Cuphead is proof that Nintendo Switch really needs an achievement system

Achievements in games aren't for everyone, but they are (almost) everywhere. PlayStation has its trophies, Xbox has achievements, and Steam also has achievements. One place where they don't exist is on Switch, and no matter how good the Switch games lineup is, or how awesome the console is as a whole, the lack of achievements will always feel like a missing feature for many.

[gamer7804]

Agreed. I really hope Nintendo adds this.

[_SilverHawk_]

Always remember that Nintendo mostly caters to children so If it's not beneficial to them then it's not worth it for them. Party chat is not coming to the switch or anything that will have pedophiles interacting with children so Nintendo will try their best to keep children safe.

[meep316]

Nintendo tries to have wide appeal and they do their own thing without worrying too much about the other guys. I’m actually glad they didn’t start making PlayStation clones, we already have Xbox.

[King_Noctis]

You mean just like Sony try to keep the “children” safe by censoring games?

Just stop it.

[VenomUK]

WHAT IF - Nintendo allow Microsoft to add achievements to their (Nintendo's) first-party games such as Super Mario Odyssey and Zelda Breath of the Wild - would you want that?

[Shiken]

You know you are desperate to downplay something you don't like by playing the tired false claims that Nintendo caters to children, despite various more mature exclusives and more mature 3rd party ports.

Plus we all know that Sony is all about the kids these days, seeing how the same games that they censor on PS4 are left alone on Switch.

[Silly gameAr]

@King Noctis

If you mean keeping half naked loli's censored, sure. I hope you and the people that like to bring up Sony censoring because you get butthurt because someone brings up a good point, stop soon as well.

[Fritzwochel]

They had their chance to implement it before releasing the Switch, but of course they didn't. Nintendo have always been the laughing stock when it comes to online services. Not gonna change anytime soon.

[Sono421]

Look, I want Nintendo to add an achievement system as much as the next guy, but let's keep our priorities straight, they should fix their online first, that before literally anything else.

[PhoenixUp]

At this point I doubt they’d adapt to a practice that’s been popular for over a decade. They haven’t even done basic things like implement party chat or built-in Ethernet ports

[meep316]

I don’t really get achievements, are they really something people care about? If so I guess Nintendo is really missing out by not adding them, seems like a simple addition.

[Benjaminkno]

So you don’t get them but they’re missing out?

Makes sense

[Sitdown]

Clearly you didn't read the "if so".

[SpeedDemon]

For some it adds replayabilty to games and some people just enjoy completing challanging goals. It was also kinda neat back when Avatar were a bigger focus on Xbox, some of the harder achievements would unlock Avatar items.

Edit: Meant to reply to someone else.

[jeki]

I don't care about them but maybe other people do?

[Vanfernal]

It's like internet points... Some people get satisfaction and bragging rights out of it.... Some don't care. I know some people who ONLY play games to unlock trophies. To each their own I guess.

[Amplitude]

I used to care waaay too much. It's honestly It's what kept me in the Playstation universe and out of the PC world - even when i had a custom built solid gaming PC that can blow the PS4 (and PS3 back then) out of the water. But i literally would rather pay extra to play the inferior game just so i could get the trophies. I remember grabbing Crysis 2 on PS3 right after i spent over a grand on my PC lmao
I also spent probably 12 hours on my platinum of Barbie Sisters Puppy Rescue... it was torture.

Nowadays i jump around between PS4, Switch, PC and a bit of XB1 constantly so i dont really care that much. It's still definitely fun getting all the trophies in things though - adds replay value and a sense of accomplishment and its absolutely one of the things that keeps me from getting multi-plats on Switch.

[Teflon02]

Yup, I definitely care. As a person who likes completing games 100%. I've been that type even before they existed. It adds a good value to my games. It's the reason some games I'd rather play on Vita than Switch like FFX

[gamer7804]

at least you are able to see both sides, I've really grown to love achievements, its like a metagame. Microsoft has added quests and makes it even more of a metametagame. I'd love to see nintendo get on board with an achievement system of some kind.

[rytlok]

No they don't achievements are stupid

[gamer7804]

you know you can turn off the notification of achievements and completely ignore them, so at the very least they add value to some people.

[Azurite]

Imho achievements should be in the games, not the consoles.

[jeki]

Yup, I just posted that before I read your comment.

[ElementX]

Are you talking about in-game only achievements? That idea sucks. I've played games where the only way you can see the achievements is to run the game and go to the achievements menu. There's no way to compare them to friends or see what percentage of players have gotten them.

[RizBiz]

The original Valkyria Chronicles had that. It was stupid. System-wide account-linked achievements are far superior.

[Amplitude]

why would anybody want that over a system-level achievement system?
I can't think of a single benefit tbh

[Teflon02]

Ratchet and Clank has it, called skill points. It's point dies when the games off. Atleast it being console wide allows you to keep your accomplishments. Account wide is the best way to do it. For ppl like me it adds alot. I may have actually 100 percent mario odyssey if it had a achievement list because it's just tedious for me. But the games not bad, it'll just give me motivation to complete the rest. As you're not really missing anything. Some games got like true endings and such like Nier where seeing the endings have a actual value so I'd do that either way. But fdefinitely system wide

[FallenAngel1984]

“This far into the Switch's life cycle, introducing a new achievements system would most likely annoy more players than it would appease.“

Trophies didn’t annoy PS3 gamers when it was implemented 1.5 years into the console’s lifecycle and standardized after its first 2 years.

Idk why it’d bother Switch users to get a similar feature later in its lifecycle.

[Teflon02]

right!? The ppl who care would be happy. They won't care about when it's implemented. Just gives a reason to replay games honestly lol. I've been hoping they do

[knickstr]

Nintendo usually runs a few generations late with features so be patient. Itll happen someday.

[Benjaminkno]

All this bitching about Nintendo being too “gimmicky” and they ironically want an “achievement system”

I’m pretty sure smash brothers introduced achievements first with literal ‘trophies’

They don’t need them for every game because it’s useless and only gives something for fanboys to bitch about.
Nobody didn’t buy cuphead because it didn’t have achievements

[Teflon02]

Achievements aren't a gimmick? It's a system to listen things you do in a game. Completionist and such benefit with these and such. If you don't get it, just ignore it.
I didn't buy cuphead on switch for exactly that reason. Buying multiplats on PS4 and PC for me has that benefit which is more important that portability for me. I own on PC and would rather with that. Same with Megaman X. I bought on PS4 originally then bought on PC. Also bought Crash on both PS4 and PC and skipped Switch because of it. CTR I'd have probably thought about buying on switch too. But definitely won't because of achievements. Even JRPGs. I buy on PS4 no hesitation over Switch because of it. You'll be surprised how much ppl actually do that. It doesn't stop me from buying games in general. But it'll definitely help me decide on where I'll buy it. Also, no fanboy is arguing over these systems. They use the one they have.

[jeki]

Why not just build achievements into the games themselves and make them as platform-independent as possible?

Steam's exclusive achievement system is anti-consumer because to participate you have to buy the game from Steam and use Valve Corporation's launcher.

[Teflon02]

Umm... Steam has a achievements system. If Epic doesn't want to add one. It's not making Steam anti consumer as they have no control over Epics store. It would make Epic anti consumer if anything as they're giving less options to the consumer. Games like uncharted give the achievements in game and system level. If the devs care, they do that as it makes sense to make the game keep track anyways.

[jeki]

If achievement systems were built into the games themselves there would be no need for an exclusive Steam system. That's all I was saying.

It's just another thing Valve Corporation does to keep people in their walled garden.

[bluebenjamin]

This is further proof Nintendo is not on n on the console war

[sirmerlyn]

Id rather play the games because theyre fun and not for trophies, but I can see how people would enjoy them.

[Thundercat77]

Even mobile games have trophies. The only reason Nintendo has an entry level network service is because they were forced by the competition not to stay irrelevant.

Nintendo is about milking Mario and Zelda more than innovating or integrating new services.

[CaitSith]

'Achievements' are dumb. I'm glad Nintendo hasn't implemented them. I like playing games without feeling pressured to 'achieve' something. Azurite has it correct: if they should implement it, put it in the games, not the console.

[RizBiz]

Why are you against additional content for free? That's just being stupid.

[CaitSith]

Clearly, you didn't read my comment hard enough. And don't put words in my mouth, I never said anything like that.

[Teflon02]

You're not pressured to do anything. You want ppl to have less features because you don't care about them? Tf is wrong with ppl

[CaitSith]

Don't you think you're reacting to my comment just a bit too negatively? It's a preference! If Nintendo decides to implement achievements to their games, I couldn't care less! Won't change how I play their games. I'll just disable the trophy notifications just like with my PS4.

Calm down, man.

[thesoftware730]

Would be nice..I have no idea why they haven't in recent years.

I remember back in the day, they claimed they didn't want to make people feel bad about not being able to achieve and achievement in game. It would make kids feel bad they claimed.

[Casepb]

People really still give a shit about achievements? I figured that was cool 9 years ago....

[Xavi4K]

didn't they say that it's going to be coming with switch online service??

[Mr Marvel]

I often won't buy a game if there are too many online trophies as I enjoy getting Platinums, so not having any trophies or achievements at all just means that I only buy exclusives on Switch. Anything multiplatform will be bought of PS4 (also because the PS4 Pro on my 4K TV looks 100x better than the shitty Switch ports).

[YoungBokchoy]

I’d get a Switch if they implemented achievements of some sort. It adds a sense of achievement and replay value to titles as well as objectives

[bluefox755]

Hell, even audible has achievements, get with the times Nintendo.

[djl3485]

No.

[lellkay]

Would be a good addition

[FernDiggidy]

I couldn't beat this on xbox but I did on switch. LOL

[Anon1974]

I've had a Switch since launch and I didn't even realize it didn't have achievements until just now.

[Segata]

No, it doesn't and they never will. Thankfully.