Sony is hosting its Investor Relations Day 2019, and CEO Jim Ryan hosted a presentation on the present and future of PlayStation including some really interesting elements.
Claps for Sony the right approach to gaming
Shout out to Sony repeatedly keeping a generation going long after a new one has started. Their consoles always have the best golden years of software
One could argue that Sony is shooting themselves on the foot by supporting their last gen systems the way they do since it makes it easier for potential next gen buyers to make the jump. But this is one major plus point for them in the end. Dedicated customer support goes a long way in building brand trust and it shows with PlayStation.
"One could argue that Sony is shooting themselves in the foot by supporting their last gen systems the way they do..." Well sure, if one wants to sound like a dumbass lol! Look, when this generation is finally a wrap, Sony will own the #1, #2, #3, and #5 all time highest selling home consoles in gaming history (not counting handhelds). Part of that success is due to the fact that they have earned the trust of consumers generation after generation by providing unparalleled support of their consoles long after they've reached their expiration date. I think they know what they're doing. So sure, one COULD make the argument you are suggesting, but they would be wrong and they'd sound like an idiot.
I think you are either drunk, or haven't read my comment through, or both.
LOL, are you saying that about the Vita and the PS3, because they cut it really fast when the PS4 launched.
No they didnt (regarding PS3). You need to go back and learn your gaming history. PS3 launched in 2006 and ended production in 2014. Thats an 8 year run, which is very good for a home console. During or right before PS4's launch, Sony released The Last if Us, Gran Turismo 6, Puppeteer, Beyond Two Souls, and God of War Ascention. Hardly the earmark of a company "cutting off" support. You dont know what you're talking about.
@WickedLester What big Sony games did the PS3 got after the PS4 launch (2014 and beyond)!? How many exclusive deals did Sony made for PS3 after PS4 launch? I'm sorry but that is not support at all, you are the one that need to open the eye's, they ditched the PS3 and the Vita in 2013.
Dont forget gt 6 and God of war near launch too.
When you read these statements its not hard to see why Sony has been top of the pile for so long.
i believe in sony <3
"Ryan mentioned that launch plans will be disclosed at the appropriate time. He pledged commitment to getting them right and admitted that Sony succeeded in that with PS1, PS2, and PS4, but failed with PS3." Sorry what was that? I thought I was told by many here that Sony did not make any mistakes with the PS3 launch. Atleast Jim Ryan is big enough to admit there were missteps and that they're learning from them for future releases. When someone on the payroll can admit to something that certain fans can't it says a lot. Looking forward to the PS5. I hope they have some solid launch titles right out the gate or atleast within 3 months of launch because Knack and Shadowfall aren't the calibre of games I want to see as a selling point for a new system. With that said the existence of BC and a boost mode makes the system instantly attractive if you're like me and don't have a PS4 Pro. I kinda hope we see developers update their games to take advantage of it. Can't wait!
PS3 is a pile of shit, never had a console that ran games so poorly.
It's actually a very good system that just had a lot of issues early in its lifespan. It definitely had performance issues with certain multiplats but late into the generation things were pretty much even for the most part and in some cases better for the PS3 versions.
PS3 is an absolutely incredible console, line up was 10/10 and surpassed by PS4. Ran games smooth as butter too.
"I thought I was told by many here that Sony did not make any mistakes with the PS3 launch. " Well....saying Sony made no mistakes with PS3 launch is a silly assertion to make. Of course, I could easily say "many here" said Microsoft did not make any mistake with the Xbox One launch and I'm not really sure what point I would have made. That "many" people say "many" things?
And your point is?
That saying "many" people have said something doesn't really mean anything. That point was explicit.
Except we literally had an article last week with 'many' disagreeing with that assertion: https://n4g.com/news/226394... And in this case many is actually a lot considering we're denying reality
You will have to point out the quotes where you were "told" by "many" that "Sony did not make any mistakes with the PS3 launch". Cuz as far as I can see it isn't anywhere in the link you provided.
Haha so true
We all know ps3 was a misstep launch so not sure what u on abought
"In the longer term, Sony plans to expand the mainstream business model to Blu-Ray, plus digital download, plus streaming. There is no intention at Sony to force the digital model on anyone." Very good to hear.
“Ryan mentioned that launch plans will be disclosed at the appropriate time. He pledged commitment to getting them right and admitted that Sony succeeded in that with PS1, PS2, and PS4, but failed with PS3.” You call 87.4 million sold, the current 7th highest selling system and 5th best selling home console of all time, a failure? What does that say about every other system that sold less? PS3 still sold faster than PS1 in its first 44 months(3 years and 8 months) & faster than Xbox 360 all throughout its lifecycle with launch aligned numbers. Plus it blows the majority of every other system’s sales under 80 million out of the water. Show some pride in your third home console and quit throwing it under the bus. https://mobile.twitter.com/...
He was talking about only the launch of the system in retrospective of PS1 & PS2, not the entire console itself. Calm down.
PS3 still sold more at launch than PS1 and proceeded to outperform it for a considerable amount of time
*Jim Ryan says they made mistakes in how they handled the PS3 launch* "Bu-bu-bu look at this graph that shows how well it sold over it's first 3 years" -_- See this is the problem with being a fanboy. You can't acknowledge that something could've been done better and just have to deflect. Did they sell 87 million in their first year? Hell no they didn't. The systems launch was full of problems and questionable aspects that you would not have expected from a company that already had one hugely successful system and a second which dominated the generation. You can acknowledge all of that at the same time as the good that came post-launch window. If you can't do that then you're a very simple minded person.
“See this is the problem with being a fanboy.” Not fanboyism, it’s just stating basic logic & facts. “You can't acknowledge that something could've been done better and just have to deflect.” PS3 could’ve done better, but you could say the same thing about any entertainment device. “Did they sell 87 million in their first year? Hell no they didn't.” How PS3 did perform is still far more than various other platforms in the same timeframe. Why even ask if a console sold its entire lifetime sales in its first year? It sold 10.5 million in its first year, which is still a lot more than various other systems in the same timeframe. “The systems launch was full of problems and questionable aspects that you would not have expected from a company that already had one hugely successful system and a second which dominated the generation.” Various consoles launch with problems. Very rarely do you see a major platform release with no issues at all. Just look at the issues its direct competitor, Xbox 360, had to deal with in its early years life having the one of the faultiest hardware failure rates in an entertainment device along with nickel and diming consumers. “You can acknowledge all of that at the same time as the good that came post-launch window. If you can't do that then you're a very simple minded person.” I do acknowledge the issues. But PS3 is far from the only system that launched with issues and highlighting them like they're the worst thing makes other platforms that performed lower commercially look even worse in comparison. Saying PS3 failed is saying all the other platforms that performed below it are even worse failures.
"Not fanboyism, it’s just stating basic logic & facts." The only fact you stated was related to sales in the longrun. You gave no facts to show that the PS3 launch was not mishandled and that Sony failed in numerous areas. Issue number one was their price point of $600 (more in the UK) which they defended by saying "we want you to feel like you earnt the PS3". Sounds a bit similar to a certain "just buy a 360" comment made recently. Oh and if you decide to defend that price then you'll have to address it's competitors substantially cheaper price-point too. "Various consoles launch with problems. Very rarely do you see a major platform release with no issues at all. Just look at the issues its direct competitor, Xbox 360, had to deal with in its early years life having the one of the faultiest hardware failure rates in an entertainment device along with nickel and diming consumers. " And this is why your fanboy-esque defence is so laughable. You're defending the industry leader to a competitor, that's was at the time pretty new to the business, that threw together a system with off the shelf parts ,and even then the system was more capable at launch than the PS3. BUT somehow that system ended up being the 3rd party favorite for the majority of the generation. How much marketshare did Sony lose because of the 360 and the Wii? That alone tells you how badly they handled the PS3 if the newcomer despite many major mistakes in the hardwares reliability can more than rival their systems sales. Lifetime sales for the 360 are listed as 84 mil. Not exactly bad for 3rd place when you're only 3 mil behind the competitor who pretty much owned the previous generation. Btw don't tell me that those sales are all from RROD because if that is true it says a lot if those people wanted to just repurchase the system over buying a competitor to replace it which on it's own shows some of the PS3's failings. "I do acknowledge the issues." Your original comment tried to twist Jim Ryan saying they 'failed with the PS3 launch' into them 'failing with the entire system'. You're either misunderstanding the article on purpose or deflecting away from the topic being THE LAUNCH of a system. But hey if you say you acknowledge their failings list the rest of them for me. I can name about 3 more off the top of my head so how about you do it for me? State these "basic logic & facts" for me.
Even $600 was still better than how 360 nickel and dimed you. It didn’t release with an HDMI, locked various console features behind a paywall, expensive proprietary HDD, faulty hardware that broke down or scratched discs, etc. As expensive as PS3 admittedly was you’d still end up paying more for 360 in the long term. You’re deflecting that consoles from anybody can have issues. It doesn’t matter how long you’ve been a veteran of the industry it’s just basic common sense. Switch is Nintendo’s seventh console and it still had issues such as warping and drifting controllers when it launched. You’ve got to be delusional if you’re putting one company’s faults above others. You’re even more delusional if you’re saying a console that did not even release with an HDMI port was more capable than one that did. Xbox 360 had faulty hardware because Microsoft rushed it to market to beat Sony to the market of 7th gen. “BUT somehow that system ended up being the 3rd party favorite for the majority of the generation” Not really, especially not to the extent that NES, SNES, PS1, PS2 & PS4 were the third party preferred platforms of their generations. PS3 still received plenty of third party exclusives from Japanese devs, plus as the gen went on a number of western and eastern devs made PS3 the lead development platform. “How much marketshare did Sony lose because of the 360 and the Wii?” A lot obviously, yet PS3 still sold at a faster rate than 360 all throughout its lifecycle and lasted far longer than Wii did. So to say it’s a complete failure is even more ridiculous. As I said earlier even when just talking about the launch of the console PS3 still sold better than PS1 & 360 as well as various other welll known consoles. What point is there in stating the obvious that PS3 had issues? As I said a console having issues is nothing out of the ordinary, but that doesn’t make it a complete failure
"In this respect, FOR THE TIME BEING, the console as something that brings about computing functionality to the users is very important, but on the other hand, technology will progress and so as I said today, the Remote Play and PlayStation Now, the streaming services will be worked on in parallel, that is what we are doing at this moment." I don't like the sound of that at all.
It's just the truth dude, tech is moving on, I dont like streaming at all but it's going to become more and more popular, I dont think it's taking away consoles anytime soon though, they have their eye on the future while still wholeheartedly supporting their consoles, it's not a bad thing in my view, to be prepared for the future I mean.
"while still wholeheartedly supporting their consoles" As long as they wholeheartedly support their consoles then I'm fine. But he seems to be signaling this may be coming to an end in the future. I just don't want to be playing future versions of Horizon Zero Dawn and God of War off of some crappy stream. But if they are available with streaming and on consoles or PC then yeah....no worries.
I'm in complete agreement with you, the day its streaming or download only I'm out, but I didnt get that from these announcements, sounds more to me like they are covering all bases for whatever trends happen to come in the future, they still recognize the importance of the console, the quote about being niche is being taken out of context, he only means in the greater landscape of gaming that the console isn't as good at making revenue as other streams are.
From the article: “There is no intention at Sony to force the digital model on anyone. Streaming is intended as an enhancing factor, but not the only way to enjoy games“ This, this right here is why I’m on board day one with Sony. They hear the gamers and offer the best of both. They believe in hardware and will continue to support it. They will also provide for the other side of the fence, people who want digital only. Best of both worlds and that’s what Sony does, they keep it simple and amazing.
Heh.... There's a lot I don't like about this article. Sony really should take pride in the PS3. It was a box that wasn't just a box, it was innovation, POWERFUL innovation. Sony demonstrated they weren't like everyone else, that they weren't afraid to do it differently and they wanted power, they wanted something unique, and it was a console that couldnt be replaced for TEN YEARS! It took ten years to shut down the PS3. And because everyone else griped about it, Sony feel they have to tuck their tail between their legs, pathetic Sony. The PS3 was a beast! It symbolized power, uncompromising power, it symbolized innovation, that their R&D had genius and they never stopped working. It symbolized drive and determination, that they were going to slow it down on the table and never step back and as a result, Bluray won the war and we're feeling the effects of it today as all consoles have a Bluray drive. Screw it! The PS3 was one of the best consoles ever and dwarfed the 360, and it created some of the best developers in the business that were pushed to flex their development muscle to the powerhouses they are today because of the PS3. Secondly, backward compatibility, please.... Again, there's no shame in the PS3 and I don't buy hardware to live in the past, are you kidding? Why are we as consumers demanding the most powerful hardware in existence when we want to use software that doesn't utilize it, why bother making the effort to as Sony likes to say "harness the power of" said in the PS3 days, power that you're not gonna bother using because you're so busy living in the past. I don't want backward compatibility, and don't want you wasting your time and resources on giving me what I can do on my PS4, PS3, PS2, and PS1. I don't buy cutting edge new technology to live in the past, I move on and look to the Future, the potential, I played those games yesterday, what have you done for me today? I don't know how people are so dense! You commanding the latest technology but then you don't wanna use it...... Asinine......
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