The previously "on hold" PS3 version of RTS Command & Conquer: Red Alert 3 is back on, with EA promising to do "some really cool things" that make the most of the 1080p resolution and extra space Blu-Ray and PS3 provides.
PS3 wins again.
really cool indeed...
Dam just as I got for the PC :(
Maybe they will allow keyboard and mouse support on the PS3?
I feel for you neo_ad. I was about to do the same, but I would've had to upgrade the old computer. I will get the PS3 version day one instead.
EA gets most of its income from PS3 now. When they get most of their money from the PS3, well they lovy PS3 long time, people. We all knew this would come to PS3. Just like with all the bunch of other titles that EA owns. Say what you want about EA, there is however no doubt that they are the biggest 3rd party publishers. And they didnt became big by being stupid (Bethesa, Epic etc). They became big by observing the trend and siding with the winner. And thats the PS3 as they are fully aware no doubt.
It's not too bad of a game, but having the co-op commander always with you can get quite annoying after awhile. They are just so stupid at times that they have no value in combat, then at other times they seem to get half the mission done before you even really get going. More fun with a real human in control of them, or if they weren't there at all. If they are using that extra blu-ray space they should at least try to make the videos full screen size. On the PC they put a border around the videos to make them smaller and hide the compression. Didn't need to do that with C&C 3 though. Could have put it on two DVDs for PC gamers, that would have been a nice gesture. This should be a fun one for PS3 users. Hope some of those refinements come down the line as patches for us PC users though. I have to deal with crappy SecuRom it's the least you can do EA.
Have you guys notice how EA has change? I am starting to think that they really want our money. Heck I would say that they make more money on the PS3 than they do on any other console wait a minute... they do.
Sorry buddy but EA makes more money on the 360 than they make from the PS3,PSP and PS2 combined. http://www.n4g.com/NewsCom-...
Did you analyze the *overall* total in terms of Sony?
Not only that. It looks its also the first 3rd party trying to push PS3 further (1080p and BD content? Hell, yeah). Somebody found the key to PS3 development, it seams.
I was going to say NO to this game just because it was put on hold.. but when i saw, that they will be taking advantage of PS3s power then i might consider buying this :)
Where hav u been brother? Im not to bothered about C&C3 but Woot Woot Woot to the Ps3
if they are using the extra space why dont other dev make there games 1080p and not 720p....i love my ps3 but whats the point of my 1080p tv if im in the xmb at 1080p and the put in a new game such as resistance 2 and i see my tv flicker to 720p...just kinda disappointing and resistance is a really good game really good..go get it
It costs much more money to make native 1080p content and have it at 30-60 fps. There are more picture elements (pixels) at 1080p than 720p and costs much more to make that play smoothly. Most 1080p games are upscaled 720p games.
Costs more? What you mean finacially? I dont quite understand what you mean. Simply put, 1080p is a higher resolution and there for requires more system resources to run. It usually results in sacrifices being made else where, Anti Aliasing, Physics, players on screen, FPS etc etc Doubling the resolution from 720 or 1080 is a massive leap and requires you to find a lot more power from somewhere. Sometimes it's just not viable, whether that be through not having enough power or maybe even time constants. The Devs have to compromise between performance and visuals.
Not just that. But also way more memory is used. Which means, the frame buffer alone would double your memory footprint in vram. This puts a strain on texture memory, not to mention the higher bandwidth you need to render those images. Some games do not have this high texture requirements and thus can possibly run with less texture memory (so, say, higher resolution, more geometry but lesser textures/low res textures would work fine). If you can manage that, then 1080p is just fine. Procedural textures can also help lowering the memory footprint (or compression/texture streaming). When this tech is more and more available, and they can use creative ways to run stable 1080 (like Wipeout runs a per scan line dynamic resolution between full 1920 and 1500 or so), I would imagine, we'll see more hi res games.
Well said Fishy Fingers and Ju. It's not only a matter of how powerful the RSX and the Cell are, but how much available memory there is available for the framebuffer. 1080p takes twice as much memory as 720p, since there are double the pixels to draw. I'm sure if the PS3 had more available RAM (I would ballpark somewhere between 796 and 1024 megabytes), and if the RSX was a little more powerful (though many clever developers use part of the Cell to aid in graphics processing, so not necessarily needed), then I would bet money that there would be a lot more games out there running at 1080p right now. But, Sony probably figured it was loosing enough money already on the hardware due to Cell and Blu-Ray (those blue laser diodes are expensive), that 512 MB of RAM cost enough as is, more would have been too expensive. (on a note with those diodes, this is why some other companies are try to make another new high density format off of more conventional red laser diodes since they are cheaper to make). Anyway, all that being said a game like RA3 should be able to run at 1080p. There really isn't a whole lot going on texture wise, the PS3 should be able to crunch out lots of geometry no problem. If you check the games for windows performance index (even though RA3 isn't labelled for it, apparently it still uses it), it uses a 4.1 out 5.9 as it's recommended setting, and a 5.9 doesn't mean the most powerful hardware out there, just the current maximum. That isn't very powerful hardware, and so PS3 should handle it fine. Maybe no AA at 1080p but come on, you gotta give something for it.
What with taking advantage of blu-ray and whatnot
I think he refers to cost in terms of budget put into a respective games resolution? Correct me if I am wrong.
Sweeeet! Definitely will be worth the wait. Please pass on PC and PC Jr. versions :)
I admit, I laughed. Good one man.
Meh. Game was okay. Felt a bit stale on the PC. I bet EA's "really cool things" include charging $60 for a six month old game! But if they included the expansion pack for free and add in a documentary or something like that, then it can count as "really cool things". But one extra unit and a high price tag don't cut it.
Seems like devs are getting their heads around the PS3 now. With Wipeout HD, KZ2, R2, R&C, Uncharted - it seems asif the devs are beginning to get the PS3 architecture. Sure Sony is spreading the techniques used in these games to other developers in the tools like EDGE. We will most probably start seeing some increase in graphic quality in the PS3 now - as the "new" dev cycle is taking advantage of the knowledge gained. The last current crop of titles are still very much build on the old toolsets - only top titles make use of the new techniques.
Good to see EA is finally making strides with making full use of the PS3's capabilities and learning more about how to develop more effectively on the console., I hope they have gotten over their "issue" with saying that the PS3 is hard to develop for.
I was going to forget this game altogether, even though i have very capable pc (just not enjoying gaming with keyboard and mouse) but now it seems this is a must have game when it (eventually) comes to ps3!
so for the old up ps3 owners get to play in 1080p??? thats kinda......last time i check the ps3 doesn't have only Blu-Ray for extra space its also support mouse/keyboard and tablet about you get creative EA if you want ps3 owner to drop $60 for a game that will already lost its value b4 it comes out
Getting this for PC. RTS should stay on PC. Unless there's keyboard and mouse support...
Voice commands instead! (but mouse/kb or controller, w/e, will do just fine :)
Im starting to love EA =)
Finally...Sweet mercy..can't wait to get this game. Seems like with the release of Mirror's edge, Dead Space and this, EA might be back in my favorite developers.
it was always going to happen but i didn't expect EA to be at the forefront! this is going to become a trend and the reason i bought a PS3 (10 years) goodbye inferior, hello superior and apologies to 360 owners.
Red Alert FTW!!!!
as someone said above, i am also starting to love ea.
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