PS5 GPU Will Be Based on a New RDNA AMD Architecture Replacing GCN

AMD has announced their next-generation of GPUs at an event during Computex. This also includes the hardware for the PS5 that will be powered by AMD.

[_SilverHawk_]

The ps5 will have a powerful hardware and I cant wait to buy it on release day

[Jin_Sakai]

The GPU gains in Navi are 1.25x compared to Vega. So 10TF Navi GPU would equal 12.5TF Vega.

3rd gen Ryzen CPUs are a massive increase over Jaguar. The jump in performance will be incredible over what we have today.

New RDNA architecture! Goodbye GCN.

Custom SSD will eliminate long loads and help with LOD streaming. This will be very good for open world and fast paced games.

I think we can safely say that next gen is going to be amazing. Can’t wait!

[DarXyde]

Sure hope so.

Honestly, I suspect this generation coming will mark the end of traditional gaming.

[The 10th Rider]

IDK, with the rumored Navi pricing I could see a 10TF console. A lot of that would be eaten up in the push for 4K and the jump seems less impressive since we've had the mid-gen refreshes.

That CPU jump is going to be insane though. Couple that with the custom storage set-up for lightning quick load-times and a nice jump in RAM and next gen should be mighty impressive.

[bmf7364]

GCN over time has been a curse on AMD. While the 7000 and 200 series beat out Nvidia in price to performance, Nvidias marketing was simply too much. After that, power efficiency dramatically increased for Nvidia while GCN was horribly inefficient by comparison.

[The 10th Rider]

I'd be curious to see why people think we'll be getting a 10+ TF GPU. The GPU that AMD claims to be 10% better than the 8 TF 2070 is rumored to be $500. If that the case I just don't see how next gen consoles could have over 10 TF unless they launch a premium model right out the gate for $600. More realistically we should get 8-10 TF.

[The 10th Rider]

@tekiz,

Ummm, a spokesperson for Sapphire, who makes GPUs, let it slip.

https://www.wccftech.com/am...

They were right in the money with performance and the dates, so there's a good chance the price is real too. The original article about it got taken down but there's secondhand articles reporting in the information. It's also not a tumor or a leak with anonymous sources. It's information leaked by a spokesperson for a company that makes the GPU.

[cd1]

@10th

Sapphire dont make GPUs, they make graphics cards - the GPUs are fabbed by TSMC, GF etc

[Saigon]

@DarXyde,

They have been saying that for the last 2 generations and I am still waiting for this 'end of traditional gaming'. Grant it, traditional gaming has changed, but what the media is referring to is something completely different. They want us to go into the aspects of Mobile Gaming; I honestly do not want that. I am happy with how things are now. I know it will change but my hope is that we keep some aspects of traditional gaming like buying the software in digital or physical.

OT...this was a good read and I can't wait to hear more in the next few weeks. I wonder how custom the PS5 architecture is thouugh and I wonder what customization MS has done to the next Xbox.

[crazyCoconuts]

I think VR has a bigger chance of ending traditional gaming (long term) than mobile devices. Gotta have BIG screens :-)
Regarding MS and customization, I'm just guessing, but I still feel they may stagger a year after PS with their powerhouse console, so they might not have focused on the AMD customizations yet. That way they can guarantee power superiority and continue the "most powerful console" marketing even a year before it's released. I think the X coming out a year later than the pro + the focus on X cloud this year and next is kinda playing into that...

[DarXyde]

I'm not concerned with what others have said in the past. I have not made that statement in the past, but I think it is fair to say now. There is increasing cost and a very clear and aggressive push for streaming and online services now that is difficult to ignore.

I have not felt that pressure before, but now it really seems like Gen 9 will be the last traditional consoles. If we don't go full streaming yet, expect a lot of games to be strictly digital going forward.

[gravedigger]

Yep, next-gen gonna be sweet.

[starchild]

It does sound great. I'm liking the choices they're making. I was planning to get one either way, but the hardware and backwards compatibility are adding up to an exciting console.

[MasterCornholio]

Ooo that's nice. Some rumors were saying that it would use GCN but it's nice to see that it's new tech.

[Asuka]

AMD is finally retiring GCN. That is great news in itself. Though RDNA has yet to be tested in real world It is nice to know it's new architecture.

[UltraNova]

Surely they didn't replace the old gen architecture with a worse one right?

[RabbitFly]

Well that does actually happen all the time, but AMD probably deserves the benefit of the doubt.

[nucky64]

maybe not "tested in real world" - but, i imagine whatever sony uses will have gone under a lot of scrutiny before going into ps5 - they're on top but still can't afford a major misstep.

[StormLegend]

This sounds amazingly good! I also hope they allow us to download update files on games before they release, that would benefit day 1 physical game buyers a lot. And lastly having every graphical option a PC does would be sweet.

[KwietStorm_BLM]

What the hell with the disagrees?

[Rimeskeem]

Trolls, be on the look out

[agnosticgamer]

PC's are generally always ahead of consoles... So Consoles will pretty much never have all graphical options a PC has. Right at the launch Consoles are usually on par with gaming computers, but that doesn't last for long there are always better graphics cards being released PC gamers can upgrade with that Console gamers cannot.

Disagree's are probably keeping reality in-line with dreams.

[MajorLazer]

PC games are also made for a broad range of setups, some very powerful, some mediocre. Whereas consoles already know what hardware is going to be used so performance is maximised. GoW, tLoU 2, Spiderman were made for a console that's 1.84TF yet they look absolutely stunning

[KwietStorm_BLM]

But what does being ahead of consoles have to do with giving console gamers a broader list of settings? How does a PC stop it from being offered on a game console? They already got the ball rolling with PS4 Pro and Xbox One X allowing performance options. Why would deeper settings be a "dream" on PS5?

[Kornholic]

I'm a physical buyer and 99% of the game day one patches take less than 30 min to download with my internet connection.

[MajorLazer]

Not everyone is as lucky. I have a 352Mb connection, soon to be 500 but some people don't even have fibre optic which can be a pain.

[DaMist]

5mbps here, makes me sick to my stomach just typing this lol

[mkis007]

Going to be a much bigger jump than ps3 to ps4. It might even get to close to ps2 to ps3.

[PhantomS42]

I'd honestly be shocked if we see a jump like that again, I'd love it, but I'd be shocked.

[sprinterboy]

Going from a ps4 or xbox one launch model to proper 4k HDR with the specs that we know about will seem like a huge jump imo.
Edit: if your already 4k gaming then the jump will be small.

[mkis007]

The CPU and GPU are par for the course, its the balance of that and the SSD standard that will lead to the jump.Assets will be able to load in and out of memory faster than ever before. This will affect GPU and CPU tasks alike. LOD transitions, Shadow Cascades, area transitions, and things that devs haven't even begun to implement yet, will all make that jump very real.

Imagine God of War, but instead of the world tree loop sequence to load the new area, you click on the doorway and you see the full area you selected to fast travel to after a second of white light in the doorway ( the area behind you is already gone the moment you click on it)

We are looking at a "what will be possible now" situation. Things devs havent had the ability to even attempt to add to their games.

[DeadlyFire]

Will be a bigger jump than that.

[Kados]

A jump equal to what we got going from the PS2 to PS3 would require the PS5 to be ~39.6TF. Unless you want a $50,000 console that is the size of a refrigerator, not going to happen.

[Kados]

@tree:

Yes.

[mkis007]

Kados

Tflops are not the only jump possible. Tflops do not dictate anything but the gpu power.

[Kados]

@mkis007:

Yes, i understand that. Flops are still the most meaningful measurment of overall capabilities though. You will not see a substantial gain from the CPU, above what is provided by the GPU. Even if consoles used high end desktop grade chips, the most powerful standalone CPU on the market atm is around 600-700 Gflops. The PS4s CPU is around 90 Gflops.

[OMGitzThatGuy]

Hardware wise yes, but visually besides 1st party, graphics prob won't see a big jump. There is only so much talent in game development and most will use the new power as overhead and stick to what they are doing now.

[sprinterboy]

If you haven't played anything in 4k yet this gen then the jump from base model will be huge, but if you've been gaming on the pro with 4k then it will be small.

[LightofDarkness]

Honestly, if the hardware allows for it, ray-tracing is a pretty massive jump. It's subtle at first, but the jump in realism shouldn't be understated. All of a sudden you'll notice that your brain thinks it's looking at real images. Once you realise that you can suspend your disbelief for long periods, and you won't want to go back. It's a generational leap.

And the best part about that is that it significantly reduces the number of man hours spent lighting each scene and tweaking shaders to approximate reality, when you have a mostly accurate light simulation running in real-time.

[nitus10]

@sprinterboy

I do have a 31.5" HDR 4K monitor although I only have a standard PS4. What is more important for me is the fact that all PS4's support HDR if the particular game supports HDR (see the following link: http://www.pushsquare.com/n... ).

If a game supports HDR and you have an HDR 4k display your PS4 should detect that and enable HDR on your display.

Even though my PS4 can only output a picture at 1080p it does allow HDR if the game supports it and the display will upscale 1080p to 4K and the result is excellent, but what really gives more depth to the picture is HDR.

Note: Some UHD or 4K monitors/TV's don't support HDR so do your homework. My monitor is an "LG 32UK550 31.5" 4K UHD FreeSync HDR LCD Monitor" which is surprisingly cheap and although there are much better ones (ie. much more expensive) available it works (switching takes about two seconds) perfectly on both my PC and my PS4 and is IMHO an excellent size for desktop (I do have to sit back) PS4 gaming.

[sprinterboy]

Gonna be a even bigger jump for the base model ps4 owners ie me which has chosen the patient approach for 4k gaming.
I can't wait to replay hzd, spiderman, gow, days gone etc again nxt gen all in 4k HDR, to think I've got all those games to replay again day 1.

[bluebenjamin]

Of course it will be Ps5 sounds like a beast. Good thing you didnt fall for the Pro like I did its not pro at alI, base ps4 did an amazing job keeping up with the Pro(nice way to say this)risk of downvoting 50 %Truth way to say it The Pro was weak I sold mine it did not have enough ram ram would have really wiped the soup off the games its more to it than a sharp image.Most games kept ps4 settings with added filtering the pro was ps4 base with texture filtering and checkerboard 4k sometimes 😏 accept the facts(downvote possibility 100% getting banned 59%

[MajorLazer]

Same. The PS4 still amazes me (Playing Spiderman right now). Can't wait for the PS5. Going to buy a nice 40" 4K HDR TV for my room

[Kados]

Not even close. Moore's law ended years ago. The gains from gen to gen, even among PCs is very small and getting smaller. @14TF which is the upper end of what we can expect from the PS5, it will be ~3.5x the power of the PS4 Pro. The jump from the PS3 to original PS4 was ~8x.

Unless we see some breakthrough in computing tech that is actually viable for gaming, the gains from gen to gen from now on will remain at roughly 7-8x (3-4x if we keep getting mid gen refreshes). The days of 22x gains (PS2 to PS3) are dead and gone.

[rainslacker]

Moores law is still in effect, although its speed up its frequency, and the jump is not as frequent due to hitting a wall on what can be done physically at the manufacturing level at a price which is suitable for the consumer.

The noticeable gains from the increased computing power are becoming less apparent though. And as time goes on, there will be even more diminishing returns.

Moores law only applied to CPUs though, not overall computing power, and the way that GPUs are rated is different than how CPUs are rated.

[mkis007]

Forget TFLOPS. My words have very little to do with TFLOPS. Bandwidth. Ps4 peak maximum speed HDD : ~~130 mb/s ( never reached ) . What Sony is claiming for ps5 on the conservative side 4,000mb/s. This is what I was referring to. That speed, first the speed of the disc drive, and now the speed of the HDD, is the biggest bottleneck to gaming. It has never been snuffed out until now.

Even if as little 50% of that theoretical 4,000 mb/s( again conservative based on Cerny's words) we are looking at a revolution in what will be possible in how games and their engines are built.

[bluebenjamin]

I think you are right ive been complaining about Ps4 and Xbox one base consoles being gen 7.5 since they released so glad the kool aid is wearing off on most of you because at first most of you were so excited to have a new console they they became selectively blind to the fact they were still playing 30 fps on 7th gen games with a bump from 720p to 1080 that my friend is damn near the same not an upgrade more like an adjustment , Ps5 looks like it might be a real Playstation this time around

[starchild]

Yes, but resolution and framerate are far from being the only ways the more powerful hardware benefited game visuals. Games like God of War, The Witcher 3 and Horizon are a huge leap beyond anything we saw on last gen consoles.

[bluebenjamin]

@ Starchild HZD KillZone Infamous SS,GOW, all looked marvelous because Sony knows how to find the right development teams. They never had top notch hardware they just have good hardware backed by really talented software artist.The games you mentioned could be programmed to work on the cell how did you think 🤔 ps3 ran the last of us 720P 30 fps
It can handle it well to be dragging along the RSX gpu.The ps3 with parred back visuals lower rez lower AA, it would have ran those games in lower rez because if it couldn’t than the Ps4 should have easily ran GTA V 60Fps A game that has so much going on at once ran on both 7th and 8th gen hardware at 30Fps Let that sink in...

[MajorLazer]

Sounds like you've been drinking something though. Something high in proof

[nucky64]

well,if by jump, we're talking better enemy AI or ray tracing/HDR - it's very possible.

[indysurfn]

That's a tall order: According to Sony (see article) the PS4 was 10 times more powerfull than PS3.
https://www.trustedreviews....

So to see a 10x jump we will have to go to 10x 4.2 teraflops using PS4 pro. That would put us at 42 teraflops!
Even if we use original PS4 x10 that would be 10x 1.84 teraflops. which is 18.4 teraflops.

[PowerOfTheCloud]

I can't wait. Everything sounds amazing so far. Now i just hope for a (relatively) quiet cooling solution, which is the one single problem i have with the otherwise amazing ps4. It doesn't have to be silent, but shouldn't sound nowhere like a hairdryer either. If they can pull that off, ps5 will be perfect.

[Tapani]

I second to that! I really like my PS4 Pro + 512GB SSD for it's performance, but the noise is just too much. I had to clean it already once to be able to play the latest Pro enhanced games (God of War, RDR2 etc.). It got significantly more quiet, but still the changing pitch of the launch Pro model is irritating as hell. Here's hoping PS5 won't have this problem.

[GameStallion]

Hairdryer? My PS4 Pro sounds like a jet engine!

[SyntheticForm]

It sounds like an airport in general, let's be honest. God of War's menu made me fear for my Pro's life.

[rainslacker]

They'll probably still have a fan, but if it runs hot, given the power, it will likely require more than just a heatsinks solution. Will depend more on the size and power efficiency of the chip itself.

[kayoss]

NOt sure what you guys are talking about. Most of the time i play on PS4 Pro, my surround sound is way too loud for me to even hear my PS4 running at all.

[MajorLazer]

If the volume is loud enough, anything can be drowned out. Doesn't make it acceptable

[Rimeskeem]

the cooling for the Pro imo is great, something like that, honestly i would be fine with a larger console if it means better and more quiet cooling

[timlot]

So prettier cartoon characters. Great. Only racing games have gotten close to looking like reality and that's only during replay and photo modes. Everything has been pretty much the same.

[xX-oldboy-Xx]

You're playing the wrong games mate, have a crack at GOW, HZD and U4 and you'll see some amazing character models. Sony 1st Party are on another level, PS5 will facilitate graphic artists with more freedom and less constraints to create even more lifelike character models.

That's something to get excited about.

[OMGitzThatGuy]

Those games look amazing but I think he is talking about more of a photo-realistic look. They have good character models but the environments still look like that out of a game.

[Elda]

Preach!!

[conanlifts]

"Everything has been pretty much the same."

I think this is looking back with rose tinted graphics. You should go back and play uncharted 3 and then jump into uncharted 4. The difference is huge. Uncharted 3 still looks good, but the advancements are easily noticeable. Check the video below out and skip to 1:18 and watch the market scene.

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

Alternatively check out god of war 3, or even the remastered version and then look at the latest god of war. If you don't see the difference ( no idea how you couldn't) then you really don't need to upgrade for years.

On the other hand if it is photo realistic graphics you crave then I still think we are some years off. I think for true photo realistic graphics we will need 20-30Tflops (Maybe ps5 pro will get close if they do one).

[Antifan]

Forget graphics. Games need more mechanics, features, AI, bigger fluid realistic worlds. Graphics is something that was always icing on the cake, but the cake needs to have flavor above all.

[Rimeskeem]

Woah, Fortnite isnt the only game you know.

[S2Killinit]

Cant wait!

[SyntheticForm]

I can't wait for the click race to order a PS5 on Amazon. It's going to be like hitting the buzzer on Jeopardy and I'm going to be a part of it.

[PhantomS42]

Fighting for a Switch was insane, this will be far worse. Hopefully, Amazon doesn't screw up shipping this time around.

[Thundercat77]

Of course they will screw it up. This is Amazon you are talking about.

[conanlifts]

As an adult buying a new console is the only time i get that "Christmas excitement" feeling. I will certainly buy the ps5 day one. I have also purchased every xbox day one, but not sure about the next one. i have an X and if it is still supported there is possibly no reason to. But the PS5 is a certainty, I will also hold off buying TLOU2 until the PS5 is released.

[SyntheticForm]

Heh, yeah, I'm the same way unfortunately. I don't have that youthful fervor anymore either... about anything... except a new console. Buying a new console does take me back to the feeling of my young Christmases. The excitement isn't as intense, but it's there.

I don't think I can wait that long for TLOU 2 though. I'll play it again on the PS5 where it supports a higher resolution and frame rate, as I'm sure it'll be worth visiting again.

[EliteComments123]

LMAO!

[specialguest]

Sure, the graphics will be amazing with some of Sonys 1st party developers, but they'll prioritize graphics over 60fps again like they've always done

[TheGamez100]

As long as they run stable and gfx are truly amazing then I dont mind. Better yet, I wish more devs would just give us the option between 60fps or graphics. With the pro and x and many games having enhancements for them, I do see that happening much more often now.

[OMGitzThatGuy]

Sony and MS should set a standard together that all games must run at 60fps. These consoles have too much power to be wasted on silly effects that don't enhance gameplay and that kill performance and run like games from 2 gens ago.

[rainslacker]

Why? Option is fine, but mandating it means forcing it on the consumer and developer. I'd prefer console makers not try to be too overbearing in such things.

Plus, when it comes down to it, more people care about the graphics, than the frame rate. So long as the frame rate is stable to give them an even playing experience. There are very few games I play which I think higher frame rates would make that much of a difference.

[SkatterBrain]

so $500 with donald Tumps 25% import tax plus 11 or 12% state tax , i need to save up $670 for the PS5

[xX-oldboy-Xx]

...or any other next gen console.

Just think in Aus it'll probably cost about $700 - $800, hoping for $699. At that price the tech inside should be competitive, if not market leading.

[conanlifts]

I dont think we will be subject to Trumps tax on the PS5 in Australia, but it might alter the cost of the Xbox Two, not sure. Ironically if it does it will price xbox out of overseas markets.

[xX-oldboy-Xx]

Of course we won't - remember in Australia electronics of any type cost more. I wouldn't be surprised if PS5 is $700+. I'll be in line at midnight regardless of price.

[Father__Merrin]

I've got a feeling nvidia fanboys don't want this to be any good lol

[Cobra951]

My card is Nvidia now, but I'm nobody's fanboy. I want the hardware to be amazing. If it is, that means AMD are finally poised to actually compete with Nvidia Pascal and Turing, which would be better for all of us. The GCN room-heater architecture really has to go.

[starchild]

Yep, same.

[Father__Merrin]

The old argument about amd being a heater is long gone. Go and look at a load temp comparison chart on anantech there's a vast improvement from the old 290x 95°c

[m2stech]

Impressive but will get outdated in 2 years as with any GPU ever made.

[xX-oldboy-Xx]

Funny thing about that - and it's relevant to console and PC, games take 4+ yrs to make. What's the point in upgrading every few years? How many FPS do people need?

[Gwiz]

It depends on what kind of hardware you pick where low-end hardware will get you very limited support.
When you look at the 7th gen there was a big difference after 3/4 years compared to PC hardware and having mid-end PC hardware got you a long way but now with 8th gen hardware that difference has not been that big compared to then (Especially the GPU) where the CPU has been a big difference and mostly holding back the possibilities of the consoles.

[xX-oldboy-Xx]

So it's better to just get a console? Upgrade when it upgrades and you don't have to worry about support.

[Cobra951]

If ease of use and knowing a game is going to work were the only considerations, I'd agree with you. (In fact, I gave you an upvote.) There is way too much e-peen garbage on the PC front; but it also offers by far the most user control, and ownership that can't be taken away through a ToS. The PC is open; consoles are closed and controlled by their makers. If that wasn't a thing, I'd probably still be sticking with just consoles. Their games are made for a fixed hardware standard, and they just work (assuming competent development).

[xX-oldboy-Xx]

Cobra951 - I've dabbled with PC gaming, and enjoy building water cooled PC's - I've built 3 so far. I found the community toxic, in some cases uneducated, people rattling facts without actually knowing what they're sayomg.

Console gaming is an equal playing field, and I enjoy that. The only variables are controller choice, display and internet.

[Father__Merrin]

Oldboy you are correct the pc Community are extremely toxic they are the penultimate fanboys. But they hardly talk about games tho only performance and parts.... Yes they even have parts fanboys go into a forum and say western digital hdd are crap you will get thrown a hail of abuse lol they have Ram fans, cpu fans, gpu fans, monitor fans heck they even have fan fans lmao

[xenz]

Expect RDNA to be here for many years to come

[Cobra951]

Console generations are fixed snapshots in technology (mid-gen refreshes notwithstanding). During each gen (or refresh) it doesn't matter how much the hardware tech advances outside of its ecosystem. What matters is how much the software tech advances to take better advantage of the frozen spec. The results of such efforts can be amazing, with the better games from the tail end of a console cycle looking like they belong on better hardware than the early ones.

[ShadowWolf712]

Architecture is architecture. It's gonna be many years before they ditch that.

[Gordonah]

Very nice!

[Parasyte]

This is interesting news for both parties, MS and Sony. It is going to be really interesting to see what the respective 1st party devs can do with this kind of hardware.

I sure hope we start to see more titles running at 60fps across the board.

[Whitey2k]

I dont know about Microsoft as Sony has the navi gpu exclusive to them. no1 knows what gpu the xbox is going to have but I do know that both ps4 and the next xbox will have a zen 2 ryzen

[Parasyte]

I don't know where people keep getting the Navi exclusivity from, but that is certainly a flat out lie.

[MrSec84]

Maybe Vega is more suited to Microsoft's needs going forward.
Vega is AMD's Compute focused GPU architecture, Navi is more gaming related.

Sony wouldn't need the volumes of chips for PS5 that MS will need for their combined XCloud/Azure/XBox products.

We also haven't heard anything about Next-Xbox using Navi/RDNA.
Even though MS had a presence on the AMD Computex Keynote stage, AMD outright stated next-gen PlayStation is using Navi, but nothing has ever been said about Next-Xbox using it.

MS are likely building the most cost effective product they can, given that Azure is going to demand more Compute Focused hardware, it may be a better financial bet for them to just use a Vega GPU that is similar or the same in spec to Azure Servers.

Using Vega doesn't mean the console will be weak, it could have more CUs than PS5 to match outright gaming performance, as well as have it's own custom Ray Tracing hardware solution to allow for a similar outright development feature set to Sony's machine.

Maybe things will change at E3, it just seems pointless not to have confirmed Navi already.
I suspect both machines will be great upgrades over current gen consoles, especially with Ryzen and AMD GPU tech being so much better now.

[FanboysKiller]

AMD do more and ask for less unlike intel and nvidia.

[Mylove1516]

Graphics aside, I want to see what the new CPU will do for next gen.

[DaDrunkenJester]

I really hope we see more advanced AI, better physics (which will seriously help in VR as well), better draw distances etc.

[mockzer0]

I wonder why the article states that more will be revealed at e3?

[ShadowWolf712]

Because there's a PC Gaming conference there and AMD will likely be present to show what the new architecture means for games and gamers?

[mockzer0]

Thanks man! That makes total sense.

[StormSnooper]

Imagine what Sony’s first party will do with this thing (:

[meep316]

That’s good, gcn had a good run but it’s time to move on.

[IRetrouk]

All sounds good, I'm ready and willing for next gen to start, cant wait to see what they come up with.

[Snakefist30]

HYPE IS REAL!

[DafunkyRebel]

Graphics are good but I need performance and smooth 60fps

[kayoss]

I know first party studios wont have a problem using the potential of the system to make great looking games next gen. I just fear that with all this power, 3rd party studios will half ass their games. Lets hope I'm wrong.

[BLow]

Why would they? What makes this different than any other new generation? If they like money then they will be there. 3rd party will always be behind 1st party titles because they have to focus on more than one system. I don't understand why people always go into panic mode when a new gen comes. It's no different than any other.

New technology and tools come out and developers adapt. That will not change if they want to make money especially with gamers extremely (sometimes unrealistic) tastes.

[EliteComments123]

74034063 TFLOPS !!! JK but consoles games look better than PC games imo becuase of API Agree?

[Tross]

Neat.

[Shikoku]

Awesome

[strayanalog]

First batch of Navi GPUs? Nice. Going to be a lot of "Hey! Listen!" when the console gets going but I can ignore that.

[Stevonidas]

I just hope developers make performance their top priority.

[fathertime4464]

Sounds like hardware wise this next gen will be very impressive regardless of the system of choice. As an Xbox gamer I only hope that the 2 sku rumer is true, because I really don't want to have to upgrade in the middle of the generation again. Especially since I plan on upgrading to an 8k tv next year.
Im not expecting 8k games, but I am expecting 8k upscaling from both Sony and Ms.

[eddvdm]

Very good news, AMD is in its best comeback in years under their "new" CEO Lisa Su. She's a genius.

[XiNatsuDragnel]

PS5 GOAT

[slavish0]

how come when ms got on stage and said they are planning next level stuff? will next Xbox really be stronger?

[DafunkyRebel]

Did Sony said they were having a PSX this ear or are they skipping that this year cause I’d love to finally see some demonstrations of the PS5 performance live

[MrSec84]

Sony haven't confirmed they will host a PSX show this year.
They said in their last State of Play that there would be another soon.

There are rumors on Neogaf that Sony will be officially revealing PS5 at an event before E3, which supposedly comes from a number of reliable sources that have had good info in the past.

We also have rumors that The Last of Us Part 2 will have a new trailer and release date when Death Stranding is confirmed to get a new trailer.
Seems like Sony are dealing with their remaining PS4 info and they're going to show what's next soon.

Given that AMD confirmed more details about Navi and 3rd gen Ryzen it doesn't make much sense for Sony to wait long before showing off what PS5 can do.

[babadivad]

Exciting.