Microsoft is one of the biggest publishers in the world, so why can't gamers depend on it to support its franchises?
If a game doesn't sell, or isn't successful critically, a sequel isn't always likely. Publishers aren't in the business of throwing money away.
I mean Sony did with Knack. No one asked for it but they made a sequel anyway.
It sucks that xbox fans have to beg for new games
Which if all accounts are correct was part of the deal with Mark Cerny to build the PS4
Knack got 1.88million physical sales though and a average critic score of 8.4 so that's why it got a sequal.
@sprinterboy "Knack got 1.88million physical sales though and a average critic score of 8.4 so that's why it got a sequal." Lol! What? https://www.metacritic.com/...
They're trying to half use VG Chartz http://www.vgchartz.com/gam... There is only one "critic review" via VGChartz. Though they say 1m was shipped, not "1.88m physical sales".
Knack sold nearly 2 million units globally. I'm not sure what the budget for the game was but I bet it was profitable.
Yeah but they shouldn’t have.
Don't know how knack 2 is (only played the demo and just did not click with me), but Knack 1 is one hell of a fun game (maybe a bit too hard on hard,.. but fun and mechanically rich enough. It almost ratchet quality if not better in some oldschool ways.
I'm just glad we are getting an Ori sequel. That game is a gem and one of the few great exclusives Xbox published this gen.
That brilliant work of metroidvania may be Microsoft's best exclusive this generation.
Few being the operative word.
Its ironic that the 2 best new ip's on xbox this gen are both indies, Ori and cuphead.
Ori, Cuphead...,...,...,...Forza 4,5,6,7, Forza H 1, 2, 3,
Ori and the Blind Forest sold well, got good reviews and strong fan reception, it was a no brainier for MS to do a sequel. However games like the following: Sunset Overdrive, Ryse, Quantum Break & ReCore didn't or aren't getting sequels due to a mixture of under performing sales (Qunatum Break,Sunset Overdrive & Ryse), mediocre reception (Ryse & ReCore) , or MS not owning the ip (Sunset Overdrive and Ryse)
Cept its not lol i have no xbox and played ori
What the hell happened to The Last Night? It fell off the map.
Excellent answer. Now tell me, why do N4G Playstation fans keep begging for a The Order 1886 sequel?
So I can shoot those vampires they teased in 1886
That's just ridiculous. Gotta beg for sequels
Pretty much. These games take huge investments, I’m sure there’s rooms full of people that know the numbers that decided weather or not to do it. Just because a vocal minority screams for something on the internet doesn’t mean even they will buy it. People like to complain it’s human nature, sometimes it’s called for but there’s also just misurable people that do it none stop
Sadly most fans don't like the games usually expect for Halo, Gears, and Forza, but that's changing tho
Halo, Gear, and Forza have a huge established fanbase that's why they are always making those games. "Sadly most fans don't like the games" I'm sorry but you don't speak for every Xbox gamer. They do like games like Sunset overdrive, Alan Wake, Ryse, Recore, Quantum Break, Killer Instinct and want sequels for all those games.
I loved Sunset Overdrive, Alan Wske, Ryse etc, plus I would sell a lung for a sequel to Crimson Skies.
@Spurg Why did most those games have poor sales then? Don't get me wrong I love sunset overdrive, alan wake and ryse but clearly I was in the minority. Killer instinct has been very successful and I will be shocked if they don't announce a sequel for next gen
And yet the reality of the situation proves you wrong. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.c... https://www.gamespot.com/ar... https://www.cgmagonline.com... https://gamefaqs.gamespot.c... This is also why Microsoft stopped releasing sales figures this gen and created gamepass in an effort to make money from a service instead of trying to sell people games they clearly don't want outside of the usual Halo Gears and Forza offerings.
noisy fanbase ... oh definitely but huge? (in saitama expression) ok
@mark, I'm going to gues and say the reason those games didnt sell well was also why the system as a whole didnt sell well. People were just turned off by the initial information. So those games sold to whatever the base was at the time. It certainly has grown over the years but sadly there is a stigma that new customers dont go back and buy older releases. They buy whatever is current and want new games going forward. Its a real shame too as those early releases are still quite good and fun to play. I didnt get my xbo until three years in and I went for those because they were cheap (but then again 2nd hand sales dont really count in the overall sales because they were already counted at one time).
@Spurg well I'm not wrong here, and @Solid owned you Spurg
@Parch - what designates poor sales? Sunset Overdrive (according to vgchartz) sold 1.16 million. That's not bad.. Also according to VGChartz: Overwatch (2.72m) Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six: Siege (2.71m) Tom Clancy's The Division (2.59m) Destiny 2 (2.35m) Battlefield 4 (2.09m) Star Wars Battlefront II (2017) (1.92m) Far Cry 4 (1.68m) Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Wildlands (1.61m) Doom (2016) (1.45m) Titanfall 2 (1.37m) Destiny: The Taken King (1.27m) Battlefield: Hardline (1.24m) Plants vs. Zombies: Garden Warfare 2 (0.86m) Wolfenstein: The New Order (0.75m) Plants vs. Zombies: Garden Warfare (0.71m) Wolfenstein II: The New Colossus (0.70m) Borderlands: The Handsome Collection (0.68m) Evolve (0.67m) Alien: Isolation (0.52m) BioShock The Collection (0.48m)
There is Killer Instinct 2, which is a sequel
Only Playstation and Nintendo are allowed to make the same game over and over again Uncharted 26 Mario bros 2565 Mario 2565 full HD edition Gran Turismo 16 Luigi Mansion playmates hue hefner edition God of war 17
No he didn't Solid links aren't even creditable, for God's sake he post a forum link 😆 I'd believe Vgcharcmts over a random forum user. And it is confirmed sunset sold over 1 million now 300k so Solid post is BS (as usual) and No way owned him. You're right saying most fans don't but you can say that about 90% of new IP. According to you unless the game sell to 50% of the fanbase most don't right?
Personally i think it's time to build new franchises if a game sells well instead of trying to make a sequel to something older.
Spiderman, God of War, Gran Turismo, Wipeout, Uncharted, Ratchet and Clank all say hi. Seriously though, there is nothing wrong with keeping a franchise alive with new iterations. If the series doesn't sell well though, that's a different matter.
Any software designed to say hi is probably saying hello world.
Spider-Man is not a sequel. There have been other spider-man games but there is no relation or connection other than a license. But sequels are fine. I’d have liked more new IPs on every console. Horizon being one of the highlights.
Exactly leave halo and gears behind, declining sales prove that imo. New exciting ips is where xbox needs to go.
just make it a brainless fp shooter and watch the green flock praise it like its the next best thing since sliced bread .. anything more complicated than that, good luck selling it.
They don't need to leave Halo and Gears behind, though to be honest I personally wouldn't mind if they did so in lieu of different, equally big pursuits. Exciting new IPs is exactly what Xbox needs; this single big problem has been hanging over Xbox since 2014. I want them to go the route of Sony while still maintaining their established franchises. It's simple really - just make more high budget games.
Yeah that's sad, any game deserves a second chance to improve. Killing a game of the first try just makes things harder.
First Uncharted sales were like 50,000 in its first month, can you imagine if Sony just gave up on that franchise? I would think they need a strategy and put in some effort to build up their fanbase. MS hasn't really been about nurturing their new properties
It does suck... But Xbox drones like to defend M$ like it's okay. Deep down they know they're pissed. They just hate to admit it.
Literally every one has said Microsoft needs to invest in more games which they now are no One defended them saying otherwise your making stuff up
What? There are loads of articles on n4g where the topic of games and the lack of them this gen has come up for ms, and in everyone xbox fans were running defence, including yourself, why the revisionist history for?🤣 Why make stuff up when it's so easy to find?🤷♂️
They need to stop making so many halo, forza, gears, and start with something fresh.
There hasn’t been a Halo in 4 years next one is 2020 5 years from the last one I don’t want to wait another 5 years for a new Halo no thanks Ms can make new games and continue old ones that are loved by millions
Then I guess its the lack of big games in between that makes it seem like these franchises are stale. And thats true, they can do both. Im not saying stop making these games. If people are buying them then they should/will make more.
It’s gonna be like 5 years sense the last halo and like 4 sense the last gears the only rotation yearly game is forza and that’s mixed with horizon
I can't agree with making so many bc if they are making good games, then great. They definitely need new IPs and stellar ones at that. Good luck to them, and their fans. For the sake of healthy competition I wish them well.
They've got 6 gears of war, like 7 halos and 13 forzas. If anything, they should make some bold new games.
Yep let’s see what the new studios produce
It comes down to the fact that Microsoft outsourced all their games and now they aren’t willing to fund those sequels from devs outside the Xbox game studios family
Until now with all the studios they have bought it will all come from Microsoft umbrella just like how Sony does it
This isn’t just a Microsoft issue.
Please we all have to beg for sequels
MS goal is to release a new game every 3 months. I assume that wont be possible until next gen when all its studios are in full force. Also its very likely that by EA next year they will announce a bunch more studios.
They have to beg for first party games in general.
Beeeeg you bchs!
What do you mean? My problem honestly is that there are too many freaking sequels, of long dead or incredibly stale passed their prime franchises that continue to take up real estate space instead of new things getting the push and marketing. Also some games are just bad and licensing/budget things happen on all platforms with all dev teams, that's life.
Clearly Microsoft basically screwed up this generation. I do not say that with relish. I’m a fan of video games regardless who produces them. Let’s look forward to what comes next. The past is the past. Tomorrow is another country. I’m excited at the prospect of new horizons for all.
Yes it does. I'm one of those fools always begging
Because MS only believes in GaaS games these days.
Keep Begging, Dr Phil is listening
Um what? Forza 7, gears 5, forza horizon 4, halo 6, state of decay 2 and so on...
And I will keep asking for squeals until Microsoft listens and makes them. I would LOVE to see squeals for: Kameo Fable Banjo Perfect Dark Mech Assualt Project Gotham Racing Otogi Crimson Skies
It's seriously unbelievable that thay haven't made a Perfect Dark sequel.
I second that. KI deserves another entry