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Should microtransactions and loot boxes be banned?

There's been a recent loot box ban in Belgium, but should loot boxes and microtransactions be banned everywhere?

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DaCajun7d ago

Loot boxes with random stuff that you have no idea what you will get or even get duplicates when you paid money for it is just wrong. Yes PAID loot boxes should be banned.

In F2P games I understand why micro-transactions are there. Micro-transactions for items in F2P that doesn't affect gameplay I'm ok with because I know what I'm paying for but at the same time they should be reasonably priced. In no way should buying them cost more than or even add up to more than a full priced game.

Micro-transactions of any kind should never be in paid games. If games are costing more and they need to make up those costs then charge $5 or $10 more. Not nickel and dime people and preying on some peoples, especially children, addictions to double, triple, or even quadruple their profits like the con-artists they're being. Also considering these days you don't really own a digital product and these companies can nickel and dime you then they can just take your digital rights from you without warning and almost at will.

In my opinion they should rethink their game development. These companies waste so much money and effort on the most useless things that are not needed. How about not having to have famous actors voice act in your game because personally I couldn't care less as long as the dialog is done correctly. They just had Jon Bernthal voice act in Ubisofts "Ghost Recon: Wildlands" and he'll be in their next game "Ghost Recon: Breakpoint" and the quest I played with him in it really didn't make any huge impact in the game to me. It could have been some guy off the street an it would have been no different. I really like Jon Bernthal's acting especially in The "Punisher" but I want a good game and shoehorning some actor into your game will not make it better no matter how much money you throw at it so stop wasting money or crap like that and actually spend it towards game play and better content.

JaXion57d ago

Off topic but I find it hilarious you responded to a one word comment with a whole essay.

Razzer7d ago

I don't want governments in the business of regulating games. At all.

And whatever happened to personal responsibility? Why is it someone else can tell me what I can and can't do with my money in games? And the pure and simple fact is that if you don't want to buy a loot box or micro-transaction......don' ;t buy a loot box or micro-transaction. All part of this whole "freedom" thing.

Ricegum7d ago

Razzer

But loot boxes are becoming a huge part of AAA games. Gone are the days when you unlock things for, you know, playing the game. Greedy companies are getting greedier and it does need to stop. There are no positives to loot boxes for us at all.

Razzer7d ago

"Gone are the days when you unlock things for, you know, playing the game."

No they are not. Do not try to tell me that you cannot unlock stuff in games by playing them. You can. I know. I play games. Saying those days are gone is simply false.

Ricegum7d ago

Razzer

Nope. Play an older generation game, and then come back and play a modern game and you'll notice the difference. It's not false at all.

Please stop feeding this problem.

Razzer7d ago (Edited 7d ago )

Hmmmm, you mean like Days Gone? Seem to have been able to unlock everything I need by playing the game.

Where is the problem?

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Prince-Ali7d ago

People like you are the problem! Game companies have been warned TIME AND TIME again that they need to regulate THEMSELVES with this new untapped MS and lootbox trend.. but no.. they pumped that well unregulated until the government did what they they were expected to do and they decided they were gonna try regulate!
This isn't about you being able to spend your money how you want... that's really not the issue here, it's ALWAYS about how things are regulated, marketed and distributed and the fact these games are now seriously affected by MS and lootboxes in terms of worsening the experience or grind means the issue is CERTAINLY not about 'freedom' or 'control'.
Once again... people like you are part of the problem because you refuse to objectively assess what's ACTUALLY happening in comparison to what you THINK is happening... ¬_¬

Razzer7d ago

No, people like you are the problem. There. See how easy it is throw out random bullshit lines? Just stop.

You may expect governments to spend their crucial tax payer resources to regulate video game (yes, regulation does cost the government money), but gosh.....I have this crazy idea that governments should be involved in stuff more important than how folk spend their disposable income in a video game.

And yes, it absolutely is about freedom and control. If a game is affected by lootboxes so much that you have to grind a lot, how about this: don't buy the game. That is your freedom. And seriously.....you want the government involved so you don't have to grind as much? Is that a joke? That's just asinine. You act like this a issue of national security. Sorry, it isn't. This is about something that exists as an optional transaction. Key word: optional. And you want to be able to control whether others have that option. If you want to affect games then do so in the court of public opinion. Go crazy yapping about Battlefront or Middle-earth. EA has already taken a couple of hits in their stocks because of MTs. Fine. If they decide MTs are not worth it....fine. And when the base price of games jump $20 don't bitch about it. But you go down the road of governments involved in video games then you are changing the industry for the worse.

"you refuse to objectively assess what's ACTUALLY happening in comparison to what you THINK is happening"

More silly lines that are nothing but fluff. If you are going to continue to post can you just cut out the bullshit?

meganick7d ago

I used to be on your side on this issue, but now I’m on the side of banning them after seeing the industry flagrantly abuse them and getting worse with time. The shadiest abuse is when publishers release their games with no MT’s to avoid criticism and trick people into buying the game, and then a month or two later they patch MT’s into the game and even alter the flow of progression to compel players to pay to progress.
MT’s should be banned in all but F2P games, and loot boxes should be banned entirely as they are a form of gambling and you never know what you’re getting. You could even get things you already bought in previous loot boxes in some games, which is shady as heck.

Razzer7d ago

"The shadiest abuse is when publishers release their games with no MT’s to avoid criticism and trick people into buying the game, and then a month or two later they patch MT’s into the game and even alter the flow of progression to compel players to pay to progress. "

Examples?

TekoIie7d ago (Edited 7d ago )

"but now I’m on the side of banning them after seeing the industry flagrantly abuse them and getting worse with time"

What's your legal argument for banning them? See you want to disagree and say they should be banned but offer no reasoning that would hold up in a court of law to back yourself up. What reasoning would You provide that doesn't also have a knock on effect for things like gambling.

TekoIie7d ago

"I don't want governments in the business of regulating games. At all."

Out of interest how literal are you in this statement? I can think of one good regulation being that China demands the drop rates in Loot boxes be made public which to me is good because itinforms the consumer o what the odds are of them receiving what they want while also still giving them the option to purchase it.

Regulation can be good and also destructive. It's not a straightforward topic.

Razzer6d ago

If there is information that needs to be relayed to the public about a game then we have the ESRB and PEGI. They have done a great job informing parents about the mature content of games so I see no reason why they could not also handle information like this. I would rather self-governing bodies handle these issues rather than governments which can easily become overreaching in time.

Razzer6d ago (Edited 6d ago )

So if I answer the question in such a way you disagree with.....that is trolling? lol

Dragonscale6d ago

@razz, it all depends on context. If a game is free to play then fair enough, there are a few ftp games which have none intrusive mt's, or purely cosmetic. Its when big pubs like ea put them in full price aaa's its not good and pure greed. Yes some aaa's don't have them, sekiro for instance, but games like fifa, battlefront etc take the p1ss tbh. Also the reason governments are taking action is to protect vulnerable people and children as paid lootboxes are classed as gambling which is why the Belgian government banned them, and rightly so tbh, its not quite as simple as just personal responsibility. Also asking the games industry to regulate itself just wouldn't work.

Razzer6d ago

"protect vulnerable people"

Vulnerable from what? Themselves? If they cannot keep themselves from clicking "buy" then yes that absolutely is a issue of personal responsibility. Society needs to get passed this idea that governments are here to prevent people from making poor choices.

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FTANK7d ago

I don't have a problem with ones that are more supplemental and make them obtainable in-game within reason. Otherwise it's completely optional.

Seriously- you can already restrict purchasing through your accounts on most platforms. You're essentially buying a scratch ticket. Plenty of people gamble compulsively yet we can still find lottery tickets in abundance yet thats ok because the State gets to make bank off of it. We don't need a nanny for every fucking thing in life...we already have the progressives doing enough of that and making life shittier in inane aspects of our life. We have an existential crisis in this country and we have boneheads wasting time attacking how we can spend our money in a videogame instead of the dirt bag marxists trying to turn a great nation of excess in to another grey shithole. Prioritize

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