From Eurogamer: "At this year's GDC, there's one topic ruling the conversation; streaming services, and the arrival of Google as a player in what's now become a very tangible space. How long ago it now seems from the comically messy launch of OnLive, or from when Microsoft's 'power of the cloud' mantra was a stick used to beat it during the difficult early years of the Xbox One."
Techradar writes: "The upcoming game from RPG veterans ATLUS was originally announced at the Xbox Games Showcase as part of E3 2023, leading fans to infer that the title would only be available on Microsoft consoles when it releases in 2024.
However, a new trailer from SEGA Korea has confirmed that the title will be coming to PS5, PS4, and Steam in addition to Xbox Series X|S and Xbox One."
What smoke and mirrors? Console manufacturers don't include competitor's logos in their trailers. It's no different from the PS Showcase where almost every game was multiplatform but only showed the PS5 logo.
Smoke and mirrors is the fact that ms denied permission to SEGA/Atlus to rapidly announce those games are coming to PlayStation too. Something Sony didn't do with the games of their showcase where obviously childish ms was quick to remind people that those games were coming on xbox too.
Just going to add that there was ZERO mention of Metaphor: ReFantazio coming to the PlayStation in any of the press releases I received from Atlus. I also reached out multiple times after the Xbox showcase about the game coming to PlayStation. If anyone is at fault, it's Atlus failing to communicate it was coming to other platforms. It's not like Xbox would have told them not to reveal that afterward unless it was a timed exclusive.
That page also doesn't exist anymore, so Sega Korea pulled it for some reason....
@ italiangamer
So exactly like when Sony failed to mention that games like GT7, Forbidden West, Miles Morales, and GoW Ragnarok would also be coming out for the PS4 and led their fans to believe that those games are current gen exclusives for months?
@shadowhaxor
Xbox makes other companies keep Playstation availablity out of the news when they are featured in there showcases regularly.
Microsoft paid for reveal embargos. They did it last year too for the P3-P5 ports.
I don’t know why Ms doesn’t grow out of their childish PR when it comes to Xbox. They talk like they aren’t in competition with PlayStation and are instead doing their own thing yet
Right after Sonys event they had to let everyone know of certain games also coming to Xbox yet only a few weeks later hold their own event where they buy timed exclusive announcement trailers
Paying publishers money to make sure game release information regarding other platforms won’t be announced till 72 hours after the showcase and during this time trying to create a fake narrative that some games are exclusives
Even people on social media and YouTube were saying how Ms secured exclusives. For a trillion dollar company to act like this against a billion dollar company is beyond ridiculous
I don't think it was misleading.
Microsoft is the master of doublespeak and veiled statements, so when it isn't used, you can very good and well assume it isn't exclusive to their ecosystem. Good example was Rise of the Tomb Raider: they literally said "coming exclusively to Xbox in 2015". I knew immediately, "Game's timed." When something is properly exclusive, Microsoft says so unequivocally.
Likewise, as soon as I saw Atlus, I knew there was no way they'd be skipping PlayStation. It literally wouldn't make sense for this kind of game to skip it in favor of Xbox. Shin Megami Tensei, sure, but that's because that's the "Nintendo Atlus game".
I don't know anyone who thought that a game developed for Xbox by Atlus would miss PS5.
If you really believed that a JRPG would be an Xbox exclusive in the current generation then I don't know what to tell you.
Well, Octopath Traveler was kept away from Playstation, so it have happened, but sure, that was last gen which makes even less sense.
It's kind of a death sentence to release a JRPG on just Xbox, so it made sense that other platforms would be announced.
When was it ever suggested to be exclusive?
Not even talking about a graphically challenging title.
I hope Sony went on Twitter to let the world know most of those games were also coming to ps also
To be fair I still think ms showed off better 1st party and third party games.
Would have been shockingly surprised if this was an exclusive title. Looks definitely like something that I will get into. Looking forward to getting more details about the game.
Watch this sell 85% on PS5.
At least it has a chance on other platforms unlike some other titles though...
Yeah, if it were to sell 1 millions copies total, probably only 5-10k would be on Xbox at most.
MS paid for a couple day advertisement exclusive again heh.
PS5 physical for me
Couldn't hit desired $99-$129 price point.
I know any of their xbo units and series line can do streaming but they want something small like the PSTV was. And obviously something better than the stadia setup. Given the price of regular controllers is $50-60... that seems to be half the cost alone.
Yea, many underestimated the cost of a controller, it's quite expensive, even more so a controller inside a portable device. Chinese devices for retro & emulation with better controller & build cost quite significantly higher than it's cheap counterpart although the specs are quite similar.
“Phil Spencer says Xbox shelved game streaming box because it cost too much“
Aka we shelved it because Stadia failed.
I'm kinda surprised they couldn't get this down to $99. Really all it needed to be, was a streaming stick w/ bluetooth with a controller in the box. That should be more than doable for $99
Chinese retro & emulation devices company might sell you $99 but i don't think it will be Microsoft/Sony's build quality.
Yeah but this isn’t running anything intense. It’s not much different from a TV streaming stick.
It looks like they went for more of a set too box setup which is probably where the cost comes in - probably has a ‘proper’ processor etc
@orchard maybe they couldn't bring themselves to deploy their software on a mini Linux kernel like all the other streaming sticks do. Windows everywhere. I remember reading about the Xbox one being two windows instances (1 for the UI, 1 for the games) managed by a hypervisor. Not a lean architecture
@crazy Good point. It’s probably running Windows and needs a reasonably beefy CPU, heck I bet they can’t even run ARM in the thing - Windows on ARM is still a pretty bad experience compared to x86-64 Windows (which also isn’t exactly a great experience…)
They’re still using the dual OS setup you mentioned on the Xbox Series too. System OS and Game OS.
It is slower, especially if you’re in the Game OS and have to make cross VM calls to the system OS. It does give them an extra level of protection though, and is likely the reason they haven’t been jailbroken while Switch and PS4/5 have.
@crazy, windows is the user interface for consumers and businesses. MS themselves has used linux based systems for various other things, including their cloud based blade servers. They arent above using linux where it fits, they are even invested in its future development.
We here at Dadisajoke are running a video series on Atari arcade games that need to get the recharged treatment for the new Atari VCS.
This game brings back lot of memories of drunken nights, trying to get a high score. Now it's time for RoadBlasters to get a modern facelift and a rocking sound track!
Played this all the time on the NES. Almost feels like a hidden gem as I hardly ever see it talked about.
There was a convenience store with this arcade cabinet. I rode my bike across town just to play every weekend. Good memories of this game.
I suggested to Playground Games that this should be horizon dlc. Loved it in the arcade and on my Lynx
“A broader philosophical question - some people see cloud gaming as the death of console, or the start of it. Is it that extreme?
Kareem Choudhry: It's not that extreme at all! I've been building consoles for 15 years - we're not getting out of the console business, we spoke about it in our xCloud videos. We love our consoles, we love that business, and we're super proud to have the most powerful console out on the market place today and that leadership position we hope to retain going foward. And I also believe your best premium experience is going to be dedicated hardware running under your TV in your living room. It's an 'and' conversation, not an 'or' conversation. Everyone loves to jump to the death of consoles, and I think it makes a great headline, but we don't think that way at all.”
But i thought MS wants to kill off consoles 😉
“How long ago it now seems from the comically messy launch of OnLive, or from when Microsoft's 'power of the cloud' mantra was a stick used to beat it during the difficult early years of the Xbox One.”
So many people got suckered into believing the powah uv teh clowd.
I still don’t think you’ll see as many games using it as extensively as Microsoft wanted it to even into next gen
Game streaming to me - will be the end of 30 years gaming. I cannot stand this forced trend of not physically owning things you buy. That includes digital games! Look at the state of those, full of DRM, MTs and Paywalls. It's a losing battle.
5mins away from Google gdc 2019 announcement
Poor Xbox brand....