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The Steady Decline of BioWare

A lot of obituaries are going to be penned for BioWare over the next days. Anthem's shaky release only adds to a narrative that's taken shape over the past decade: BioWare's best days are behind it.

Once regarded as one of the very best RPG studios in the business, BioWare's games have drawn more and more criticism over the years.

EA, being the easy target that it is, tends to catch most of the blame for BioWare's troubles. However that's only part of the story. The truth is that BioWare was already on its current path when EA entered the picture.

Fluttershy772258d ago (Edited 2258d ago )

From Baldur's Gate, to KOR and then Mass Effect 1/2 and Dragon Age I think in those games and can't help but smile...

and then ME3, Inquisition, SR gets cancelled, Andromeda and now this nightmare... And with each release you see a diminish in the quality... and now they announce the next Dragon Age will include "live game" (Idk WTF that means, but they compare it with mmos, with MTs and subscriptions model...) ... Something is rotten in the state of Denmark!

EA... they're sucking out the marrow out of Bioware's bones. So, no, they are not doing fine.

Imalwaysright2258d ago

Neverwinter Nights and Jade Empire are also masterpieces.

kevinsheeks2258d ago

This post is akin to that guy standing outside the burning building saying everything is just fine . . .Bioware is not doing just fine this needed to be a W and it clearly was not Bioware may be on the chopping block soon but it's not all their fault EA played a large part in tearing them down and forcing the games as a service stance ruining developers creativity.

JesusBuiltmyHotrod2258d ago

LOL....when people live on their own planet.

OctaneLord2258d ago (Edited 2258d ago )

Yeah. I really don't get all the hate for the game. I'm having fun with it. It's got some issues that they will need to patch but what game upon release doesn't these days.

The critics in the entertainment industry as a whole need to stop drinking the koolaid and actually form their own opinions for once.

Gaming4Life19812258d ago

Yea it's a fun game and bioware is just fine.

JesusBuiltmyHotrod2258d ago

you having fun is ok.....many people have fun with mediocre things , it's normal...does not change what the game is ultimately. One big disappointment.

AspiringProGenji2258d ago (Edited 2258d ago )

The critics have formed their own opinions and agreed this game is a disappointment. It has a lot of issues and bad design choices. Your deception of having fun with a game that already offers everything in the first two hours with its serviceable gameplay loop is blinding you from what this game is truly is. This is exactly what publishers want with these Game as service games. They don’t care about proper game deisgn but making you spend more. Hell They have already nerfed the loot system so you don’t get shit. So much fun...

Gaming4Life19812258d ago

I can care less about what the critics say, I played it and formed my own opinion. The loot system will be fixed I'm sure and this is not the first game that has a lot drop problem. I am not in anyway saying the game doesn't have its share of problems but it is fun and I am enjoying it.

I dont think proper game design has gone away at all but they should have pushed this game back a couple of months to add to it.

Shikoku2258d ago

Talk to me once those 3 strongholds get boring cause you have nothing else to do. Anthem is a shift this shift is seen in ever industry from producing quality finished products to just good enough you'll buy it and I dont want that for gaming a move away from finished polished industry defining examples is not good for the medium or the consumer base

Hungryalpaca2258d ago

It’s missing the entire LOOT part of looter shooter. It also has 0 variety.

You’re the people who need to stop drinking the koolaid. The game is more barebones than vanilla destiny. Yes. I’ve played it. 19 hours and I don’t plan on going back to get a “masterwork” gun that looks and behaves exactly the same as the first gun I picked up.

Gaming4Life19812258d ago

Well you got your fill so move on and you must have liked it to put in 19 hours.

Hydrazinezz2258d ago

Anthem is garbage. 4/10. Plebs will eat it up because it looks cool. Sad, the game has no content but will be “added later” give me a break. Worst loot shooter to date. Their were games made in 2 years that had more content and more story than that piece of shit that “supposedly” took 6 years to develop. If that took 6 years to make that monstrosity, they literally should just give up.

King_Noctis2258d ago

If people enjoy it then they can enjoy it. You should learn that people have different taste in everything in life, including gaming.

Casepb2258d ago

I get the hate, but I still enjoy it because I'm not a sheep like 90% of the people hating on the game because some YouTube loser told them to. Sure the game is a mess and is missing features and improvements even Destiny 2 had. If EA allows the game to live it will only get better. Who knows if we will ever see that day though.

AspiringProGenji2258d ago

We are not sheeps for avoiding games that lack content and dissappint. I would say the ones that still fall for the hype even with all the warnings signs are the sheep.

Listen to yourself... You are okay with games lacking content day 1 and be finished later. You are playing in these GaSS moron publishers

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TheEnigma3132258d ago

That's what they get for selling themselves to EA.

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Tross2258d ago

I still blame EA. BioWare was in a tough spot financially when EA bought them, but they have since experienced a decline in quality.

TheEnigma3132258d ago

EA doesn't have anything left besides Apex, FIFA, and Madden. They destroyed all they good developers.

Fist4achin2258d ago

The execs at EA suck. It feels like they are trying to make a stories game annually like their FIFA and Madden games and the creativity doesn't quite work like that. They are only interested in the money. I get they are a corporation and money matters, but eventually your customers will lose interest in the turds you're selling.

King_Noctis2258d ago (Edited 2258d ago )

Even Fifa is a cashgrab now with the UT mode. The incremental update for each new installment every years doesn’t help either.

Hardiman2258d ago

I get that it's the thing to hate on EA but sometimes it's not a fad, it's the truth. Their vision and what they want the same industry to become is enough to rally against them!

But this is about Bioware and there was a Bioware before EA and there is a Bioware after EA.

kevinsheeks2258d ago (Edited 2258d ago )

The second bioware was purchased and the founders left should have been a clear indication something was wrong, not soon after they lost some of their veteran writers . . . people don't leave a perfectly functional ship, they leave a sinking ship to get out before it eventually kills them all, in a perfect world EA would have purchased them sat down told them "you guys have been killing it here is a bigger budget just keep doing what you've been doing and we'll support you" instead EA took a good company imposed their views on them and shattered what before was manufacturing some of the best products, and the horrible part is every-time Bioware messes up even though I believe EA is the mastermind Bioware takes the blame and when EA closes them even though we know the fault is with EA as well they will say it was because Bioware themselves Didn't meet expectations . .I believe Bioware still has it in them to make a stellar product if EA just gets the F out the way.

EA refuses to let their developers live up to their glory days, I bet if EA let Bioware go right now their next product would be a hit.

I'm not saying developers shouldn't have oversight but you don't mess with your moneymakers . . .this would be like sony meddling with naughty dog while their developing games telling them how they should do it and what to implement . . .NOOO get back Naughty Dog knows what their doing you don't interfere with your Veteran Developers they've got this But EA doesn't get this . . they take developers meddle and break shyt and once the company has been torn down and the reputation is gone they come in and end the company as if they aren't the main reason for the companies downfall . .

Hardiman2258d ago

I've went back and forth on the Bioware situation and if they could deliver a game that would resonate like their games used to. You hit the nail on the head with the analogy of the sinking ship so I think this is a situation of "it is what it is!"

The Bioware that we have today delivers Andromeda and Anthem, the semantics don't seem to matter!

Shikoku2258d ago

Um no Bioware wont exist AFTER EA. Go back to E3 like 10yrs ago and see how many devs just dont exist anymore that were tied to EA. If Anthem fails to me expectations like Andromeda did expect the same thing to happen to Anthem the DLC plans cancelled and the thing to be put on ice just like Mass Effect.

Hardiman2258d ago

Yeah that's what we're saying, at least I am. What is so frustrating is EA as the capital to basically allow Bioware to do anything they've ever dreamed of. But with most of the key players gone from the old guard I'm not sure we would get a game thd caliber of Knights of the sold Republic, Jade Empire, Mass Effect or Dragon Age Origins.

The bitch of it is EA holds the Star Wars license and Bioware did Mass Effect and it doesn't take much imagination to see what could have been.

You can go back twenty years and see how many devs existed and the franchises they did but after EA the studios and IP's are gone! This is why so many refer to EA as a cancer!

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Former Santa Monica Studio Writer Shares Insight On The Game Industry: “It’s Not Great”

Former Santa Monica Studio writer Alanah Pearce has shared some insight on the game industry, and it's not great.

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Goodguy012d ago

AAA has gone downhill as they focus on huge profits. Indie and other smaller games however have been amazing not chasing trends and the next big thing.

Redemption-641d 7h ago

In all honesty, a significant majority of indies and smaller games fail. At best a you might hear about 10-20 indies that get attention or do well, but 100s more fail. AAA games can still be the bread and butter of the industry, but greedy executives would kill a good game if it doesn't make them a lot of money

Cacabunga19h ago

I don’t game much anymore as i used to. Last big game i played was Stellar Blade. Almost didn’t touch the console since.
I don’t have much backlog for the first time in a long time. Maybe others enjoy what’s coming, but I’m losing feeling a little

Ethereal1d 11h ago

Nail on the head. AAA has lost the magic and focused on profits and "player engagement". Gaming is an art form, and like always the CEO fat cats roll in to capitalize at the cost of innovation, passion, wild experimentation. We need a major realignment in the industry and it starts with gamers voting with their wallets.

Killer2020UK1d 8h ago (Edited 1d 8h ago )

I think that's already happening, we're seeing commercial successes in studios like Larion and whoever made Kingdom Come for example. Double Fine is another good example. Studios who are filled with and run by people who give a fuck that aren't hamstrung by money men. That's the answer and consumers are favouring it more than the soulless AAAs that have been put out. I don't doubt there is talent at Ubisoft for example but when they're told exactly what the end product needs to be by people who don't know what consumers actually want, it's always going to result in the same rehashed but slightly shinier slop.

Ethereal1d 8h ago

Exactly. I do believe we are starting to see a shift in consumer habits. The market is saturated with GaaS and battlepasses, seasons, etc. We can't all play the same four games until the end of time. Fatigue is setting in and the industry needs to get back to making new experiences rather than chasing the latest "money maker".

Killer2020UK1d 7h ago

I was wondering whether this is perception or actually happening but it feels to me, as a semi old gamer, there is more choice than ever and as such people are now much choosier about how they spend their time and money gaming. Certainly noticing this when it comes to GaaS as you mentioned, the question always has to be why would I play this instead of what I'm already playing. Anthem is going to have a real hard time prying away people, especially with a premium price tag that screams money men as a decision.

Palitera1d 2h ago (Edited 1d 2h ago )

Nah. Devs need to pay the bills. Uninspired games fail, but artsy games usually fail even harder.

PapaBop16h ago

Gamers are voting with their wallets, Kingdom Come Deliverance, Expedition 33, games made by passionate developers who are not being controlled by money men are seeing their work get universal praise and selling extremely well. Meanwhile Outlaws and Veilguard are underperforming. I wonder how many people Ubi and EA had working on those games, in comparison Sandbox have just a core development team of 30 and managed to put something out EA and Ubi can only dream of.

The underlying problem though lays with how EA and Ubi execs react to these sort of things. Seems like they'd rather just lay off good developers and focus their efforts on their cash cows as opposed to change their development philosophies.

anast1d 10h ago

She didn't even call out Stanfield's PNG file planets when she flew through one. She just 'yelled' something stupid like 'flat earth'. She wasn't even taken aback in the slightest. I am not sure she isn't a part of the problem.

Aloymetal1d 9h ago

She's always been a narcissist bimbo, I'm even more surprised she's not in only fans yet.

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anast1d 7h ago

@Aloy ha!

@Lanx I'm sure you see where you are not making any sense.

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SimpleDad23h ago

You know what...?... for once I totally agree with you. Gaming bimbo true.

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Cellblock111d 10h ago

"Former", wow she didn't last at SM Studios very long at all.

isarai1d 10h ago

4yrs is pretty good not sure what ur talking about

Cellblock111d 7h ago

I wasn't sure of the actual number of years just seemed like it wasn't that long ago when I heard that she got a job as a writer there, guess time flies. 4 years being "pretty good" or not is subjective depending on ones perspective. The question might be, was four years long enough to make a discernible writing contribution to a video game based on how long development cycles are these days?

gleepot13h ago

Maybe for some industries. In gaming that's barely enough time to ship a single game.

QuantumMechanic1d 9h ago

She left SMS because she needed to go back to Australia to support a parent with cancer.

Chard19h ago

Chuds hate her because she doesn't do the anti-woke brainrot thing

SpacedDuck1d 8h ago

She doesn't last anywhere long.

Petebloodyonion1d 3h ago

She quit SM studio to focus on her own stuff, There was a video where she explained all of it.

SpacedDuck1d ago

Okay, explain like the other 50 jobs she's had and hasn't held......

I think she likes to bend the truth a ton on how involved she is and when her lies catch up with her she moves on to start a new batch.

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Rainbowcookie1d 10h ago

Greed , lack of innovation and agendas

Why do we rave about a good indie game but we avoid a AAA game.

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"Seeing Nintendo do this is a little disheartening" - Switch 2 & the state of game preservation

The worry is that at some point down the line, Nintendo's Switch 2 eShop will close – just as the Wii U and 3DS eShops did – and these Game-Key Cards will be dependent on Nintendo's servers supporting downloads of existing titles long into the future.

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Neonridr2d ago

"Seeing Nintendo do this is a little disheartening".

Let's ignore the fact that this is 3rd party devs who are opting to do this to save on manufacturing costs. Is Nintendo supposed to just tell them No?

hombreacabado1d 11h ago

nintendo will also publish games that are on key cards. nintendo should tell them no because what is the point of purchasing a physical game and having it be a digital download. that entire debacle should be outlawed and banned.

rob-GP17h ago

"Nintendo should tell them no..." - who do you think came up with the Key Card concept and decided to only release these tiny carts and much more expensive 64GB carts?

ZycoFox1d 13h ago

The key cards are kinda garbage. The only plus is that you can resell them.

I think anyone buying a Switch 2 should only buy the full game cards and ignore the key cards. If you have a PC or PS5/Xbox you'd probably buy the third party titles for one of those anyway since they will look and run better, except for the ones lighter on the hardware of course.

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Baldur’s Gate 3 dev Larian Studios is working on “two games”, “can craft multiple RPGs side-by-side”

Baldur's Gate 3 developer Larian Studios is officially working on two games at the same time to become a more efficient company.

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