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Is Nintendo Really Helping the Gaming Industry?

From a business perspective, Nintendo is a giant. It's a smart giant. It's smart, money making giant. Of course the hierarchy of Nintendo is rolling in the dinero but is Nintendo really helping out the cause for advancement of video game technology and way of playing.

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President Obama4033d ago

Same with Sony,same with Microsoft.It just so happens Nintendo are the ones most disconnected from the hardcore gamers

INehalemEXI4033d ago (Edited 4033d ago )

Nintendo has always been mainly for the young and conservative gamers and they brought the perfect starter console 4 the next generation of gamers. They are bringing the VR machine closer to reality.

Grats 2 Obama !

Poirot94032d ago

It seems like Tarasque was a McCain supporter. Heh heh............
Congrats to Obama! WOooo!

The gaming GOD4033d ago

In terms of innovation, yeah they might be helping. The fact that they are making games with peripheral style controls bring about an age of flexibility and option within the gaming world

But in the overall technological sense, they are doing REAL damage. The fact that they are making money going backward in technology will make developers lazy and not care as much. Which can result in less hardcore games in favor of more "easy to make, get money quick" styled games.

Product4033d ago

i dont know about that,although people who own a ps3/360 will say that, i dont see them as going backward with tech...i feel as though the hd consoles were a rushed product and there is evidence of that through how much it costs devs by making a game.Honestly hd consoles are not offering anything new to gaming that hasnt been around already.yea the ps3 and xbox do have great looking games but thats where it stops.Although some people will argue that the online portion of games adds something new,and it does,the fact remains this was a feature of pc gaming years before this gen;so no real innovation.
its sad that people say the wii is going backwards when its more powerful then all the last gen consoles....how is that going backwards?
I think Nintendo is helping the industry by providing a new way to play games.People might say alot of the games are shovelware but some games that are so creative really shine and dont need to be realistic shooters to hold its own.I find it funny how games like World of Goo and De Blob seem kiddy but its really just a really creative idea.......there is no way to make those type of games realistic to the point where they rival Gears of War or Killzone but people will rate those games and compare them to ps3/360 games just to say how kiddy and cartoony they are and bash them.
I feel as though the wii has made creative games a more accessible genre not just for people of all ages but for devs to.You think a dev who has worked 10 years making fps doesnt want to make a creative game that doesnt take 3 years to make?which in turn makes it very hard to take such big risks on the hd consoles.
I think the wii is just another step in gaming is all.People can complain all day about the bad but when it comes down to it we need creative simple games mixed in with the realistic or consoles will have the same death the pc gaming world had years back.

ChickeyCantor4033d ago (Edited 4033d ago )

" The fact that they are making money going backward in technology will make developers lazy and not care as much"

I think this is nonsense, as a Developer you have goals too.
You make software for a specific audience.

Even if the Wii isn't a PS3, there are many Developers who are investing more money in a Wii-game than other developers who make waggle games.

It's got nothing to do with "lazy" rather who your target audience is and how much your budget allows you to develop these games.
Of course there are developers who just go for easy made money, but again...it's the audience that is allowing them to do it.

There is no need for a developer to get lazy because Wii has less powerful specs. I mean the DS is still underpowered compared to the PSP, yet Developers make some great games on it...

So how do developers become "lazy"? I don't get you.
Also Wii being like this is actually good, lower costs for development, and you don't need to sell the same amount of Wii games as you have to sell Ps3 games to return a profit. And if this can keep the industry healthy you should appreciate it.

Expect Nintendo's next Nintendo to be "affordable" too.
If the price has come down enough for each hardware part, Nintendo might make a Nintendo with the same power of the PS3(and some) and Sony and MS will go for the high priced hardware again.

But this won't affect the "laziness" or "care" with developers.
It's what they want and for who they want to make it(as long their budget allow it)

edit: you do realize the development teams for PS3 and 360 games have all become Bigger because it needs more manwork, not because they suddenly feel they shouldn't be lazy.

Bathyj4033d ago

As someone who grew up on Nintendo I can see why they are like they are because one more failure they might have had to do a Sega, but make no mistake, they are FKN this industry with a big hairy unlubed stick.

Unless you're a non gamer,in which case they're great.

ChickeyCantor4033d ago

And yet you haven't provided one argument that makes your statement true...

Yeah, now work on that.

karlostomy4033d ago (Edited 4033d ago )

The Wii is a triumph of marketing - nothing else.
It has gone backward in terms of technology.

My gravest concern is that Sony and Nintendo will see this and gimp their next gen consoles in order to emulate the wii business model and make easier profits.

After all, why spend billions on cutting edge tech (ps3, 360) when you can just cobble old technology together and market cutesy games at moms, kids and retirees?

In terms of profits... much easier.
In terms of gaming... phoooey!

Nintendo will never see a cent from me.

Captain_Sony4033d ago

How can you haters claim that Nintendo is going backwards when all they did was release a console that isnt as powerful as the other current gen systems but is more powerful than all previous gen consoles? Thats what I do not get. You say it is a step back but the console that controlled last gen in every way was a 233mhz machine. Wii is 5 times more powerful than that. The only reason I can think of for people to make those claims is ignorance.

karlostomy4032d ago (Edited 4032d ago )

The Wii is about as powerful as the original xbox!
These links illustrate my point nicely.

http://intendo.wordpress.co...
http://www.gameguru.in/feat...
http://agrotime-blog.com/20...
http://forum.teamxbox.com/s...

The Wii is seven year old hardware! Being sold at premium prices!
There is not other way to spin it.
It's all Marketing and gimmick!

Makes me sick to my stomach...
Hopefully MS and Sony don't follow suit.

Product4032d ago

he was talkin about the ps2 not xbox lol.

karlostomy4032d ago

This is what he said with regard to the wii:

"all they did was release a console that isnt as powerful as the other current gen systems but is more powerful than all previous gen consoles"

no matter. I corrected him.

Mahr4032d ago

Um, except you "corrected" him with an Xbox message board discussion, a single developer comment, and a link that says things like "Well, the verdict is that the Wii has more processing speed than the original Xbox and can allocate more memory with its 24 Mib internal programmable memory whereas the original Xbox had only 64 Mib memory to play around with."

Nice job?

karlostomy4032d ago (Edited 4032d ago )

I said:
"The Wii is about as powerful as the original xbox! "

If you want to get down and dirty, then yes, the Wii powerpc CPU *is slightly* more powerful than the xbox processor, but IRONICALLY the Wii GPU is NOT capable of some of the nicer things the xbox GPU is capable of.

That's in the links too.

I'll say it again:
"The Wii is about as powerful as the original xbox! "

Please don't take it personally. I have played the Wii and it's just a toy.

The Wii is just simply an overpriced, outdated piece of hardware that is, at best, about on par with the original xbox1, except for clever marketing and a waggle controller. It may be more powerful than the ps2, but it certainly is no better than the xbox1 in real terms.

I think there is plenty of agreement in the real gaming community in this regard.

Mahr4032d ago (Edited 4032d ago )

"I said:
"The Wii is about as powerful as the original xbox! "

Uh, I am and was aware of what you said in that post. If you'd actually paid attention you'd have seen I was referring to when you said you "corrected" Captain Sony and said he was, uh 'lying'? His statement in question was that the Wii is more powerful than original Xbox. He did not specify how much or in what respect.

The fact that you posted a link that says the Wii has faster processing speed and more memory supports his argument because that's kind of the exact *definition* of technical power.

I'm not saying that Wii games have better graphics than Xbox or that the Wii is substantially more powerful than the original Xbox or that Wii games even look better, as I honestly can't bring myself to care about any of that. I'm saying that it's silly for you to go around calling people liars over this, especially since from a technical standpoint, the statement is correct.

"IRONICALLY the Wii GPU is NOT capable of some of the nicer things the xbox GPU is capable of."

Yes, which are issues of features, not power. The Xbox may have more features, better features even, but that's not the same thing as "being more powerful".

"I'll say it again:
"The Wii is about as powerful as the original xbox! "

Please don't take it personally. I have played the Wii and it's just a toy."

Um, do you think I'm arguing against that? Uh, no.

"The Wii is just simply an overpriced, outdated piece of hardware that is, at best, about on par with the original xbox1, except for clever marketing and a waggle controller. It may be more powerful than the ps2, but it certainly is no better than the xbox1 in real terms."

The Xbox 1 may be the superior graphical system in "real" terms of abilities and the like, but that's a different argument from how "powerful" a system is. If you can't accept that, well, then you can't accept language itself.

ChickeyCantor4032d ago (Edited 4032d ago )

Actually, HVS proved the fact that with the Wii, you can do many things just not out of the box.
They had to make lots of shaders themselves. Shader other developers wouldn't consider because making your own without the GPU providing it out of the box needs complex programming.

Saying Wii can't do what the Xbox can, might be a stretch, or not.
But HVS showed that even with what you already have, you can go beyond.

Hell i never thought that water refraction was even possible on the Wii.
I hope that they keep updating their quantum3 engine for the Wii.

Product4031d ago

captain said "console that controlled last gen" meaning the ps2.

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