Sekiro Shadows Die Twice pre-review: Has Bloodborne ruined everything?

Sekiro Shadows Die Twice has one significant problem: it's not Bloodborne.

[TheProfessional]

Please no more bloodborne or dark souls style simplistic combat trash with damage numbers. I'd rather have fluid and responsive controls. Hack and slash combat is a million times better than the awful and dated combat in bloodborne. If this game isn't like that then it's a major selling point, not a flaw. Look at all these bandwagon battle royale, looter shooter or "souls like" games that just shamelessly copy, isnt it better to do something different?

[BoneMagnus]

Ummm...Bloodborne/Dark Souls doesn’t have damage numbers...did you even play Bloodborne or Dark Souls?

[l33t_haxx0r]

Um I'm playing dark souls remastered right now and I see damage numbers when I hit enemies.. are you smoking crack?

[Traecy]

Bloodborne & Dark Souls display damage numbers when you're striking a enemy.

[BoneMagnus]

I stand corrected!

The damage indicator is under the enemy health bar. I guess I noticed it before, but it isn’t as distracting as some games that have numbers all over the place.

My bad!

[AnthonyDavis]

Bloodborne is the game of the generation, and that’s a fact.

[BlackTar187]

i think you are negative in every single post.

[SCW1982]

One simple question? WTF are you talking about, have you even played a Soulsborne game?

[isarai]

You've never actually played any of these games have you? none of the games ever had damage numbers, and the controls are very responsive, they are just not as fast as say Ninja Gaiden. But there's no way you'd be able to beat bosses like Father Gascoigne if the controls weren't responsive. Also the combat is pretty much the opposite of "simplistic" sure there's not a huge list of combos, but the complexity comes from reading your enemies and responding accordingly, i dare you to button mash in these games, you'd die on the first "gimme" enemy.

[Traecy]

I just checked some YouTube videos because it's been a while since I've played Bloodborne but BB & Dark Souls do display numbers when you're striking an enemy.

[isarai]

well you see their health bar, and then above the health bar tells you how much damage you've done in that combo. It's not like other games where every hit has numbers flying out of the enemy's head.

[NarutoFox]

Bloodborne is a Beast. I don't even think you played it and just came in to troll the game😁

[SilverDemon]

If you don't like the style/genre of the game then dont buy it
Not every game should be made for casuals, dumbass

[nucky64]

wow. do you play games? you think the combat in bloodborne is "dated"; but, the "hack and slash" style has been around MUCH longer. btw - what damage numbers are you talking about in the souls/bloodborne games??

[jznrpg]

The Professional .....ss

[Thundercat77]

The profesional troll 😂

[DVAcme]

You must feel lonely, being so wrong all the time.

[NewsForSnowflakes]

Make up your mind. You like Anthem according to your other comments. Seems to me that you enjoy looter shooters and "trash with damage numbers".

[Traecy]

LOL!! Wrong!!

[drunkenspy007]

So you would rather jam on buttons and hope for the best? This game ain't for you then as it requires some skill.

[salmonade]

You obviously have no idea what you're talking about

[Sirk7x]

Took a look at your comment history. If you're not just unabashedly trolling, you should reflect on your hobbies and general attitude. It's not healthy, and is indicative of unhappiness if you enjoy upsetting others. Most trolls are miserable people, and studies have shown much evidence for this. Have a nice day.

[RememberThe357]

You do know the DMC5 just came out right?

[Dragonscale]

Bloodborne is still one of the best games this gen and the Souls games are superb tbh. So you think that every action game needs the combat to be like Bayonetta or dmc but yet when something is actually different you cry about it, and anyhow Bloodborne's combat is some of the most fluid and visceral out there. What a hypocrite lol.

[bluebenjamin]

Thanks bro I bought bloodbourne when I had a Pro just because of all the comments I was reading about how awesome it is,I got bored so easy it just was not as fun as Ninja Gaiden 2 on Ps3 and 360 hell i even enjoyed ninja gaiden graphics more and its 7th gen

[Muzikguy]

Bloodborne simplistic? Strange to complain about clones too when there haven't been many. From Software makes these kinds of games well. No problem with that. I'd take their style over hack and slash any day. They did do something different and continue to do so.

[frostypants]

Simplistic combat? Now you're just trolling. Poorly. You clearly never played Bloodborne.

[Germaximus]

lol Wow so I'm not alone.

[william_cade]

because mashing buttons is way better. They both have their place. I prefer timing and spacing, while some prefer mashing buttons.

[GameStallion]

You have no idea what you’re talking about, do you?

[bouzebbal]

Lol so much bull in one place.. And you don't want those games just don't buy them

[Edito]

You don't know what you are talking about.

[ChiefofLoliPolice]

Uhh... Yeah those 171 dislikes should tell you something. Did you even play either of those two games...?

[Tankbusta40]

Bloodborne didnt ruin the Dark Souls Remastered for me...so I doubt it will ruin it for this

[Movefasta1993]

that's because dark souls 1 is the best souls game

[Palitera]

Demon's Souls, by its atmosphere and tendency mechanics, rips everything else apart.

[Movefasta1993]

I think demon souls has the best atmosphere and dark souls 1the best level design and bosses.

[goldwyncq]

Demon's Souls has the best soundtrack but Dark Souls wins in the gameplay department.

[PeaSFor]

1Demons Souls
2BloodBorne
3DarkSouls
4DarkSouls3
5Darksouls2

thats it.

[Babadook7]

@peas

Unless your a pc only or Xbox only souls fan. Otherwise ya pretty much.

[l33t_haxx0r]

I agree the remastered has ruined DS1 for me to. Forgot how annoying some parts are lol

[starchild]

Everything I've seen about Sekiro leads me to think I will enjoy it even more than From Software's previous games. The combat system, traversal and mystical feudal Japanese setting all seem more appealing to me than anything that has come before.

[savedsynner]

Agreed. The Souls formula has become a tad stale. Dark Souls 3 honed the formula to near perfection and as great as the game was, it's essentially Demon's Souls with a tighter combat system,better graphics and a ton of nostalgia.

The combat in Sekiro does look souls-ish but if feels more action orientated, which makes sense because this is an action game, not an rpg.

[melons]

Ew, the Express.

[BlaqMagiq1]

Bloodborne didn't ruin anything. I can still play any other Souls style games just fine.

[nucky64]

agreed.

[DVAcme]

Making this article look stupid:
-The guy is comparing Bloodborne's atmosphere and lore to Sekiro's saying Bloodborne's is better. How the hell would he come to that conclusion when we're barely aware of what Sekiro's story is about and we haven't seen the most out-there elements yet.
-The guy is praising Bloodborne's combat as intense and in your face when we've already seen videos explaining Sekiro's fighting system and it's even MORE mobile and option-heavy than Bloodborne's.

Bloodborne is an absolute masterpiece, to be sure, but from what I've seen, comparing it to Sekiro is apples and oranges because of how drastically different Sekiro is gameplay-wise.

[nucky64]

i loved all the souls games and bloodborne was amazing. that said, i'm still excited for sekiro and buying it day1.

[jznrpg]

Well I am not expecting Bloodborne so this should be fine. We know it has some similarities but it also has a lot of differences in gameplay. Now if it was Bloodborne 2 I would expect Bloodborne. I am hoping for remaster of Demon’s Souls first though ?!?

[metabolicfrolic]

So this was just an article to stroke the author's hard-on for Bloodborne. Ok, check! Bloodborne is incredible, but Sekiro is gonna be completely different. Can't even compare the two.

[jznrpg]

Yeah . From Software clearly stated this will be a lot different from Bloodborne or Souls so i don’t understand the confusion. I love Bloodborne but I can love this game too if it’s totally different . Hopefully I like it for what it is . It looks really good to me

[Traecy]

Entirely 2 different styles of games,no comparison.

[dennigo]

this has got to be one of the worst articles on n4g. a Pre-review wth is this

[drunkenspy007]

It's a brand new game and won't ruin shit. Play bloodborne if you're so concerned, or, maybe, crazy thought, try out something new.

[Drakul]

Bloodborne II please...

[Thundercat77]

Bloodborne is my favorite souls game. That gothic style, the amazing music and that feeling you get after killing a beast and you are totally soaked on blood is something I have never experience in other games.

With that said, BB doesn't stop me from enjoying a new take in the From formula. I pre ordered Sekiro and expect to enjoy it.

I still want Bloodborne 2.

[salmonade]

Just treat is as a different game, because it is. Bloodborne is awesome and I'm sure Sekiro will be too. Chill man

[Villain528]

Lol BB is fire. Stop the tweaking

[Vanfernal]

You're basically comparing a Tenchu game with the Soulsborne games.

[Uglyday]

I will be playing on PC with an Xbox controller so from a purely tactile experience I won’t think of Bloodbourne at all.

[KwietStorm_BLM]

Well I don't need it to be Bloodborne. The combat mechanics look great. The game looks like more of a modern Tenchu to me than any Souls game, and that's completely fine with me.

[savedsynner]

This has got to be one of the silliest articles I've seen. Bloodborne was a great game but Dark Souls 3 was arguably even better. Plus Sekiro is NOT a souls game. It's not even an rpg. Like it for what it is, not that you want a Bloodborne sequel.

Devil May Cry 5 is a good game, and I don't like it any less because the director could have made Dragon's Dogma 2 instead(which would have been my preferred choice).

[froy402]

I'm glad this isn't bloodborne 2 only because i want bloodborne 2 on ps5 ide buy it day 1 no questions asked, my personal favorite game ever is bloodborne and I've played all the souls games

[Smokehouse]

Didn’t play bloodborne so I’m good.

[SpinalRemains138]

That actually means you aren't, but you can enjoy Sekiro either way.

[DVAcme]

Lol, awesome burn, bro XD

[AK91]

What?

[343_Guilty_Spark]

NiOH was 100x better than BloodShart

[SpinalRemains138]

As a lover of both games, I disagree. While NiOH was amazing, BB was just as difficult and has the same level layouts and co-op/multiplayer.

They're similar. Bloodborne's style and mechanic of regaining life while countering is awesome.

[343_Guilty_Spark]

Graphics are terrible

[carcarias]

What is this trash article? It's not even a preview or 'pre-review' as it says. It's like he's just some guy whose looked up the differences in mechanics and then wants to create a slightly sensationalist opinion piece. It's hard to tell if he's even really played Sekiro. He then goes on about how Bloodbourne is almost perfect and therefore this game won't be as good.....well, possibly, maybe. What sort of pointless speculation is this?

More to the point, From Software have done 4 Souls games and Bloodbourne so I'm not surprised they want to try something different. If they want to do another Bloodbourne style game then it'll probably be a sequel.

I myself haven't played Bloodbourne but a couple of people I know who loved the Souls games couldn't gel with the combat of BB or its world so maybe this game will be suit them better.

[Al_Simmons]

I am hyped yet scared of this game. The combat isn't strict like the other titles by From Software however it'll be hard.

[MakieCoco]

Express.co.uk. Home of the daily trash content and fake news. It is one of the WORST sites around. Please don't support them. I don't know how they are always on top of Google searches with their clickbait content and blatant fake news.

[Realms]

Why does every game have to be compared? I platinum both Bloodborne and Nioh if this comes close to either of those games it's a win and no those games aren't the same similar but not the same.

[william_cade]

Bloodborne is one of the best games this gen and possibly in history, but it hasn't ruined any game especially Sekiro coming up. In Sekiro we can jump and the parry/blocking system looks like a step forward.

[Kyech]

Are you f**** kiding me? The "pré-review" of a game is criticizing it fot not being another game? What a childish article.

I loved all those games, you have to judge them by their own merit, who hire those fuckers?

[FanboysKiller]

Obvious troll is obvious.

[Pancit_Canton]

Nah. Bloodborne made every Soul's game a lot better actually. Do the same thing and get rid of your shield and stop blocking. Evasion ftw.

[DVAcme]

Update: Sekiro is crushing it in reviews and this guy looks even more like a complete moron.