YS Net clarified the game’s many editions
because why reward those who helped fund the idea to begin with.. :/
Gets better every time. I plan on buying it on PS4 because I love the franchise and have both on Dreamcast. But the way they are treating the original backers is crazy. Didn't expect all this nonsense coming from them. They are not making any future friends for any future kickstarters.
At least they not pulling a Star Citizen however it's still unethical
Tough luck, nothing is guaranteed. They don’t deserve the bonuses.
Star Citizen is actually a fully playable game available now for backers. It's just not available to the public yet for whatever reason.
If they're treating people like this already, and then selling to Epic, I'd bet they're hoping to sell out with it entirely. Get picked up and funded by an actual publisher for another game, or sell the IP entirely. It's obvious at this point it was never for the fans, or their desire to create another Shenmue out of care for it. Been about $$$ from the beginning.
Isnt this in line with what they had promised though? They are just saying that the retail special edition and normal version are not related to what the backers will get as promised. Nothing is taken away, he is just clarifying. Or did nobody read the article?
It's not really them so much as it's Deep Silver. Not the first time they've scooped up a Kickstarter game and then treated its backers like crap either.
yea this is so disrespectful I don't get how they can even say something like this.
Because they already got their money xD
Were they promised that? No. Giving to Kickstarter doesn't get you treated like royalty. You get what you're told you will get. People need to stop acting so entitled.
the devs need to remember that without the kickstarter backers, none of this would have happened. So when you start nickle and diming the most loyal of your fans, it looks bad.
I understand the season pass. That's something being developed outside the scope of getting the game kickstarted. But pre-order bonus? That's part of the game they're keeping locked for pre-orders and sold separately, I think the kickstarters should get that at the very least as a thank you for supporting them and their patience.
Remember when Sony was backing this game? Lmao This is another kickstarter shit show.
I never got that, Sony was backing it and yet they also needed Kickstarter.
People consider Yoshida's $50 Kickstarter donation as Sony financially backing the game. When all they did was showcase the game at E3 with Yu Suzuki on stage and told people to go support it on Kickstarter.
I hate that Shenmue 3 is going to have a season pass. Why can't I just get the full experience at launch?
What does the season pass even do for a SP only game?
I'd imagine it adds content. It's far from the first single player game to have a season pass.
I'm sure there were many before it but the assassins creed series has had them.
we have screwed bro. we have screwed gaming. by buying season passes, milked games, xbox lives , ps plus's , dlc's, supporting shady practices, pre orders and microtransactions. sorry bro. sorry for the screw up.
Because the game isn't finished, and they're going to promise content, take even MORE money, and then decide what they can make with it lol. Not gonna waste my disk space on this game.
Are you serious?
Imagine the shit show if after all this controversy the game doesn’t even live up to the hype
The rerelease of 1 and 2 was a realization quick that ppl wanted a memory, not exactly that. It will be a shit show for sure
They have absolutely ruined this. Even if the game turns out to be good now, it has left such a bad taste amongst people. Why the fuck do most games come with season passed now?! Wtf is this shit?
Season pass? I'm almost tempted to boycott.
please do it, i know its hard because we are gamers and love games, and find it hard to not support or buy, but with this whole shitshow make stand and draw a line, its the only way developers will ever learn
Please tell me you also boycott everything from: Activision Electronic Arts Ubisoft Microsoft Nintendo Sony SEGA Square-Enix Capcom Namco Warner Bros Games etc. All of these companies do season passes, pre-order DLC, store-exclusive DLC, over-priced special editions etc.
Pretty much hav avoided them for years.
Artemidorus, this is not a sarcastic question, I'm legitimately curious if you avoid games from those publishers, what games do you actually play then? And which hardware do you play games on?
Many games many platforms and on many different types of hardware. Don't worry about me, focus on the topic at hand.
I guess I could understand not getting a season pass if it wasn't part of the original KS content. But not a pre-order bonus? I know pre-order bonuses are usually pointless, but how much more pre-order can you get than being a backer on KS before the game even goes into production? I'll be getting the PS4 copy because I backed it, but with the way this whole thing has been handled, it seems a bit of consideration towards the backers would be prudent. I know that this is probably mostly all on the publisher, and not the dev. I wonder if he thought it'd ever come to this when he went with KS. He spent so long trying to get the game funded and made, and this publisher was willing to pay if it gained enough on KS, but they pretty much brought a lot of bad will to the project. I'm not even one to say that those upset about them not releasing it on Steam day one are being reasonable since they get the PC version, but now it's just getting stupid. Why does this game even need pre-order bonuses or DLC worthy of a season pass?
They get a different pre-order bonus than retail. I don't see the big deal.
The pre-order bonus isn't a big deal, but it's already part of the game. Why not just throw it in for the supporters as a thanks for the support and patience?
It's not a big deal for me, because preorder bonuses are mostly pointless. Just seems odd to poke the bear more by doing this. The season pass I think is just a bad idea, and wonder when and who thought it would be good. Things seem to have gotten out of control from the original creator finally getting the chance to make this game hes been trying to get funded for over a decade now. It's a thing where if he wanted to continue the series and had to do the same thing, then people would be less willing to back the project. I know he had other games in the series, and maybe that's where the season pass comes in, but I'd be reluctant to back it again since there seems to be a disconnect from what the dev wanted, and what the publisher is now doing.
All this B.S. nonsense started when Deep Silver took over publishing duties from Shibuya Productions. They most likely mandated these business tactics (pre-order DLC / season pass / Epic Store) to Ys Net in order for them to get more money. Games cost so much to make, even smaller indie games like Shenmue 3. People who think that Kickstarter's 7 million is enough simply don't understand. Deep Silver's money made the game better but it also brought upon all these business tactics that's pissing people off. I agree though, they shouldn't 'poke the bear' and of course Kickstarter backers should get the retail pre-order DLC along with the game on launch day. It just makes sense, and comes across as fair and logical to support your biggest fans.
The Kickstarter was to gauge interest, and the amount the original publisher would finance was based on whatever they pulled in through the KS. It's been nothing but downhill since they went exclusive to the Epic Store though. The PC exclusive release on EGS was skirting the line considering they said after the KS the backers would get steam keys, but now this just seems like it's trying to make more money on something that I never would have expected in the game. There was some bonus stuff for backers, and i don't really care so much about the pre-order bonuses if they want to make more, and I never expected a season pass by backing it, but I never expected a season pass to begin with.
It's so they can get more money before they finish work on it lol.
This is become such a shit show. The developers or whoever is responsible should be ashamed. Supported by fans to make this possible and fans kicked in the teeth. Disgraceful..
I've come to the realisation that these people have no idea what they are doing maybe this guy would be better off making a tv show instead of a game
This 'guy'? You mean Yu Suzuki? Dude...smh :/
yeah i played shenmue 1 and after all the crap going down with shenmue 3 maybe games aren't for him, maybe a less interactive medium where season passes or game launcher exclusives aren't an issue
Oh, they know what they're doing. Using people's nostalgia to part them with their money.
I think you're right. Shenmue would fit better in a Quantic Dream type of adventure game. Although the series created and set many of the open world standards, I don't think the open world format fit the games.
It's more likely this is due to the publisher, Deep Silver.
All the pathetic morons that will buy this shit because a shitty nostalgia are what's wrong with gaming, everything wrong with gaming.
Well ive been waiting almost 20 years for this. So you bet your ass im getting it. Already have the PS4 Collectors edition on PREorder. Cant wait will be my game of year regardless what anyone else thinks .
I have the originals for the DC. Beat it many times as a kid. I bought the ps4 version and platinum both games. However, I'm not sure if I'm getting part 3. Just a lot of BS attach to it. It goes behind just what they pulled on KS. I'm not a sucker to nostalgia.
I'm getting what i paid for by being a backer. I'm not upset about this news, but find preorder bonuses and a season pass unnecessary for this game.
Literally whats wrong with gaming are all the morons buying loot box trash, and whatever else microtransaction nonsense in annualized franchises such as Fifa, WWE, Call of Duty, etc. To even call Shenmue fans (who have been waiting NINETEEN YEARS without anything new to play) "what's wrong with gaming" shows how much of an ignorant jackass you truly are. If it was possible to blacklist you on N4G (and unfortunately its not), you'd most certainly be deserving to be blacklisted by everyone here.
Edgy hot take. You are so cool.
Makes 0 sense, but ok... I guess I might as well as not kickstart things and just get them like a normal release. Also, why is there a season pass for this game?
And things like this is why I will NEVER Kickstart games. You risk being screwed over.
Why do I get the feeling that this title is going to crap the bed and be a wasted effort.
Because there are things that shouldn't exist and this game is one of them.
This is starting to get a little out of hand now.
Lets milk the people with a season pass who gives a damn if they funded our game-Yu Suzuki. Its like they want this game to get as much bad pr as possible smdh.
I will never support Kickstarters, want my money, make the game and sell it, if I like it enough I will buy it.
"Thanks for the funding losers" - YS Net