VGC looks at what got people talking this week, from the big reveals to the no-shows, including Watch Dogs Legion and Sony.
How can sony lose something they did not attend In my opinion Ms lost
In a real adult world you cannot win ANYTHING without participating, just as simple as that. MS did good with promising a new console + many new games. Otherwise I`m excited to see later what Sony`s been up to. :) Oh, I`m just a game-lover, not a console-worshipper. .)
You also can't lose when you aren't participating at a competition, so....... If so, i lost the superbowl, the world cup in soccer, miss universe, tour de france and every other competition on this planet many, many times.
Microsoft doesn't attend CES anymore because they do their own thing. No ones gonna call them a loser for not being there. That would be ludicrous.
War games super computer voice :'What a strange game....where the only way to win...is not to play..'
He didn't ask about why they didn't win he said how could they "lose"
If your not trying to win or be part of the competition by your own choice then you cant lose. You make it sound like Sony was too afraid to put on a confrence for fear of trying and losing.
..You know E3 is about showing off your products and doing marketing at the same time to a wide audience. By not being present in the house at all, it certainly wont do your business any better. Just saying!
@power, your examples would only apply if you were any of those. but you aren't so its just words being spewed to try and make a point. sony is a gaming company and as such are part of the fray when it comes to other gaming companies. if they choose not to participate then they lose by default. If you were a football player and your team did not make the superbowl then guess what.... they obviously lost their shot.
Actually Nintendo and Square Enix won
So if you are a on a soccer team, and you don't show up to the tournament, you will lose right away both in score and with fans. So I can understand their reasoning. It's a solid argument , but you could argue if they had nothing worth showing off, then they financially won.
Absolutely agreed. MS conference was terrible and so boring with no gameplay demos. Such a waste of time. Sony won over MS without even showing up and THAT is what should’ve been in this article. Nobody credible actually believes MS Conference was above a C- at best.
@THC CELL You could also ask "how can sony win something they did not attend" As far as a lot of articles and people on here think Sony won hands down.
@cell, that is your opinion, and you are entitled to it. I can respect that. My opinion is Sony not showing up means they automatically lost. As far as winners it goes Nintendo, Square and MS. the rest all get participation trophies.
Well many claims they won..so yeah there is that
Winner: Square They had a consistently good show, with good reveals, a strong start and a strong ending. MS had Halo which looked awesome. Most of their show wasn't really something you can give them credit for, as a lot of it was just multi-plats from third parties. Nothing wrong with that, but they didn't really bring anything themselves. Ubisoft had a decent show, but didn't really have any impact outside of Legions.
I guess it shouldn't count because they didn't actually attend but I thought the Nintendo Direct was great.
it wasn't a knock out show, but many fans were floored and super happy about the PSO2 release on xbox. They should have made Minecraft dungeons exclusive, but financially Minecraft is huge on all platforms and makes sense to release it everywhere. I would just expect that you'd want to play it on xbox where the servers would be up the longest for online multiplayer.
Nope, the general response to Microsoft press confrences has been a shoulder shrug. While some of their biggest fans have expressed disappointment as Microsoft again has failed to live up to the hype.
Winners:Sony,Borderlands 3 & CyberPunk Losers: Everyone Else
So Sony won something for not being there ?
Well...they apparently haven't lost anything, because people are still fighting the "who won" war like they always do. They just aren't being interesting about it, because they don't really have any games to compare or specifics to say why Sony won.
Oh please Sony might have made the right call by skipping E3 but nobody wins anything by dropping out of the competition.
@Badboyz09 I must have missed Sony's E3 2019 conference, can you provide a link on YouTube so I can watch it, I mean it must have been stellar because people are saying "Sony won E3"
So they won by not even being there. Just wait until next year and this site is gonna be a shit storm when Sony is actually gonna be there. E3 will be risen from the dead, unlike this year when it is “dying”.
the biggest loser was gaming industry itself and gamers because all games are gradually becoming online only services and most of them don't have any story or proper character design and most of them only focus on making gamers addicted to a repetitive but addictive online multiplayer experience instead of an engaging story. video game medium is becoming a billion dollar industry instead of an art form. the interesting and weird part of this change is that gamers encourage and cheer for sp games like cyberpunk more but actually online games like fortnite earn much more profit and that's what making the industry move toward this kind of games... and that's what younger generation of gamers are causing, I miss ps2 days
Really? You miss games that cant be patched? You miss not getting free content for games like Spiderman? You miss having to buy a magazine to get a demo of a game? You miss not having free to play games (surprisingly there are some very good F2P games) The PS2 was a great console, I loved it, but I get the feeling that very few of us would actually want to trade there "state of the art" console for a console back then.
Yes I miss those days I miss being able to buy a product and not have content removed at a later date because a song has had its license expire. GTA SA on PS2 still has all it's music GTA SA on steam large amount of tracks are missing and tons of graphcal and gameplay issues from.pathes that the community was left to fix I miss more thorough testing because issues couldn't just be patched later how many PS2 games and below worked flawlessly on launch
I think E3 lost
I won E3
Nintendo delivered in spades this year:) the winners for sure.
"The Xbox conference not only revealed new Project Scarlett details," so...basically the same details as what Sony announced back in April??? Microsoft had all the opportunities to impress everyone, yet they managed to come out mediocre..
and it was supposed to be biggest e3 ever like every other year :D
@Zodiac909 What were Microsoft supposed to do, announce the full specs, price, release date, bundles and all launch titles? Seriously use your head, the console is 18 months away, things can and do change, if I remember right the 360 originally was supposed to have 256MB of memory, and then EPIC showed Gears running on 256MB and 512MB and advised then to up the memory at the last minute.
Nintendo won. The end.
Winner: Gamers Losers: Journalists who wrote these stuff
Sony maybe want to try copy Nintendo with Nintendo Directs. Working well for Nintendo.
People are missing the point. Just like elections or other events that effect everyone and not just the people in direct contention... there are winners and losers. People say Sony did not lose because they didn't show up for the event and couldn't then lose. Well the gamers that game on Sony lost being they didn't have an opportunity to see anything new come from the Sony camp. The availability to get new info on upcoming games for the year and next along with millions of other gamers simply wasn't available to them in the same fashion as the PC, Nintendo and Xbox gamers had. When you don't even get a participation ribbon for showing up... guess what, you have lost. Simple as that. Everyone else at the event in my eyes won... because they gave something to gamers to look forward to.
This is such a stupid argument. The idiot who wrote the article should have focused in on what he did and didn't like that was presented at e3 at best Sony should have been a small addendum at the very end. Oh and you can definitely lose by showing up and putting on a mediocre to bad presentation devoid of anything new or compelling to show your fans and damaging your brand. See Microsoft
Sound a bit butt hurt derek.
We just lost watching it at a conference. We will gain that oppurtunity back when they do release it. Kind of like 2 weeks ago when we gained the Death Stranding trailer without all the E3 hype surrounding it, and the inevitable comparisons that it would have had to any other game at the conference. It had the limelight to itself, and people talked about it, either critically or postively, and it was all based on it's own merits, and not how it compared to a CGI Halo trailer which in some people's minds was better because they need to fight this console war. I love conferences as much as the next guy, but I haven't really lost anything important by them not showing up. Hell, the biggest thing to come from these conferences is who won, and I certainly haven't lost the oppurtuinity to discuss that since it's still a topic of discussion.
The point of E3 is the media attention gotten for simply appearing at the event. The kind of attention that far surpasses any random announcement that would be an average daily event.Whomever didn't show off their games at the show missed out on said media attention available. simple as that. And the smaller titles that might otherwise go unnoticed get a chance to be seen next to larger titles that people are looking at seeing. This is where Sony truly missed out by not allowing their Indie titles the added avenue for gamers to see. Those Indie titles miss out on the added attention they might not otherwise have a chance to benefit from.
Except Sony is getting attention for not being there. They may not get into a mainstream publication which may attend E3, but social media provides plenty of reach to achieve the same thing more directly. It's not even just in gaming, where social media is becoming a more dominate way to market, and when it comes to E3, it's much harder to control what ends up being on social media. Last year, for Sony, it was all about how the format of their conference sucked, and the flute player, despite them having some damn good game play presentations. For MS this year, it's about how Sony was right to not attend, and that all they showed was CGI. MS may have "won" by showing up and grabbing all the focus, but they lost because they actually didn't, and aren't controlling their message as well as they would like. Sony will get their attention just fine. Next year, for the PS5, they'll probably be there. They just felt it wasn't worth spending the money this year. E3, for whatever it is, is just a marketing cost. It goes into that line item on their PNL's, and they have a budget for such things. Sony at this point just felt that money could be spent better elsewhere, and it doesn't matter what we think they lost or achieved by not showing up. Sony would have weighed those pros and cons in making this decision, just like they do with every other marketing decision. There is nothing that requires they attend E3, or do a conference. There never was. It's just been so common for so long, we expect it to happen. When it doesn't, we misappropriate the meaning, and make it into something more serious than it really is.
Pftt. Next year's E3 will be the pissing match show. The winner this year were the third party accessories and other electronic entertainment devices. This year was pretty tame save a few long lines for the typical AAA mumbo jumbo. This calm before the next gen storm typically is a great time for smaller companies with emerging technologies to come into tech fray. I'm very excited to see what they can offer for current gen consoles as well as hen they transition into the next gen.
The E3 the year before a console launch is always quote weak this was one of the worst in recent memory. Next year though it will be huge
Winners: Microsoft , Nintendo , Square Losers: everyone else
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