Sony if you are listening, please change your mind on no price cuts. You have a chance to pull yourself out of last place every month with a strategic hardware cut in time for the holiday season.
no this weeks sales reports showed that the ps3 is back on track.
Everyone is trying to find fault on Sony. Trying to find those nails to a Sony coffin? They're having a hard time finding those nails.
Doesn't matter what every one say, the PS3 is too expensive for casual gamers, especially in this financial problem, and it could use a price cut, even if it did came out in first place this month, with a price cut it will only sell more. Even a 50$ price cut will increase(or even doubles) sales, and you don't need a financial genius to figure that out.
Well earth to sore losers and bitters: UP YOUR FINANCES. You cannot expect Sony to finance your console for you. They have the best line up of games ever seen, if you want one that bad, then buy one. If you cant afford one, you should have upped your finances long ago. And price cuts do not help console get ahead. In accounting terms, when a company does price cuts, its "borrowing sales" from the future period. Total sales in console life time does not change. Just the yearly sales.
they just wiped out Microsofts 7 week run in japan with a one week whooping. the ps3 beat the 360 all year at a a higher price point. while price cuts are always welcome but to say its needed is a bit off. with the price of stand alone br players coming down it might come sometime next year. how about a 400 dollar Killzone 2 bundle Sony. :)
PS3 may be selling good... it's only a matter of time before it won't sell any more at that price... if there is a price cut, it will only sell more ps3's not less.. but i guess Sony's finance guys are better at this than me !1! but on the other hand, as crippleH said, the stock market is in chaos.. Sony can't afford a price cut at this time.. Microsoft may have been able to with their big stacks of money, but Sony has a bigger problem than MS if it comes to the console price..
I find it somewhat humorous. People love to rag on the PS3, and as such the media shows it's love for attacking a potential contender. As The BudgetGamer showed, in a single week the PS3 reached and outsold the total number of the 360s sold during it's 7 week sales increase. You can disagree, but even if you're opinion is different, it's hard to argue with numbers. I'm sorry to say but Japan belongs to it's own brands, Nintendo and Sony. If you cannot accept that, then that is your unfortunately small appraisal of the situation. I agree, the PS3 still has a higher price point than it's competitors but considering what you get as an entire HD package, you really do save a lot of money in the end. Free wireless online connectivity, a larger capacity hard drive. Heck a standard HDD, and included BD drive. There's simply so many reasons to own a PS3 as an HD console that it's easily worth the increased price. As for streaming media, unless you've got a really high speed connection at least 20mbps or higher you can't stream HD video 360 or PS3. The PS3 supports most major media cards with every model. CompactFlash, SD, or Memory Stick Pro, you can save your movies to a memory stick and view them. Or stream them within your own internal network. On top of that it's extremely easy to stream HD media from your own PC wirelessly to the PS3 and watch it. On the 360, you need to spend 100 dollars on the MS proprietary wireless adapter to accomplish the same goal, unless you invest in a wireless ethernet bridge, which most people don't have the technical skill to set up. The PS3 is the entire package, and worth it for the price Sony sells it for. Sure, it would be better to sell it for the cheaper price, but that's not to say it's not already worth what you pay for. When Sony drops the price, they will be in an even better position to occupy more territory.
NOBODY knows how much money Sony is making on each PS3s. Are they making $20, $40, $60 on each consoles? NOBODY know. There's even many people who think they are still not making any profit on the console yet. (Nintendo is the only one who has been selling the Wii for a profit since the launch). Sure enough, by now, the PS3 is likely making a small profit, but NOBODY knows by how much. And when I come here and I read things like that,I alway have a good laugh: "Even a 50$ price cut will increase(or even doubles) sales, and you don't need a financial genius to figure that out." or "if there is a price cut, it will only sell more ps3's not less.." Yep, let say that they make $40 per console now (even if NOBODY knows for real). Lower the price by $50, so you sell way more consoles, and loose $10 on each console sold. Not a financial genius either, but I think it's not a good practice. Sure you sell more boxes, but you loose more money. Dang, I'm sure they would sold more cars if they were $2000. Or they could sell more houses if they were $10000. But it won't happen either!
It doesn't need a price cut, but a price cut would help sell consoles. More importantly though Sony shouldn't cut the price because they are a business, cutting price now would mean they lose a lot more money on each PS3 sold (which would increase dramatically), not to mention the current recession problems. Price cut would be good to the consumer, but bad for business, and Sony needs to stay alive as a business first and foremost. If they did do a price cut now, they would only realistically be able to do a small insignificant cut, which would be pointless.
I class myself a casual gamer and yet i can afford one, thing is even the xbox was pricey at first. :)
Earth to idiots. The stock market is in chaos. You telling them to lose more money when they are close to breaking even. I hope they do not run a company.
How did you get so many disagrees???! +bubbles :)
And this particular idiot is using made up numbers and saying 'work with me.' If he had factual numbers, his arguement may hold more water. Funny thing is, Sony has the actual numbers. If there was and credence to his theory, Sony would have already acted on it. Maybe next he can postulate how gas should only be 25 cents a gallon.
I'm glad someone said it! Bubbles to you. Seriously...corporations that give things away aren't called corporations: they're called charities. Just because Microsoft cut prices doesn't automatically mean everyone else has to. And let's be real: the 360 was overpriced to begin with (esp. after you factored in all the 'not included' stuff); only after the cuts is it now reflective of true market value. Sony began with a reasonable price for what they were selling, so to cut it further now would be silly - they'd be losing money for no good reason.
no matter which way you slice it....sony is taking a long time to catch up. I work in a game shop and all every1 wants to talk about is the wii. At this point in time, i cant see sony bouncing back to number 1 unless something drastic happens. ps/ i own more sony products than you.
i know its kinda mean but i like how gamestop workers pretend themselves to be industry experts
Amen Cripple H. They're basically saying that Sony should go bankrupt for the sake of beating the competition when the economy isn't very strong right now!
season007, exactly, that's a reason why they work as store employee and others work as corporate executive.
However, I think Sony would do better if PS3 had more market exposure.
i own one ps3, and im looking to buy another for my bedroom so my wife and i can enjoy our bluray collection in there and that way i can game when shes watching her shows, when sony drops the ps3 price, they will have another unit sold here, with out the price cut im not in any hurry to get it
Hagaf, so you do realise the value of the PS3 having already bought one. You just don't have the same sense of urgency to purchase the second. Don't forget console manufacturers' business model, lose money on hardware(at least initially), make it up on software. I have recently read that Sony is finally breaking even for each PS3 sold. Owning a second console won't drive you to purchase more games, or even movies. If I decide to purchase a game or movie, the numbers or locations of the playback devices never enters the equation.
Earth to Blog. When you're in charge of a billion dollar company, maybe you're critique of the situation will be valid. You don't get into business to lose money.
5 disagrees? Really? Considering the price of the PS3 against the 360 and the fact it's outselling it, a price drop may attract new customers but if you're losing a ton of money, what's the point?
There are about 5 phantom disagreers on this story for some reason so don't worry about it.
I tend not to, but it's very easy to click "disagree" that make a valid argument. Oh well.
I've lost bubbles for this type of thing, and my comment below has a phantom 6 disagrees, maybe some blog members over there came to "fend for their rant"....I dunno
"I've lost bubbles for this type of thing" Same here. I guess speaking truth to those who don't want to hear it makes them retaliate by taking bubbles instead of entering a proper discussion; with the possibility to maybe understand the situation at hand, while opening their eyes to not be so biased and be real gamers...
why are people just talking dont people know that the ps3 takes more money to make than the 360 face it when you have 33 percent fail rate its for a reason
Don't even get me started on losing bubbles...
Earth to Blogcritic The PS3 is doing quite well without a price cut , Sony is already losing enough money on each PS3 sold , the economy is in the dumps right now , why lose more money when that's not what a business is about...?
for speaking the truth that the PS3 can stay competitve without a price cut unlike some console....Sony doesn't need to bleed extra money just because the competiton is dropping there price also...the PS3 has been matching 360 sales all year..The Wii is another story since neither Sony/M$ is matching there figures .. PS3 needs no price cut till 2009...Bundles do work also..which Sony is good at doing..
They all want a PS3, even though they will deny it in forums. PS3 has the best games line up ever seen and it doesnt matter how they try to rig the reviews and rate down PS3 games again. In all honestly, who doesnt want to play 60 player lag free online fast chaotic, super intense all out war multi player? Who doesnt want to play the most revolutionary 8 player coop? Who doesnt want to build his own levels and upload it to youtube from his PS3 for all to see? Who doesnt want to play the most intense futuristic racing with supersharp graphics, 1080P and 60FPS? Who doesnt want to play the best RPG this year which also happens to be the most tactical and most polished game that is Valkyria Chronicles? Who doesnt to play the most hardcore offroad racing? Who doesnt want to play the most epic game with the most epic ending that is MGS4? Who doesnt want to watch Ironman, the Hulk, the Dark Knight, Quantum of Solace, Indiana, Harry Potter in true 1080P on his Blu Ray player? I can guarantee you that 99% of all gamers out there would want to do this when asked. Unfortunately for them, maybe only 20% can afford a PS3. Thats where all the hate comes from "FK YOU SONY OMGZ" Of course they never look in the mirror themselves because who the hell buys a 360 anyway.
360 need really a huge price cut again to stay on the truck, Sony ps3 doing great last week and it's going better. All these website must shut up BCZ I feel they r speaking with microsoft mouth. No need to Sony losing more they lost enought by giving us free things and services + best gaming hardware + best games + best online (psn)
BLOG??? BLOG??? BLOG??? WTF??? Oh dear!!! Welcome to BloggersNews4Gamers.com!!! ;-D The PS3 is worth EVERY penny!!! ;-P Earth to Bloodmask: Get a New Hobby!!! ;-D
It is worth every penny. But most people don't know that. I thought that my sony friends were smarter than that... Now the first 2 have shown me that they are fanboys too. Sad. How old are you people if you can't admit that this would really help sony. And that sony won't get ahead with out this. Did you two even read the article? Sony could make more money this way. You are an embarrassment to Sony and BIG BOSS.
A price cut will come, eventually.
How are you guys going to "disagree" with that? You can honestly sit there are say the the PS3 is never going to get a price cut? Come on...
if they can sell 200 thousand units alone in US every month, i think the price cut will be in the distant future..
No need for a price cut the xbots need a JOB ROFL!
hahahaha!!! so true!!!
Too bad they're not the only ones who need a job. When will you stop leeching off of daddy's wallet??
they are already losing money on each ps3 sold, and the gains are only hypothetical if they cut price, because they cannot say for sure that they will sell more hardware, and in turn sell more software. its too risky at this time when the economy is down. plus they are selling fine right now, and will continue to sell as bluray continues to boom.
that them popping in an extra 40 Gigs into a bigger HDD is in a way, a price cut. More product for the same money is similar (but not identical) to same product for less money. That is a pretty decent thing to do, IMO, though no, it's not the same as an actual price cut.
the disagrees? No sarcasm here, I'd like to hear why my above comment is any sort of fallacy? I said it's similar but not identical, so I'm not getting it.
When Sony first released the PS3 there was very little interest in the console.That was because people were going mad for the Wii and weither Sony will ever accept this,the console was far too expensive for those casual gamers who just wanted to play games.So Sony dropped out backward compatibility,introduced a dizzying array of SKU's and gave us back our dualshock controls,all in an attempt to woo the casual gamers off there PS2 and over to the new console.The bottom line is that Sony misread the market.They have been far too reliant on brand loyalty and have to accept that they will struggle to ever get the price of the PS3 down low enough to capture the casual gamer.Giving someone an 80gb hard-drive in place of an 40gb hard-drive is not the same as a price cut.The bottom line is that Sony said some months ago that they weren't about to get into a price war with Microsoft and I don't think they will change there minds in the current economic climate.
I'm sure that Sony is hoping that people see the added value in the larger hard drive, but it's going to be a tough sell for gift buyers if they see a different console for $100 less with a 60GB hard drive. And there are still quite a few Pro packs out there with the two pack-in games. The PS3 is doing reasonably well at its current price point, so there's not as much pressure for Sony to drop price. There really won't be unless the 360 starts to pull away significantly. Only time will tell if that will happen. On a side note, I wish that the blog spam on N4G would go away. This site is turning into people submitting blog posts to try to drive traffic to their crappy sites.
"On a side note, I wish that the blog spam on N4G would go away. This site is turning into people submitting blog posts to try to drive traffic to their crappy sites." I completely agree. It's too easy for people to spout their own blog opinions and submit this crap on n4g. Stinks.
Japan stops ignoring the PS3, sales jump 900% Posted Nov 6th 2008 12:00PM by Alan Tsang Looks like all is right with the world again, according to the latest numbers from Media Create. This week on Sony's home turf, the PS3 moved 39,587 units -- outselling the combined figures of the Wii and Xbox 360. Also worth noting is that PS3 sales jumped a whopping 907% from last week, when the PS3 sold only 3,931 units. As we reported yesterday, Grand Theft Auto IV for the PS3 took first place on the Japanese charts -- now we know it has sold 132,676 copies, while LittleBigPlanet and Gran Turismo 5 Prologue: Spec III sold 51,705 and 34,965 copies, respectively. You'll notice that Media Create has released slightly different numbers -- for example, the 360 version of GTA IV is in eighth place now instead of fourth place. Hardware sales are below, software sales are after the jump: Hardware and software sales for the week of October 27th - November 2nd: DSi -- 171,925 PSP -- 50,358 PS3 -- 39,587 Wii -- 23,123 DS Lite -- 16,369 PS2 -- 6,714 Xbox 360 -- 6,119 Grand Theft Auto IV (PS3) -- 132,676 Valkyrie Profile: The Accused One (DS) -- 79,760 LittleBigPlanet (PS3) -- 51,705 Pokemon Platinum (DS) -- 47,243 Wagamama Fassion Girls Mode (DS) -- 40,380 Rhythm Tengoku Gold (DS) -- 38,558 Gran Turismo 5 Prologue: Spec III (PS3) -- 34,965 Grand Theft Auto IV (360) -- 33,648 Your Life's Rhythm DS (DS) -- 26,191 Chocobo's Dungeon DS+ (DS) -- 26,190
LOL all disagree's are xbox cry babies,thats right your 360 got smashed in one week,a KNOCK OUT PUNCH.
wait until White Knight Chronicles comes out in Japan in december,watch the PS3 sales goes off the charts.. view off screen 'TGS 2008' White Knight Chronicles trailer http://gamevideos.1up.com/v...
400$ and you don't even get a headset for online play in there? Come oon.
SOCOM: Confrontation for £30 and there's the best online gaming headset included?????? wowza, now there's a good deal
NO HD CABLES!!! Homeless Lemmings, I Even Got A Free Remote With My Launch System.
Okay? You don't need HD cables to play on the PS3, but you do need a charger kit for the Xbox 360 how lame is that. Xbox 360 doesn't even have Wifi... the Wii has wifi for god sakes.
http://www.metacritic.com/g... No wonder it's £30 with a free headset...
If PS3 sales were actually falling considerably, then I think that it would need a price cut, but PS3 sales have been pretty steady. The PS3 sold over 200K units in September's NPD and PS3 sales increased from August's NPD in comparison to Septembers without a price cut, so I say the PS3 is doing fine. With Sony already reporting a drop in earnings and the way Economy the way is, Sony doesn't want to take anymore losses on PS3 sales at this point. $399 is an affordable price for a PS3 in my opinion. If people can spend $250+ on Cell Phones, IPod Touches, and other electronics, then surely $399 for a PS3 isn't that bad. Even though Sony didn't cut the PS3's price this year, I think that they made the PS3 look even more of an attractive value without actually dropping the price at all because Sony released a 80GB PS3 for $399 and got rid of the 40GB PS3 for $399.
How are you gonna purchase the $60 games and $25 blu-ray movies if you're gonna be stingy and expect Sony to cut the PS3 prices down probably 50 bucks at most. $400 is a great deal for the 80gb PS3. Microsoft is charging $400 for their xbox360 elite console and it doesn't even play blu-ray discs and they charge you for their online services. Blu-ray players alone are selling for $200+! Don't be a scrooge.
The US national debt is a mess. Our stupid ass government has decided to take loans with upwards of %20 interest. To pay these loans off the government has to print more money, causing the value of the dollar to decrease. That and the Yen is appreciating. The exchange rates are kicking Sony's ass right now. We'll have to see, but if SCE doesn't generate profits from this quarter there is going to be some serious reorganization going on internally. This quarter is the bread winner of quarters.
the blogger got caught up with Winning instead of profitting. I hope he doesn't do any business.
And has sold more hardware than the 360 this year. No reason to drop the price yet.
The PS3 has been doing fine without it and even selling more games than on the 360 (as reports from EA, Ubisoft, & Konami have confirmed). It's not that the PS3 "NEEDS" a price cut it's that people "WANT" them to have a price cut. The only reason you have Xbots running around is because they cannot yet afford a PS3 so once there is a price cut then you will see a lot less Xbots because they are only hating on what they can't have.
actually i had a choice last paycheck between getting a 120GB HDD and a few games and a new desk for my stuff, or a ps3 with no backwards compatibility for ps2 games, no game, and a 80 GB HDD for 399.... i choose 120GB HDD the games and the new desk why, i want more for my buck not less. -nai-
We also know that you are the biggest closet fanboy on this site señor Nai. So stop your imaginary shops couse you did't buy sh!t.
LMFAO. now heres the sh!t i bought, god sony fanboys are really stupid. T_T no really im not kidding. this being last paycheck. I get paid again this coming friday, but the ps3 will still have to wait due to x-mas. something all the sony brats cant afford. so what all did i get. (a)1. fallout 2. halo 3 3. ergo proxy box set. (b)1. 120GB HDD (c)1. new desk.*im setting this darn thing up in about 2 hours.* you still going to back mouth me sonybrat. -nai-
U bought the 120gb harddrive for the same price i could be buying a 1 terabyte drive, feel like an idiot yet?
I thought the PS3 was supposed to have passed the 360 in sales by now, like all the fanboys predicted last year. Or maybe you don't remember? Oh well.
Just like how you thought the 360 price cut would completely obliterate the PS3?
If Sony's strategy is so impeccable, how come they are still millions of consoles behind the 360 more than two years after it's release? What happened to the PS2 momentum?
All this talk about console wars is just industry hype to help push sales. I blame the media for blowing out of proportion and thus creating the 'bad fanboy' persona. Does it really matter who sells more than who? I'm just glad they are all still selling well. Don't know about you, but I like to have choices when it comes to gaming. And when there's healthy industry competition going on, consumers are left with better choices. Can you imagine if today Wii was declared the winner and MS and Sony got out of the gaming industry? We'd all be left with one choice. Not a bad choice, mind you, but how crappy would that be? So, please don't fuel the persona, by making statements like, "I thought the PS3 was supposed to have passed the 360 in sales by now, like all the fanboys predicted last year." Enjoy your choices. It's why I don't get into the 'who out selling who' argument, because everybody knows the saying: Second place is the first loser.
Put your bias aside for a second and think about this like a business person. You don't build a business model around your competitors sales. Sony sees an opportunity to once again sell 100 million consoles. They only think about they're competition when they see them jeopardizing those numbers. Right now they're on track to sell 100 mil consoles in ten years, 10 million consoles a year for 10 years. You can bet your ass that if they can do better they will, but the goal is 100 mil and they on track to do that. I honestly think they're going to cut the price tward the end of the fiscal year.