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PS3 Sales at 87.4 Million as of March 2017; Almost 1 Billion Units of PS3 Software Sold

For the first time in years, Sony has shared a sales update for the PlayStation 3. In yesterday’s financial report, where we learned about the PS4’s fantastic market performance, Sony also shared updated shipment numbers for their last console.

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Jin_Sakai2195d ago

So PS3 in fact sold more than Xbox 360 despite launching a year later and at a much higher price.

IMissJimRyan2195d ago (Edited 2195d ago )

Software sales are even more interisting. With 999,4 million PS3 has sold more games than Wii or DS.

JEECE2195d ago

Wii games sales tanked the last few years of the generation. If you look at a list of the system's best selling games, it's crowded with stuff from the early years, despite the larger install base later. Towards the end the Just Dance games were the only things selling major units.

meep3162194d ago

The wii actually has a good attach rate though, Nintendo just dropped support a little too early to beat the PS3 in that regard. That being said Nintendo wasn’t losing money on the hardware, so their priorities were a little different .

Marioraider182195d ago (Edited 2195d ago )

Also all the people that repurchased Xbox due to RRoD

RosweeSon2194d ago

Yeah at least 3 for me hence I wasn’t rushing out to test their hardware this Gen and sure it works at lot more reliable the library of games was is poor so glad I jumped ship.

execution172194d ago

I have a couple relatives that went through 7-9 360s because of the rrod and they didn't want to wait for a replacement, plus the arcade edition was relatively cheap

rainslacker2194d ago

I never got that. For me, one going bad is an anomaly. It happens with electronics sometimes. Two going bad...that's just where I say no more. If the breaks happen years apart after constant use, that's one thing, but to fail in such a short period of time, that's quite another. If the internet had been as robust as it is now back then, it would have been more of a problem for MS to contain, because people would be talking about it a lot more.

IRetrouk2194d ago

I remember you couldn't even mention red ring on n4g, bubbles popped and disagrees for days, my bubble count went down to one all because I dared to mention how bad the hardware was, I went through 5 originals, all Microsoft repaired but they should never have got away with such a defective device.

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Sophisticated_Chap2195d ago

It's to be expected. Sony has Japan, and they've done better outside of the U.K. over Microsoft. The PS3 was a beast, and in my opinion, that era, for both the PS3 and the Xbox 360, was the golden age of gaming, before micro-transactions and seasons passes became the norm, and when games were packed with content at launch.

Srhalo2195d ago

That was PS2 and before. The 360 was literally the start of all that crap, when Microsoft opened the door for DLC it was the beginning of the end.

Sophisticated_Chap2195d ago (Edited 2195d ago )

@ SrHalo

As someone who has been gaming since the early 80s, I disagree. The PS3/360 era had the best games, whether it's Uncharted (1,2 &3), Resistance (1 & 2), Gears of War (1,2 & 3), Rainbow Six Vegas (1 & 2), Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter (1 & 2), The Darkness, Metal Gear Sold 4, GTA 4, Portal 2, Left 4 Dead (1 & 2), Battlefield Bad Company (1 & 2), Battlefield 3, Battlefield 1943, Call of Duty 4, Callof Duty: World at War, Modern Warfare 2, CoD: Black Ops (1 & 2), Halo 3 & ODST, Alan Wake, Killzone (2 & 3), F.E.A.R. (1 & 2), Resident Evil 5, Motorstorm (1 & Pacific Rift), Burnout Paradise and so many more.

Things certainly got out of control right from the beginning of this generation, and with a few exceptions, game in this generation just didn't stand out from the last gen, at least not to me. There have been some good games, but on the whole, everything pales in comparison to last gen. PS2 had some great games too though, like the early Tony Hawk games, Tiger Woods PGA Tour Golf, the SOCOM series, Ghost Recon: Jungle Storm, the God of War series, Metal Gear Solid 2 & 3, Gran Turismo 3, Red Faction, and quite a few others.

Stanjara2194d ago

I see what you mean with the games. Yes, we haven't seen anything like it on consoles. Gears cover system, Oblivion map, Bioshoch changing abilities, Bordelands Fps Diablo. It was also start for dlc crap like Oblivion horse armor, FIFA cards, and all that is today, but they weren't designed to mess up single player part of the game. Now with the latest MK11... we are heading in the F2P mobile territory. It's sad, it really is.

sinspirit2195d ago

And, MS reports sales to everyone. Sony and Nintendo normally reports sales in consumers hands.

Srhalo2195d ago

What are you talking about?

Microsoft hasn't reported sales in 4 years.

sinspirit2195d ago

@SrHalo

Lol. Obviously. I don't think the disagrees realize this is how they report sales, if they do.

bmf73642194d ago

It was estimated hardware sales caught up right before the PS4 launch (marketing support with Gtav probably helped). Xbox had blockbusters like Halo and Gears pushing the 360 along with CoD helping via marketing, but outside of those IP's never had anything to to it (it's why the Xbox One has no good exclusives, especially since everythings on PC now). The PS3 had a full arsenal of exclusives ranging from Ratchet & Clank and Uncharted to Resistance and MGS4. There was something for everyone on PS3 and that was what drove the system in long term.

andibandit2194d ago

Who cares they're both dwarfed by the PS2, 158million

Max_Eckhardt2194d ago

But lost 3 billion unfortunately thanks to he high coast of the cell and blu ray drives

meep3162194d ago

Ya, but there were hardware revisions and many people switched because of red ring.

bluefox7552194d ago (Edited 2194d ago )

MS is not even in the same league as Sony in the console market, always been that way.

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Relientk772195d ago

Funny how the PlayStation console that sold the least still sold 87.4 million units. Very successful still

darthv722195d ago

Imagine what it could have done had the price not been so high at launch or difficult to program for for third parties.

TheColbertinator2195d ago

@darth

Yup. Could have been 88 million.

StormLegend2195d ago

It would most likely be ps2 numbers if it was $399 and came out before the 360.

BLow2195d ago (Edited 2195d ago )

@Travis It didn't need to come out before the 360. Remember they were both supposed to come out around the same time. PS3 got delayed because of the blue laser shortage for the Bluray. It was brand new back then.

If they launched at the same time it would have been a repeat of this gen. Wait I take that back. Sony would still have been in the lead but it would have been much closer than it is now. Besides RROD, the 360 was a great system. I just stopped playing after 3 RROD. I was done after that...

Godmars2902194d ago

If the Blu-ray/HD-DVD format "war" hadn't been a thing, the 360 hadn't launched a year before allowing for a price drop and there was only one model of 360 you mean.

Mr_Writer852194d ago

@darth

If the price had been the same as PS4 it wouldn't of mattered what developers couldn't do.

They would of learned quicker as it would of flew off the shelves.

It might of even done PS2 numbers as it would of been a super cheap blu-ray player.

andibandit2194d ago

@mr_writer85

I doubt that. Maybe more game companies would have been created, but most people dont have quicker kearning mode to activate on the fly.

rainslacker2194d ago (Edited 2194d ago )

You know. I learned CELL programming rather quickly. Maybe a day or two, with a few times in the process where I had some algorithm hiccups which required more time to work out. It's not really that complicated. And that was really early in my career, and with very little guidance. I was tasked to port some routines over from a PC build, and it required the use of CELL functions to make efficient.

It's not that complicated to do the actual coding, it's more that you have to think more about the algorithm, and how it's laid out, because that can be different than standard programming practicecs for RISC/CISC, but ultimately, it's not that hard either for any designer who is at least half way qualified.

I think the whole, "It's complicated", or "it's difficult" was used to avoid saying, "It's not as easy as half assing it with built in game engine routines".....which ended up coming anyways, and you know what....those devs were forced to learn that stuff anyways, because it's exactly the same thing we get with GPU compute now.

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PhoenixUp2195d ago

@ Travis

I’d rather Sony not have rushed their 7th gen to market like Microsoft did for theirs. Microsoft wanted to release before PS3 so bad they released a console with faulty hardware which resulted in one of the highest failure rates for a system. PS3 came out at the time it needed to and was better for it. It came with HDMI out of the box, Blu-Ray player, & built-in WiFi

All in all PS3 was a better built system and its value made it a lot of bang for the buck

rainslacker2194d ago

NVidia forced MS to release early. Or at least, MS didn't want to pay NVidia more for the chips required to make the OGXbox. MS could have delayed the release of the 360 for another year or more, but they were in a position where they would end up paying more to manufacture the OGXbox, at a point in the generation where people expected them to reduce the price of that console, and where Sony's own PS2 was already pretty damn cheap.

Despite my general disdain over many MS practices and decisions, I actually think they did what they had to do because of the deal they had with NVidia. I do think however, they should have remedied the problem that lead to the RROD, which they knew about before release. It may have delayed them a few months, but they would have saved a lot of money on the back end, and since Sony's system got delayed anyhow, it wouldn't have affected MS desire to release before the PS3.

There were many things left out of the 360 which become standard for the gen, and the reason games in general didn't take advantage of blu-ray storage was because MS stuck to DVD due to them releasing so early, and the lasers not being available. It's funny, if MS had waited and went with HDDVD, it may have actually been a relevant format war.

StormLegend2195d ago

The worst PS console selling over 80 million is insane.

IMissJimRyan2195d ago

It isnt the worst ps3. For it was the best. Online features and first party games.

PhoenixUp2195d ago

PS3 is my favorite PlayStation console

paintedgamer19842195d ago (Edited 2195d ago )

Ehh ps3 only slightly beats out the ps2 in my eyes. Im a Sony guy but even i can admit the 1st 2-3 years were pretty rough for the system.

The first game that came out to give me any shred of hope was MGS4 at the end of 2008 and im not a mgs fan but it was better than nothing.

Demons Souls would launch shortly there after and then UC2... but the whole 2 years leading up to end of 2008 into 2009 was every damn day articles saying that Sony was going bankrupt. Dont even get me started on how much better the 3rd party games like fear played on the 360. Like it wasnt even close like how at the beg of this gen we all poked fun how the xb1 games were 720 while ps4 were 900p or 900p vs 1080p... no... fear sounded, played, and ran much better on 360 than the ps3 counterpart. And thats the only 1 that stuck out as most 3rd partys ran like dog doo and mainly because of the cell processor and devs not be able to code for it.

The main reason i even got a 360 was to play better versions of third partys. But, by the time 2009 rolled around all was forgotten (mostly) and ps has been kicking ass ever since.

I was also about on my 3rd or 4th rrod 360 so that bridge was burnt to the ground. The only thing, is with ps3 and ps4 it took Sony 2-3 years to really get things cranking. I hope to god that not the case with ps5. Id die if by fall 2020 or soon after HZD2 launched at the very least!

DarXyde2195d ago

PS2 ran circles around PS3 for me. I think PS2 had more novel experiences and it felt like it had its own identity.

PS3 was eventually great, but I don't think it held a candle to PS2.

bluebenjamin2194d ago (Edited 2194d ago )

Ps4 is the worst Playstation console its a box that has been stripped down from what the dlna ps1 2 and 3 game playing multi audio support ,720p monster cpu called the cell more powerful than jag cpu the gpu was ok good enough to run the last of us 720 p , free online the list goes on Ps3 blows Ps4 out of the water in functionality.Ps4 is just the newer Playstation not an improved Playstation.what can ps4 do besides run last gen games in 1080p wow bigg difference and the framerate stayed in 7th gen.Ps4 was the fakest Playstation ever made but it sold a lot of units because people dont care they just want something new

Razzer2195d ago (Edited 2195d ago )

Wow. We finally know how many PS3s were actually sold in the end.

So it is official. PS3 outsold Xbox 360 last gen.

https://www.gamespot.com/ar...

Kribwalker2195d ago

you are quoting an article from 2014, while the 360 was still selling vs sales totals from 2017. There’s 3 years and games that still were released on the 360 (rise of the tomb raider in 2015, lots of cross gen games) that could have also added to sales numbers.

Now we have Sonys official numbers and would need MS to confirm

Razzer2195d ago

Nope. Official numbers are what they are. You will have to find some way to cope with this.

Hey look! MAUs!

DarXyde2195d ago

... you realize Persona 5 came out in 2017 on PS3 and PS4, right?

Kribwalker2195d ago

@darxyde

and these numbers are reported from 2017

DarXyde2194d ago

You're an odd duck, kribwalker.

Your rhetoric is pointless; there's a lot of benefit of the doubt you afford Microsoft here. You say, "well, we can't be sure" and yet, I'm feeling fairly confident that we do have the answer. Considering the fact that there was greater room for expansion in the US for Sony than Microsoft, there are more games you'd need a PS3 to play than an Xbox 360, and the fact that the gaming community in general widely accepts that it was close, but a year headstart + lower price tag was not enough to secure Microsoft second place, I'd wager they didn't beat the PS3 in sales, ESPECIALLY when they can't help themselves but brag without specifics when they outsell the competition one month. In the end, all Xbox 360 did was cut into Sony's massive market share, which they've largely taken back this generation anyway.

But ultimately, it doesn't matter. We don't need Microsoft to confirm a thing because they won't, and yet they did. This is part and parcel of who they are. If the Xbox 360 outsold PS3, they would've said as much because they can't help themselves. Their silence is pretty indicative.

gravedigger2194d ago (Edited 2194d ago )

MS abandoned X360 pretty fast and surely sales dropped off too.

IRetrouk2194d ago (Edited 2194d ago )

But what happened to your excuse when people were saying the ps3 had sold more and you were jumping on their comments throwing out those last reported numbers for xbox and quoting official this and that??? Krib you make me laugh man, You flip flop more than any other user on here.

The Wood2194d ago

Lol. Tortoise and the hare krib. The thing is Sony were still selling ps3's into the next gen. The numbers kept increasing. The decline in 360 sales started earlier probably due to the lack of support in the final 3rd.

RauLeCreuset2194d ago

Krib 76 days ago:

"@appocalypse
“'yeven though they still ended up in 3rd worldwide last Gen. Just think if they were "first."'

"This again
The last official numbers from either manufacturer has the xbox 360 ahead of the PS3, and until it’s otherwise reported officially, the PS3 was last. That’s not an opinion. That is a fact, based off of facts reported by both manufacturers"

https://n4g.com/comments/re...

"No crack just facts.

"360 hit 80 million in oct 2013, PS3 hit 80 in November 2013. 360 Hit 84 million in June 2014, PS3/PS4/Vita hit combined 100 million (PS4 10 million, Vita was 7-9 million leaving ps3 at 81-83 million) july 2014. Last Official Numbers from either side. "

https://n4g.com/comments/re...

Krib 44 days ago:

"@razzer
they hid the sales numbers of the PS3 and Vita after MS announced 84 million xbox 360 sales as well hiding it in a combined 100 million Ps4/PS3/Vita
https://m.ca.ign.com/articl...

"Sony hides it when it’s convient. They all have "

https://n4g.com/comments/re...

MasterCornholio2194d ago

Well Kribwalker according to you the PS3 outsold the 360.

rainslacker2194d ago

MS discontinued production of the 360 in April of 2016. So, that's only 2 years that we're missing from MS, not three. You generally don't report sales of your system much longer after you cease production, as eventually your supply to sell will run out. Sony discontinued in 2017, hence, why they report from 2017. Since they were roughly equal by the end of the gen it's safe to assume that Sony sold more since they had an extra year on the market, which only supports the idea that PS3 outsold 360 more often than not for the duration of the whole generation to be roughly equal to begin with.

Isn't extrapolation of data fun when paired with logic?

Italiano12345672194d ago

The 360 sold 85 million. U can go to ign and plenty other places. They had it all over twitter the other day of the best selling consoles.

TGGJustin2194d ago

Uh no Microsoft stopped making the Xbox 360 shortly after the Xbox One released. Hard to sell a lot of units when you aren't making them.

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PhoenixUp2195d ago

@ Krib

Microsoft doesn’t even reveal Xbox One hardware numbers anymore. I doubt they’d ever give us updated Xbox 360 numbers

Besides that it should be common sense that PS3 sold at a faster rate than Xbox 360 with launch aligned numbers. Don’t tell me after all these years you still think PS3 didn’t eventually overtake 360

Razzer2194d ago

Yep. Also have to take into account that Xbox One added BC in 2015 which further diminished the sales of 360.

MasterCornholio2194d ago

Well Kribwalker did say that Microsoft isn’t showing the numbers because they sold less than Sony.

GaboonViper2194d ago

I sometimes think dear old Krib is TimDog or Colt Eastwood.

Imalwaysright2194d ago (Edited 2194d ago )

Comparing sales from 2017 vs 2014 is intellectual dishonesty and for you to say that those are official numbers as if the 360 stopped selling in 2014 is pure bullshit. No one has to cope with anything because no one knows who sold the most units and what's more hilarious is that most likely none of you will ever know who was the 1st of the losers in the 7th generation.

Razzer2194d ago

I was referring specifically to Kribwalker. He does indeed have to find a way to cope with this. He has been yapping about how 360 outsold PS3 based on "official numbers" for some time. I was looking for the quotes, but RauLeCreuset already found them.

"The last official numbers from either manufacturer has the xbox 360 ahead of the PS3, and until it’s otherwise reported officially, the PS3 was last. That’s not an opinion. That is a fact, based off of facts reported by both manufacturers"
~krib

So that "intellectual dishonesty" was bred long before this new information was revealed. But you are correct that we will never know the true winner of second place last gen as MS will no longer reveal numbers.

RauLeCreuset2194d ago

LOL. You could apply that same logic to this gen. "Oh, MS hasn't reported sales in years. Guess we'll never know who came out ahead."

rainslacker2194d ago

While I generally agree with you, one could use these numbers as a way of extrapolating who likely won what.

Plus he was just calling out a single user, who has made it a habit of using official data as a weapon to claim MS the winner.

No one has to cope with anything, but some people seem to have a great need to prove that MS won last gen, and express that need often in the face of logical conclusion pointing elsewhere.

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4kgk762195d ago

So no Xbox console has never beat a PlayStation console in sales but Xbox fanboys think the next gen Xbox console going beat the ps5 in sales somehow.

porkChop2194d ago

No, Xbox has never beat PlayStation. They likely never will. Though if we're being honest, the 360 was still hugely successful. While the Wii was going after the casual gamers, Xbox managed to cut PlayStation's market share in half. That's no small feat, especially since they didn't have much of a foothold in Japan.

IRetrouk2194d ago

How did Microsoft cut sonys market share in half? First there were 3 consoles that came out that gen not just the ps3 and 360, the Wii took more of the market share than anyone for that gen. second, each gen up till now has been a fresh start, Microsoft didnt take half of the ps2 market share did they? And untill the ps3 and Wii released Microsoft had that market all to themselves.. still came last.

andibandit2194d ago (Edited 2194d ago )

@IRetrouk

maybe he meant sales.
Anyway the Wii isn't all that relevant in this case because it appealed to a large group of people who arent generally in the gaming market, heck I remember seeing people in retirement homes playing the Wii.
And no MS did not have that market to themselves, the PS2 was still there along with PC, and I know alot of people were holding out to see what Sony would come up with.
If you could rewind the clock back to 2005 and ask who would win the console race, im pretty sure most people would bet on Sony, however when the dust had settled the following had happened:

sales:
Xbox 24M ---> X360 80M
PS2 158M ---> PS3 88M

I dont know what it looks like to you, some see a huge triumph for PS....I see sales halved.

porkChop2194d ago

@andibandit

Thank you. That's pretty much what I was trying to say.

IRetrouk2194d ago (Edited 2194d ago )

Wow the Wii gets discounted because it appealed to a wider demographic and sold better?? Lol ok whatever man, never heard such nonsense in my life.
You want to say the ps2 was still on market? And that the 360 didnt have the first year and a half to itself? Ok if that's the case then surely we should just add the ps2 and 3 sales together? But if we do that then how are you going to spin Sony losing 50 percent market share? Those ps2s didnt go anywhere, how was anything lost? And how are we going off previous gens numbers even though they dont crossover? No sorry it doesn't work like that, one gens sales isn't guaranteed to translate to the next, each gen has always been classed as it's own. Utter nonsense from both of you.

porkChop2194d ago

@IRetrouk

"Those ps2s didnt go anywhere, how was anything lost? And how are we going off previous gens numbers even though they dont crossover?"

Sony/PS2 owned 77% of the market share during the sixth generation. In the seventh generation they were brought all the way down to 32%. I know you're intelligent enough to see that's a huge loss of the market.

And the Wii is being "discounted" because it was literally going after a new market. Nintendo wasn't going after core gamers for the most part. They weren't eating into Sony or Microsoft's userbases. The Wii was hugely successful, but it didn't have that much of an effect on Sony or Microsoft.

rainslacker2194d ago

All three together grew the market. But, I'd say Nintendo had more effect on Sony's market share. MS would have cut into their install base, which is a different metric. Market share is the percentage of a market that one company or product occupies, while install base is a measure of actual units sold.

IRetrouk2194d ago

No regardless of who the Wii was aimed at it was a gaming console, its sales count as much as sonys or microsofts. And yes it had an effect on both Microsoft and Sonys sales, it was a competitor.
Again it was a new gen, completely new market where everybody started from 0, Microsoft did not take 50 percent of sonys market share, it's a false statement.

Sophisticated_Chap2194d ago

@ porkchop

I wouldn't put that much effort into posting logical sense, as you are doing here. It will go completely over everyone's heads, except for a small minority.

bluebenjamin2194d ago (Edited 2194d ago )

Nintendo wii didn’t count because wii u didn’t count and switch still dont count this is a fight between Playstation abs Xbox fanboyism Nintendo not in this club

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RosweeSon2194d ago

Next Xbox be lucky to beat dreamcast/Wii U at this rate

rainslacker2194d ago (Edited 2194d ago )

Yes, because MS will release it's games on Game pass, has their games on PC, and has a service which doesn't even require the console. Hence, X2, wins.

MS is expanding it's brand, which is fine. But it also sends a message that they aren't as invested in the console market as they once were. I remember when they stopped releasing games on PC because they thought it would drive console sales. And that makes sense. Sony is doubling down on exclusive games and building quite the reputation for them this gen. Probably better than they've ever done really. They're also being very vocal about how the traditional model is important to them, and people are taking notice. Despite what Sony may do wrong from time to time, what they're doing right is building faith in their brand.

DarXyde2194d ago

No they don't. They have given up challenging Sony in terms of sales. It is about most active users now.

In that metric, I have no doubt that they'll outnumber Sony, primarily because their service is on more platforms than PS Now or Plus. Nintendo being used as a vehicle into Japan is yet another way for them to bolster their numbers.

I think it is delusional at this juncture to believe Microsoft will sell the most hardware, and they know that too, but they're also not above bragging about an NPD over Sony either. I will not be supporting Microsoft in their vision for the future, so what they do now is not my concern unless it impacts what I get with Sony and Nintendo.

Sophisticated_Chap2194d ago (Edited 2194d ago )

I don't think anyone has suggested that Xbox will beat PlayStation in hardware sales next gen. Microsoft has changed the way they are doing business, with Xbox Live being the main focus, not simply console hardware, which is a low profit margin game.

What rumors are suggesting however, is that the next Xbox will be more powerful than the PS5, and probably more expensive also. Even after the next Xbox Launches, I think the Xbox One X will be Microsoft's main console, since it is effective at 4K resolution, and it will more than likely see a price drop when either the next Xbox comes out or when the PS5 launches, whichever comes first. The next Xbox will be Microsoft's premium offering, and it will be interesting to see just how powerful this machine will be. If the PS5 is rumored to be 8TFLOPS, then maybe we would see a 10TFLOP Xbox Two? Either way, guaranteed it will cost more than the PS5.

It will be interesting to see if Sony continues to produce the PS4 Pro as their budget option to the PS5, or if they will go all-in on the PS5 and completely abandon the current hardware within 2 years of the PS5's launch, similar to what they did with the PS3.

Razzer2194d ago (Edited 2194d ago )

"I don't think anyone has suggested that Xbox will beat PlayStation in hardware sales next gen."

lol....someone hasn't seen all the xbox will "dominate" next gen articles.

"It will be interesting to see if Sony continues to produce the PS4 Pro as their budget option to the PS5, or if they will go all-in on the PS5 and completely abandon the current hardware within 2 years of the PS5's launch, similar to what they did with the PS3."

Wrong. Sony didn't stop producing PS3s until 2017. A year after Microsoft stopped producing Xbox 360.

https://www.eurogamer.net/a...
https://www.theverge.com/20...

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italiangamer21h ago

Well Sony never said that, the other camp did and we all know how that went.

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Profchaos2d ago

As someone who travels for work I still care about portable systems.

I have found using remote play in a hotel room is an excellent experience in a major city as I've got my console hard wired to a gigabit connection at home however it's not perfect if power trips the console tends to go to the repair section and can't be booted remotely so it's a annoying call to family to power it on for me.

A hotel out of town or regionally though that can cause havok for remote play as I'm always on 5g using it hotel wifi is never good enough for a solid remote play session.

But leaving a stable location and getting onto a plane or train and there's little to no chance of a good experience with remote play thats where something like the switch 2 will really shine for me personally long haul flights are exhausting and one of my most hated things the switch has been invaluable for me and I'll absolutely be upgrading

Goodguy011d 9h ago

Nintendo has always done it the best, handheld is in their genes. I do wish their dock could be like an egpu though and it make it much more powerful, it's a bit harder for me to play portable now for some odd reason, love just sitting on the couch with a big screen and controller. And ofc always great to have the portable option and for me it's best for smaller games.

jznrpg1d 7h ago

I was hoping for a little more than 540p upscaled

UltimateOwnage1d 5h ago

IMO, 540P upscaled in portable mode to a 1080P screen using DLSS on the tensor cores will likely extend battery life using a lower TDP and provide much better anti-aliasing and similar clarity compared to native 1080P with med/low AA at a higher TDP. It’s just a better way to use a mobile chipset. That’s not a flaw or weakness, it’s a key benefit for the portable design of the platform.

repsahj1d ago

Lol, even the impressive upscaling feature of Switch 2 can now spin to a negative one.

jznrpg4h ago(Edited 4h ago)

Switch 1 was hitting 720p and above that with no upscale, so why can’t they have a higher res and upscale it more

repsahj3h ago

@jznrpg
Because of that even the current gen games will now run on switch 2 that looked as good and with decent framerate as the current gen consoles.

Do you watch Nintendo's hands on preview for switch 2? LOL.

badz14917h ago

because aside from Nintendo's own games which have their dedicated fanbase, portability is the only other thing it has going for it. Nintendo will be eliminated faster than xbox if they ever decide to do a dedicated home console again. going the hybrid way is the only way left for them and they are lucky they dominated the portable market all those years ago. imagine the power of the Switch 2 as a console this day and age with the same price as PS5. they will be the laughing stock of the market.