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PAX responds to Colin Moriarty controversy but will "not issue refunds"

"PAX West has issued a response to Colin Moriarty's claim that it misled his fans after canceling his PlayStation podcast panel."

Mr Pumblechook2117d ago (Edited 2117d ago )

This whole saga reveals so much about the sorry state of games ‘journalism.’ PAX we’re unprofessional for rescinding the invite, it indicates that democracy in the USA is threatened. However what’s worst is the games media all deliberately not covering the story because they are aligned with PAX and don’t want to give Colin Moriarty coverage. But this isn’t journalism.

Kotaku, IGN, Polygon, Eurogamer, Kinda Funny, Gamespot and many more are all guilty of this conspiracy of silence.

Anorexorcist2117d ago

So what you're saying is that Kotaku, IGN, Polygon, Eurogamer, Kinda Funny, Gamespot and others are the Gaming wing of the Fake News syndicate?

gamer78042117d ago

we'll see if any of these "gaming news" sites cover this... I would hope that kinda funny atleast covers it, pretty shameful that only private journalists are the ones writing any stories about this.

bluefox7552117d ago

Much like actual journalism, games journalism is a complete joke these days. No one takes them seriously, they've been relegated to rage bait factories.

Mr Pumblechook2117d ago

@Anorexorcist. No. Please read my post as that isn’t what I said! Journalism is about reporting news objectively, free from bias. It also means not burying stories (i.e. not reporting newsworthy stories) for personal or ideological reasons.

monkey6022117d ago

I guess we know now what Jim Sterling will have as a topic this week so.

pinkcrocodile752117d ago (Edited 2117d ago )

Never get your news from 1 source, always look at competing arguments and if possible check sources cited.

Gaming media is closely related to chimpanzees flinging shit at the wall and don't get me started on Twitter-twats.

When the news starts referring to twitter twats for news content, it usually means they couldn't be f@cked to do their job.

Servbot412117d ago

Maybe if white supremacists could go two days without committing a mass shooting spree people would be more welcoming of conservatives.

Sharky2312117d ago

I bet IGN, Kotaku, and kinda funny will be there. You can’t tell me that Sacred Symbols doesn’t deserve to be there. If they double booked say it. Then just figure out how to make it right. The silence... then vague response makes me feel like something else is going on. That’s just my opinion.... I could be wrong.

esherwood2117d ago

Games journalism is infested with liberal nut jobs that have been hyping each other up in there little bubbles forever.

ginganinja2117d ago

Democracy in the US is under threat because a panel at PAX is cancelled. Geez, the comments on this site go from pathetic to delusional.

Maybe the 'big' sites not covering this is more a case of 'no-one cares!'.

zodiac9092116d ago

@Anorexorcist That is EXACTLY what they are saying. And they are 100% correct, especially when it comes to IGN.

Mr Pumblechook2116d ago

@ginganinja said "Democracy in the US is under threat because a panel at PAX is cancelled. Geez, the comments on this site go from pathetic to delusional."

Let me break it down so you can understand what the issue is, Colin Moriarty had his invite rescinded because he isn't a Democrat.

I get my politics from political news, I have no preference for left-wing or right-wing politics in games, I don't want 'journalists' shilling their biases when I read a movie review, or a football match review, or a video game review.

BUT It seems that the games media in the US (perhaps in reaction to Trump) has become ultra partisan with them only hiring people who are Democrats and refusing to hire Republicans - just look at Kotaku and Polygon.

Everyone is entitled their opinions but it becomes a problem when you have a gaming personality like Colin Moriarty (right leaning) being treated like a pariah because he isn't a Democrat. This means gaming reporters have written multiple articles likening him to an extremist (he really isn't) and coverage of him is banned on ResetEra. Then when he has his panel withdrawn, which IS a major news story, they confer not to cover it.

But what PAX did would likely be illegal in the EU because you cannot discriminate against a person because of their race, their religion, their gender, their sexual orientation and even (if it's not extremism) their politics.

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NecrumOddBoy2118d ago (Edited 2118d ago )

Colin Moriarty has always busted his ass for the industry. IGN and Kinda Funny owe him for their success. I wouldn't want to call it before they issue a response but I hope this isn't another attempt at stopping a "conservative" voice. Colin and Chris deserve a response.

sprinterboy2117d ago (Edited 2117d ago )

KFG is pants now mate, I still enjoy there E3 predictions and stuff but there daily stuff is piss poor these days.

Edit: the episode after Greg got that award and didn't thank any of the kfg staff, the face on Colin was said it all.
Greg thinks he's a celebrity now

fiveby92117d ago

I haven't viewed or read any KFG content since Colin left. Have no plans to go back.

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Atom6662117d ago

KF is all hype and noise, but no substance. It kills me that the group has access to so many resources and information, yet produce nothing of substance. Uniformed nonsense gets the views, I guess.

I haven't tuned in since Colin left.

Sono4212117d ago

It's so true, Kevin is the only one I actually like at KFG anymore, I used to love Colin Greg and even Tim, but ever since Colin left Greg and Tim just seem more and more like fake, less genuine, hype beasts. Glad to see Colin has more people supporting him on Patreon than KFG, clearly he was the heavyweight of the group.

oasdada2117d ago

Watch easyallies.. So authentic and so much better and their e3 predictions are just the best ive seen ever!

neutralgamer19922117d ago

sprinter

KOF is bad simple as that. Miller thinks he is some big shot celebrity more than anything now

IamTylerDurden12117d ago (Edited 2117d ago )

After Greg won trending or influential gamer, or whatever the f*** it was, that was the beginning of the end. I initially liked Colin + Greg on IGN/Beyond early days. They complimented each other well. Colin was the brains and the gaming insider and Greg was the spunk. But as time went on Greg kept getting louder and more overwhelming. Even at the start of Kinda Funny Greg's ego was huge and his personality was out of control, but once he won the award Colin really took a backseat to the Greg Miller show. I imagine Greg started dominating the creative decisions by that point as well. The sad thing is, Colin really took Greg under his wing in the IGN early days. Colin was the professional with real inside connections and he schooled Greg because they were friends. Greg Miller was a casual nerd who wanted notoriety. Greg is all flash and no substance, he likes Lego games and Nintendo Switch. Colin is a gaming insider with a love of Sony and a passion for writing and history. He loves Japanese games and Megaman. I guess certain ppl will align more with Greg, Fortnite and popcorn gaming is popular for a reason. We live in a pewdiepie, Minecraft universe where obnoxious YouTubers are gods, but i prefer the understated style of Colin Moriarty. I'm attracted to substance over flash and i'll take an in depth 20 minute conversation over a series of loud, obnoxious clips. Ppl like Colin Moriarty are far and few in the industry, while the KFG crew is the same loud hipster casuals u see everywhere.

bangoskank2117d ago

Some of these game journalists-if you want to call them that-think they're rockstars. It's astounding actually.
While I disagree with a lot of Colin's views I enjoy his podcasts and appreciate who he is.
Tried to listen to KFG but Miller cannot keep himself from yelling and Tim is an f'ing idiot.

thepluggy2116d ago

Greg Miller is an asshole, cant stand him, Tim is just as bad too, and that "the best friends" bullshit they have on their show is such crap, we all know what Greg does to his best friends.

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Summons752117d ago

Is it because of his political views? He does a great job and keeping politics out of his PlayStation podcast unless it crosses over like the worries about the trade war and tariffs affecting next-gen consoles and pricing.

IamTylerDurden12117d ago (Edited 2117d ago )

I hate Colin's politics, but i enjoy his gaming coverage. I separate the two and ignore the politics. On the other hand i can't stand Greg/KFG, but i'm sure my politics more closely align with their's. However, when i seek out gaming coverage i'm not thinking about politics. If i want politics i'll go to a source that covers it professionally. I can't roast Colin and promote Greg simply because of how they lean politically. In certain areas a person's political affiliation can have a greater impact on my feelings towards them, but in gaming i try to keep it separate and enjoy. At least in Colin's case i do, because Colin has earned a certain amount of cred in this industry and he deserves to be respected for his gaming acumen. Unless he allows politics to sour his gaming coverage, which he hasn't done in the past. Maybe he's gone nutty, idk? Truth is i don't really seek out that type of gaming coverage anymore. I don't enjoy most major sites, KFG is terrible, and once Colin left and started doing history podcasts and dropped gaming i stopped caring. But the Colin i knew was about gaming when it was gaming, politics didn't poison his gaming coverage. Hopefully that hasn't changed because Colin is great when he keeps it strictly gaming.

senorfartcushion2115d ago

Yeah, it is. There are a lot of centrists in the mainstream videogame journalism scene and they're usually the ones to be tribal about the whole ordeal; they're the Republicans of the good side (and yes it is the good side.)

Centrists always handle politics clumsily. They're only good for keeping the people within the reach of the right. They're as greedy as republicans, they're just a lot stupider.

IamTylerDurden12117d ago (Edited 2117d ago )

Colin has always been the voice of reason and the true gaming insider in the Greg/KFG bunch. Greg/KFG is worthless without him and it has simply devolved into an obnoxious joke fest where nothing is taken seriously and where real, hardcore gaming discussion goes to die. Colin always held the wheels on and without him it's just an unfunny frat house of inside jokes, bad facial hair, stupid tee-shirts, flabby faux hipster nerds with inflated egos, and casual gaming coverage aimed at the lowest common denominator.

To be honest, ever since Colin left IGN/Beyond podcast both have been terrible. Max is hideous on IGN and Greg, Gettys, Scarpino, and Cortez are nauseating on KFG.

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Atomicjuicer2117d ago

Boycott platforms who deplatform conservatives.

Get woke go broke

Silly gameAr2117d ago (Edited 2117d ago )

Ugh this dumb ass phrase. Who ever came up with "get woke go broke" should have the ground break under them and be swallowed up into a sinkhole.

Servbot412117d ago

Trump supporters have come up with the dumbest phrases.

Silly gameAr2117d ago (Edited 2117d ago )

@Peekayboo

You think I'm hurt? I think I'm the least hurt in this whole thread lol.

If you don't think that phrase is as dumb as hell as well, then I don't know what to say. Everybody has their own opinions.

Ser2117d ago

Way to counter his sentiment.

"haha phrase is big dum"

Soybetaboy2117d ago (Edited 2117d ago )

But the phrase is cooollll

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Samus7072116d ago

Agreed. Have literally gone to PAX every year since inception but I won't be back now. I will not abide such extreme disrespect, both for the fans and for half of the world/country. "The Right" is not just some fringe in the United States, its half the friggin planet.

FullmetalRoyale2116d ago

What's so crazy is that Colin is always open to other views. I cannot stand how people behave nowadays. Frankly, it's embarrassing.

Barneyco2117d ago

I want to thank PAX. They finally pushed me to become a patron for Colin's Last Stand.

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Xbox May Update: Retro Classics Come to Xbox Game Pass, PC Gaming Updates, and More

A variety of new updates are available this month across the gaming platforms. Coming today, Retro Classics games are available to play for Xbox Game Pass members. Players who stream on the Xbox app on PC now have an additional streaming option with GeForce Now. Game Bar introduces quick settings, visual updates for Widgets in Compact Mode, and coming soon, Microsoft Edge Game Assist, an in-game browser that brings an immersive game-centric experience to Edge. And Xbox gift cards can now be redeemed for any amount via Xbox Rewards.

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darthv7212h ago

While i appreciate the gesture.... all of these retro classics have been made available everywhere else. I am hoping to see some other Activision properties make their way out of the shackles of the 5th, 6th and 7th gen. Licensing be damned... bring back the Transformers Cybertron games.

P_Bomb4h ago

Love the Cybertron games! TF games have been shit lately. Would love to see that era revisited. I even did the multiplayer!

Obscure_Observer7h ago

Metaphor on Gamepass just announced! O.o

Seriously, this is the best generation of Xbox ever!!!

We can´t catch a freaking break from awesome games arriving all the time!!!

Deathdeliverer4h ago

It’s a HELL of a game. If you like JRPGs in the family of Persona, you will be in heaven… that is until you hear the various battle music…. then you’ll be somewhere BEYOND heaven!

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Former PlayStation boss says 'stupid money' crippled the game industry

Shuhei Yoshida offers his take on the recent industry implosion and ponders whether there's light at the end of the tunnel.

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Jin_Sakai22h ago(Edited 22h ago)

Greed crippled the game industry and other things I won’t go into.

DarXyde13h ago

Ironically, so did tech advancements.
New tech creates pressure to take full advantage of the power for people to feel a box is worth it. That expectation bloats team sizes (and by extension, costs) and to be more secure in a high risk-high reward project, they play it safe (which is why I think a lot of the industry is facing creative bankruptcy). Few franchises are proper exceptions because they're damn near entitled to a ROI.

But other than that? I'd say the adoption of Blu-ray in the PS3 kind of acted as the architect to some of the things some of us hate today. The decision to adopt it resulted in painfully show loading times because the drive was slow in the PS3. The result was mandating every console to have an HDD for installs, and Xbox 360 then discontinued those arcade models and every console came with an HDD. That adopted standard lead to a lot of games that were physical only to be available via download and that laid a path for digital distribution and the gradual death of physical media we're witnessing now. It was always going to be this way eventually, but it's hard to think that guaranteeing a HDD didn't lay some important groundwork. And now with crazy fast SSD storage and download speeds, it's gotten worse and now we're bloody streaming games via cloud computing.

Rage7710h ago

Really great take on how we got to this point. Will add that the weaponizing/monetizing of the "console warring" concept, accelerated/facilitated all of your points. When you take what used to be simple bantering and jabbing between different fanbases and throw money/resources at it as the most effective marketing tool, instead of improving any areas that might add longevity to your products, you only improve sales while creating a destructive environment. Which now has come full circle. Gaming media/tech sites capitalized on this as well. So we now end up in a landscape where we get less for more, nobody is held accountable (unless you are Nintendo in which case, you will always be blamed for everything including world hunger) and what you now call and parade as "greed" to defend you own greedy company is years upon years of every asshat that has paid in $$$ what these companies get away with today, but yeah that "burn" or "you got ratioed" or "fanboy" this and that was worth it huh.

ZycoFox22h ago

It's also screwing over gamers with limited budgets for PC hardware, well Nvidia is trying to at least.

Knushwood Butt21h ago

OK, but what did Shu do about this while he was working in the industry?
If he felt so strongly about it, why didn't he quit sooner?
I'm honestly getting a bit tired of seeing this guy come out with all this stuff, week after week, yet he didn't seem to do anything about it when he was a prominent figure IN the industry.
*I got passed over for the CEO role and sidelined into an Indies CRM role, but I just sucked it up and did it for several years.* Great.

Lightning7721h ago(Edited 21h ago)

"If he felt so strongly about it, why didn't he quit sooner?"

Jim Ryan held him and down and demoted him to Indy role as you pointed out. We all wondered why Shuhei was never put in charge in the past and everyone else seemingly passing him up in high position's. Everyone getting promoted except him. He also spoke up about the LS awhile ago then folded and was actually help make Concord.

If it's not making the most money and attempt to have conversation that maximize profit they won't promote. Why? Because Shuhei was seemingly for the ppl.

Despite his 80$ comment on games.

Knushwood Butt20h ago(Edited 20h ago)

'then folded and was actually help make Concord'.
Right, so once again he just sucked it up and went against what he thought was the correct path.
He also clearly didn't turn things around for Concord.
Seriously, if he felt so strongly about this stuff he should have quit ages ago; not just suck it up for years and then bitch about it to the public AFTER he quit.

zaanan11h ago

Agree.
It’s easy to armchair QB other people’s decisions, but it’s all speculation. Maybe he loved Sony and wanted to see if things would turn around. It’s also hard to leave a place when you have been there so long. You think you have friends who will help you out, until you don’t. The corporate world really is dog eat dog. Having obligations like family also makes you do things you may not want to do in a perfect world. But this world is far from perfect, and so are we. So I will cut Shu some slack.

Lightning7720h ago

"Right, so once again he just sucked it up at went against what he thought was the correct path."

I mean yeah. He didn't have much of a choice. It was either go with what Jim wanted or get fired.

He went against LS but had to help with it anyway. Probably talked about all the bad spending that Sony was doing (and still are.) Corps don't want you to talk sense, they want to I to talk cents. That's goes for everybody.

Not sure why he didn't leave earlier he probably wanted to wait for the right opportunity to leave on a high note or leave on his terms. Much better than getting forced out.

Knushwood Butt15h ago

Yeah, and sure, leadership don't want anyone rocking the boat; they just want 'yes' people through the ranks, but Shu didn't quit and make a point; he sucked it up for months or years. Nor did he go out on a high note.
If he felt so strongly about this stuff he should have told Jim to shove it, and join xbox, but he didn't.

thorstein18h ago

At least he's talking about it and it's not just some anonymous internet person. That's why I posted his take. He was on the inside.

He knows better than most what's going on.

We live in a weird world where primary sources don't mean anything, evidence and reason hold no weight, but rumors and speculation hold the day.

Knushwood Butt15h ago

Yeah, agree in general, but pretty much everything he's said since he quit could have been covered in a 30 minute interview.
Next week:
In a new interview, Shu reveals that he knew factions was going to get canned months in advance, but was powerless to do anything about it so just sat back and kept his mouth shut (and getting a juicy salary).

SO71D15h ago

@Knushwood You don't work do you?

Knushwood Butt14h ago

I don't work for a corporation.

Outside_ofthe_Box11h ago

@SO1D

Was just going to say this. You can say this about anybody. Anyone on n4g that complains about greed but are doing nothing at their jobs to stop it... How dare you!

Knushwood Butt1h ago

@ Outside

It's not just greed though; it's flat out bad decisions and poor leadership, and Shu was one of those leaders.

Christopher8h ago

Because everyone knows you can really change the industry by quitting and being an outsider. I mean, his comments now aren't changing the industry at all. What would have been the advantage of doing it 8 years earlier?

Knushwood Butt6h ago

He didn't, and doesn't, have to be an outsider though.

And great job by him calling out all of this stuff in hindsight. 'The Embracer thing turned out to be a train wreck'. Was he predicting this as it was happening?

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Lightning7719h ago(Edited 19h ago)

As gamers we also need to make it clear what we want. Do we want fancy RT and RT
shadows, global illumination etc? Oh that's right we have to do the internet thing and brag about all those things. What we need is innovative gameplay mechanics and deeper more dynamic story telling and reactive realistic worlds and characters imo. Emphasis on Innovative gameplay mechanics. Expedition 33 was made by a tiny group of 30 ppl. Not sure what the budget was but I know it wasn't no 400m$ project or nothing crazy like that.

They join the Baldurs Gate team for being independent and releasing great game with out corporate meddling and stupidly big budget's that kills jobs and studios. If more groups get to together remain independent and create games for gamers and fans this industry would be better off in the future. Again it's about getting away from big corpos because corpos aren't gonna change, ever, they're just not. Scary to be out on your own? Yes but high risk high reward again as we've seen.

anast14h ago

I like how they talk like this is a recent phenomenon.

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