 doesn't dominate the gamer population from any perspective. The number of Windows 10 active users just on Steam dwarf both consoles overall user base (not just active uses on the console but overall accounts on each console ecosystem) by a good margin.
I’m talking about Windows 10 Store rather than the OS... Every game will sell more on Steam than on W10 Store
And that is where Microsoft has the advantage. Windows 10 is the worlds biggest gaming platform in the world...and Microsoft owns it. Its a platform that consists of many different services...Steam, Epic, Microsoft's own store...its very smart of them to put their games for their platform on as many services as possible. I will be getting the Xbox Play Anywhere/GamePass Ultimate flavor...others will choose Steam as the service they get it from...in the end, it only means more games sold.
Again you’re talking about an OS and not the actual digital store 😑
Again...it only means more games sold...
Hence why Microsoft won’t have their games be exclusive with to Windows 10 Store, like I said earlier 😑
And like I said earlier...thats where their advantage is...
So basically you’re just reinforcing my statement
Exclusivity hasn't work for Microsoft at all. They need to go multiplatform. On the other hand, exclusivity has been a major point of success for Sony and Nintendo. Marvel Spider Man alone exclusive to one platform sold 13.2 million. That's huge. Microsoft cannot compete with exclusives. They must go multiplatform in order to survive.
It's been that way for years, apparently it hasn't mattered too much.