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It sucks that Xbox fans have to beg for sequels

Microsoft is one of the biggest publishers in the world, so why can't gamers depend on it to support its franchises?

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porkChop1714d ago

If a game doesn't sell, or isn't successful critically, a sequel isn't always likely. Publishers aren't in the business of throwing money away.

StormLegend1713d ago

I mean Sony did with Knack. No one asked for it but they made a sequel anyway.

_SilverHawk_1713d ago

It sucks that xbox fans have to beg for new games

TheUndertaker851713d ago

Which if all accounts are correct was part of the deal with Mark Cerny to build the PS4

sprinterboy1713d ago

Knack got 1.88million physical sales though and a average critic score of 8.4 so that's why it got a sequal.

Obscure_Observer1713d ago

@sprinterboy

"Knack got 1.88million physical sales though and a average critic score of 8.4 so that's why it got a sequal."

Lol! What?

https://www.metacritic.com/...

TheUndertaker851713d ago

They're trying to half use VG Chartz
http://www.vgchartz.com/gam...

There is only one "critic review" via VGChartz. Though they say 1m was shipped, not "1.88m physical sales".

n1kki61713d ago

Knack sold nearly 2 million units globally. I'm not sure what the budget for the game was but I bet it was profitable.

SPEAKxTHExTRUTH1713d ago

Yeah but they shouldn’t have.

Tech51713d ago (Edited 1713d ago )

dup post

Pyroxfaglover1713d ago (Edited 1713d ago )

Don't know how knack 2 is (only played the demo and just did not click with me), but Knack 1 is one hell of a fun game (maybe a bit too hard on hard,.. but fun and mechanically rich enough. It almost ratchet quality if not better in some oldschool ways.

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lxeasy1713d ago

I'm just glad we are getting an Ori sequel. That game is a gem and one of the few great exclusives Xbox published this gen.

SyntheticForm1713d ago

That brilliant work of metroidvania may be Microsoft's best exclusive this generation.

mogwaii1713d ago

Few being the operative word.

Dragonscale1713d ago

Its ironic that the 2 best new ip's on xbox this gen are both indies, Ori and cuphead.

KickSpinFilter1713d ago

Ori, Cuphead...,...,...,...Forza 4,5,6,7, Forza H 1, 2, 3,

Sciurus_vulgaris1713d ago

Ori and the Blind Forest sold well, got good reviews and strong fan reception, it was a no brainier for MS to do a sequel. However games like the following:
Sunset Overdrive, Ryse, Quantum Break & ReCore didn't or aren't getting sequels due to a mixture of under performing sales (Qunatum Break,Sunset Overdrive & Ryse), mediocre reception (Ryse & ReCore) , or MS not owning the ip (Sunset Overdrive and Ryse)

Larrysweet1713d ago

Cept its not lol i have no xbox and played ori

ArmrdChaos1713d ago

What the hell happened to The Last Night? It fell off the map.

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SwampthingsSon1713d ago

Excellent answer. Now tell me, why do N4G Playstation fans keep begging for a The Order 1886 sequel?

Skuletor1713d ago

So I can shoot those vampires they teased in 1886

NarutoFox1713d ago

That's just ridiculous. Gotta beg for sequels

esherwood1712d ago (Edited 1712d ago )

Pretty much. These games take huge investments, I’m sure there’s rooms full of people that know the numbers that decided weather or not to do it. Just because a vocal minority screams for something on the internet doesn’t mean even they will buy it. People like to complain it’s human nature, sometimes it’s called for but there’s also just misurable people that do it none stop

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XiNatsuDragnel1714d ago (Edited 1714d ago )

Sadly most fans don't like the games usually expect for Halo, Gears, and Forza, but that's changing tho

Spurg1713d ago

Halo, Gear, and Forza have a huge established fanbase that's why they are always making those games.

"Sadly most fans don't like the games"
I'm sorry but you don't speak for every Xbox gamer. They do like games like Sunset overdrive, Alan Wake, Ryse, Recore, Quantum Break, Killer Instinct and want sequels for all those games.

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mark_parch1713d ago

@Spurg
Why did most those games have poor sales then?
Don't get me wrong I love sunset overdrive, alan wake and ryse but clearly I was in the minority.
Killer instinct has been very successful and I will be shocked if they don't announce a sequel for next gen

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Longadog1713d ago (Edited 1713d ago )

noisy fanbase ... oh definitely

but huge? (in saitama expression) ok

darthv721713d ago

@mark, I'm going to gues and say the reason those games didnt sell well was also why the system as a whole didnt sell well. People were just turned off by the initial information. So those games sold to whatever the base was at the time. It certainly has grown over the years but sadly there is a stigma that new customers dont go back and buy older releases. They buy whatever is current and want new games going forward.

Its a real shame too as those early releases are still quite good and fun to play. I didnt get my xbo until three years in and I went for those because they were cheap (but then again 2nd hand sales dont really count in the overall sales because they were already counted at one time).

XiNatsuDragnel1713d ago

@Spurg well I'm not wrong here, and @Solid owned you Spurg

No Way1713d ago (Edited 1713d ago )

@Parch - what designates poor sales? Sunset Overdrive (according to vgchartz) sold 1.16 million. That's not bad.. Also according to VGChartz:

Overwatch (2.72m)
Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six: Siege (2.71m)
Tom Clancy's The Division (2.59m)
Destiny 2 (2.35m)
Battlefield 4 (2.09m)
Star Wars Battlefront II (2017) (1.92m)
Far Cry 4 (1.68m)
Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Wildlands (1.61m)
Doom (2016) (1.45m)
Titanfall 2 (1.37m)
Destiny: The Taken King (1.27m)
Battlefield: Hardline (1.24m)
Plants vs. Zombies: Garden Warfare 2 (0.86m)
Wolfenstein: The New Order (0.75m)
Plants vs. Zombies: Garden Warfare (0.71m)
Wolfenstein II: The New Colossus (0.70m)
Borderlands: The Handsome Collection (0.68m)
Evolve (0.67m)
Alien: Isolation (0.52m)
BioShock The Collection (0.48m)

RottenBeaver1713d ago

There is Killer Instinct 2, which is a sequel

bluebenjamin1712d ago

Only Playstation and Nintendo are allowed to make the same game over and over again Uncharted 26 Mario bros 2565 Mario 2565 full HD edition Gran Turismo 16 Luigi Mansion playmates hue hefner edition God of war 17

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chiefJohn1171712d ago (Edited 1712d ago )

No he didn't Solid links aren't even creditable, for God's sake he post a forum link 😆 I'd believe Vgcharcmts over a random forum user. And it is confirmed sunset sold over 1 million now 300k so Solid post is BS (as usual) and No way owned him. You're right saying most fans don't but you can say that about 90% of new IP. According to you unless the game sell to 50% of the fanbase most don't right?

gamer78041713d ago (Edited 1713d ago )

Personally i think it's time to build new franchises if a game sells well instead of trying to make a sequel to something older.

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sprinterboy1713d ago

Exactly leave halo and gears behind, declining sales prove that imo.
New exciting ips is where xbox needs to go.

Longadog1713d ago (Edited 1713d ago )

just make it a brainless fp shooter and watch the green flock praise it like its the next best thing since sliced bread .. anything more complicated than that, good luck selling it.

SyntheticForm1713d ago

They don't need to leave Halo and Gears behind, though to be honest I personally wouldn't mind if they did so in lieu of different, equally big pursuits.

Exciting new IPs is exactly what Xbox needs; this single big problem has been hanging over Xbox since 2014. I want them to go the route of Sony while still maintaining their established franchises.

It's simple really - just make more high budget games.

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StormLegend1713d ago

Yeah that's sad, any game deserves a second chance to improve. Killing a game of the first try just makes things harder.

Chevalier1713d ago

First Uncharted sales were like 50,000 in its first month, can you imagine if Sony just gave up on that franchise? I would think they need a strategy and put in some effort to build up their fanbase. MS hasn't really been about nurturing their new properties

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Microsoft Seemingly Closes Bethesda France

As part of its plans to cut 1,900 jobs, Microsoft has reportedly shut down operations at Bethesda France, letting go roughly 15 people

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Hereandthere8h ago

Microsoft should have left them stay 3rd party

GamerRN6h ago

If they are let go, they can be whatever they want. They ARE 3rd party now... 🤦

Barlos3h ago

Yeah, they're also jobless.

PassNextquestion8h ago(Edited 8h ago)

Bethesda France was made up of roughly 15 people... they couldn't of being doing much

Bethesda France mainly did publishing and marketing within the region

blacktiger6h ago

that's a shame for you to say that, i'm sure Elite loves hearing what you just said.

Profchaos8h ago(Edited 8h ago)

Bethesda France focused on publishing and marketing in the region. And 15 people lost their jobs as part of the closure.

I wonder if this is part of Microsoft's strategy to abandoned physical media or possibly gamepass advertising makes their roles redundant you don't need to market a game as hard when the majority of players get the game as part of a sub which already promoted upcoming games

Tacoboto7h ago

It's France too, there's a high likelihood only 1-2 people on the team even had an Xbox.

Profchaos7h ago

Possibly guven all the leaks we know the Xbox brand is really struggling in the region.

Yi-Long4h ago

Well, if your consoles and games are barely found in any stores any more, of course you're gonna struggle finding consumers ...

XiNatsuDragnel7h ago

Tbh Microsoft I think Bethesda being 3rd party same with Activision would probably more competitive than thus scenario imo

Profchaos5h ago(Edited 5h ago)

I think it would have been better for all parties really especially gamers

TheColbertinator6h ago

The recently purchased Activision French offices might take over all the licensing and marketing for Microsoft in France from now on.

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I’m Glad Atlus & SE Changed Dates To Avoid Competing With Shadow Of The Erdtree

Saad from eXputer: "I'm glad I don't have to choose between Square Enix, Atlus, and FromSoftware due to bad release windows and Shadow of the Erdtree."

H91d 2h ago

More intelligent than guerilla games

raWfodog8h ago(Edited 8h ago)

Atlus is releasing their game one week before Erdtree, SE is releasing theirs one week after.

HZD released four days before Zelda, HFW released one week before Elden Ring.

It seems to me like they are still releasing their games too close to Erdtree.

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Sony Could Increase Your Game's Difficulty If It Sees You Complain About It

Sony has recently published a new patent that wants to dynamically handle the games' difficulty and gameplay based on the player's emotions.

jznrpg9h ago

This is something I might use. Sometimes I play some good games but they don’t have difficulty option and are a little too easy.

Profchaos9h ago

Souls games will be like that players struggling make it harder

PassNextquestion8h ago(Edited 8h ago)

I think if used correctly it could work well

jambola4h ago

cool idea
cool idea for horror games especially
the way it's explained here sounds like it could never be forced hopefully, so that's ok with me

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