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Halo Infinite's Long Development Explained, 343 Considered Doing a “Halo 5.5” on Xbox One

Halo fans haven’t got a new game since 2015’s Halo 5: Guardians, and, unfortunately, the next game in the series won’t be here for some time yet. Halo Infinite has been announced, but the game is currently without a release date – it likely won’t arrive until 2020, at the earliest. So, what’s the holdup exactly?

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Fluttershy771885d ago

Oh please no... Don't release a Halo 5.5 that would be lazy... Do it the right way; It can't be that hard, it is an awesome franchise... Stay away from the easy path: treat the IP with respect, don't try to over milk it, take good care of all the aspects that make a great game (all of them not just the ones you think will give you money). Don't try to make just another generic sci-fy shooter; try to blow everyone's mind... Because that was Halo in the past: the best damn game I've ever experienced... That should be your goal

Kribwalker1885d ago

Luckily if you read the article you would see they didn’t want to do that in the end

““When we [released] Halo 5, there were talks about, could we get another Halo out in two years? So, we did look at, I’d call it a ‘Halo 5.5,’ or a ‘Halo 6 ODST’ type of thing. A smaller game. We just investigated. Phil and I had a really good discussion on, ‘Where do we want Halo to go?’ If we really want Halo to be something for the next 10, 20 years, we have to do the work. If you want another game, we can do that, but […] my concern was, if you did something like that, I don’t think Halo would do well after that. You can’t put out a half-baked game”

Fluttershy771885d ago (Edited 1885d ago )

Yeah I did read that.
I wonder what Ross thinks about Halo 5?
Do you think when he said that to Phil he felt that Halo 5 was a half-baked game?, That 343 somehow endangered the franchise, and that they definitely could not repeat the same mistake in the future?

Rude-ro1884d ago

Reading words has less to do with reality when it comes to Microsoft.
Crackdown 3 was delayed to ensure the best product they could provide... and look at that winner.
What OP is saying is the very plea from all the fans. Done right, consoles will sell. The franchise is special, or was as of late. Take it back. Make a campaign worthy of another console push like with the 360. That’s what we all want. Fans or anti fans alike can not argue against a well made halo.
The faith in Microsoft is the issue per their action and over use of words.

zeetheron1884d ago (Edited 1884d ago )

Bonnie Ross is not a he. "Yeah I did read that. 
I wonder what Ross thinks about Halo 5? 
Do you think when he said that to Phil he felt that Halo 5 was a half-baked game?, That 343 somehow endangered the franchise, and that they definitely could not repeat the same mistake in the future?" Maybe read a little more?

Zeref1884d ago

"it can't be that hard"

….Has never developed a game before^

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spicelicka1884d ago

Honestly I wouldn't have minded Halo 5.5 as long as Halo 6 was still being worked on at the same pace with the same resources, meaning they have a separate studio do something like ODST 2. Only because I can only live without Halo was for so long and the drought is killing mee.

"Because that was Halo in the past: the best damn game I've ever experienced"

Agreed!

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EddieNX 1885d ago

Not even bored of Halo 5s multiplayer yet. It's the shooting game for me.

KaiPow1885d ago

Yeah, gimme more forge stuff in 5 and I'll be happy for another couple years

TK-661885d ago (Edited 1885d ago )

The multiplayer in 5 did a lot of good for the series. The issue is the campaign right now. What we need is a blend of the story telling in Halo 2: Anniversary/Halo Wars 2 with the level design of Halo 3 and we'll have one of the best FPS shooter campaigns of the generation.

EddieNX 1885d ago (Edited 1885d ago )

Agreed. I mean it's entertaining on legendary and what not but it's not as good as past campaigns so I hope they get that right!! The multiplayer is so good though.

The multiplayer in 5 is 10/10
The campaign is 7.5/10

EddieNX 1884d ago

Ricegum , sorry for expressing my love for Halo in a Halo article , how in appropriate of me!!!

Halo is the sole reason I chose Xbox over PlayStation this gen.

timotim1884d ago

Halo 5's MP is one of the best MP games of the generation...easy. That's saying something considering all the MP battle royal games that have caught fire recently.

EddieNX 1884d ago (Edited 1884d ago )

Absolutely , the gameplay is quite simply perfect and imo, better than every other shooter. I love.the ridiculous variety of weapons on warzone.

It looks truly gorgeous on the X at native 4K 60FPS HDR also!

crazyCoconuts1884d ago

How is the warzone stuff faring? Still active and popular vs. the standard arena matches? I played for a few months after launch but don't have it anymore.

EddieNX 1884d ago

I'm not struggling to find any, even ranked at my high level. There still must be hundreds of thousands playing, it is Halo after all...

danny8181884d ago

i consider it one of the best in the series! so much fun and competitive even till this day

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PhoenixUp1885d ago

I’d hate for them to take so long to develop this game and it doesn’t end up being the best Halo game of all time undisputedly

TK-661885d ago (Edited 1885d ago )

Hate to break it to you but no game in any major series is the best of all time "undisputedly".

Sherif1291884d ago

Call of Duty 4 would like to disagree with your statement.

TK-661884d ago

@sherif129

You think I can't find a number of people that disagree with you? Here's one list that disagrees with you: https://uk.ign.com/articles...

Hardly undisputed if one article and its comment section are all I need to back up my statement.

StrengthInNumbers1885d ago

the length of development does not determine how good a game'll turn out to be

Xb1ps41884d ago

No it doesnt.. but it at the very least shows promise by them taking the needed extra effort.

King_Noctis1884d ago

If that is the standard for every games then the sequel for most game would be disappointments

mandingo1884d ago

Honestly this game could be amazing but no matter what it cant beat halo 2/3 the nostaglia alone for those games is too much to overcome.

Sirk7x1884d ago

Gonna be hard for anyone to ever top Halo 3. That game was a damn masterpiece.

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obidanshinobi1884d ago (Edited 1884d ago )

It'll be a GAAS boring open world loot driven shooter with microtransactions built into its core progression, light RPG elements and crafting. They've looked at Destiny and want a piece of that pie, same as what EA did with Anthem. An on-going service game where thousands of players are buying microtransactions every week. That's what their main shareholders will be asking for and the top execs who make millions in bonuses alone every year will want that too. They don't play games, all they think about is the money they could potentially earn them and that means following the latest trends, developing games to manipulate you into spending more cash on them.
To think anything else would be insane.
343 aren't spending 5+ years developing a standalone story driven Halo game, that's not economical considering it may launch with a brand new console (no installed base). If it's cross gen then they can only realistically expect it to sell maybe around 5 million copies on the XB1 and that's simply not going to generate enough profit for a team of around 500 people working on the game for around 5 years.
GAAS is the only possible outcome I can see I'm afraid.

obidanshinobi1884d ago

Suppose there's the potential PC sales of Halo Infinite, though PC gamers have a lot more choice when it comes to quality first person shooters. And how well do Xbox games sell on the atrociously designed Windows Store? I believe Forza Horizon 4 had about 20% of its sales on PC, Gear 4 a bit lower, so we can expect Halo Infinite to sell around 2 million on PC and that's maybe being too generous, that's still not enough profit given the team size and development length for a standalone game.

traumadisaster1884d ago

What you describe is certainly the way the industry has become, and I hate it. However, it seems to me either Phil or one of his handlers follows gamer attitudes and has devoted the resources to understand the trends.

In addition, I also think MS is allowing some loss of money in order to do things right over the long haul, hoping to gain long term brand commitment over short term profits, ie. EA, etc.

As evidenced by adding niche features to x1x like A/V features that only cater to a few, pc play anywhere/cross platform mm games, even having the x1x for best multiplats that is a niche group, Gamepass which is a cheap proconsumer prob loss maker for them - but again niche, even original xbox/360 backcompat that only pull in a niche market, hell even finishing the mess of Crackdown and making it near enough to fun- just to avoid the pr mess of being another duke nukem/dakitania vaporware debacle all in the goal of long term branding enhancements.

They can afford to invest in the future and really have no other option to fight since they lost this gen and prob next.

UnholyLight1884d ago

Sorry I just can't see it, Halo just CANT go GaaS that would be a massive massive mistake. Also, they developed an all new engine for the next Halo and beyond...so the time went into that too. Do you know how long it takes to build an engine from the ground up!?

Donnie811884d ago

A new engine and more time in the oven will make infinite a genre defining experience

UnholyLight1884d ago

I agree, I still place faith in this team. People forget a lot of Bungie people went to 343i instead of staying with Bungie. These people care about the Halo franchise and understand it's importance. Every great franchise or be it ANY brand for that matter goes through a stage of downturn it's just the way things go...sometimes products fail or don't go over as expected. These are learning experiences used to redefine and rebuild a new, better experience.

I have faith that 343i along with the new ground up engine and the power of next gen will be able to deliver the kind of Halo experience none of us could have ever dreamed of. Only time will tell, but have faith people! Halo was the king, it's coming to reclaim the throne once again.

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Escape from Tarkov Unheard Edition Reneges on Promised Content Behind $250 Price Tag

The new Escape from Tarkov Unheard Edition has the community in an outrage after promising exclusive access to the new PvE mode for $250 USD.

Christopher10h ago

$250? Do they not know all the other games that already exist or will be made in the future that can do similar?

SimpleDad1h ago(Edited 1h ago)

This is for the hardcore people that have 2500 h in the game. They basically play that one game the whole year.
Oh and those same people are mad as hell at this... what a way to reward fans of your game and annihilate newcomers.

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv7213h ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle52m ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Cacabunga19m ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

purple1013h ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos2h ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

XBManiac1h ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad1h ago(Edited 1h ago)

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple1011h ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos52m ago(Edited 50m ago)

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

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Embracer CEO Lars Wingefors: "I deserve a lot of criticism."

Embracer CEO demonstrates a masterclass in mental gymnastics in latest interview.
"I'm sure I deserve a lot of criticism, but I don't think my team or companies deserve all the criticism. I could take a lot of that blame myself. But ultimately I need to believe in the mission," he said.

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on_line_forever21h ago

OK give us Kingdoms of Amalur 2 with AAA budget and we will accept your excuse

kaos8919h ago(Edited 19h ago)

The king of the studio asset flip scheme that failed.