Xbox Head Phil Spencer says that Sea of Thieves wouldn’t be the game it is today if they had waited another year to launch, and that Game Pass helped shape it into what it is.
Because it was made specifically for Game Pass. Its literally the flagship title for the service and was announced with it. Why try to suggest otherwise?
Soooooo...it all worked out then?
Indeed. The game is great
Every MS published game is literally a flagship title for gamepass since it releases on it same day as launch. So I don't get your reasoning. It's like you're literally jealous of a game's success purely cause it released on MS platforms.
sooo.. he's basically saying it was trash and no 1 wudve bought it otherwise
Fanboy comment noted
@oasdada "sooo.. he's basically saying it was trash and no 1 wudve bought it otherwise" Lol https://n4g.com/news/215651... https://n4g.com/news/216489...
Who got your panties in a bunch? Unsurprising really as any positive Xbox article gets trashed daily on this website for the likes of people like you. Fanboyzzzz
Yea keep blaming ur trash on others.. I have both consoles and a pc and yes im a fanboy of good games not trash like this.. U keep defending this BS and we will end up with crap like this everywhere.. Lazy excuses for games
@oasdada love comments like this, So SOT is trash in your eyes not others and this is the key you need to remember. Its your view of the game not someone else's. Example GoT is one of the biggest TV shows of the last 10 years but I did not like it so dose that mean that GoT was trash? Or I just have different taste to others? Its the same with games. You dont like it cool move onto something you do like you will find your self less worked up about life.
Game pass started June 1st 2017. Sea of thieves came out March 20th 2018. It's not the flagship title. Every Ms game is released on the service
💯% agree... I wouldn't have paid a single penny to get the game and yet I played it, thanks to Gamepass...
@Godmars290 "Because it was made specifically for Game Pass." First you said the original Forza was released in the of X360 life circle. Now you´re saying SoT was made specifically for Game Pass when SoT has it development started back when Mattrick was in charge. You´re embarissing yourself. Lol.
Wtf are you talking about? It was a standalone game that they added to Gamepass when they announced that all first party games would be included upon release. You wouldn't be able to buy it separately if it was made specifically for game pass....
What I love is... every single Xbox fan on this site still goes into gtsport articles bashing the game for its constant free support instead of one huge release. While there is no “game pass” or monthly charge. But sea of thieves or game pass all of a sudden sees an imaginary number of likes/dislikes as of trying to sell it. My point.. game pass, Microsoft’s current million dollar marketing focus, does not make a game happen. It has been happening for years. Just like you have to pay to play free to play games on Xbox, this is nothing other than a sales pitch for Microsoft’s direction while ignoring the reality and past of other games. “Hey they support sea of thieves for $10 a month” Microsoft’s media shills spread the news. “Hey, they support gtsport for free” Microsoft’s shills bash the game. 🤔
GT Sport and Sea of thieves are both incomplete games that were sold at full price and the people that bought them already paid for the "free" content and the money that they already gave is the money used to develop the "free" content because no one works for free and these companies don't give anything out of the kindness of their heart. I've been saying the same for both while laughing at people like you that believe that the updates are "free" for either game. The difference is that when I say it on a GT sport article I get disagrees and in Sea of Thieves articles I get agrees.
@gamingunited I lost 5 brain cells just reading that BS, they added an Arena, multiple new PVE/PVP events, new PVE events and brand new areas. Does it still play the same? Well yeah thats how a video game DLC works lmao its not meant to alter the gameplay, by that notion every DLC every launched is a POS. Now get your Sony fanboy squad off the newsfeed
That’s a whole new level of sad
You know you’ve made a mistake when you rely on a subscription service to save your game.
World of Warcraft?
Harmny, Tbh WoW had about 100 times the content when it launched. Hardly an accurate comparison of games with a sub don't you think?
WoW, I don't believe he thought that one through.
GT Sport comes to mind.
Wow doesn't survive because of a sub service, the sub service survives because of WOW. That's the mantra that means a lot more than a game managed to make it because people got it free with a sub, so by sheer numbers, it made it into a viable game. Maybe SoT helps game pass survive, but one has to ask themselves, "would I subscribe to game pass for SoT, or will I just play it because its there?" Depending on the answer to that question, it determines the actual quality of the game to the individual.
More than the Xbox One SAD Edition?
Is that why I barely remember the game exists?
Yet you're in here commenting lol
"Is that why I barely remember the game exists?" clearly you have a PS. this game is posted up pretty much daily on XBL....
That may be true...but its Ms job to market the game to more than just the 30 million xbox users... unless they are content with that... and they might be
No that is probably due to being dropped a lot in early life, but you probably wont remember that either
AMAZING game. Incredible support. 10/10 gameplay and the free 20 hour campaign is exactly what the game needed
"and the free 20 hour campaign is exactly what the game needed" This is one sad f#*^ing line and highlights whats wrong with gaming today. I expect to see unskippable ads in it soon.
“Sea of Thieves needs a story mode” *adds story mode, gets praised because it’s good content* “This is so sad and highlights what’s wrong with gaming” You know it was announced that Borderlands 3’s main story quest will be about 30 hours to complete, right? Why’s that different?
"unskippable ads..." what are you going on about?
@aconnella Whats sad is that its getting praise for free story mode that should have been there since the beginning, thats whats wrong with the industry. "Its ok if we release a shitty incomplete game, we'll give them free content eventually"
53 disagrees, wow, that's also what's wrong with the industry.
10/10 gameplay!?!?!?!? loooooooooooooooool Brooooo! Lay off the drink man! Sea OF Thieves may very well be a fun game but 10/10 gameplay it most certainly is NOT! The combat alone is a 3/10! so i duno wheree this 10 is coming from loool
Look guys...I found one of the scrubs that cries when I sink his boat.
That's your reply...? loooool bro you needa go to sleep you're clearly tired man.
”10/10 gameplay and the free 20 hour campaign is exactly what the game needed“ I never thought I’d see the day when we are praising having a free campaign.
Technically every game that has a campaign has it for free. Unless it’s charge as dlc - which they didnt, hence the praise Also didn’t GT Sport get praised for adding an offline mode post-launch?
@aconnellan Technically games aren't free when you have to pay for them... And a campaign should be a part of just about every game at launch. I think the argument is that success for games on game pass kind of promotes more titles to be released in an unfinished state because it can always be updated later and boasted as getting support from devs and extra free content. That kind of service is a double edged sword for gaming.
Which should have been at launch in the first place. Do you not see where MS are going with this nxt gen? Good luck with incomplete games at launch nxt gen on gamepass with the game being finished and year, 2 years etc over the the course of the gen.
WTF! is this guy still talking?
So he should use sign language, puppets or pictures instead then ?
Lol, Can you imagine Phil as a Muppet on sesame street? I can just imagine the lesson: How to talk without taking a breath! or how about "good exclusives and Phil Spencer"? One of these things just doesnt belong here!
I dunno if he can articulate his hands enough to use sign language. The man has one motion he uses while speaking. A slight movement of his right hand away from his stomach, which he raises a few inches, then lowers to stress a point. I don't know what that translates to in sigh language.
I'm already sensing they have learnt anything, nxt gen will be the same shite all over again for MS.
Yup nothing will change 😑
Lol, I'm surprise everyone is praising this mediocre game. TBH I think it's below that. This is what happens when you don't have that many great first party exclusives. Denial kicks in
I know right
so...what Phil is saying here is...release a game with barely any content and put it under a subscription for players to try it for cheap while relying on other actually good games also included in the service that gamers actually want to play and take their sweet time releasing the actual contents for the game and hopeful that the game actually become good through the updates and gamers would come back to it playing the game they should have been given at launch? did I get that right?
That's not uncommon across many in the industry nowadays. Its not just a MS thing
Have to give rare and ms props for supporting this, while not a fan of the game, they have gave their players that are plenty of content updates and improvements, they turned the game around from what it launched as and now seems much better. I think if gamepass wasnt a thing the game would probably have died tbf, but because it's on gamepass its allowed the game to expand while drawing from a big pool of players, not every game will get that lucky or the second chance but it deff worked for sea of theives. Still, if they do a sequel they really need to launch with content, a service game is fine but it needs to have content to begin with.
So the fanboys on here are always bragging about how much money MS has, yet you couldn't have finished this game without Gamepass? Give me a break. And please don't sit here and say that the gaming division didn't have the money. You can't have both sides of this argument. All he does is talk. Gamepass Gamepass Gamepass. There is a pattern going on here. Why would you need a service to make a great game? Y'all can fall for this but I'm not. But to each of there own. I'm not telling you how to spend your money but I'm sorry I don't believe a word that comes out of this guys mouth anymore. Honestly, I'm tired of hearing him talk. Where are the games???? Show us. Wait till E3 2020 now....I'm done with this guy....
Nms did just fine.
It could have been any other free2play game!
F2P is best when it's behind a subscription paywall. Welcome to the future I guess.
But it's still nowhere.
Ugh, so sick of him pushing his stupid “game pass.” Speaking of witch, I passed on this game lol.
The truth is that this game wouldn't stand a chance if it was released on the normal $60 model because it was simply not worth it. The below average quality of the game was a perfect fit for game pass. What Phil is saying is true but is not something to brag about. It shows most of their games need a "save me" model as game pass to survive because they wouldn't make it on the normal $60 model.
You know, you just have to look through comments sections on n4g to see what is wrong with gaming. So much fanboyizm. Any positive Xbox article gets trashed for no reason guaranteed. Are you gamers or blind worshipers? What's the point of all the negativity exactly? Let Phil say his piece. Don't act like you know the ins and outs of Sea Of Thieves and how it was put out there. If you can do any better yourself go out there and do it. You make a deal, subscription service or not. See what you can put together, rather than bitching on some forum do something positive for a change.
Well of course, it was free if you had the sub, which in and of itself was, and remains SUPER cheap (or you can just easily game the system and buy the sub cheap anyways). Otherwise, no one would have stuck with it, or likely bought it in the first place. However, I am also glad that the game was saved. It was just such a terrible product in the beginning, but with premise. So it's really nice to see what they have done with it, and I hope they continue to add to it in meaningful ways.
You know it bad when Sea of Thieves is one of the few titles you can talk about. Xbox is actually a great machine, it's just that the leadership behind it is pure jank.
because you couldn't sell it to people for full or half price. i said as soon as i heard about games pass that MS will almost solely be making A and AA games. they want the casual market because people spend more on a smart phone games than say a AAA game like GoW. micro transactions is all MS sees in the service and that can be scary for a traditional gamer like myself. i hope sony stays the AAA single player route, because i love the quality of that experience, and the no micro transactions. REFRESHING to say the least. room for both i guess. too anyone that likes the services like games pass i can respect that. i just hope they demand AAA games as well.
Played it for about a month at launch on the XB1. Started to get boring as my friends stop playing it and good luck finding a crew of randoms who aren't complete morons and/or mutes. Jumped back in about a month ago after they added skeleton ships and that new volcanic area, played for a few hours solo until boredom set it and I haven't touched it since. It's a great game with friends......for the first five odd hours then it's lack of content and polish really shows. Should've been half price on launch or delayed for a year to fill it with meaningful content, an NPC navy (kinda like the police in GTA), a big pirate town island (think Nassau) where players can meet and team up, a bigger map with more detailed and varied islands etc etc.
Sea of thieves is a great game now. Plenty of content now and I especially love the tall tales added in the anniversary update. If reviewed today sea of thieves could easily be a 9. If you haven’t played it in awhile it’s become a really fun game. Plus no one can deny the game is gorgeous
Well that's damage control right there. If it doesn't sell well or is poorly received upon launch then let's draw peoples attention towards something else to make it seem greater than it truly is. As good for value as GP is atm, quality at launch overall will keep going down with the promise it will get better...... but only if people keep paying money.
That's for sure