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Cliff Bleszinski Just Doesn't Understand Mirror's Edge

In an interview with GamePro, Cliff Bleszinski did his usual Gears of War talk, but one thing stood out towards the end of the interview, his lack of understanding concerning EA/DICE's upcoming FPS/FPR(Runner) Mirror's Edge. Bleszinski went on to say "I think Mirror's Edge will be great, too, but they're showing me too much parkour, I want to see the gunplay. I hope it's not all just running and jumping. As long as there's something chasing me...even Mario had Goombas, you know?". Many might be able to see how Cliffy may be a bit TOO addicted to guns and that you don't necessarily need a TON of em' in order to have a great and, in Mirror's Edge's case, beautiful game.

Le-mo6071d ago

First Metal Gear Solid 4 and now Mirror's Edge? Honestly, Cliffy B wishes he can make games like those.

hay6070d ago

I bet he was disappointed by Mario.

bviperz6070d ago

Mario ate the fire flower and started shooting out flaming snot bullets. Then he was partially satisfied. Only partially.

MURKERR6070d ago (Edited 6070d ago )

love the brutish, sweaty,big gunplay all the way, elegance or being different scares him why you think gears of war2 is hardcore 360 owners most anticipated title? facts speak for themselves

Pain6070d ago

None Violent gore~ish games wtf...

sonarus6070d ago

This guy is fake as they get. So without shooting a game can't be great

ryanjtravis6070d ago

I think Cliff is pretty much a douche too, but your comment doesn't make sense: he mentions specifically that "even Mario had Goombas" (which implies that he enjoys Mario, and the enemies made it a good game).

I think he's just assuming that Mirrors Edge is all about running/jumping and there is no action/enemies involved. Clearly, he hasn't played the demo because that's obviously false.

Mr Fancy Pants6070d ago

he thinks that the game is just parkour and nothing more. that's why he says "I want to see the gunplay" and "As long as there's something chasing me", it's obvious he hasn't played the demo or anything of the game.

the tittle is a little bit misleading and people are simply jumping out to criticize him without finding the logic first just because he made an awesome X360 exclusive.

don't be fanboys! or if you're going to be one then go to the open zone, as the name suggest, is open!

now bring all the disagrees!

Drano6070d ago

Cliff Bleszinski should keep his mouth shut once in a while. He could use that extra-time to put more than one-liners in Gears of War's scenario.

Jump Beyond.

Elimin86070d ago (Edited 6070d ago )

Just wish he would shut the f@ck up. I know these are last gen, but ICO and shadow o.t.c were great games with no GUNS... "JMO"

Danja6070d ago

So because this game is actually original and it focuses more on platforming with little gunplay it sucks for Cliffy , he is so arrogant it aint even funny...

I played the ME demo and it was quite good...

gaffyh6070d ago

@CliffyB - STFU...please....

I bet he doesn't understand LBP either, retard. He's probably like:

"What so you go through this game without guns!?!? wtf, I don't understand it!!!! NEED MORE GUNS AND GUYS AS WIDE AS BUSES"

FrankenLife6070d ago

I'll admit the game looks very beautiful. Ultimately I will hold off judgement until I can play the game, but I feel like the only person who isn't impressed by the concept of the game. I have a hard time getting past the description, "it is like a fps, except without the guns". This game may very well turn out to be amazing, but I am not expecting it to be. I'll be sure to give it a rent though.

I_LOVE_MYSELF6070d ago

well he doesnt have to worry about lbps lack of guns... if he wants guns in the game he can make one

FCC6070d ago

This is one of the hugest spins on a news title ever. It's not that he doesn't understand it, it's just that it's not his particular cup of tea. He's already known to like shooting games, let him make games about that and let him think what he wants.

You can't penalize him as a bad developer for doing he does best and being interested into things he likes making/playing: shooting games. He's great at making shooting games and coming up with ideas for it, he's pretty ambitious as far as I know, he might not be the most humble developer but he's definitely not a bad one.

You guys always bad mouth games like Gears of War 2 and Halo 3 being "manly man, bald space marines alien generic shooters" or something to that extent, whether you guys know it or not, you are indirectly insulting your own favorite games and it shows your fanboyism.

What's Resistance 2? A shooter set in alternate historical America after WWII.
Who's the Chimera? An alien race trying to kill all humans
Who do you play as? Nathan Hale, a soldier

What's Killzone 2? A shooter set on the planet of Helghan.
Who's the Helghast? Essentially an alien race of soldiers.
Who do you play as? Cpt. Jan Templar, a soldier.

What's Halo 3? A shooter set all over the universe and Earth.
Who's the Covenant? An alien race that once helped the Brutes fight you but now are allied to help you defeat the Brutes and the Truth.
Who do you play as? Master Chief, a soldier but IN A SUIT!!!

What's Gears of War 2? A shooter set on the planet of Sera.
Who's the Locust? An alien race that was fed up with humans slowly destroy their home planet of Sera by drilling for Imulsion.
Who do you play as? Marcus Fenix, a soldier.

Pretty much, they're all the same with the exception of Master Chief wearing a super awesome suit that rivals Samus. They're all great games but with the same cliched storylines, and somewhat same gameplay.

f7897906070d ago

I dont see what's so great about this game just like some people didnt see what's so great about LBP. I'm currently addicted to LBP and really dont care whatsoever about Mirror's edge.

loki_ns6070d ago

To go out on a limb here...

As much as I think CB can be a douche, and he should keep it shut about other developers (totally unprofessional) I'm gonna have to agree with him on this one...

*ducks*

tplarkin76070d ago (Edited 6070d ago )

I agree loki_ns.

If there are no guns, then you are just running the whole time. The videos look like Half-Life 2 without guns. It's not really a game.

Milky Joe6070d ago

Okay, the guy has an opinion, that's fine. I have opinions to and I quite like that fact so I'm not going to make any kind of attempt to disallow his. What I am not happy about is how this guy's opinion is worthy of a whole news article. Every other day kotaku.com has some comment from this prat on their site and I'm fed up of seeing it. He reckons he's some kind of celebrity and people shouldn't be encouraging him like this. I'm not necessarily blaming him (he doesn't control what people write about), but something tells me he quite enojys all of this attention. Keeping your mouth shut means that when you do say something, people pay more attention. Maybe he should take that on as a personal motto. Might help him.

BWS19826070d ago

Mirror's Edge needs to be bigger, badder and more badass.

(sarcasm, the demo is beyond sweet)

CrazyOrange6070d ago

MGS4 one of best game ever made.
but mirrors edge cant be compared to gears if you played both of them.
for me i didnt like mirrors edge at all. stupid enemies , stupid story.

osamaq6070d ago (Edited 6070d ago )

I played the demo an its was great but.. I totally Agree with you Bleszinski after a 20 min playing running and jumping you will ask your self what next?!!! , even prince of Persia(which is based on jumping) have action ,tomb raider , Assasins creed ...etc

CrAppleton6070d ago

I know he's making great games as well.. but I think he's being overly criticle of others.. not everyone wants to be GOW. That said.. I'm happy that GOW is around, its fresh and fun.. but I still like other types of games.. Mario doesn't need to start carrying a freekin chainsaw or anything

I_am_rushin6070d ago

Not everything has to have a point. It can just be fun.

godofthunder106069d ago (Edited 6069d ago )

Le-mo said that cliff wish he could make games like mgs4 and mirrors.I don't know where he has been living,or maybe he's just a ps3 fanboy that act childish and can never admit positive news about the 360 and negative news about the ps3 because he's bias.The fact is that cliff made gow and it's a hell of a lot better then mirrors and just as good as mgs4.I played the demo of mirror's edge,so has my brothers,son,friends,and cousin and out of the 11 of us only 1 like the demo.

To say that mgs4 is better the gow is understandable but not fact.It's his oppoinion and that's it and i respect it.I think that gow is a lot better the mgs4.I think that mgs4 has a stupid story line and to much cut scenes.This is my opponion and not facts.To say that mirror's edge is better then gow is crazy and bias.I know that every one has their own opponion and i respect it like i said before.When ps3 fans claim that mirror's edge is better then gow is just bias and saying it because gow is on the 360 and it's childish. Le-mo would say that gow is better then mgs4 if mgs4 was on the 360 and gow was on the ps3 and this is fact.

Fanboys from both sides act childish and they are both bias.The ps3 fanboys just want admit that sony does the same thing as microsoft when it comes to selling their products.hell not long ago sony was caught makeing up a game critic and have him give 4 star rateings to all their movies.A ps3 fanboy was crying about a commercial that microsoft had about the 360 saying they were missleading the customers and act like sony never does anything like it.

The fact is that sony made up a movie critic to give all their movies a 4 start rateing and they got caught doing it and it's a fact.Ps3 fanboys never bring that up.When microsoft has a commercial showing a game but not showing a 360 with a hard drive.Instead they wrote on the bottom of the commercials that a hard drive is needed.This is the same thing as cars and every other company does in their commercials.Ps3 fanboys jumped on the net and starting to write articles about how microsoft is missleading the people.The same people want admitt that sony right out lied about how good some of their movies were with their made up a movie critic to give all their movies a 4 start rateing.This is worse then missleading the people like ps3 fanboys are sayiong microsoft is doing.The fact is that sony lied to the movie fans with their made up critic.this is fact.people need to check up on it before they call me a lier.The people that claim it's a lie never checked up on it.The same people would agree with me if i said microsoft done it and it's pittifull to see people act like kids.

Ps3 fanboys are saying that cliff is bias for his game and should keep his mouth shut about other games.The same ps3 fanboy agree with the creator of mgs4 when he trashed the 360 and said that the ps3 is a lot better then the 360 and claimed that mgs4 is the best game before it was even released.I don't see any difference in the two creator.Cliff brag about how great his game is and when the creator of mgs4 said that it was the greatest game even before it was released and trash the 360 on top of that.This prove that ps3 fanboy has a double standard and so does 360 fanboys.The creator of mgs4 claim that it wouldn't work on the 360 because it isn't powerfull enough and this was proven false.The company that relesed mgs4 said that it could be put on the 360.The only problem is that it has a lot of cut scenes.The fact is that when a game has cut scenes that is as long as the game is just stupid and the game could have done without 25% of them..He also claimed that mgs4 is a new kind of game and it's just the same old shooter that has a movie in it instead of just a few cut scenes.

The point i'm trying to make is that all fanboys all bias and it's a fact.The same ps3 fanboy that claim that mgs4 is better the gow would say the opposite if gow was on the ps3 and mgs4 was on the 360 and vice versa with 360 fanboys.Fanboys also act like kids with news.ps3 fans would say that every negative article about the 360 is true and positive news about it is false and every positive news about the ps3 is true and every negative news about it is false and 360 fanboys act the same way and it needs to stop.

Fans from both system should jusy enjoy the system and game they have.They shouldn't even worry about the other one because it doesn't concern them.I admitt that i have a 360 and want trade it for a ps3 for anything.I like the 360 a lot more then the ps3 and i think that it is also better.This is just my opponion.I know they have people that like the ps3 more and i'm happy for them and i hope they enjoy it because it's a good system to.

To tell people that has the opposite system that they are stupid,dum ,crazy or any other name just because they have the opposite one is childish.The most ridiculious article that i've every read was from a ps3 fanboy.he claimed that the only reason that people bought a 360 was because they couldn't afford the ps3 because they were to poor.This is just A stupid thing to say.The fact is that a lot of people buy the 360 pro instead of the ps3 and they are about the same price.Fanboys from both sided need to act their age.Just because they claim their system is better doesn't mean that it's true.

TheDude2dot06069d ago

He obviously doesn't understand M.E. if he thinks there are no enemies.

BWS19826069d ago

a few people above me are saying mirror's edge had a stupid story? That's funny, I thought the DEMO relayed a DEMONSTRATION of the game, not the full story. People jumping to conclusions around here, where the hell is your logic?

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Pennywise6071d ago

I'll say it first:

This guy reminds me of a nerd who landed a good job and now tries his hardest to act cool. I am not impressed.

After seeing how "innovative" he is with his games, I do not find it hard to believe he understands anything.

A one trick pony usually only understands one trick.

badz1496070d ago (Edited 6070d ago )

praise DICE or tell how Mirror's Edge is a different approach of FPS genre eventhough if he doesn't really get it. at least DICE produced a great and fun-to-play FPS, Battlesfield Bad Company and then came with a slightly different approach with Mirror's Edge! In the othe hand, Epic only produced shooters and that's the only thing where they excel! they even fail to adapt a good story for their games! now I know why...because all he thinks about is about GUNS! Damn this CliffB guy should really learn how to appreciate/respect other people's work!

Megaton6070d ago (Edited 6070d ago )

I think they refer to him as Douche Huge now, or was it Dude Huge...?

That's kinda funny that he doesn't understand it and says there's too much non-gunplay. Kinda wedged himself right into the stereotype of "MOAR GUNS OR GTFO".

HULK... not SMASH?

theEnemy6070d ago

Cliff Blezinski =/= Cliff Bleszinski

:)

0verdrive6070d ago

nice one

i agree with what most everyone is saying, its pretty pathetic that he cant accept anything other than a shooter. "what?! no guns?! how can that possibly work in a video game?!" typical short attention spanned adrenaline junkie modern day video gamer. :yawn: gtfo cliffy.

ProperFunked6070d ago

He himself is a "douche Nozzle" (its in one of his many interviews on GT)

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Fishy Fingers6071d ago

I thought the point of Mirrors Edge is it offered an escape from the usual "shoot-um ups".

For a designer he seems to have quite a narrow view.

Pennywise6070d ago

I think any gamer on this site will agree with that. I get in trouble for using the DB name, so I wont call him that today... but we all know what the deal is.

kindi_boy6070d ago (Edited 6070d ago )

after playing the demo i pre ordered it and can't wait for it to leak out to play it ASAP

Lucreto6071d ago

Its not really a FPS she takes the gun and you only take a few shots and then she will disgard it.

NJShadow6071d ago

Well, that's the conflict with Mirror's Edge. It's really hard to classify it. Crap, I wish could just classify it as GORGEOUS. =)

hay6070d ago

Ah, LBP classification patterns. Bubbles mate.
I did enjoy Mirrors Edge demo, must buy for me.

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The Real Enemy of Gaming Isn’t DEI. It’s the CEO

From Horse Armor to Mass Layoffs: The Price of Greed in Gaming. Inside the decades-long war on game workers and the players who defend them.

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jambola10d ago

maybe a real enemy is people who use terms like "the real enemy"
there can be more than 1 bad thing, t's not like a kids show with 1 big bad

senorfartcushion8d ago

This is very much a “dummy who volunteers themselves to the middle” comment.

The real enemy is a common phrase, people use it all the time.

Calm down.

jambola8d ago

i'm very calm
you seem very upset however

Notellin7d ago

You don't seem calm at all. Don't take this so seriously, you seem desperate responding to others defending your opinion that lacks any value or critical thought.

jambola7d ago

stop projecting
i'm not desperately dong anything, i'm tapping at keys on my keyboard bud

PapaBop7d ago

It's not like kids show with one bad guy? I present to you.. Bobby Kotick

ABizzel17d ago (Edited 7d ago )

DEI was never the problem and it was an ignorant take to begin with.

DEI is why games like Kena Bridge of Spirits, South of Midnight, and Ghost of Tsushima exist.

DEI is why we have a huge resurgence in Japanese, Chineses, and Korean developers producing games like Stellar Blade, Black Myth, and why Nintendo & Sony exist.

DEI is why more and more games have HUGE accessibility options with both Sony and MS fully behind this.

DEI was never a bad thing, the entire purpose of DEI is representation of all people, genders, disabilities, etc…

The problem was people used DEI as a default derogatory term to describe what they believed was forced representation, which allowed colorist, racist, sexist, misogynist, homophobic, and xenophobic fools to run away with the negative DEI narrative.

jambola7d ago

you don't get to decide other people's motivations
sorry to break it to you

ABizzel16d ago (Edited 6d ago )

To each their own, however, nothing you said invalidates why some people take offense to DEI incorrectly.

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Sciurus_vulgaris10d ago

Executives seem to often have an obsession with perpetual revenue growth. There is always a finite amount of consumers for a product regardless of growth. Additionally, over investment is another serious issue in gaming.

Killer2020UK8d ago

The fact that they also rarely have any real expertise in game development compounds things. They'll look at what's been successful elsewhere, lack the knowledge to properly understand why they have been successful and then force a team to 'reproduce' their badly interpreted idea of that success.

We see it so often with sequels to games that were successful too. The team are left well alone, they have a break through hit and all of sudden the money men descend on the IP and completely railroad the dev team's ideas. Usually winds up being 'make the same game but MORE'

LoveSpuds7d ago

This is true throughout all of the corporate and public sector organisations to be honest. CEO's generally move amongst the corporate world without any need to have experience of a particular industry, they simply need to rely on their senior leadership credentials. A CEO of a retail giant will just as easily transition to a CEO role in the energy sector for example.

Not defending CEOs here to be clear, I think it's a huge part of the reason the western world is so fucked up. CEOs don't need to care about the sector they work in, in fact it's better if they don't care if they want to screw everyone to make profits.

GhostScholar8d ago

Companies don’t hire executives to break even. If the goal is breaking even then why start the company in the first place.

Soy8d ago

That's understood; it's getting record profits and expecting to always beat those record profits, and seeing anything less as a total failure. Then they lay people off and raise prices to reach those record profit levels again, just to sate shareholders. It's setting expectations way too high just to spike share prices, then inevitably falling short. It's feeling entitled to being more successful than everyone else. It's the CEOs doing all this to boost their own bonuses.

ABizzel17d ago

Growth benefits the company’s profits and therefore the company’s stock if publicly traded, which pleases the shareholders making them more and more rich, which is why Growth is always at the forefront of the vast majority of any publicly traded company.

More growth = More Money and the people at the top want all the money they can get. I can’t really blame them anyone would love to see their profits go from tens of thousands to hundreds of thousands, to multi-millions it’s almost like a gambling addiction.

But it also goes to show someone how morals can go out the window for a lot of these people, and how amazing some CEOs are when they catch this early and provide a balance solution that takes complete care of their employees across the board while keeping the business sustainable IE: Insomniac Games ALWAYS on the best places to work list. The rest of the industry could learn.

jambola10d ago

honestly, the "real" enemy of gaming, is ourselves
if nobody bought horse armor, shitty dlc would have died almost overnight
if we stood firm and nobody bought games from companies that were bad with layoffs, it would be solved
we're the idiots supporting awful business practices, we are the ones enouraging it

TiredGamer8d ago

I think the reality that we don't want to convince ourselves of is that without the rise of "horse armor" and DLC, game budgets would have essentially stagnated (smaller teams/smaller games), or game prices would have risen much more dramatically than they have. There was an incessant drive for bigger worlds, infinite detail, and hundreds of hours of "gameplay" over the last two decades, that while perhaps a natural evolution of things, needed a suitable funding stream to accomplish.

HyperMoused8d ago

What...CEOs make tens of millions and that doesnt include SLT etc etc...we now have multiple editions of games, in game currency, MT's, battle passes.....and what do we get..worse game than what was coming out 20 years ago....dont drink the cool aid, its this nickel and dime crap that is absolutely leading us to gaming destruction.

senorfartcushion8d ago

This is the worst possible answer to this conundrum. Blaming the masses is blaming the only people who are constantly “told” to buy.

Consumers are the only ones not to blame here. People make their own choices all the time. Disney movies are bombing and DEInis being blamed. Has that been enough to put Disney out of business? No and it never will.

Christopher8d ago

Disagree. Businesses are able to do what they do because people are bad consumers and don't think critically about purchases. Disney got away with doing shit stuff for years and it's just the last year where people got tired of it. It's not like it didn't work for 5 years or so for Disney to do the things they've done. They'll just move onto another way to get people to see movies and it will be just as bad but more profitable until people wake up and realize it.

TiredGamer8d ago

Consumerism drives business behavior. It's not so much "blaming" as it is observing behavior. The point I'm making is that the direction that games have gone are driven by the spending. Consumers are spending on DLC and they are driving the expectation of more glitz and padded out (lengthier) games. If they continue to pay, they will continue to drive that direction until a threshold is reached that forces a change in behavior.

senorfartcushion8d ago

Corporate advertising is the most powerful force on the planet.

This is N4G for god sake, every day there are arguments between people who are Team Xbox and Team PlayStation because they’ve been convinced that having an identity built on paying money to Sony and Microsoft matters more than having one as individual gamers who can play whatever they want.

And THEN we get to the corporate advertising part: to play whatever you want is to sink MORE into the advertising pits, making it so that you can more than one specific product.

jambola8d ago

ah you're right
they were told to buy it, it's clearly impossible to avoid that
if enough people stopped supporting, it would stop
disney not stopping would only be because enough people didn't stop

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victorMaje8d ago

Agreed. I’ve been saying for years, announce you won’t be buying the upcoming game because of the practices of the previous game, then you only have to stick to your guns once, see how quickly things change for the better.

We have to unite in what we shouldn’t purchase.

jambola8d ago

just imagine a world, fifa came out worse, nobody buys the next one until they see proof it's better and stick to it
or games being forced online for single player and nobody buys it
things would change so fast

HyperMoused8d ago

Just like scooby doo, you have shown us the real monsters are us

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Inverno8d ago

Greed and greedy people have and always will be the main issue for everything wrong in the world. Everything is a product to be exploited for monetary gain. Even when there are things that could help progress us along for the sake of making our lives easier that thing must be exploited for monetary gains. Anything that tells you otherwise is propaganda to make you complicit.

coolfool8d ago

I've never thought "DEI" (although the way most people use it doesn't match it's real definition) is the problem with games. Good games have continued to be good when they have a diverse cast, and likewise, bad games have continued to be bad. There isn't a credible example I've seen where a diverse cast has been the direct cause of a game being bad.

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